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Fox and The CW’s New Fall Schedule

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May 17, 2007

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OK, we’ll get to the CW and “Veronica” in a minute, but let’s look at Fox first. Not much in the way of surprise here — every show that’s out was expected to be out (“The Winner,” “Drive,” “Standoff,” “Happy Hours,” etc.). And all the shows expected back are back. In fact, for me, the only surprise is that “‘Til Death” got renewed. But whatever.

As for the new stuff, Fox has quite a few. There are two new dramas and two new comedies slated as mid-season replacements, so let’s cover those first and then we’ll jump into the new schedule. And then we’ll deal with the CW.

“The Sarah Connor Chronicles” is probably the most talked about of Fox’s pilots. Set between the time period of Terminator 2 (i.e., the good Terminator sequel) and Terminator 3 (i.e., the fucking awful Terminator sequel), the title pretty much tells you what you need to know — it’ll follow the adventures of Sarah Connor (played by Lena Headey, who you might remember as the Queen during the boring non-fight scenes in 300) and her son/savior-of-the-future, John Connor (played by Thomas Dekker, who was Claire’s friend Zach on “Heroes”). No idea what the show will actually be about, though I guess it’ll focus on her trying to protect her son and get ready for the impending human/robot showdown. And Fox’s other mid-season drama is “Canterbury’s Law” which is, you guessed it, a goddamned lawyer show. Sure, it’s being exec produced by Denis Leary. And sure, it stars Julianna Margulies. But Margulies plays, and I quote: “a rebellious female defense attorney who’s willing to bend the law in order to protect the wrongfully accused.” I can’t even begin to count the ways I’m uninterested in this show.

On the comedy side, one of the network’s mid-season replacements is “The Return of Jezebel James” (although this is still a working title at this point). It stars Parker Posey and Lauren Ambrose, and comes from “Gilmore Girls” creator Amy Sherman-Palladino, which is a nice starting list of names. The show is about a writer of kiddie books who has recently become single and winds up having her younger estranged sister carry a baby for her. Well suddenly I find myself not caring anymore. But I’ll probably tune in for an initial look-see because of Posey and Ambrose. But I’m even less interested in Fox’s other mid-season comedy, “The Rules for Starting Over.” Fox’s press release simply says that the show stars “Craig Bierko and Rashida Jones in the Farrely Brothers’ comedic take on a group of 30-somethings trying to find true love the second time around.” If I tune in, it will only be because Rashida Jones is funny and hot (and with this pickup, one can assume that Karen will be out of “The Office” by early next season, if not sooner).

Oh, and “24” isn’t on the schedule because, as has become the show’s routine now, it won’t premiere until January. And by the way, the show’s showrunner and exec producer has said that next season will allegedly be quite different: “We’re recreating the series” (and most folks assume that this is also a tacit confirmation of the rumors that next season will be located someplace other than in Los Angeles). But I’m not holding my breath after the terrible current season.

MONDAYS:

8 p.m.: “Prison Break.” No surprise that this is back in its old timeslot. And as long as the show keeps by boy William Fichtner on, I’ll keep watching. As I’ve said before, it’s stupid and mindless entertainment, but it’s a well done stupid and mindless.
9 p.m.: “K-Ville.” This is a drama about cops in post-Katrina New Orleans, starring Anthony Anderson and Cole Hauser. Another cop show. But this will be important, because of the post-Katrina setting. I hate it already.

TUESDAYS:

8 p.m.: “NEW AMSTERDAM.” This show comes to us from Lasse Hallstrom (director of What’s Eating Gilbert Grape and The Cider House Rules, among other things). The Fox press release describes it as being about “a New York City homicide detective unlike any other.” Unlike any other! Now I don’t know why Fox chose to describe it this way, because the actual premise — a cop who is hundreds of years old and tired of living — sounds much more interesting (to me at least) than “unlike any other.” I’m a sci-fi geek, so I’ll surely try this one out.
9 p.m.: “House.” I still don’t watch this show, despite suspecting that I’d probably like it well enough (if for no other reason than I have loved Hugh Lurie ever since I discovered him in “Blackadder”). But I know plenty of people who watch and enjoy this show, so to you — your crusty, hobbly doctor is back.

WEDNESDAYS:

8 p.m.: “BACK TO YOU.” This was the first pilot to get an official pickup earlier in the year, which comes as no surprise — it’s a comedy from producers Steven Levitan (“Larry Sanders,” “Fraiser,” and “Just Shoot Me!”) and Christopher Lloyd (“Wings” and “Frasier”), and stars Kelsey Grammer, Patricia Heaton and Frank Willard. They play news anchors in a local news station, and comedy surely ensues. This will either be a kinda smart and funny comedy, or an obnoxiously-obvious pile of drivel. I’m going 60/40 in favor of “smart and funny,” but the betting window is closed because I’m not feeling that comfortable with the odds.
8:30 p.m.: “‘Til Death.” I’m actually quite surprised that this show didn’t suffer the fate implied by its name, but I guess Fox has to put something on the air, so it can’t kill all of its crappy shows.
9 p.m.: “Bones.” I watched most of the first season, and enjoyed this well enough, but found myself eventually becoming uninterested. Depending how things shake out next fall, maybe I’ll give it another try.

THURSDAYS:

8 p.m.: “Are You Smarter Than a 5th Grader?” Indeed I am, which is why I shall continue to ignore Mr. Foxworthy, thank you very much.
9 p.m.: “KITCHEN NIGHTMARES.” A new show featuring chef Gordon Ramsay, from “Hell’s Kitchen.” This isn’t a competition reality show, though; instead, Ramsay will try to fix failing restaurants in a week or less. Because I’m a foodie, I’ll probably check this out.

FRIDAYS:

8 p.m.: “SEARCH FOR THE NEXT GREAT AMERICAN BAND” (this is a working title). This is basically “American Idol” for bands. Kill me.
9 p.m.: “NASHVILLE” (this is also a working title). And this is about young musicians in — shockingly — Nashville. Seriously, kill me now.

SATURDAYS:

8 p.m.: “Cops.” I guess some things never die.
8:30 p.m.:“Cops.” I still say the best thing to ever come out of this show was the years-old-now video “Troopers,” a mock “Cops” show featuring Star Wars Stormtroopers. Very funny clip.
9 p.m.: “America’s Most Wanted.” John Walsh keeps up the good fight.
11 p.m.: “MadTV.” Can you believe this fall will be (I think) the thirteenth season? This shocks me both in realizing that it was that long ago when this show started, and that it’s managed to stay on so long long despite being patently unfunny.
12 a.m.: “Talk Show with Spike Feresten.” I don’t know anything about this show, but I gather it was on last year to and had some fans, so I guess its pickup is good news for those cats.

SUNDAYS:

7 p.m.: “The O.T.” That would be football post-game stuff.
8 p.m.: “The Simpsons.” Of course.
8:30 p.m.: “King of the Hill.” I rarely watch this show, but whenever I do, I always wind up asking myself why I don’t watch it more. Really a good show that’s under-appreciated.
9 p.m.: “Family Guy.” Meanwhile, this is a really bad show that’s over-appreciated. I loved the pre-cancellation run (I own all the DVDs), but its reincarnation has not been good. Seth McFarlane has blown his wad, I suspect…
9:30 p.m.: “American Dad.” …yup, he’s blown it right into my eye.

…OK, big breath.

In … hold … hold … hold …

… and out.

Yes, the CW has officially cancelled “Veronica Mars.” I know some folks are saying there’s still a slim chance, since the network officially has (by contract) until June 15 to pick up the show. But our own Dan Carlson provided a pretty solid metaphor earlier (apologies for publishing this without your consent, Danny boy, but I didn’t think you’d object):

It’s hard for me to accept it, you know? I keep thinking, “Okay, the CW can contractually wait till June 15, at least according to what I’ve read, so maybe it’ll come back midseason. Right? Right?” But no; the stripper doesn’t love you, she’s doing it for money. In other words, don’t believe the fantasy. But man. Just … man. This totally sucks. It actually physically hurts a little.

That’s correct — the stripper is just doing it for money. And the stripper, here, would be the CW’s network president, Dawn Ostroff. At today’s press conference, she is reported as flat-out stating: ” ‘Veronica Mars’ is not coming back.” And when asked about the chances of the FBI reboot version being used as a mid-season replacement, her reported response was that “it’s not going to happen.” So I’m not sure why some are continuing to insist that there’s hope, aside from willful blindness (and I just read somewhere that Rob Thomas has said that the writers are already taking other jobs). For me, I’m glad that they didn’t keep the game going for another month. For better or for worse the band-aid has been pulled off.

Now there’s a lot that could be said here. I could rail against the network for this bone-headed decision. I could rail against “you” for choosing to give serious ratings to that Pussycat Dolls shit while continuing to ignore my beloved “Veronica.” I could piss and moan and jump into the freshly-dug grave screaming “no, no, not my Veronica!” … But none of it would matter.

“Veronica Mars” is dead and gone.

Long live “Veronica Mars”

(And she’ll be getting a proper obituary here at Pajiba, probably next week, though I’m actually going to let someone else step in for that.)

The other shame here is that I’m actually mildly intrigued by a couple of the CW’s new shows, including the one slated to take “Veronica’s” place. So I’m trying not to let my anger and disappointment at the cancellation cloud my view of things here. I’ve still got a job to do, after all. And with that being said, let’s take a look at the CW’s new fall schedule (and while “One Tree Hill” and (Mother God Damn Fucking) “Pussycat Dolls” aren’t on the schedule, they’re both slated for mid-season returns — although “One Tree Hill” is getting a reboot, with the show jumping four years into the future, post-college).

MONDAYS:

8 p.m.: “Everybody Hates Chris.” Sometime last season, I fell off the boat of being a regular viewer of this show, but I still try to catch it now and again, as it’s quite funny. And for those of you complaining about the lack of good minority-cast shows, here’s a prime example of how such a thing can be done (see, unlike “George Lopez,” this show is actually, you know, funny).
8:30 p.m.: “ALIENS IN AMERICA.” This new comedy is about a Muslim exchange student who comes to live with a family in a little Wisconsin town. So along with the “comedy,” there will be, and I quote, “issues of diversity, tolerance and coming of age in America.” Awesome.
9 p.m.: “Girlfriends.” I honestly don’t know a single thing about this show. Not a one.
9:30 p.m.: “The Game.” (See my comment re: “Girlfriends”).

TUESDAYS:

8 p.m.: “Beauty and the Geek.” I don’t quite know what it is about this show, but I’m still enjoying it.
9 p.m.: “REAPER.” Dancing on the grave of “Veronica” comes this dramedy about a dude who finds out, when he turns 21, that his parents sold his soul to the devil before he was born, and he now has to be a bounty hunter for the devil, hunting down runaway souls. It’s an interesting enough idea, and could be decent. The pilot was directed by Kevin Smith (the first time he’s ever directed something he didn’t write, an experience he didn’t love, as detailed in one of his podcasts). That’s a bizarre choice though, as his strength is in writing, and not so much in the directing. In any event, if I can get over the disappointment of “Veronica’s” cancellation, and if I can live with the dirty feelings of betrayal, I just may check this one out.

WEDNESDAYS:

8 p.m.: “America’s Next Top Model.” Ain’t never watched before, won’t ever watch it hence. But I know it has its fans, so I’m sure they’ll be back.
9 p.m.: “GOSSIP GIRL.” From Josh Schwartz (who brought us “The O.C.,” of course), this is based on some best-selling teen books and is about a bunch of NYC teens. They’re all big fans of the Gossip Girl blog, which is where they learn much of the important things going on in their lives — but, of course, nobody knows who the mysterious and anonymous blogger actually is. The show will surely be full of all the teen angst we’re used to in these types of teen drama shows, and if Schwartz can work some of his season-one “O.C.” magic on this show, it could be a little bit of a sleeper hit (as much of a “hit” as the CW will ever have outside of “ANTM,” anyway). Oh, and the pilot was directed by a dude who has previously directed both “Veronica Mars” (…sigh) and “Friday Night Lights,” so that has some potential, too. (And while there were rumors floating around earlier this week that Kristen Bell was actually going to be doing voice-over narration for the show, the CW press release doesn’t make any mention of this, nor is there any follow-up news on this.)

THURSDAYS:

8 p.m.: “Smallville.” Although I’ve heard this show is starting to show its age, it’s really the only flagship non-“ANTM” series the network has, so I expect they’ll hang on to it for as long as they possibly can.
9 p.m.: “Supernatural.” Uhm … I got nothing.

FRIDAYS:

8 p.m.: “Friday Night Smackdown!” Oh yeah!

SATURDAYS:

Literally nothing to see here — move along.

SUNDAYS:

7 p.m.: “CW NOW.” This is a newsmagazine-type show, being produced by some of the folks responsible for “Extra.” It’s going to utilize “eye-catching graphics and visuals in a fast-paced mix of celebrity gossip and current fashion and lifestyle trends.” So it’ll be aces-up, top notch.
7:30 p.m.: “ONLINE NATION.” And this is some sort of show focusing on viral videos (i.e., low production costs because they can just steal clips from YouTube and College Humor). Blockbuster hour of programming here, CW.
8 p.m.: “LIFE IS WILD.” This is based on a British show (“Wild at Heart”), and it’s about a “dysfunctional blended family from New York who moves to a rural South African town and finds they must rely on each other more than they ever did back home.” I’m totally going to skip out on watching football to watch this. Absolutely. You betcha.
9 p.m.: A rerun of “America’s Next Top Model.” OK, now this pisses me off a little! The CW has an open block of time, and it’s a block of time that “Veronica” could maybe do decent in, as the only competition is really “Desperate Housewives” (while there’s probably some intersection with football fans, such as myself, it’s probably not a big crossover). Sure, it’s way cheaper to just rerun a show, rather than air something that costs additional money to film, but they couldn’t reach some sort of arrangement that made sense financially? And then maybe, you know, the network could’ve tried giving the show some real promotion, and just give a look-see to what happens? Bah.


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Seth “the Orangutan” Freilich is Pajiba’s television columnist. He will probably get some dust in his eyes next Tuesday, around 9:55 p.m., when he watches his last glimpse of lovely little Veronica.


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Comments

And the networks keep wondering why they are losing share to other media like the internet and my ass.

Posted by: JP at May 17, 2007 5:45 PM

Sarah Connor Chronicles: "the story of a young single mother coming to terms with impending robot attacks." Set against the background of the Monica Lewinsky scandal.

Sounds like Lifetime Movies production.

On to that Parker Posey thing, love the Parker but hate the Ambrose, don't like how she plays the smart-ass angst ridden hipster types. She reeeeeally gets under my skin. PASS

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at May 17, 2007 5:56 PM

The CW is dead to me. I won't watch anything it puts out since it cancelled VM. That was the most idiotic, heartbreaking cancellation of a show since Freaks and Geeks. I learned a lesson after F & G was cancelled to never let myself love a show again. I fell hard for VM however, against my better judgement, and I should have seen this coming. Silly me for actually thinking a network would hang on to this gem of a show.

Posted by: nicole at May 17, 2007 6:07 PM

i'm sad--seriously--i'm not surprised, but i am sad. and a little mad. it gives me yet another reason to HATE the pussycat dolls. i don't care what anyone says, they killed veronica.

Posted by: pq at May 17, 2007 6:08 PM

Knew the VM cancellation was coming, but it doesn't make it hurt any less.

Rest in peace, Veronica Mars. We'll miss you.

Posted by: Czar at May 17, 2007 6:09 PM

I hope Fox does "Kitchen Nightmares" justice, the BBC show was outstanding.

And I'm guessing that "Aliens in America" was based on that Canadian program with the same idea that got a ton of international press simply by being a sitcom about Muslims. The CW is likely attempting to desperately grasp at ideas to draw any attention at all. Unfortunately they'll likely mangle the whole thing giving the "terrorists" another reason to hate us.

Posted by: Bill at May 17, 2007 6:10 PM

That's correct - the stripper is just doing it for money. And the stripper, here, would be the CW's network president, Dawn Ostroff.

HA! That was probably the only laugh I'll ever have about VM getting the boot, while the f'ing Pussycat Dolls get another chance. Like you, though, I'm actually glad they just pulled the plug and got it over with. Long live Veronica!

I'm actually kind of intrigued with the "Gossip Girl" idea if Josh Schwartz is at the helm, though I can't help but hoping it sucks, just out of spite.

Posted by: bonnie at May 17, 2007 6:10 PM

*hope* (facepalm). Dammit. I'm a little overwhelmed at the moment.

Posted by: bonnie at May 17, 2007 6:12 PM

I'm so glad they gave OTH another chance, you know? I mean, even if they had to move it 4 years into the future, it's so great that they stuck behind their most critically acclaimed show and kept it going -- especially when its audience is, after all these years, still small enough to be deemed a "cult." It really shows the kind of respect for quality TV that I wish more networks would...wait a minute, did you say "One Tree Hill"? I thought you said "Veronica Mars." Silly me, of course they canceled her. But kept the OTH'ers, huh? Well, f**k the world, I'm going to start drinking.

Posted by: Jessica at May 17, 2007 6:15 PM

Just so you know, both 'Girlfriends' and 'The Game' are minority-focused comedies. Too bad they are closer to the "George Lopez" end than to the "Everybody Hates Chris" end. Another hour that could have been better served by our beloved.

Posted by: Vermillion at May 17, 2007 6:16 PM

As Vinnie Van Lowe once sang out his office window, "Veronica Maaaaars, I'm watchin' you..." until the end of time, no matter how many times I have to replace my dvds.

Posted by: ewg at May 17, 2007 6:30 PM

why does it seem that everytime I turn around, Dawn Ostroff is standing there with my ripped out heart in the palm of her hand? First my beloved Everwood, now this. At least this time she's not yanking me around with the hopes that yes, it just may be renewed, only to bring 7th Heaven back for the second time after it's supposedly ended. Cause that would just have been a swift kick to the proverbial balls on top of everything.

Posted by: McGeek at May 17, 2007 6:40 PM

My roommate and I have a drinking game for the original 'Kitchen Nightmares'. Drink whenever Ramsay says "fuck".

.. it's best to have plenty to drink.

Posted by: Mara at May 17, 2007 6:50 PM

Word, McGeek. Word. That whole 7th Heaven / Everwood debacle was painful.

Oh, Veronica, I'll miss you! All I can hope is that the brilliant cast continues to get work, and that someday, just maybe, I'll be able to see my beloved Daran Norris (Cliff) again.

Although, with the way the show was going this season, maybe it's better that it got cancelled now before the quality started dropping even more and it became a shadow of its former fabulous self. That's how I always consoled myself about Everwood, anyway: "Well, at least it didn't get the chance to start sucking."

At least According to Jim is off the air now as well, so there is some justice in the world. Wow length.

Posted by: Mimi at May 17, 2007 7:06 PM

Finally! Some King of the Hill recognition. I love that show!

Posted by: amber at May 17, 2007 7:14 PM

I gave up on network TV years ago, not because I'm snobby - I'm actually pretty easy to please when it comes to the boob tube, but because *every* show I've gotten hooked on has been cancelled before its time.

That being said, the New Amsterdam one looks like int has the potential to be really cool, and while I'd love to watch it, I'm terrified it'll go down within a month of my first viewing.

Posted by: pinkcheese at May 17, 2007 7:18 PM

I just said this to a friend, and it's trying too hard to be clever, but it's true: after the first season, I enjoyed watching to see if VM would be cancelled a lot more than I enjoyed watching the show.

I was loyal to the first season, but since then I barely kept up. I'll miss it, but I'm as much guilty of abandoning it as most. Sorry.

Posted by: Erik at May 17, 2007 7:19 PM

One of the worst things about Veronica Mars getting canceled is that the season finale, since it was filmed before the cancellation, will probably leave a bunch of stuff unanswered and maybe even bring up new questions and stories that won't ever get a chance to go any further. Fuck I hate TV sometimes!

Posted by: Scott at May 17, 2007 7:21 PM

A couple notes on the comedies...

-Til Death: Horrible.

-Girfriends: This has occasionally been a guilty pleasure of mine. It's harmless good comedy, but the main reason for watching is Golden Brooks.

-MadTV: This has actually been funnier than SNL the past 3 years or so. Not hard to do lately, although SNL has had a run of good shows the last couple months. Bobby Lee is hilarious.

-Talkshow w/ Spike Feresten: Spike was a writer on Seinfeld, so you know he's capable of quality funny. There's no monologue, and by DVRing it, it's a good 15 minutes of fun to have waking up on a Sunday morning.

Posted by: Riles at May 17, 2007 7:22 PM

sniff....Pours a 40 for Veronica

8 p.m.: "Beauty and the Geek." I don't quite know what it is about this show, but I'm still enjoying it.

Ditto. I'll turn this on every once in a while and just sit and stare - completey shutting down all thought. Once spent around 6 hours on a Sunday afternoon watching a marathon on MTV (and I watch no other reality type show)

Posted by: Brian at May 17, 2007 7:27 PM

Oh, and nice way to disguise your McFarlane bashing with the classic "I own all the dvds" The way I see it, both Family Guy and American Dad are what the Simpsoms and Futurama were LONG ago.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at May 17, 2007 7:28 PM

You know, you probably just gave away the season finale of The Office tonight. I'll still give you sympathy for VM though.

Posted by: katy at May 17, 2007 7:29 PM

Yay Bones! LOVE Bones. It's become my new favorite show on TV filling my "Alias void."

Posted by: twilly at May 17, 2007 7:34 PM

Just wanted to thank VM for the last three years!

I can't really blame the CW for blaming a show with ratings that bad...

So I'll blame the dumb American public for watching Pussycat Dolls instead. Welcome to Idiocracy.

Posted by: Jeff at May 17, 2007 7:47 PM

My boyfriend and I broke up, and I lose Veronica Mars on the same day. Goddamnit, why is my 21st birthday in 3 months and 10 days! I need to be drinking NOW!

This and Battlestar Galactica are convincing me more and more that all of my television viewing should be done via Netflix DVDs.

Posted by: Genny at May 17, 2007 8:15 PM

I am going to miss the hell out of Veronica Mars.

Supernatural is a great show, if you can deal with the occasional anvil moment and the sometimes ridiculousness of the monster of the week plot. What it really has going for it is great chemistry between the two leads and one of the most interesting brother relationships on television. In that killer time slot, though, it will never get much more than 3 million viewers a week, which is a shame.

Posted by: Carrie at May 17, 2007 8:23 PM

Veronica Mars is over? Gah, I feel like crying. I haven't been enjoying the 3rd season as much as the other two (we're up to ep 10 or 11 and Veronica's been annoying me more often than not, but I still love her and the other characters most of the time, especially Logan who had some great character development), it's still my favorite show. Or was. Blah.

9 p.m.: "Supernatural." Uhm ... I got nothing. Dude, Jensen Ackles. And it's occasionally funny and cool, but mostly, it's just Jensen and the shots of his really nice ass.

Posted by: Fe at May 17, 2007 8:23 PM

Yeah, folks said it, but R.I.P. Veronica. Take my unrequited crush that, while it did dip some in the second season, came back very strong in the third.

I don't see anybody's mentioned it, but an actress of another of our favorite cancelled shows, namely Firefly, will be getting work on Sarah Connor. Summer Glau's to be playing a Terminator that protects John Connor. That's pretty cool. At least, in theory.

Posted by: Matt P. at May 17, 2007 8:44 PM

Seriously, what is WRONG with people that Veronica Mars is cancelled, Friday Night Lights is hanging on by its proverbial fingertips and ANTM and Pussycat Dolls have high ratings??? Someone should do a study on this: Puerility and Banality in American TV. Maybe Seth can get a dissertation out of it!



And sorry, Matt P., but I have to differ on Summer Glau. She is the ONE thing I don't miss from Firefly. She was a waste of space. (No pun intended.) :)

Posted by: trueblue at May 17, 2007 9:43 PM

Supernatural, I tried, I really tried to like your little show. I mean, I could eat Jensen Ackles with a spoon. When it debuted I watched for, like, five straight weeks, but in the end I had to give up on it.

It depressed me, the way it tries to be clever and snarky and spooky and failing so dully; faded sad ghosts of Buffy in its heyday.

I try to support supernatural-oriented television shows, because the genre could be such rich ground for imaginative storytelling--but it almost never lives up to its potential. It's still television, after all, and most of it is just utter crap.

I'd give New Amsterdam a shot, but it's on Fox, and after what they did with Drive they've broken my little viewer's heart for the very last time.

Posted by: Jerce at May 17, 2007 10:21 PM

Oh Veronica, say it ain't so!!

I'm going to miss that show dearly. One of the only actually worthwhile things to spend an hour watching, and now it's gone. I'm so bummed.

I other news, YES, Kristen Bell is the voice of "Gossip Girl" on the new show of the same name. I just watched parts of the pilot and it is unmistakeably our beloved Veronica doing the voice work,

Not sure about that show yet, but I'll probably watch. Aliens in America and Life is Wild both look awful, the former has a Wonder Years feel that is so horribly tainted by the presence of the clearly racist mother. The latter is basically 7th Heaven in the Savannah. Reaper looks not too bad though.

Posted by: Ashley MacLennan at May 17, 2007 11:01 PM

Knew VM was going to be canceled at some point, it always seems as though T.V. execs never know what they're doing. Pretty much stoped watching t.v ever since Angel got canceled from WB...........Learned my leason then and there.

Just checking in though to see if they would finally put an end to the recyled trash of what is Smallville. WTF happend to that show from season 4 and on? Boggles my mind.

Posted by: jaromir at May 17, 2007 11:16 PM

I am drunk and only now reading Seth's take on the VM cancellation, but I have to reiterate my sentiments from earlier on that VM was one of the best new shows from the past few years and that Dawn Ostroff can totally suck my ass.

Still drunk, still angry. I should be a network exec, they obviously have no balls when it comes to programming.

Posted by: Julie at May 18, 2007 12:11 AM

Bye CW, it was good while it lasted. Veronica Mars will live on in my heart as well as Lorelai and Rory Gilmore.

I really enjoyed the early years of Smallville, but I think it needs to be put to rest before all of its dignity is gone.

I will give Reaper a chance but there is nothing really there to keep me on The CW anymore. I can only hope they reconsider VM....

Posted by: Brian at May 18, 2007 1:23 AM

Supernatural is the best thing on CW now -- great music, killer car, and Jensen Ackles -- yumm.

Sadly, though, we lose Gilmore Girls and VM, and we're left with Another Top Model and Pussycat Dolls?? Seriously?

Have all the Nielsen families been replaced with armies of 12-year-old girls?

Posted by: Debra G at May 18, 2007 1:29 AM

Had my own little wine tribute to Veronica tonight (and, of course, to the oh-so-delicious Logan). Was going through my usual mental rant about the silly general population ignoring the show... and then remembered that I myself only watch(ed) the show over BitTorrent or DVD. Starving student = too cheap for cable.

I often wonder if part of VM's demise was due to an overly technical fan base who, like myself, got their episodes from a non-Nielson source?

...

RIP VM. You can now count yourself part of an exclusive crowd - Arrested Development, Freaks & Geeks, Action, Undeclared, Profit, Lone Gunmen, Angel and of course Firefly.

Posted by: Zoey at May 18, 2007 2:52 AM

My flatmate literally cried when I told her of the demise of Veronica. It got her through a really bad breakup so she's seriously attached to the show. I must admit that I also sniffled (no tears though, honest.)

I choose to see it as three seasons of a perfect show, one they didn't have the chance to mess up for ratings or completely assasinate my favourite characters on (I'm looking at you Grey's). VM was one of the best things ever to have been on TV and now it will remain so forever.

*Sniff* bye bye Veronica, we'll miss you.

In other news: Another season of the Winchester yumminess? Bring it on! I need my weekly dose of boycandy and Supernatural fits the bill just perfectly!

Posted by: Alex the Odd at May 18, 2007 4:51 AM

yuck. the simpsons is still on.
I know The Simpsons gets high ratings, but it really needs to die. I understand why people watch it, theyre clinging to some shred of hope the the show will, by some miracle, regain it's once unsurpassed Conzie era brilliance. But it's time to admit, you havent actually laughed at the Simpsons in years, and if you have you should probably be ashamed.
Also the Simpsons writers have been throwing accusations that the Family Guy plagerized the concept, which is silly since EVERY family sitcom has a retarded father figure and a responsible mother figure, and the similarities between the these specific shows end there.

Posted by: Carrie at May 18, 2007 5:02 AM

I care so little about the FOX lineup that if I cared any less I might actually cease to have brain waves. Well, I'll probably check out New Amsterdam but I haven't regularly watched a FOX show since I can remember, so I don't have high expectations for it. And if I have space on my TiVo, I'll give Life is Wild a chance too.

Posted by: stardust savant at May 18, 2007 8:10 AM

Carrie - "you havent actually laughed at the Simpsons in years"... hell, I haven't even WATCHED the Simpsons in years, forget about laughed at. You're right, it's time for it just go gently into the night.

VM's cancellation is, of course, a tragedy. But it's hardly a surprise. Network TV is like dating the hot girl in high school - it's fun for a while, but it will inevitably let you down. Maybe even cheat on you. Bitch.

Weird that the only shows I own on DVD (other than Buffy) are the ones which were killed by studio execs (VM, Firefly, etc.). Bastards.

Reaper does look interesting, but it reminds me of that show that was out a few years ago about the guy who escaped from hell and had to track down the other escapees... help me out here folks... what the fuck was that show called? Dammit, this is gonna keep me awake tonight.

Posted by: TK at May 18, 2007 9:05 AM

Brimstone! That's what it was called. With John Glover (!) as the Devil.

Sorry. Please, as you were.

Posted by: TK at May 18, 2007 9:11 AM

Posted by: Zoey at May 18, 2007 2:52 AM

I loooooved The Lone Gunmen. Such a fun show. Sigh.

I watch Girlfriends on occasion, it's funny and smart. It's nice to see a minority show with characters that don't fit tired racial stereotypes. The characters are well-developed and the situations real enough to relate to.

I confess to never watching Veronica Mars. Maybe that's for the best from what I see here.

My most fervent wish is that 24 leave TV land forever. Especially since Duncan Hunter R-CA answered a question about terrorism at the RNC Debate Tuesday night with 'I'd want a Jack Bauer to save the day' or something like that. It is decidedy bad for our nation when elected officials rely on fictional characters to make life and death decisions.

Posted by: Clevelandchick at May 18, 2007 9:39 AM

I have a similar phenomenon with my DVD collection TK my ex used to use it as evidence of my terrible taste:

Wonderfalls? Cancelled.
Firefly? Cancelled
Arrested Development? Cancelled.

The list goes on. I personally take it as proof that the general public has terrible taste and I am awesome.

Posted by: Alex the Odd at May 18, 2007 10:00 AM

Farewell Veronica, we hardly knew ye. I'll forgive the uneven season 3 (and the introduction of Piz and Parker at the expense of Mac and Weevil, WTF was that?) because of the brilliance of the first 2 seasons.

Dumbest cancellation since Sports Night.

Posted by: Dusty at May 18, 2007 10:07 AM

Another fan for Supernatural - my husband and I watch mostly due to the music and the storylines (and I never mind adding some Jensen Ackles to the mix). Decent, not great, but decent plots and character development... better than 80% of the total garbage out there right now and so I'm glad to see it coming back.

Posted by: Kirsten at May 18, 2007 10:10 AM

TK, I'm with you. Well, actually, I have to claim 24 and Alias, too...but the high majority of my DVDs are all cancelled shows....Arrested Development, Freaks and Geeks, Undeclared, Wonderfalls (sigh...anyone else excited for Pushing up Daisies???), Firefly...

Posted by: jamie at May 18, 2007 10:11 AM

Veronica Mars is cancelled, and people still wonder why the world hates America?

Posted by: muzz at May 18, 2007 10:18 AM

It's embarrassing, but I love America's Next Top Model, but to be honest, I might just have to give up the habit just since I officially hate all things associated with the CW now.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 18, 2007 11:08 AM

Hey, I'll miss VM too, but Dawn Ostrosh did give it three seasons. The chances that the show would suddenly experience a ratings bonanza were about the same as the chances of Jack Bauer ever taking a leak. It had a great first season, a pretty good second one and an uneven third. There were many reasons for S3's issues, including the transition to college and the budget cuts. I personally thought the show became to much of a showcase for the perils of Logan and Veronica but at the end of the day, there just weren't enough eyeballs. Put it another way--would you pay $9.95 a month to watch VM? Better to kill it now than let it limp to the finish like Buffy did.

Posted by: alone in the dark at May 18, 2007 11:41 AM

Clarification:

I also believe that the progressive decline in quality would have continued to the point that perhaps the fourth and certainly the fifth season would have been painful to watch.

Posted by: alone in the dark at May 18, 2007 11:44 AM

Man this is terrible, I just got into Veronica Mars via Netflix and finished the first two seasons in about two weeks, I am waiting patiently for season three to come out on DVD and now I learn I have no season 4 to look forward too. I guess you can't expect a good show to stick around. Maybe I'll just have to buy all three seasons now so I can enjoy them forever.

Posted by: Warren at May 18, 2007 12:07 PM

No love for Supernatural? Have you ever watched it? Go watch it right now. I'll wait.

Posted by: Nique at May 18, 2007 12:31 PM

I am devastated over the loss of Veronica and have been in mourning all week. She would be the best FBI agent. Alas...

Posted by: Jayne at May 18, 2007 12:55 PM

I hope Gossip Girl isn't terrible. I own and have read the entire series of novels, so Mr. Schwartz better not screw me over.

Posted by: Bianca Reagan at May 18, 2007 1:06 PM

Put it another way--would you pay $9.95 a month to watch VM?

Uh, yes.

Posted by: ewg at May 18, 2007 1:32 PM

I blame you, Orangutan TV Whore for introducing me to Veronica Mars. I only moved back to the States in September but I was already reading Pajiba so I started watching her faithfully thanks to your recommendation and now she's gone and that little part of my cold heart that still watches TV is broken. See how sad I am? I'm barely coherent with the sadness.

Posted by: Lainie at May 18, 2007 2:10 PM

Lainie - hey baby, that's what I do. I break hearts.

Posted by: Seth at May 18, 2007 2:14 PM

Yes, ewg, you would. But not enough people agree with you. As far as the "why can't they keep quality series" complaint goes, well, someone out there is crying in their beer because According to Jim go the axe. Veronica just couldn't pull enough eyeballs to make a case for its continued existence, especially in the face of declining critical approval.

Posted by: alone in the dark at May 18, 2007 3:17 PM

Why the hate for "24"? It's still one of the most exciting 43 minutes on television. It's the perfect TIVO show, watching multi-episodes back to back. Sure, it lacks any humor whatsoever, but so do most of the comedies the networks spew upon us each season. The plots are just plain unbelievable? Uh, if they were believable no one would watch. They are just so, um, you know, pro-America? Yeah, you got me there.

Posted by: James S at May 18, 2007 3:36 PM

Jumping in to add to the 'Supernatural' love. It really tempered my reaction to kill Dawn for 'Veronica Mars' when I realized it was renewed. The two leads are pretty, have great chemistry, kill things and blow things up while driving around in a muscle car and listening to kick-ass music. LOVE the show.

Also, for those who watched a couple first season episodes, try it again. I think they really hit the stride in the second season. When the DVDs come out, put it in your queue.

Posted by: jadeblue at May 18, 2007 3:39 PM

The Game is actually a guilty pleasure of mine, an addendum to BBC's Footballer's Wive$, if you will. Sucks that they had a whole season and will likely be overlooked as a show about Football player's wives once American Footballer's Wive$ starts running.

Posted by: Sarah at May 18, 2007 4:04 PM

I'm truly sorry to see VM go, but it was kinda inevitable. TV costs so much to produce, and if they don't think a show is going to get enough of an audience to be able to make money in DVD sales and syndication, they cut their losses and pull the plug. If you want to blame somebody for the success of crap like ANTM and Pussycat Dolls, blame the teens and young adult women who watch them. TV truly is an idiot box and a show that can manage to eke out some quality and at the same time get defensible ratings is kind of rare (esp. an hour-long drama), that's why they get paid so much when they can do it. I loved Wonderfalls and Firefly, but I wasn't surprised when they were unceremoniously dumped. They were too different to get a mass audience. I'm only surprised that any show turns out to be good. There's so much "reality" crap on now and it does so well in the ratings compared to how much it costs to produce. Bitch about network presidents all you want, but they're running a business, not community theater.

Posted by: LL at May 18, 2007 4:51 PM

James S,

No, the 24 hate grew this year because this season was boooooooooring. The show's always far-fetched, but this year it was just dull.

Posted by: alone in the dark at May 18, 2007 5:47 PM

"8 p.m.: "Beauty and the Geek." I don't quite know what it is about this show, but I'm still enjoying it."

Most likely there is some deep psychological reason if you analyze it enough. But I'm sure it has something to do with beautiful ladies hanging out with geeky guys.

Posted by: Debbye at May 18, 2007 6:18 PM

I'm actually tearing up about the loss of my beloved Veronica. Wow, I didn't realize how attached I was to that show.

Posted by: szs at May 18, 2007 8:38 PM

"The other shame here is that I'm actually mildly intrigued by a couple of the CW's new shows, including the one slated to take "Veronica's" place."

My God, Seth you are a whore. I'm sorry. I'm just so upset. I don't mean to take it out on you, baby.

Posted by: briana at May 18, 2007 8:41 PM

i`ll take a crappy simpsons,family guy,and king of the hillover anything else on FOX(football excluded)Cutting edge T.V , MAYBE LOST FITS

Posted by: pasadenamike at May 18, 2007 9:02 PM

Sarah, it's not just you, I'm hooked on Footballer's Wive$ as well. I'm a bit embarassed to admit it, but it is the ultimate in trashy entertainment. I love America's Next Top Model too, just because it makes me feel like a MENSA member. One of the girls on there once said that wild birds can't see, which is the reason they get frightened when they fly inside. HAH!

Posted by: Claire at May 18, 2007 10:08 PM

I loved Dan Carlson's metaphor. It's so true.. i keep saying that to my male friends when they fall for strippers.. now i have to say that to myself .. i'm still waiting for another network to pick up Veronica though...

Posted by: Mirtha at May 19, 2007 5:53 AM

Mirtha,

Wish away. It ain't gonna happen. Why would another network do that? Which exec is thinking, "You know, we have a hole in our schedule which would be just perfect for a ratings anchor with slipping critical appeal. What could we do? I know!!! Veronica Mars!"

The CW probably did the right thing. I'm just not convinced that the show's creative slide would have been reversed, and without sparkling critical praise (see Buffy) there's no reason for a floundering netlet to renew it.

Posted by: alone in the dark at May 19, 2007 10:05 AM

Thrilled beyond words that Supernatural is back. I haven't been this addicted to a show since the X-Files were in their prime. I cringe at its being ripped to shreds in the rating department because of the night it's on though. Anyway, great show. Fun to watch, lots of eye candy, good acting (from the CW? *gasp*) and really good chemistry between Ackles and Padalecki. They've somehow nailed the brother dynamic in a really interesting way, much like Numb3rs did.

I curse reality tv. Really I do. When smart shows are being cancelled in favor of stuff like The Pussycat Dolls, I see the downfall of civilization (okay, overreacting, but still).

Posted by: crumpeteer at May 19, 2007 2:40 PM

Supernatural being renewed restored some of my hope in television. It's got a little bit of everything: it can be mindless, funny, violent, and then flip on you and churn out some heartbreaking episodes. Jensen Ackles (the prettiest thing on tv, I swear) is actually a pretty damn good actor. And it's always beautifully shot and lit; some episodes have the acting/story/production values to seem like full-blown movies. Second season is definitely much better than the first, and the brother dynamic is one of the most genuine I've seen in a while...

And, they are pretty. And Grey's Anatomy sucks.

Posted by: qwerpy at May 19, 2007 3:20 PM

When they announced Veronica's hiatus for "Pussycat Dolls", I knew we were doomed. When reality TV started to invade the networks back around 99-00, no one would buy into my Chicken Little-ing, but I was fucking right-- when they can produce shows that are so much cheaper and get the same ratings, quality TV will fall, fall, fall. Since then, we've seen the deaths of (in no particular order) "Sports Night", "Undeclared", "Freaks & Geeks", "Arrested Development", "Firefly", "Kidnapped", "Studio 60", and now, worst of all, our beloved "Veronica".

This is why reality TV can suck it. Back in the day, a quality show (your "Cheers" or "Seinfeld" or "Hill Street) that was low-rated would get a real chance because it was so expensive to produce new programming. Now all the greedy suits have to spend is five dollars and a bag of Cheetos, and they've got a hot new reality show.

My other point, though, is this: Has any one ever stopped to question the accuracy of the Nielsen system? Everyone I know watches "VM", as they did "Arrested Development", "SportsNight", etc. No one asks them what they're watching. Do you know anyone who is a Nielsen family?

We should, I know, be thankful that we got the three seasons of "Veronica" that we got. But seriously, the CW can go fuck itself. I hope their pretend network dies a quick but painful death.

Posted by: filmsoncon at May 19, 2007 4:56 PM

filmsoncon,

Hill Street Blues and Cheers were kept on because one man, NBC prez Brandon Tartikoff, wanted to keep them on. Programming expense had nothing to do with it. He believed they were good. Of course, when The Cosby Show came along to serve as the lead-in for Thursday nights, ratings for Cheers skyrocketed as well.

Lots of good shows got canceled quick back in the day. Eerie, Indiana was sacrificed to 60 Minutes in 1991. CBS throttled Frank's Place in 1987. Those are just two I pulled out of the air. I think the "quick trigger" argument just doesn't hold water for Veronica. They got 66 episodes.

I do agree with you about the menace of reality TV, however. Not only is it cheap and low-risk, it foists "celebrities" like Ty Pennington upon us, and even messes with people's ability to receive actual reality, since far, far too many folks think Extreme Home Makeover is untouched and unedited. The idea that the presence of a camera changes a situation by its mere existence causes most people to scratch their heads and go "Huh?"

Posted by: alone in the dark at May 19, 2007 6:59 PM

And, they are pretty. And Grey's Anatomy sucks.

Can I just say I love you for that?

Also jumping in with the Supernatural love. Gives me some hope that the US can make good TV shows.

Never got a chance to watch Veronica Mars, so I can't join in with the wibbling over it's loss. I've been meaning to rent it. Anyways, even if it isn't on TV, if the fandom stays strong I'm sure that there'll be at least one group doing a virtual season sooner or later.

Posted by: Danya at May 19, 2007 7:14 PM

[i]Put it another way--would you pay $9.95 a month to watch VM?[/i]
HELL yes. More than that, even.

I am going to miss the hell out of Veronica. Seriously. She gave me strength, and I know that sounds cheesy, but it's true. Watching her go through shit and keep her head held high, even when people hated her, even when her life went down the toilet...it helped me. She didn't lie to me, she didn't tell me that life wasn't all that bad. As she said in the pilot "Life's a bitch, and then you die." What she did show me was that despite all that, you can still keep going, and you can still keep trying to be a good person.

And no matter what people might have said about her recently, Veronica is still a good person at heart.

Glad to hear Supernatural was renewed though, that's the one glimmer of hope I get from the Upfronts. I haven't seen season 2 yet (I'm in New Zealand and we only just hit the halfway mark of season 1, but I got the DVDs last year) but I hear it's good. And hell, I sat through all of Season 1 with barely an eye-roll - well, okay many eye-rolls, but the point is that I sat through it - and that is because I have already proven to myself that I will watch ANYTHING with Jensen Ackles in it.

(BTW...If you haven't seen him in Dark Angel yet, check it out. Crappy show, but damn is he good...his one appearance as a guest star in season 1 was the series' best episode, and led to him becoming a regular in season 2. I think I love him even more as Alec than I do as Dean, but the verdict of SN's 2nd season is not yet in, so...watch this space.)

As for VMars, it will have a place in my heart and on my DVD shelf for as long as I live. Rock on Rob Thomas and I look forward to your next project. I don't care what it is, I will be there with bells on to champion you right the way through, until that too gets cancelled by crappy TV execs... *sigh*

Posted by: hamsterblonde at May 19, 2007 8:40 PM

Bones... The first season was indeed good enough. The second season was/has been a recreation of Grey's for E! readers. You see, Dr. Brennan is finding "the world outside full of body language, human subtlety and infatuation games". It's been running *really* hard to assume the pseudo-romantic stance of that other train wreck. "Let's solve bone crimes at any time we're not too busy being jealous, playing hard to get or throwing double-meaning punch lines".

As for Veronica, I could never watch it, even if I wanted to. What I find really weird about it is that so many people are complaining, there was so much expectation surrounding it and the public seem to like it so much... and it's not being renewed. Meanwhile, the Trannycat Dopes go on...

Try to catch some Supernatural if you can. It's entertaining enough, and great for us pop details' lovers.

Posted by: Gargumma at May 19, 2007 11:33 PM

Jeff- We're headed right for a garbage landslide and monster truck rallies with giant phalluses attached to the vehicles!

I love Supernatural. Hot guys, hot car, kick ass music, killer clowns.... Seriously though, why it gets second billing behind Smallville is beyond me. I can't stand that show.

We'll all miss VM while we try not to stratch out our eyes while watching commercials for ANTM and PD. Everytime I see one of those my i.q. just shrinks a little more.

Posted by: jen at May 19, 2007 11:36 PM

"Let's solve bone crimes..."
Worst. Euphemism. For. Sex. Ever

Posted by: alone in the dark at May 19, 2007 11:51 PM

two words. how gay...
okay i lied a few more...vm was the best show. and yet the pcd stays...does that not say something about modern society?...we don't want to see female protagonists unless their shaking their thang? what ever happened to smart women? classy and respectful character? beats me, the only words people seem to want to hear out of women's mouths come periodically and always during the same thing...vm was clever and entertaining...and nothing comes close...well unless ur a sick 14 year old boy....bye bye the only show that promoted gender equality and empowered women...oh what is the UN gonna do? are the MDGs gonna accomplish themselves? how is gender equality gonna be established now? okay well it will somehow...i just like sensationalizing everthing...
gossip girl soundds good. the oc was good but not nearly as good as vm...hopefully i can get a bit of oc and vm at once seeing kristens apparantly in it

*ignore my lack of punctuation.its a comp thing.

Posted by: Emily at May 20, 2007 2:24 AM

ROFL
Worst. Euphemism. For. Sex. Ever

But it was no euphemism! LOL
That's what they do in the freaking show, they solve crimes based on bones - if they get the time to do it.

Posted by: Gargumma at May 20, 2007 5:46 PM

How come all you can freakin' talk abou is Veronica Mars?? What abou Gilmore Girls being cancelled? HUH? What about that???

Posted by: Julia at May 20, 2007 9:17 PM

How come all you can freakin' talk abou is Veronica Mars?? What abou Gilmore Girls being cancelled? HUH? What about that???

Posted by: Julia at May 20, 2007 9:17 PM

Yes, people do question Nielsen ratings. Advertisers wonder why they're paying so much for network time when network ratings have been going steadily down. They don't like time-shifting and they really don't like the ad-skipping feature of DVR. They're paying hundreds of thousands of dollars for 30-second spots, they want to know people are actually watching them.

Nets still get the highest ratings, compared to the highest rated cable shows. The two-hour episode of Gray's Anatomy got 21 million viewers. A recent Sopranos episode got about 8 million. ABC can sell 22 minutes worth of 30-second spots at about (this is a guess) $700,000 each. And it's not just about ratings, it's about demos. If a show can consistently deliver millions of a certain demo (like teenage girls or men 18-35), it's worth more to advertisers than a higher-rated show that delivers multiple demos.

Posted by: Ll at May 20, 2007 10:33 PM

I have also been trying to use the Buffy argument as to why it's a good thing that VM stopped now, nobody really understood until I made them sit through Once More With Feeling and then they saw the light (I mean, honestly! Why not tailor the songs to the actors who will be singing them, you know the cast well enough after 6 seasons, Joss! *ahem* moving on).

Hell yes for the Jensen love in Dark Angel, he's the only reason I didn't smash my TV when they demanded "spinals" in order to take DNA (that still makes me cringe actually, I should probably attempt to forget about it but I just can't. Spinals? Seriously?)

Posted by: Alex the Odd at May 21, 2007 7:17 AM

I've never seen VM, but having just spent a weekend at a convention where Michael Muhney and Jason Dohring were two of the guests, I was so charmed by them - and the obvious enthusiasm of the VM fans present - that I'm now going to rent it.

After which, I guess, I too may be crying 'Why, God? Why?' and cursing Dawn Ostroff's name!
Though many of the fans seemed to think that season three was not so good, so perhaps after watching that I may see her point.....

I am pleased that Supernatural got renewed, though.

Posted by: tarn at May 21, 2007 2:58 PM

The funniest thing to come from Cops is without a doubt RONNIE DOBBS!!!!


Run Ronnie Run!

Posted by: m at May 21, 2007 5:24 PM

You've got nothing for Supernatural?! It's a thousand times better than most of the other crap out there, Jensen and Jared are great actors, and it's well-directed. Be nice!

Posted by: R at May 27, 2007 12:02 AM

I love supernatural. I'm glad to see a new crop of the "odd and different" shows popping up. I also agree with the comments about Jensen! Hottie! I'm thrilled to see it back and I hope it stays for a long time to come

Posted by: Kryss at September 19, 2007 10:06 PM