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There Will Be No Machete Sequels Because No One Will See the First Machete

By Dustin Rowles | Posted Under Trade News | Comments (48)



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What is the obsession with teasing sequels before a movie is even released? Do filmmakers believe, if they announce that a sequel is in the works, that some dumbass will be more inclined to go see the first one because they want to stay ahead of the curve? Is this some sort of new marketing psychology: If you call it a franchise, then it’ll make franchise money at the box office? It’s moronic. It’s like the goddamn Pittsburgh Pirates making plans for the 2012 World Series when they can’t win more than 70 goddamn games in 2011.

Stop it. Or we’re going to refuse to see the original to bloody well ensure that there’s no sequel.

Apparently, Machete teases two sequels, Machete Kills and Machete Kills Again in the end credits, and Robert Rodriguez has confirmed that they’re in the works. Let me just say this, lest anyone get their Scott Pilgrim expectations up: I don’t care how good this movie is, or how much you might be looking forward to it. It’s not going to make any money. It’s going to open on Labor Day weekend, it’s going to make about $7 to $8 million in its first weekend, there will be a few Lindsay Lohan box-office poison cracks in the box-office round-ups following its opening weekend, and then no one is going to talk about it again.

All due respect to Danny Trejo, who anyone that loves movies probably admires the hell out of, but he’s a character actor. He’s that guy, a face you recognize from a show or a movie you don’t remember (except for “Breaking Bad”). Robert DeNiro and Jessica Alba couldn’t open a can of beans between them these days, much less a movie based on a trailer attached to a movie that nobody saw. And the rest of the C-listers in the cast appeal to hardcore movie fanatics and film bloggers (most of the latter of whom will see it for free). How many hardcore film fanatics actually exist in America? Go to the grocery story. Stand in the check-out line, and ask yourself this: Will the lady in front of you writing a goddamn check for generic cigarettes and Breyers ice cream go see Machete?

Of course not.

Machete has no real target audience. There are lots of dudes and plenty of women who will watch the trailer, pump their fists, and do their little *hells bells* chant for about three minutes before completely forgetting about it. Will they go see it on opening weekend? Of course not. It’s the same people who didn’t show up for Grindhouse, which was an even easier sell. I loved Planet Terror as much as the next guy. But it’s not like there’s a lot of loyalty to Rodriguez. Take out his kid’s movies, and Sin City (which he only half-ish directed), and his biggest movie was Once Upon a Time in Mexico, which made $53 million, in large part because of Johnny Depp. When it comes down to it, very few people are going to pay to see Danny Trejo in a one-trick movie that was initially meant to go straight to DVD.

So, what I’m saying is: Shut the fuck up about your Machete sequels, Rodriguez. No one’s buying it. Go back to collecting projects that you’ll never make in between installments of your Spy Kids franchise, and maybe think about using your considerable talent toward something other than a novelty project.

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Comments

Or we’re going to refuse to see the original to bloody well ensure that there’s no sequel.

Dude, I been doin' that for nigh on five years, now, and I'm tellin' ya, it don't work.
They's still crankin' out crap.

Posted by: Rykker at August 19, 2010 11:06 AM

My favorite sequel tease was in Rocknrolla. Only because I hated it and thought it was funny that a second one would surely never happen.

Posted by: Zeke the Plumber at August 19, 2010 11:10 AM

The exact same thing could be said for Scott Pilgrim, you know. And people wonder why that movie didn't make more money? Come on.

Posted by: figgy at August 19, 2010 11:16 AM

Sorry Zeke, the correct answer for "favorite sequel tease" is "Mac & Me." They'll be back!

Posted by: Drew Morton at August 19, 2010 11:17 AM

Unfortunately, Rodriguez proves a lot of the Hollywood execs correct. He makes fanboy films directly for fanboys...and the majority of them completely bomb, because only three or four fanboys turn out to see them. I guess one or two people thought the idea of making Machete into an actual film was amusing, but...is that really a reason to make an entire film? Because a few people thought it sounded like a larf? Anyway, I won't go within a thousand feet of this thing, as it looks like a two hour scuzzfest and I still haven't gotten out of the shower after seeing Planet Terror...two years ago.

Posted by: Case at August 19, 2010 11:19 AM

Machete has no real target audience.-Rowles

Sure it does. Perverts, dumbfockers, and Wrestling fans.

Will the lady in front of you writing a goddamn check for generic cigarettes and Breyers ice cream go see Machete?-Rowles

"No way man!... She would pound on the gas, turn the wheel, take aim, and take that sucker out!"-Borrowing EMPIRE RECORDS Quotes (Take THAT, Rowles!!!!)

How many hardcore film fanatics actually exist in America?-Rowles

There's more of us than there are of you. ='D

Posted by: Kahntahmp at August 19, 2010 11:19 AM

I'm still bitter about how these teased Super Mario Bros. 2 way back in the day and never delivered.

Posted by: JP at August 19, 2010 11:22 AM

I thought the gold standard for sequel teases was Buckaroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension.

Posted by: Optimus Rhyme at August 19, 2010 11:27 AM

THANK you.

Posted by: Paul Southworth at August 19, 2010 11:27 AM

Banzai? And I guess I really meant the tease for "Buckaroo Banzai Against the World Crime League".

Posted by: Optimus Rhyme at August 19, 2010 11:30 AM

No sequel tease is more devastating than the tease for Buckaroo Banzai Against the World Crime League

To this day, I wish it had happened.

Posted by: TK at August 19, 2010 11:30 AM

Optimus: That was just eerie.

Posted by: TK at August 19, 2010 11:40 AM

I know I ain't paying for no fucking movie with fucking Lohan in it. I don't care who made it.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at August 19, 2010 11:41 AM

Awww Optimus and TK sitting in a tree K. I. S. S. I. N. G. hahahahahahaha get a room funboys.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at August 19, 2010 11:44 AM

So I guess that makes Danny Trejo a Mexicant?

Posted by: sansho1 at August 19, 2010 11:48 AM

I still remember being completely disappointed in "Young Sherlock Holmes." I'm the person who sits through the credits, in case there's something interesting snuck in there. At the end, the guy playing Moriarty, who supposedly might have died in the movie, winks at the camera. Yeah right. You ain't getting a second chance.

Then again, there was the original Caddyshack, whos catchphrase was "Better than Caddyshack II." Damn, they were right.

Posted by: BWeaves at August 19, 2010 11:49 AM

hahahahahahaha get a room funboys.

Heeee. I love BSlim.

Posted by: Anna von Beav at August 19, 2010 11:58 AM

So a movie should only be made if it'll sell lots of tickets? Who cares if nobody saw Grindhouse, or if Once Upon A Time In Mexico only made money because of the star? Isn't it good that people can make movies that appeal to only the geek set? I get it if you wanna dump on Robert Rodriguez, but that whole "fuck that movie, nobody will see it" angle is small, like AICN talkback small. Film bloggers, cripes!

Posted by: the new transported man at August 19, 2010 12:13 PM

Which reminds me - where the fuck is History of the World Part 2? I need Hitler on Ice like right now.

Posted by: Courtney at August 19, 2010 12:13 PM

Here's the thing: microbudget niche pictures with known actors on board can yield sequels even if the box office isn't so hot (ie: Hatchet). If they make back the minuscule budget (they will), they can make sequels. Simple as that.

Grindhouse actually cost money; Machete did not. I knew not to hold my breath for a Grindhouse 2 featuring Don't and Thanksgiving because there was no way the first film would ever recoup its budget in theaters. There was too much negative press caused by the disparate tone and style in the two features billed under Grindhouse and anyone who wasn't the target audience didn't get it enough to buy a ticket. Machete will have legs in a small(ish) run.

Posted by: Robert at August 19, 2010 12:23 PM

Rodriguez is actually a very profitable filmmaker because he works fast and cheap. He does all the effects and editing in-house and works as his own DP. I think he's a lazy sonofabitch who often gives a half-assed effort, but he's cagey and a prodigiously gifted movie-maker.

Posted by: alone in the dark at August 19, 2010 12:25 PM

I think the Grindhouse comparison is going to be pretty accurate, and the supermarket checkout thought experiment is depressingly true. The audience does not exist in sufficient numbers to make this a blockbuster no matter how good it is and the proposed squeals will take their place on the shelf with dozens of other RR projects in development hell.


I want to see it opening week, just like Grindhouse, and revel in the pure un-ironic excess and love of exploitation film. I don't care if they aren't breaking new ground or growing as artists, I love that every couple years we get a movie like Dusk Till Dawn, the Devils Rejects, Four Brothers, Grindhouse, or Machete- a guilty pleasure to indulge in where you can still respect yourself in the morning.

I'm sure everyone involved- especially Rodriguez- knows that sequels are a pipe dream at this point. I don't think teasing the sequels in the end credits is done to prime audience demand for a franchise. The whole point of including the sequels is for what it adds to the experience of watching this movie- an extra layer of depth to the illusion that we live in a world where films like this can exist exist and are cheap and plentiful, the illusion that you are not sitting in a sterile multiplex selling $7 popcorn and $5 soft drinks surrounded on all sides by brainless comedies and 3D family films, looking at a screen that will featuring a Michael Bay action/explosion movie just as soon as the two week theatrical run of this film is up.

This is about building atmosphere, having fun, and creating an experience for the audience. I think it is a great idea. Don't be such a cynic; Machete isn't for the cynical.

Posted by: Yossarian at August 19, 2010 12:51 PM

There was more than one Walking Tall with Joe Don Baker. Why can't there be more than one Machete?

Posted by: RobP at August 19, 2010 1:02 PM

where the fuck is History of the World Part 2?

I'm Sayin'!!!

What the HELL? I been waitin' for that one since I was 13.

Posted by: Rykker at August 19, 2010 1:40 PM

What Yossarian said. Seriously, I wanted to start a slow clap after that post.

Posted by: Dill The Devil at August 19, 2010 2:11 PM

I'm just glad they didn't make Eli Roth's "Thanksgiving"

Posted by: JrFanBoy at August 19, 2010 2:13 PM

What Yossarian said. Seriously, I wanted to start a slow clap after that post.

Shit, I'll do it. That is exactly what I was thinking.

/slow clap begin

Posted by: Vermillion at August 19, 2010 2:26 PM

Optimus/TK,

I lurve youse guys. And you're right..."Against The World Crime League" is the best sequel that never happened.

FWIW, I'll be the guy at Dragon*Con this year with both a power ring AND a "Team Banzai" headband, crying bitter tears for Blue Blaze Irregulars everywhere. Le sigh...

Posted by: Green Lantern at August 19, 2010 2:52 PM

Awww Optimus and TK sitting in a tree K. I. S. S. I. N. G. hahahahahahaha get a room funboys.

Barbado - Holy Lion of Zion, d'you have to cap on EVERYTHING good? And FWIW, they're in MY room playing Zork (the original buggy version). You're not allowed.

Posted by: Green Lantern at August 19, 2010 3:04 PM

Rowles you surprise me, if history has taught us anything is that you should never underestimate the movie going public.

Posted by: Pookie at August 19, 2010 3:10 PM

If they really want to bring in an audience, they should exploit the hell out of the immigration debate in the advertising, as they did on that internet trailer that got pulled. That will get the movie some attention.

Posted by: DarthCorleone at August 19, 2010 4:32 PM

I wish it would go straight to DVD. I want to see it, but I want to be heavily intoxicated when I do.

Posted by: Craig at August 19, 2010 5:22 PM

Sooooo...Machete lives then?

Thanks for the spoiler warning. Dick.

Posted by: superasente at August 19, 2010 8:09 PM

Still waiting for "Remo Williams: The Adventure Continues."

And I hope there's a midnight opening for "Machete," cause I'll be first in line for that motherfucker.

*Crosses fingers, hopes there's a line*

Posted by: , at August 20, 2010 1:26 AM

There are simply too many people who think Independence Day was the best movie evar made for there to be any "fair" out there. Mknite shamwowalingus is still getting cash, right?

Posted by: Protoguy at August 20, 2010 2:08 AM

Still waiting for "Remo Williams: The Adventure Continues."

Posted by: , at August 20, 2010 1:26 AM

Dude, get out of my brain!

Posted by: Uriah Creep at August 20, 2010 6:22 AM

/joins the slow clap

Posted by: Uda at August 20, 2010 6:28 AM

I can't wait for machete.

I mean ever since I saw the 'fake' trailer in planet terror (which was such a kick ass movie 2 btw). I was lookin forward to the day the 'fake' movie became real.

It's gotta mean something that so many fans were so stoked by the fake movie trailer it was turned into a real movie.

I don't know if there will be sequels nor do I care. But I'll definently be seeing this in theatres.

Posted by: MergedLoki at August 21, 2010 2:12 AM

I think the only way this movie might do well is if women completely skip the cinema on the weekend of Sept. 3rd. Old women would drag their husbands to see Clooney's old ass and young women would drag their BFs to another movie where Drew Barrymore plays THE EXACT SAME CHARACTER she does in every movie. (Going the Distance) If guys just went to the theater and picked something, it might be Machete. Also, depends how much they push the trailer next week. I just want Danny Trejo to feel the sweet sweet pleasure of OPENING a movie.

Posted by: Rob at August 27, 2010 1:54 AM

This is going to be a good movie i dont care what people say. Movies are made for everyone to watch some like the movies others dont its just on what you like to watch. like me i dont like Lord of the ring watch the very first one and never watch the other ones or harry pottern movies. but for sure ill watch Machete.

Posted by: Tovar at September 3, 2010 2:55 PM

You're an asshole. Seriously dude. You're making all of these assumptions. I'm in fucking high school and I know you shouldn't be making assumptions and speaking for other people when you're writing. I am a movie fanatic. There is clearly a target audience in Latinos and anyone who cares about the border issues (and of course anyone who loves over-the-top violence and Steven Seagal). The plot of the film revolves around the war at the Mexican-American borders. How is Rodriguez trying to make more money on opening weekend by telling people in the credits who already the movie that there will be a sequel? And I of course went out opening weekend. You sire are an asshole.
Good day.

Posted by: Crang Joe at September 4, 2010 3:19 AM

Wow, you obviously don't know much about movies do you? I saw Machete last night and the theater was packed. This movie has a lot going for it. It covers so many different things in one movie. The border issues, the comedy, the over the top action, the sex scenes. When I was walking out of the theater everyone was talking about the film and sharing ideas on the border issue. It is a movie that isn't afraid to through a huge conversational topic at people and still express it's opinion through the movie. O and by the way, Rodriguez has already announced in an interview with Access Hollywood that there will be a "Machete Kills" and "Machete Kills Again". In short, go fuck yourself dude.

Posted by: Matt Smith at September 4, 2010 4:26 PM

sounds like a film neophyte who knows nothing of the pulling power of Rodriguez and fans of exploitation they saw how Grindhouse did and expected the worse example of box office numbers without considering that Grindhouse simply failed because of the double feature aspect of it and not the content. Watch it be number 1 at the box office over The American

Posted by: Ha at September 4, 2010 11:15 PM

The guy who wrote this is a fucktard, the movie in the first weekend has made 14 millions. I would never trust in a guy who puts a head line like this. It's a f@cking lyer!!!.

Posted by: Ed at September 20, 2010 1:10 AM

/slow clap builds
I just finished this movie and it is already one of my favorites of the year. Great action + sexy women + plenty of ridiculousness = good. Heck, even Lohan didn't kill it because her role was so hilarious. And props to Danny Trejo for his first starring role of the 200+ movies he's collaborated in.

Posted by: 00ubermensch at September 28, 2010 9:13 PM

i love how totally wrong you were on this! i sincerely hope (for this websites sake) that you get fired

Posted by: faustino at October 26, 2010 4:20 PM

some people like being frightened some like gore..I love gore infact...look at braindead awful but pleasing...What Im trying to say is that your essay sounded well bias like your were not the target audience yourself..
If 2 & 3 came out I'd buy it & watch them back to back on dvd like some people do Harry Potter or Matrix..It's all about personal taste, my wife loves gorey films but hates jumpy ghost films not because she wants to be a serial killer but it's proven that watching someone suffer (in movies) you feel better/safer in yourself, as the saying goes "& I thought I had a bad day".
That's why women watch soap ops, I like gore/action/horror cuz I'm an 80's kid, rambo kick started it all

Posted by: REB at November 16, 2010 9:01 PM

i dont know what you guys are talking about i saw machete for the first time this weekend and thought it was one of the best movies ever made and i usually don't care for these kinds of movies i'm not an action movie kinda guy i like comedies, however this movie i found to be packed with action and it also made me laugh the entire time, it actually reminded me of the "friday the 13th" movies because of how badass the kills were in this film and i like friday the 13 series cuz i think they are funny as well as badass. plus this movie is awesome cuz jessica alba and michelle rodriguez are two of the hottest girls on earth!

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