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"Monsters from the Id!"

By Steven Lloyd Wilson | Posted Under Trade News | Comments (22)



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J. Michael Straczynski has signed on to write a remake of the 1956 classic sci-fi film The Forbidden Planet. Echoing the story of The Tempest, it envisions an abandoned planet, its inhabitants far advanced beyond humanity and apparently extinguished in a single night two hundred thousand years previously. Their technology churns on without them but when a human expedition lands, it too is wiped out mysteriously, leaving only an old scientist and his daughter as survivors. The story picks up twenty years later as a second expedition arrives, and anything but hilarity ensues.

Straczynski has insisted that it really is neither a remake, a reimagining, a prequel, a sequel, or retro. Just by process of elimination I think that means it’s either completely unrelated to the original or will actually be made by cut and pasting scenes from the old one into the new one.

There is little early word on the project other than that Straczynski is focusing more of the plot on telling the story of the first expedition, and that Warner is hoping it turns into a franchise (because every studio wants to turn every movie into a franchise) so they’re throwing a decent amount of money at the project. Says Straczynski: “There’s a little more action, but it’s still a strong character piece, because it’s based on The Tempest and the idea of a father whose daughter is being courted by, in the original play, sailors that are washed up on shore, you need to have that dynamic still in place to respect the original and the source material. So there’s a fair amount of talking, but there’s some really cool action pieces in it as well.”

Remake fever is a scourge on creativity, but I think fifty years is honorable enough spacing, especially if they’re handing over the reins to people with both talent and appreciation for the source material. While many older films are immortal and timeless, special effects reliant science fiction tends to be vulnerable to severe dating regardless of the overall quality of the piece. The comparably poor special effects can render a brilliant piece of art unwatchable by today’s audience, because the audience only has so much capacity for suspension of disbelief. Often there are scenes or story elements that just were not possible to accomplish with the technology of the day. By all means, don’t Michael Bay the thing, but making the spaceships a little sexy never hurt anyone.

The original starred Leslie Nielsen long before he became a spoof of a spoof, but the new project is far too early in development to even have rumors of actors. I nominate Ian McKellen as Morbius and Natalie Portman as Altaira.

(source: SciFi Wire)









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Comments

Y'all know my feelings on remakes so I won't do a repeat.

/It will be stupid and 'splody

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at November 25, 2009 9:07 AM

Son of a BITCH. My mom and I were just talking a couple of weeks ago about when they were going to get around to remaking this. I don't give a shit how much "better" the special effects are these days, they will never be able to match the eerie majesty of the monster in the original.

I merely avoided watching the new The Day the Earth Stood Still; this one might provoke me to violence.

Posted by: Todd at November 25, 2009 9:10 AM

As long as it is in space, and there are no spider totems, history-rewriting demons, or Joe Quesada around, Straczynski has a shot.

Posted by: Smoking Crater (formerly Vermillion) at November 25, 2009 9:16 AM

I have no doubt that Straczynski's intentions are totally honourable but, the studio will force it to be a assplody mess. Let's remember that art isn't the driving force here; Dolla, dolla bills are.

Posted by: admin at November 25, 2009 9:40 AM

Intriguing.

As a kid, I loved the orignal (I'm not *that* old...it used to come on Saturday evening television sometimes)..the invisible monster freaked me out, esp. the scene where it pounds at the door trying to get in.

While the ray guns could use an update, PLEASE don't subject Robbie the Robot to the "Lost in Space Remake" treatment.

Posted by: Jacktrade at November 25, 2009 9:51 AM

I dunno - if the id monster is portrayed with a nice horrific Alien touch, I'd see it. Just to see Shia LeBouf be ripped apart on screen into gibblets before the entire crew.

Posted by: idiosynchronic at November 25, 2009 9:51 AM

I just have to know, are they going to break Robby out of the museum to reuse him?

That's about the only thing about this movie that I remember.

Posted by: UncleJR at November 25, 2009 9:52 AM

This is a cherished piece of nostalgia for me, I watched it over and over when I was little - despite how much the monster and its sound effects frightened me. As I grew older and came to appreciate both the psychological and literary aspects of the film I grew to love it more.

Unfortunately, every time I watch it I cringe at the dreadful stereotypes, horrible dialogue and worse acting. Consequently, I always consider "Wouldn't it be delightful to see this lifted from some of its B-Movie roots and elevated to something more refined and meaningful." Shortly thereafter I recall the horrors Hollywood visits upon remakes on the order of this one. Simply put, I cannot convince myself that a modern filmmaker would pay delicate homage to the special effects, sounds and core story of Forbidden Planet.

I think Mr. Wilson makes a good point about films such as this showing their age. I believe the special effects have aged rather nicely. An exception, I'm sure, to the norm.

Posted by: Lubeg at November 25, 2009 9:56 AM

Or right. If it has Tits and Robots you will all be spinning in your chairs over it.

Posted by: Lindsey with an 'e' at November 25, 2009 11:21 AM

I agree with admin--no matter how great the original intention is, some executive fucknut will insist on removing 2/3rds of the plot in favor of adding more booms.

Posted by: Minty at November 25, 2009 1:32 PM

Gods Damn It.

::goes back to bed and pulls the covers over his eyes::

Posted by: The Wanderer at November 25, 2009 3:03 PM

Oh, Godtopus. Yes, yes it could be a good thing. (Dream On) But, we all know what's going to happen ...

Warning - massive spoilers. I mean Christina Hendricks' tracts of land-sized spoilers ahead. You have been warned.

The "not a remake" will go like this:

* The explore-y stuff before they reach the planet will be a montage with voice-over. But, they'll add The Moral(tm). Out loud. In words. At the start of the movie. Wouldn't want anyone depending on what's in the film for that. (Walk this Way)

* The new guys land on exactly the same spot as the first guys, starting another montage of both expeditions setting up & exploring with fades of overlapping action just to make sure you get it - this has all happened before. (Jaded)

* Altaira will be Jessica Alba or Megan Fox. (Girls of Summer)

* The robot will be the other one. Either has the range for a robot. (Rag Doll)

* They'll keep the sylphing about shots. Indeed, we'll advance from back when it went blooey to now with a montage of a girl and her mechanical friend bathing / frolicking / lubing through the years (by Steely Dan.) For the art. (Crazy)

* When the new guys finally confront Morbius Dr. Denethor we'll get more exposition over a montage of today's tour and the original exploration. (Love in An Elevator)

* Dr. Denethor realizes the id-monster is people he'll go all emo freak-out while Robberta / Altaira / Alba / Fox goes all vengeful. Yep, a montage of regret & revenge, with rain and stuff. No voice-over, just the lyrics. (Janie's Got a Gun)

* Captain Studly-Guy - played by Marky Mark - closes the movie agonizing out loud about maybe we're not all that, over a montage of angry monkeys. You know, just in case we missed The Message(r)(tm). (Living On The Edge)

How do I know, besides, you know, of course they will? He's focusing more on the first expedition. File that under "not clear on the concept."

First, the heart of the original is the creepy dread that comes from the first expedition's disappearance, Grendel's sudden depredations, and the strange perfect people magically living there unharmed. There's no tension in the first guys' adventure. Go somewhere strange. Find bizarre stuff. Weird things happen. If you know what happened to the first guys, the second guys are just: "Oh, right. Id-monster."

Second, the moral(izing) of the original fits with 1950s / 1960s confidence in techno-topia. These days, when all tech is Taco Bell Frankenstein's monster "maybe we're not all that" is neither revelation or resolution.

Finally, absent tension or character arcs, montages let us overwhelm the senses and pour The Message into people's brains by telling them. It also spares us all that inconvenient, dialog, plot, characterization, acting, pacing - oh, right - story-telling.

The Aerosmith sound track will be the best part.

Kurosawa / Leone '12
If we're gonna have "homage" all over things, let's get some guys who can do it right.

Posted by: BierceAmbrose at November 25, 2009 7:10 PM

For its day, the special effects in the original are actually pretty good. But ,daughter bought a cheap DVD she meant to give someone for a gift and forgot, so we watched it one night and Godtopus have mercy, that movie is BOOORING.

Posted by: , (just , cause I'm tired of typing that other shit) at November 26, 2009 12:55 AM

Your tiny,apelike brain can not contain the mighty knowlege of the Krell! Yikes! I guess the dialog COULD use a little spiffing up although old Walter Pigeon almost made it work through sheer majesty if not outright acting chops!

Posted by: Bob Gould at November 28, 2009 3:08 AM

I am afraid that no matter how well the acting is and the dialog and the effects and whatever else goes into making a great movie ... you are always going to find that you have offended someone with your aproach. I loved the origional "The day the Earth stood still" ... and enjoyed the second one. But with the pandering of the market today to people with a grade 10 or less education you're going to get watered down intellect on the set. Just look at what they did with "The Great Escape" oh sorry that was "2012".

Posted by: Tom at February 1, 2010 6:42 PM

Civilization without instrumentation; that was the Krell. If the creators of the new Forbidden Planet cannot match the core of the movie, why do a remake? It will totally suck, just like the new Time Machine in the 1990's. I suggest the new movie go back a million years to the day of the Krell; showing their last days and how they were wiped out overnight by the monster from the ID, their own subconscious mind. Then Morbius from the twenty third century et al land there and his buddies get wiped out, but Morbius is the one who gets the brain boost but doesn't realize that the villian is his own mind. THEN show 20 years later the second expedition landing and putting two and two together aka Kirk, Spock and McCoy, finally hightailing it out of there as the planet is set for destruct, with a spectacular explosion. You could even add a bit of mystery in that Altaira has inherited the curse of the ID, demonstrating a somehow giveaway characteristic, as they head back to Earth; which could have been an original colony of the Krell, perhaps, if the biology is the same; which they were not, but things could change over a million years.

Posted by: Gene at February 27, 2010 4:28 AM

J. Michael Straczynski is the man to pull this off. He pulled a good number of elements from the original movie for the series Babylon 5.
I agree with Jacktrade about Robbie. Just don't do it!
I look forward to his take on this Sci-Fi Classic.

Posted by: Terry at April 12, 2010 1:00 PM

I wrote a sequel. Since I have no chance in hell of ever selling it, here's the gist: at the end of FP, they push the plunger and leave and the planet blows up. Unbenownst to them, there were Krell in suspended animation deep below the surface, and the activating the destruction autoawakens them and the machinery lofts them away from the planet before the big boom. In an E.E.Smithian way, the Krell have been stuffed into a giant ship containing most of their technologies. They know their home was destroyed and they want to know who and why, and they track and follow the Earth ship back...only, they have the awesome power of the Krell machines backing them, and are pissed. Though they no longer have the enormous power sources the installation on the homeworld had, they develop newer, more compact, and more powerful sources, so they're going to be formidable. The Earth ship however is bringing back records of the Krell technology and even while in flight to Earth, they're cracking into it and too developing a more modern version. So the ground is set for a big confrontation. Maybe even monster against monster, maybe even the ability to fling monsters long distances through shields...

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Posted by: Michael Loki at June 1, 2010 10:37 PM

Forbidden planet part two should be about the crew
returning to Earth with Robby Robot and they land on a Flying Saucer base out west somewhere. The whole base gets secured by military men and Flying saucers orbiting the air fields. They then would show off the men in their uniforms and how they preflight the flying saucres to attack any unauthorized spacecrafts attacking earth. However this never happens of couse but the flying saucer traing as in the movie bombers 52 with jimmy Steward based on the B47s and the B52s, was a good movie. Or even a demonstration fo th future space forces and the men in their space uniforms, such as in Star wars.

Posted by: Michael loki at June 1, 2010 10:49 PM

Seems that remakes are more "special effects" than plot and original story line and plot.

It would be refreshing for a remake to be made that held true to the original story but made use of special effects to enhance the story, not change or deviate from it.

Posted by: Ron at October 8, 2010 3:50 PM

I would like to some changes from the original movie. Make the space ship crew more diverse with women and minorites. And show some flashbacks of the Krell, the beings that inhabited forbiden belore the earthlings arrive there.

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