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This has got to just be a group trying to take down racists from the inside right? I mean are you really going to call anything multi-cultural insulting, associate yourself with the Tea Party and NOT expect to be laughed off of the planet?

But don't you understand?! He has more melanin in his skin! The whole point of being Norse is that you are as pasty white as the driven snow! IT'S THE DESTRUCTION OF MY RACE'S CULTURE! IT'S THE DOWNFALL OF ALL WE HOLD DEAR...

...pffffffffHAHAHAHAHAHA
guh...HAHAHAHAHAHA...waitaminutewaitaminute....
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...
oh my god...wow...good times...

I almost got through that. Wow.

No, but seriously who would've thought Christians would be fighting for aesthetic accuracy in the representation of a pagan religion? These are the same people who believe that Harry Potter is a homosexual allegory (Diagon Alley = Diagonally = Not Straight). Someone needs to send out a memo over there, seriously.

Remember the rumor that they wanted Will Smith as Captain America? Imagine what the fallout would have been from that casting...

oh god. will smith as cap just made me go all blurry-eyed. was that a mini-stroke?

srsly

It's a bit false to label these guys a "fundamentalist group." It's pretty clear from their website that they are just garden-variety racists. "White supremacist group" would be appropriate.

Can hateful assholes like the CCC please stop associating themselves with Christianity? Kthanx.

Also, they're just all hot and bothered because one look from Idris Elba makes them feel tingly in the pantal region.

just don't tell them Jesus was a jewish arab

I know I'm raising the argument way past any level that a racist idiot could handle, but has it ever occurred to anyone that deities per se could look any way they wanted? The Scandinavians only believed their deities were white and blue-eyed because they created them in their own image. But if they were really deities, then they weren't human Norsemen and could be as Black as they felt like being. Suppose Thor was flying his winged chariot over Ethiopia one day and thought to himself "self, those guys look like kick-ass warriors and boy can they run a marathon in under two hours, I think I'll look like them for a century or so." So he waves his magic Thor stick and tada, he's Black. And may I add that if he looked like Idris Elba, then I assume all the female deities from the neighboring mythologies would be lining up to have little Godlings with him.

Elba has been ruined for me. He will always be Stringer Bell playing another role. So we've got String playing Heimdall. Who should play Loki? Prop Joe? Is Odin the Greek or is he played by Burrell or Rawls or Carcetti?

Goddammit I fucking hate stupid people who give conservatism a bad name. I wonder if the liberals hate the Westboro Baptist people for the same reason (yeah, the God Hates Fags people are big Dems, in case you didn't know).

BTW, Elba's fucking awesome. I ain't gay or nothin' (not that there's anything wrong with that), but I got a bit of a man-crush on Stringer Bell.

If we're going to bait these people, we can do better. How about we engineer a re-release of Peter Brook's adaptation of The Mahabharata? A trans-racial cast in a Englishman's stage play of a (The) Hindu epic, based on a French adaptation of an English translation (William Buck - great read.) Then, they took it on the road on a world tour.

Heads would explode and we could go back to ignoring The People's Revolutionary Council for Making Their Broken Little Selves Important Through Put-On Rage for a while.

I'm amused that the casting of an Asian as Hogun the Brave went without comment. Volstagg is positively svelte when compared to the comic book. But, 'wunna them there Coloreds as Heimdall?' Whut in tarnation?

The comic was created by a Jewish man. The current editor-in-chief of Marvel is Cuban. You're not gonna win this one, boys.

Quesada isn't white?

[burns comic collection in a pyre]

They do know that Thor isn't real, right? That the Norse mythology is... mythology? And that, even that aside, this is based on a fucking comic book about SUPERHEROES? Are they OK with magical suits of armor and hammers that make you fly and...

Holy balls, these people are severely fucking defective.

They must have been pissed at the Sam Jackon as Nick Fury thing.

Okay, screw the racial purity arguments and this stoopid CCC asshat committee. For me the problem is just the senseless compulsion toward political correctness. Whatever, it's just a comic book movie, but why stop with an African American (African-Norweigan?) character? If it really is all the same to you folks, let's see all the Jewish, Japanese and Mexican Norse gods! Get me John Tuturro! It is useful for artistic purposes to have ANY Scandinavians in the cast, or is it racist to ask?

I disagree Marc. I don't think the casting of Elba has anything to do with political correctness. Thor is a powerful giant of a deity who dwarfs the lesser Norse deities in terms of stature and badassedness. Couldn't Elba just have been cast because he embodies all that?

To expound on TK's point, not only are they mythological and based on a comic, but Jack Kirby completely did his own thing with them. In fact, in the comics, they're sufficiently advanced aliens, not gods. That's just how "we" interpreted them. So, this supposed affront to whites and whiteness is thrice removed: Elba's Heimdall is an adaptation of a comic book character that was adapted from an ancient mythology that was created because nobody knew a gods damned thing back then.

I wonder if anyone has told them about Hogun the Grim?

And I really wish Donald Glover was Spider-Man now. It's about who's right for the part, mofos, not about their skin color.

Could be, Paddy, and if so I'm good with that. Without seeing the flick yet, it just has the same vibe as cramming Morgan Freeman into the Robin Hood legend as the convenient "wayward Moor." I love me some Morgan Freeman, but he was selected because of his skin color and not because the Robin legend needy a buddy and he was the best logical choice. Whether the same is true for Elba, I guess I don't know yet, but I have my suspicions.

You'll never see a white guy as Blade or Black Panther. Just sayin'...

Idris can do whatever the eff he wants to as long as he's wearing those pinstriped slacks.

The fact that their mythological deity was reimagined as a comic book hero in the first place should be more offensive, I would have thought.

I think I missed something... which is completely possible and I would just like it clarified...

When did Marvel "visciously attack the Tea-Party Movement?"

I'm pretty okay with that, I just need the clarification. Supposedly this was the first swipe, then came the darker deity diatribe.
Oh well, they should realize that they are combining two different kinds of nuts here and that usually has explosive results

I recently saw a rerun of "3rd Rock From the Sun" and Dick was very interested in black culture. He was upset that his black students would not include him in their clubs and was wondering if there was a white club he could join. He of course took the whole family of aliens to KKK rally and wondered why they wanted to burn all those lower case t'. They did not want to be part of any club that had an issue with the lower case t, oh and didn't like Barry White. That is the only time I found white power funny. The rest of the time? It is quite scary. I know the white man is freaking out because more minority babies were born this year. But, who could be mad at Idris?

This Heimdall, if they stick with Kirby, is neither Norse nor a god, and all that matters to his character is that he's radass. Hence, Idris Elba.

And that's the real point. I'll admit, when I first heard he'd been cast I thought it was a case of political correctness gone mad. (And I'm still absolutely convinced it's about political correctness.) But I realized it doesn't matter why they went with Elba, because there's no real reason not to. The Asgardians, in the Marvel universe, are basically an alien race who just happens to have come to be worshiped by the Norse. There's no reason they couldn't be black or white or whatever the hell they want.

Only in America...

Nice job, Fredo.

I was kind of hoping they'd keep it rooted in Norse mythology, 'cause Vikings are badass, much like pirates or ninjas. I can't argue with putting Stringer in anything, but I just wish they all had crazier hair. Like a lot of it, with braids and dreadlocks and that goes for the beards too.

The current Marvel continuity has Loki being a woman. It kind of fits.

Being of (somewhat diluted) Viking heritage myself and being a fan or Norse Mythology all I can say is...

Fuck off, CCC.

A) It's based on a comic book, that is based on the mythology. Are you guys up in arms that the Stargate TV show made the "Asgard" a bunch of grey-type aliens?

B) He's playing one of the gods. A being of mythical origins, not a man of Nordic heritage. He could have purple skin and green hair and it wouldn't be entirely implausible. This isn't your great-great-grandfather being played by a black dude, it's one of the gods of your great-great-granfather. And "pops" wouldn't even remark on the subtle difference in cast between a deity of color and the Fomors if they were fighting on a mountain top, seven days to Ragnarok.

And finally, C) It's based on a comic book! I mean, come on! Seriously!

Has anyone seen the photos of this CCC leadership? Hint--bet their family trees have significantly less branches than most people's.

Posted by: True_Blue at December 17, 2010 4:15 PM

You're not kidding. Check it out:
http://cofcc.org/introduction/statement-of-principles/

Check the picture at the bottom of the page. Yahoo!!

I don't want to say these CCC idiots are a little, um, backward, but here's one of their principles:
"We believe in the strongest possible defense for the United States. We oppose the presence of homosexuals and women in the military services and especially of women in combat roles."

Why am I hearing Dueling Banjos right now?

Hmmm. After skimming their "Statement of Principles", I see that #2 says:

"We believe the United States is a European country..."

Uh, OK. (Yeah, yeah, I know it's all about being white, it's just a weird choice of words.) Especially since the Europeans are SOCIALISTS, dontcha know.

@bluejayone: Because idiocy always needs to be quashed, no matter how big or small. That's what the internet is for!

"Look at your god, now back to me..."

I know it isn't the same guy, but please. Something tells me no deity would mind looking like this fine dude.

“It seems that Marvel Studios believes that white people should have nothing that is unique to themselves."

Sunscreen.

Tell 'em it's based on Warren Ellis' version. They can't possibly have a problem with an alien, right?

…oh, I see.