There’s another small promo-trailer out for Joss Whedon’s winter series, “Dollhouse,” featuring the exquisitely-assed Eliza Dushku. It’s had some fairly hyped production problems, but it does have an interesting premise. Unfortunately, it’s hard to tell what that premise is from the promo alone. But it’s Whedon, and no matter how convoluted it is, we’re all guaranteed to be more patient with it than Fox will be. So, look forward to 11 shiny-new episodes that present hundreds of thought-provoking questions that will never be answered because the series will be cancelled, only to be resurrected temporarily on the big screen. Thanks Fox!
Sorry but I'm just not gonna bother investing my time on something that will just get dropped after the 6th episode.
No, I choose to FIIIIIIGHT BACK! and not watch.
Posted by: BarbadoSlim at November 6, 2008 5:04 PM
Butthole!
Posted by: Jim Bob at November 6, 2008 5:05 PM
I love Joss Whedon... but Eliza Dushku is a terrible actress.
Posted by: Lou at November 6, 2008 5:15 PM
I have no idea in the slightest as to why Whedon is credited as the creator of Buffy the Vampire Slayer & Angel, but not FireFly, his last Fox show.Would anyone care to enlighten me as to why that would fail to get mentioned, anyone?
Posted by: cockroach at November 6, 2008 5:16 PM
Doesn't NBC already have this show with Christian Slater?
Posted by: Kat at November 6, 2008 5:18 PM
Maaaaaaybe, you mean every word you say, can't help but think of yesterday, and another who tied me down to the loverboy rules...
Thanks Rowles, I'll be humming this one all week now!
Posted by: isabelle at November 6, 2008 5:20 PM
Because they want to mention shows people will, you know, recognize. From having watched? No one watched Firefly. It was like Family Guy...a lot of people loved it passionately, but no one WATCHED it enough to save it from Fox's rather broad stroke.
Posted by: Kat at November 6, 2008 5:20 PM
Where's my husband...ummm,I mean, Helo??
Posted by: merle at November 6, 2008 5:21 PM
Where's my husband...ummm,I mean, Helo, I mean, what's his face with the muscles??
Posted by: merle at November 6, 2008 5:22 PM
OK, so they wipe her memories every few days. What happens if the first fake memory load is atotal slut, but then the second fake memory load is a virgin, and she discovers she's got herpes and crabs and stuff? What if one fake memory likes to practice safe sex, but another one doesn't? Doesn't seem fair to fuck with someone that way.
Posted by: BWeaves at November 6, 2008 5:25 PM
Kat No one watched Firefly. It was like Family Guy...a lot of people loved it passionately, but no one WATCHED it enough to save it from Fox's rather broad stroke.
I was being sarcastic, okay? But, I'm excused not having watched it on TV, being British, and I think Americans are excused too, because watching a plot arc driven show out off order must be damn annoying
Posted by: cockroach at November 6, 2008 5:26 PM
You know, the way Whedon comes up with the great, interesting, thought-provoking tv shows and then purposely allows FOX to produce them knowing that they'll probably get the axe because they're so different and thought-provoking and good sort of makes me want to hate the guy...but then again, he did give us the gift of Fillion.
BWeaves so they wipe her memories every few days. What happens if the first fake memory load is atotal slut, but then the second fake memory load is a virgin, and she discovers she's got herpes and crabs and stuff? What if one fake memory likes to practice safe sex, but another one doesn't? Doesn't seem fair to fuck with someone that way.
But what if her real personality is into playing the S&M sub role in a major ways, so she's okay with it all?
Posted by: cockroach at November 6, 2008 5:41 PM
It's all sci-fi again, just like Firefly. What's wrong with loosing the sci-fi element, mix it up a bit?
What ever was wrong with the old fashioned way of doing it; get a girl multiple personality disorder, a case of Rohypnol, and a whiskey chaser?
Posted by: cockroach at November 6, 2008 5:44 PM
Cockroach: Being as it's Dushku, you're probably right.
Did anyone else think that the blond guy was a nerdy Fillion, until you got a closer look and got less excited about it all?
Posted by: BWeaves at November 6, 2008 5:45 PM
*losing
/I swear I'm not one of those people that uses loose instead of lose intentionally- they should all go die choking on a fur ball spat into their mouths by a LOL cat while Rick Astley plays on youtube
Posted by: cockroach at November 6, 2008 5:48 PM
It has Eliza Dushku and that is all it needs.That and not to chew the gooch.
Posted by: admin at November 6, 2008 5:55 PM
I hope this sucks. Just to stick in your Star Wars hating craw. Yeah Joss Whedon is great EXCEPT FOR THE GLARING SUCKAGE OF DOLLHOUSE. Prepare to amend your love letters, bitches. And where would the space cowboy be without Han Solo! His laid back ways paved a path for the Malcolm Reynolds of today. I will Not Let This Die!
Posted by: Optimus Rhyme at November 6, 2008 6:03 PM
Posted by: Optimus Rhyme at November 6, 2008 6:03 PM
HEAR HEAR!
Posted by: BarbadoSlim at November 6, 2008 6:04 PM
Oohh. Can't watch it at work, but as soon as I get home! I'll watch it I say.
I heard that it's on FOX because they offered Eliza a show for her to star in, and she called Joss and they got together and created one. If that's true, then it would explain going back to that horrible, horrible channel.
Posted by: ghost toast at November 6, 2008 6:13 PM
Eliza Dushku, while super-hot, is a beeyotch. I was in the VIP area at a concert a few years ago, and she was there too, wearing a total "look-at-me!" outfit and simultaneously ignoring everyone.
Posted by: Ariel at November 6, 2008 6:18 PM
She does put out a major cunty vibe.
I'd say I *like* her in concept. In other words I'd let her fellate me, but that would be it.
Posted by: BarbadoSlim at November 6, 2008 6:26 PM
lou I so agree, i mean true calling was so incredibly bad and a lot of it had to do with her being pretty damn crappy but joss whedon always made her work well so I have high expectations, plus people it's a brand new world we gotta have brand new hopes!! I mean I bet obama is gonna get fox to order a new season of firefly cause that's the kind of inspiring show we need to watch. browncoats won in real life. the end
oh yeah i'm still high
Posted by: rio at November 6, 2008 6:35 PM
And just so we are clear, Dushku, like Whedon, is as one note as they come.
She plays ALL her "characters" as if she were playing Faith, which is just another way of saying she's playing Eliza Dushku.
Posted by: BarbadoSlim at November 6, 2008 6:41 PM
Dushku was the dummy who starred in that "groundhog day" show, where in the entire first season she was confused about waking up in the same day all over again.
She also had a creepy relationship with her "brother."
As much as I enjoyed Whedon's Dr Horrible, and Firefly of course, I don't have very high expectations with Dushku in the starring role.
Mmmmm. Han Solo and Captain Mal. Dude. I'll see you kids later.
Posted by: Captain Steve at November 6, 2008 7:16 PM
I liked Elisha as Faith, but I'm not sure if putting her in the lead is going to work. She wasn't that good of an actress I thought. But Faith was about being a kick-ass, not about her dramatic skills...so...who knows?
Posted by: ph at November 6, 2008 7:39 PM
Actually, Two Guys, a Girl, and a Pizza Place gave us Fillion.
Posted by: alone in the dark at November 6, 2008 7:57 PM
Hmm... looks like a cross between Dark City and Minority Report. Could be interesting. I'll probably end up waiting til it comes out on DVD, though.
That chick just can't get a break. She's serviceable sure, but every damned thing she gets launched crashes on her. It makes me feel bad (vaguely, on a thursday).
Although, I do remember a REALLY painful moment with her from Bring It On where she's wearing the 'hot, dressed up' outfit, and she decides to get a little jiggy at her front door to celebrate the attention. Um, she may be able to leap around tough-ly, but dance she can't.
Posted by: replica at November 6, 2008 8:46 PM
I mean I bet obama is gonna get fox to order a new season of firefly cause that's the kind of inspiring show we need to watch. browncoats won in real life. the end
Please, Obama is totally Alliance. He wants to change change CHANGE, the Alliance tried to change people. Universal healthcare and redistribution of wealth anyone?
Independen t= Maverick=Browncoat = John McCain (allegedly)
Though if Obama did get Firefly back somehow, I'd never say another negative word about him, might even vote for him for a second term.
Posted by: TryScience at November 6, 2008 9:22 PM
I have to respectfully disagree with you TryScience. ALL politicians are Alliance. We're the Browncoats, and it's about time we took up arms against the oppressors!!
Are you all with me?
No?
Damn, it's like Serenity valley all over again... I got no support.
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Posted by: lissw at November 7, 2008 3:49 AM
She may have an exquisite ass but you can't see it in that picture. She looks like Karen Carpenter.
Posted by: AdaHaze at November 7, 2008 6:00 AM
I'm hopeful, but not too hopeful. I'd rather see another Whedon show with Fillion, or Tom Lenk, or Amber Benson, or... well, most of the others really. I'm not sure of her acting & show-carrying skilz.
"Eliza Dushku, while super-hot, is a beeyotch."
Not in my (limited) experience, but I guess YMMV. I spent two days working on her 'team' at a signing event, and she was totally fine, friendly and approachable. No diva stuff at all.
Posted by: Tarn at November 7, 2008 7:20 AM
How much faith do I have in Whedon?
ALL of it.
Posted by: Baboon at November 7, 2008 7:48 AM
Word is Dollhouse and Terminator are both being moved to Fridays when Dollhouse debuts. So expect even less support than usual. Of course in that low expectation time slot maybe Fox will stick with it, who knows? Oh who am I kidding, it will make it to episode 3 then be replaced by Who Wants to Marry a 1st Grader? or whatever awful reality show Fox cooks up next.
Posted by: TylerDFC at November 7, 2008 8:34 AM
TylerDFC,
sadly, I think you may be right.
Fox are total cunts, aren't they?
Posted by: Tarn at November 7, 2008 9:59 AM
"Although, I do remember a REALLY painful moment with her from Bring It On where she's wearing the 'hot, dressed up' outfit, and she decides to get a little jiggy at her front door to celebrate the attention. Um, she may be able to leap around tough-ly, but dance she can't."
Yes, Ted... that was the joke.
Posted by: firedmyass at November 7, 2008 10:44 AM
Is it just me or is it kind of the same music as the House MD opening ? (it would make sense since "Dollhouse" sounds kind of like "House"...)
Posted by: Ju at November 7, 2008 4:14 PM
OK, I'm far too lazy to look up any more info on this, but does anyone else get the impression that she's not actually going out and living these "lives", but that the experience is all in her mind, a la Vanillla Sky? It would neatly circumvent the "Hey, I'm a virgin with crabs, WTF?" angle. Either way, I'm skeptical of whether the Dushku's got the range to play so many characters. We shall see, Whedon, we shall see.
Posted by: Lolly at November 7, 2008 4:21 PM
Well, in case there was any hope a-buildin' Dollhouse is now officially scheduled for the death slot at 21:00 Fridays, there's another script-doctoring delay, and some suit at Fox is quoted publicly saying it isn't quite what he thought when he greenlighted the thing. It seems the recent election burned up most of our spare audacity and hope. Sigh. See Wheodonesque for the latest.
As for the substantive comments, since Dushku & company are programmed with new personalities with each assignment, there's no real need for sophisticated, layered acting. Each round can be more of an acting workshop-y shallow take. That, while simultaneously having large soft boobs eyes, perky boobs personality, and ample, soft, luxurious boobs hair is well within the lead's range.
Meanwhile, Joss-the-master-of-many-now has often used his leads, women characters, and even well-formed, strong women characters as almost formal devices within stories. Much of his work reads kind of like the medieval "everyman" plays, where the lead / protagonist is a symbol - helpfully named "everyman" - more an archetype than a person. There's no friendly, us-but-better lead we can root for, identify with or, you know lust after. (That is, unless you're OK with a contrived experience, an experiment, really in "no strings" getting it on with the flavor of the week. Works for me, but I'm shallow.) With Dollhouse the lead is named "Eco", folks. So . . .
Whedon the showrunner, show creator, producer, pitcher-to-networks needs to reconcile his storytelling goals with his choice of venue. Dr. Horrible and the various comics are one way to do this. If he wants to do a series for Tee Vee he needs to work with networks & etc. that can sustain a show with a smaller audience, that aren't afraid of ideas that reach, and will tolerate some ramp-up time as the show finds its niche.
It's the McDonalds' problem. McDonalds sells millions of toad-burgers a day. To sell the millions they have to be, well, McDonalds. Shiro-san at Shiro's Sushi (or any of the other artists in food hereabouts) if he chooses to stay Shiro-san will never sell millions of anything a day.
Whedon-san makes story sushi - not for everyone, but almost a religion for those who like it. He needs a business manger to slap him upside the head to remind him what business he is in, or trying to be in, despite the compelling eloquence of Ms. Dushku's boobs eyes over lunch.
Boobs / More Boobs '12
Posted by: BierceAmbrose at November 7, 2008 6:04 PM
Actually, the soap opera One Life to Live brought us Fillion. He played Joey
Posted by: kimmie at November 10, 2008 11:37 AM
Actually the soap opera One Life to Live brought us Fillion. He played Joey Buchanan.
Sorry but I'm just not gonna bother investing my time on something that will just get dropped after the 6th episode.
No, I choose to FIIIIIIGHT BACK! and not watch.