Pajiba

OH MY GOD YES!!!!!

Please, please, please more Tennant and DEFINITELY use it to tell the River Song/Doctor relationship story!

*tingly tingly good feeling in me pants!*

I feel your pain Seth. I cannot imagine why, with the fiscal problems that California/L.A. have, this amount of money THAT WILL NOT BE REIMBURSED BY THE JACKSON FAMILY is being pissed away using police time and other LA personnel. I would be furious if this were happening where I pay taxes.

On topic comment: I'm really nervous about a movie version of Doctor Who. There is so much more commercial pressure on a film as opposed to a BBC show that doesn't rely on advertising. I fear the worst in terms of diluting plots, humour, character development, etc. Although at least the movie pressure will push for someone attractive as a companion so thank God we are assured not to see Donna Noble raising her ugly head again.

Is Hollywood doing this for American audiences? That sounds like a terrible idea. No one will know what it's about. It needs to be made by the English Hollywood. What is that, by the way? Merchant-Ivory?

As much as I'd love to see the River Song backstory, it would have to happen with a FUTURE doctor (i.e. NOT David Tennant).

They've done 2 Dr. Who movies back in the 1960's and they were crap, despite being the exact same scripts as the first two Dalek story arcs. Peter Cushing played a human inventor who called himself Dr. Who (boooooooo). Still, they made a lot of money. I would definitely go see a David Tennant big screen Dr. Who movie.

Here's my biggest problem (not that I wouldn't go to see Tennant just stand there and grin, mind you): I can't see them getting this made without product placement and building up these really fancy special effects, both of which would completely ruin the look and feel of Doctor Who. Imagine a bunch of sophisticated CGI aliens instead of some needy extras running around in rubber suits? I would weep and then have to mutilate whoever was sitting near me in the cinema.

Didn't she? I thought she knew him but he didn't know her? Need to watch again!

WHAAA?

He didn't recognize HER. She's from farther along in Ten's timeline, but she knows his face.

Ten didn't recognize her because he hadn't met her yet (she summoned him through psychic paper). She knew she had summoned The Doctor but didn't know he would show up looking different to the one she knew. She figured it out pretty quickly, but it was clear that her Doctor did not look like Ten.

Also, there's this (from the official backgrounder):

"River does discover that the Doctor is an earlier form of himself than the Doctor she tried to contact...In the original series those that knew certain Time Lords well were able to recognize them even after multiple regenerations. If River Song deeply loved the Doctor one might assume she recognized before she noticed his age or even his previous regeneration."

So, the back story Doctor could not look like Tennant

There's nothing in the script about that. She only says he looks younger.

Lemme see it outta Moff's mouth.

Jay:

You're right, there is nothing in the script, but there are backgrounders that are prepared in addition to the script and it's in there.

I thought that River Song met Ten at least once before...when he gave her a sonic screwdriver. She said that he turned up with a new face and gave it to her, and figured out why he'd done it right at the end there.

I'll show you mine if you show me yours!
Really, are we twelve?

Look, I'm not trying to start an argument, I'm just saying everything I've read backs up BWeaves' assertion that Tennant could not play the Doctor in a backstory film. And by the way, Alex Kingston couldn't play River Song either because she would have been younger when she met the future version of The Doctor.

I went to journalism school, honey, and I'm a librarian. I want sources.

And if it's on the books why aren't they clearer about it? That just seems silly.

Damn you, Weeble!!

GEEK FIIIIIIGHT!!!!

*throws a chair, *

So you have no case and are banking on persuasive argument?

I'm not saying it's a fact that I'm right, I just wanna know.

I've got twenty what says sugartits knows her stuff. Who wants in on this?

I've been watching Dr. Who since 1964 and my word is the final answer. Now go to your rooms, and no TV until your father gets home.

You're, like, so old. But I'm going to have to disagree with you (and since you'll have to catch me to administer a beating and I'm not, what's the word, oh yeah, OLD, I'm confidant of my ability to evade you). There's nothing in the episode to indicate that Ten isn't the Doctor River knows, so unless I see some linkage proving otherwise, I'm gonna have to go with Ten being River's Doctor.

PaddyDog is right. I have seen that episode at least 4 times, and River does make some comment about him not having the same face, and that he's "hard work young." I remember being at once excited (in my pants) at the prospect of another long term story line between the Doctor and River, and sad that the beautiful David Tennant Doctor would not be my imaginary boyfriend anymore. He and Mike Rowe take turns. And yes, I meant that to be dirrrrrty.
Honestly, I think Tennant is a perfect combination of the infinite sadness and loneliness of the Doctor, contrasted with the joy and hope he has. That mans face can break my heart in 1 look. So can Adrian Brody's, but that is another story.
The F.N.G Doctor will have big shoes and skinny suits to fill.

Well, it's been three hours.

Snath opines: "Ugh, that SyFy shit starts today? Christ, it is so stupid."

Joe DaProgrammer more than agrees. In fact, cable TV has gone way beyond stupid. Arts and Entertainment Channel? Dog the Bounty Hunter. Bravo? No more Mozart, but you can watch "Real" housewives tackle the moral dilemma of nail polish hues.

But the last two months are the absolute worst: Every show is ruined by ads for another show, DURING THE SHOW YOU'RE WATCHING.

Enjoying a cheesy movie on Lifetime used to be a great pleasure - but you have to suspend your disbelief and relate to the characters' conflict. How can you immerse yourself in a story when the screen constantly says "Drop Dead Diva Sun July 12th 9PM"?

You know what? Fuck TV. Please help me Pajiba, for I have nowhere else to turn.

I have seen that episode at least 4 times, and River does make some comment about him not having the same face

Posted by: Lindsey at July 7, 2009 2:32 PM

When? What comment? I really don't remember that all and I've also seen the episode at least four times.

I, like you, have only started watching the newer series recently and am trying to take it slowly so as to prolong my enjoyment. I'm SO glad it's showing up here -- when I started watching, I immediately searched for news/reviews here and found virtually nothing. So thanks for starting the coverage! Anyway, a movie sounds wonderful.

Six hours.

Anne: I wasn't a fan of the River Song tangent either. But now everyone is fighting I fear I'll have to go and watch them over again to try to work out where I stand. Which means I'll have to conquer my fear of Vashta Nerada.

I think River says something like 'You're hard work young' yes, and she also says 'Judging by the face it's the early days'. Really it's fairly ambiguous, which is nice and you can take it to mean what you like. I take it to mean (or took it to mean and I'm sticking with it for now) that she's seen Ten as an older man. I think she's at least seen him as Ten before, because I don't remember her being at all surprised by his appearance. But you could also see it as she knew another incarnation of the Doctor I suppose.

it's a different Doctor that Song knew.

Well, that's....like.....your opinion, man.

Though given what's happened since Moffat wrote it they'll probably nail it down with some retconning in the future...which of course disgusts me, but there you have it.