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A Daredevil Reboot?

You Bet Your Ass / Dustin Rowles

Trade News | October 3, 2008 | Comments (32)


In almost every respect, I am rarely aware of a comic book character until there’s a movie made about him or her, so I can’t knowledgeably write about the merits of Daredevil, the character. I’ve seen the movie, and — save for its inexplicable spin-off, Elektra — I don’t recall a comic-book superhero movie as bad. I am fairly certain, however, that the reasons are twofold: Ben Affleck was laughable in that suit; and Mark Steven Johnson, a director who only avoided inclusion on the Worst Hollywood directors list by virtue of a small resume (Simon Birch, Daredevil, Ghost Rider). But he also wrote Daredevil, and brought the same intelligence, edge, and enthusiasm he brought to his Jack Frost and Grumpy Old Men scripts (in the future, Johnson will likely appear on our worst Hollywood screenwriters list — he is a cinematic booger).

Anyway, 20th Century Fox believes, without Affleck and Johnson in the equation that there’s still some value in the Daredevil franchise, so they’re planning a reboot. “Soon.” No cast, no director, no screenplay have been discussed, but Fox co-chairman Tim Roth — in an interview with IESB — says that he wants someone with like Christopher Nolan, with a genuine vision.

I honestly don’t know how great an idea this is, but I do know that Frank Miller wrote some Daredevil issues at some point, so I suspect there are some dark storylines that can mined. But that whole blindness thing has got to be a hindrance. Whenever I consider Daredevil, I’m always reminded of “Blind Justice,” the very short-lived Steven Bocho cop show. And then I laugh and laugh and laugh.


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Comments

Soooooo, what he's saying is the he wants to do Nolan's Batman.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at October 3, 2008 2:04 PM

Yeah, it is being remade - guess who's gonna play him? Me, baby! There's a new twist though - I'm blind (naturally), but Wendell grunts out what I need to keep an eye out for while I'm kicking thug ass. Y'see, I'm basically the blind muscle & he's the disabled brains - however, since he's not fully developed, I can't understand a thing he's saying without an interpreter - A CARTOON FERRET VOICED BY NONE OTHER THAT MARTIN SHORT! It's gonna be big, I guarangoddamtee it! They're still casting for the female love interest(s), so any of you ladies wanna send me a Polaroid of you (sans clothes) holding an umbrella, mail them to Dustin. He'll see that I get them. Why an umbrella? Major plot spoiler... you'll just have to wait!

Posted by: Skittimus Maximus at October 3, 2008 2:08 PM

Am I the only one who misread that lead line as "A Daredevil Robot?" and got a metal image of a whole 'nother movie?

Just me? Carry on, then.

Posted by: Anna "Knife Pile" von Beaverplatz at October 3, 2008 2:12 PM

Well, it makes perfect sense. A reboot worked so well for The Incredible Hulk, you see.

Posted by: Mella at October 3, 2008 2:14 PM

No, Knife Pile, I read it the same way and was terribly disappointed after clicking through.

Posted by: Alice at October 3, 2008 2:22 PM

Can't we wait ten or fifteen years and let some Christopher-Nolan-esque auteur do a more original project instead? Daredevil was awful.

Posted by: DarthCorleone at October 3, 2008 2:24 PM

"with a genuine vision"

Posted by: Eep at October 3, 2008 2:24 PM

I also read it as "Daredevil Robot" and thought about IronMan.

Hey Skitt, does it matter where I hold the umbrella? Should it be open or closed? I'm 50, so I think it should be open, a la Sally Rand.

Posted by: BWeaves at October 3, 2008 2:28 PM

Sigh, that was supposed to say "rimshot" after "with a genuine vision," but I guess the parser makes anything in the brackets invisible.

Posted by: Eep at October 3, 2008 2:31 PM

What is the html code for rimshot? somebody get on this, right now. Also, am I the only one getting a broken link to this? had to click into the comments to read it. Not that it was worth reading...

Posted by: the_wakeful at October 3, 2008 2:39 PM

Daredevil killing ninjas. That is the movie. Let the man kill some ninjas.

Posted by: Optimus Rhyme at October 3, 2008 2:46 PM

This isn't the worst idea ever. Hell, it's not even the worst idea for a movie posted on this site this week (Hello, Yogi), but it probably means that the best part of the terrible original movie, Michael Clark Duncan as Kingpin, won't be coming back. Of course, that may even out if the pick a lead actor who's more agile than the average national monument.

Posted by: Tracer Bullet at October 3, 2008 3:04 PM

Superhero stories work when the characters are archetypes that stand in as metaphors for larger stories and ideas. They fail when they really are nothing more than the literal interpretation of their plot. In that sense, they are no different than any other type of story

The story of the Hulk is not the story of a giant green dude, it is the story of the relationship between anger and violence and control.

The story of Batman has nothing to do with a man dressing up as a bat, it is a story of the line between chaos and order and when it is necessary to cross it.

Buffy is not about valley girls and vampires, it is a story of growing up.

Likewise, Moby Dick isn't really about a whale, Watership Down isn't really about rabbits, and Hamlet isn't really about a goth who likes to talk to an old skull.

On the other hand, from what I've seen, Daredevil is exactly what it looks like on the first level. It is simply the story of a blind guy who's good at beating up bad guys. Now there's nothing wrong with watching something just for the visual and visceral entertainment of the spectacle, but let's call that what it is: porn.

Posted by: stipe42 at October 3, 2008 3:08 PM

I love the first Grumpy Old Men. Love it. That is all.

Posted by: Julie at October 3, 2008 3:09 PM

Hey, the only thing better than profane Walter Matthau (my celebrity doppelganger) and Jack Lemmon is profane Burgess Meredith.

Posted by: Jay at October 3, 2008 3:16 PM

Watership Down isn't about rabbits? Oh, and Jonathan Livingston Seagull isn't about seagulls!

GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH! Must douche brain now. Ay-yayayaya! I can't believe I remember reading that awful book. This is why I don't follow Oprah's book recommendations. I read JLS because it was hot and everyone was reading it, and after reading it, I couldn't figure out why it was so hot. It STUNK.

Posted by: BWeaves at October 3, 2008 3:40 PM

If I were a studio head I'd just give Christopher Nolan and Jon Favreau a shit load of money and get the fuck out of the way, it's so simple. There is no fucking way that the Incredible Hulk should have turned out the way it did, the same goes for Super Man. I think Super Man needs a whole new makeover, to get rid of his homo ways of course. Daredevil, do we really need a Dardevil reboot? Just askin'

Posted by: Pookie at October 3, 2008 3:42 PM

I'd rather they take Bendis and Brubaker's runs on "Daredevil" as opposed to Miller's. I think Bendis and Brubaker have a better sense of how to really whammy a character, whereas Miller just likes to sledgehammer his way through everything he does.

Posted by: Gayle at October 3, 2008 4:08 PM

Am I the only one who misread that lead line as "A Daredevil Robot?" and got a metal image of a whole 'nother movie?

Just me? Carry on, then.

Nope, that's what I saw, too.

Posted by: Appwitch at October 3, 2008 4:56 PM

Um, I kind of think Fantastic Four was worse. But, the thought of a Daredevil reboot makes me want to vomit a little bit.

Posted by: LB at October 3, 2008 4:56 PM

Seems like after the ginormous success Dark Knight had, everyone's hard at the pants thinking of the money they'll make if they do anything in that same style. Problem is, no matter how hard anyone tries, no ONE, no FUCKING one is as good as Batman. No one will ever kick as much ass, no one will ever reach his levels of coolness. So just, stop trying, Hollywood.

Though frankly, anything that wipes away the memory of the shittastic Daredevil is a good thing. Just stop trying so hard to be Batman.

Posted by: figgy at October 3, 2008 8:00 PM

I'd rather they take Bendis and Brubaker's runs on "Daredevil" as opposed to Miller's. I think Bendis and Brubaker have a better sense of how to really whammy a character, whereas Miller just likes to sledgehammer his way through everything he does.

...weeeeell, that covers my usual geek stance. Thanks, Gayle.

Posted by: Vermillion at October 3, 2008 8:54 PM

Spoke too soon.

Superhero stories work when the characters are archetypes that stand in as metaphors for larger stories and ideas. They fail when they really are nothing more than the literal interpretation of their plot. In that sense, they are no different than any other type of story

The story of the Hulk is not the story of a giant green dude, it is the story of the relationship between anger and violence and control.

...

On the other hand, from what I've seen, Daredevil is exactly what it looks like on the first level. It is simply the story of a blind guy who's good at beating up bad guys. Now there's nothing wrong with watching something just for the visual and visceral entertainment of the spectacle, but let's call that what it is: porn.

But that isn't the fault of the comic. In fact, your examples still works:

Daredevil isn't SUPPOSED to be about a blind guy beating up people, it is about the idea of relentless self-punishment and what could scare a man that claims to have no fear. (Something Bendis and definitely Brubaker understood).

Let's go even further:

The Punisher isn't about a crazy guy killing criminals. It is about the ideas of Law and Justice, and how they don't always coincide peacefully, and (on a meta level) how little it takes your average person to discard any hangups about violence or murder if they feel the person deserved it.

Spider-Man isn't about a whiny dork getting superpowers. It is about moving into a whole new world, and how power mandates a level of responsibility to those who don't share it.

Iron Man isn't about a dude in an suit of armor. It is about an AWESOME dude in a suit of KICKASS armor, and some stuff about responsibility and not double dealing and all that crap.

There are comics that are merely "porn" as you describe it. But Daredevil isn't one of them. The movie simply sucked.

Posted by: Vermillion at October 3, 2008 9:07 PM

Forgot to add:

The real problem is that folks in control of these films JUST DON'T CARE. They may say they do, that they read the books and "totally got the feel", but it is a crock. They still consider these stories simply funnybooks, children's tales and such. But as we can plainly see from certain films, these comics have a plethora of dramatic potential. It just takes somebody who gives a damn to bring it out.

Posted by: Vermillion at October 3, 2008 9:11 PM

"Iron Man isn't about a dude in an suit of armor. It is about an AWESOME dude in a suit of KICKASS armor, and some stuff about responsibility and not double dealing and all that crap."

That's it, you magnificent bastard - you & me's makin' out behind the Dairy Queen, right mother-effing-now. Fuck yeah! Bring your diaphramamathingie...

Posted by: Skitz at October 3, 2008 11:22 PM

Discuss: Comic book movies I'd like to see rebooted, before Daredevil...

Spawn!

Posted by: Godsbane at October 4, 2008 2:15 AM

fuck it, don't put an affleck near it, make the characters resemble the fucking characters in the goddamn comic( seriously? you are telling me they couldn't get a fucking blonde guy to act blonde? and don't get me started on Jennifer Garner. how does she look remotely like elektra?) get rid of the biker leather, and put someone who wrote the comic at one point(Bendis!) Pay them, and let them produce a fucking movie! I am sooooo tired of all of these dumbass chuckleheads that change the source material sooo much, it that they shouldn't have been made in the first place! WANTED SHOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN MADE! Assasins? LOOM OF FATE!!??!?!? GIVE ME A FUCKIN BREAK! if you would have just stuck to the Graphic novel, it wouldn't have been so goddamn retarded! I understand wanting to see stories in motion, but who wants to see a gimped version!?!?!?!!?!??!?!? GODDAMIT IF THEY FUCK ANOTHER DAMN FILM UP! I AM FUCKING DONE! Batman was sweet tho.

Posted by: Smittyglasssmilth at October 4, 2008 2:37 AM

Wow, for years I was laboring under the impression that Kevin Smith directed 'Daredevil.' I have no idea where I got this idea, or how I have gone, what, 7 years? without it ever being corrected. WTF.

Anyway, I liked 'Daredevil' only because of Colin Farrell as Bullseye. I know nothing about the comics, so I don't know anything about the character, but damn is he fun to watch in that. And awfully pretty to boot, even with that target thing in his head. I'd still hit it.

Posted by: Mimi at October 5, 2008 1:04 AM

Frank Miller's Daredevil series "Born Again" would be amazing as a film. It even features Captain America and (briefly Thor and Iron Man). Intense stuff, lots of symbolism and mythology. Brilliant stuff.

But are you badmouthing Blind Justice? He was a blind cop. WIth a gun. They gave a blind guy a gun!

Posted by: Kevbo at October 5, 2008 7:43 PM

Wow, for years I was laboring under the impression that Kevin Smith directed 'Daredevil.

No, but he did a run writing the comic.

But are you badmouthing Blind Justice? He was a blind cop. WIth a gun. They gave a blind guy a gun!

David Sedaris tells me the blind can legally hunt in Michigan. But the real point, besides Eldard shamelessly looking like Affleck's Murdock (maybe that was a "maybe we can do it better", which is at least a commendable can-do spirit), is that surely Rutger Hauer has the claim to the anglophone crown of blind badass, doesn't he?

Posted by: Jay at October 5, 2008 9:04 PM

Someone probably already said this but without Daredevil there probably wouldn't have been a "Dark Knight." Frank Miller brought his 'grim and grit' style first to Daredevil which led to DC Editors wanting him to do the same for Batman. This led to 'The Dark Knight Returns' which was the inspiration for the new movies, supposedly.

Posted by: mark at October 6, 2008 9:30 AM

is that surely Rutger Hauer has the claim to the anglophone crown of blind badass, doesn't he?

In my world, he does.

Posted by: Vermillion at October 6, 2008 10:21 AM