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The Flash! Avengers! Green Lantern! Superman! I'm Gonna Throw Up!

By TK | Posted Under Trade News | Comments (21)



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Since Hollywood has effectively decided to make every comic book ever into a movie, there’s a mess of comic book movie news floating around these days, so let’s stop fucking around and just compile it all into one big KAPOW! of a post, shall we?

Green-Lantern-Game.jpg1) Greg Berlanti, who wrote the script for the upcoming Green Lantern (starring Ryan Reynolds, directed by Martin Campbell, due out in 2011), had some intriguing, yet bullshitty things to say about it to the LA Times:

“The character itself was “Top Gun” before Maverick. He was a guy who had to learn how to care. He shut down early in his life because of something that happened to him, and suddenly he doesn’t just have to care about himself, he doesn’t just have to care about the planet, he has to care about the entire universe. It was writ so large. The other side of it was that he was always the comic-book version of Luke Skywalker, imagining that you’re picked for this group of heroes that’s there to defend the entire universe. It always had this great kind of wondrous scope to it, and as a kid who ran around in his Superman Underoos, it was a chance to do a superhero movie that went off planet.”

Yup. Two ways of looking at it. It’s either gonna be (forgive the lame critic-speak) gay-midget-meets-whiny-bitch-with-daddy-issues, or badass-fighter-pilot-meets-Jedi-Knight. Let’s hope for the latter, shall we?

Flash207.jpg2) As for The Flash, which he is also writing?

“I think it’s tonally somewhere in between [‘Green Lantern’] and ‘Dark Knight.’ You’re dealing with somebody who is already a crimefighter in a world of those kinds of criminals and that kind of murder and homicide. I find you talk a lot about different films when you’re working on a film, and we spend a lot more time talking about ‘Se7en’ or ‘The Silence of the Lambs’ as we construct that part of Barry’s world, then I thought when we got into it. It helps balance a guy in a red suit who runs really fast.”

OK, stop referencing other movies, first of all. Secondly, Se7en? Maybe I need to re-read some of my old JLA comics, but, that doesn’t sound quite right. Look, I loved The Dark Knight more than any other comic book movie, but we don’t need to use its tone as the model for all future comic book movies. It worked there because that’s who Batman is. Sigh. You are officially on fucking notice, Mr. Berlanti.

ugo-kac-ultimates.jpg3) Meanwhile, over in the Marvel camp, writer/director of The Avengers, Joss Whedon, is apparently wrestling with how to pull the big hot mess together. The Avengers is a film that I’m simultaneously crazily excited for, and flat-out fucking terrified of. It’s got so many big names in it, and such insane expectations, that anything less than a rousing success is going to be perceived as a colossal failure. I love Whedon, but the task he’s been given is scary as hell… take some of the most revered heroes in comic book history, compile four actors from four different films (Iron Man, Thor, Captain America, The Incredible Hulk), some of which haven’t even been released yet, and somehow make a coherent story that both deals with the formation of the team, AND gives you a kickass adventure. Oof.

That said, as always, Whedon is saying the right things:

“I’m feeling that everything that I have done before has prepared me for this, besides the fact that I’ve been reading The Avengers since I was 11. There are definitely stipulations and restrictions, but Kevin Feige is very active as a producer and worked with me a lot on the story, but they are absolutely honouring the fact that this is my film… But if you look at who they already had, and who they allowed me to add to the cast, they are thinking about the integrity of the characters. Obviously we have to get from point A to point B, and fans really want to see this - and ideas for set-pieces which I said are great. Now I’m going to make them matter and they are completely on board with the idea.”
“I’m still [outlining the script] because it’s finding out how to introduce people to all of these people in this world. ‘By the way, there’s a thunder god. You guys are cool, right? This guy is big and green and this character wears an American flag. It’s all good, right? It’s totally real world.’ Finding the tone and plots that are coherent is what I go to bed thinking about and wake up thinking about, but it’s doable.”
“What I will struggle with, in the outline and throughout, is that I would like to put these actors in a room and just make Glengarry Glen Ross. We’re talking about really exciting people and at the same time I have to keep the momentum of the thing going. I can’t let it turn into a lull fest… They don’t hire Mark Ruffalo [the new Hulk] to say one iconic line and strike a pose. They hire him because he has so much humanity in him. He’s the antithesis of the iconic actor. He’s so human. He was my first choice to play the part, and the fact he is playing the part is nuts! They went to great lengths to make that happen and they understood exactly why he was right for the part.”

You can read the full interview at SFX.

superman1123.jpg4) Finally, Superman, otherwise known as the unmakeable superhero film. Superman seems like it should be the easiest of characters to adapt, but in fact it’s turning out to be brutally hard. And the rumors about the production are insane — Brandon Routh is coming back! No he’s not! It’s going to feature Brainiac! No, Mister Mxyzptlk! Christopher Reeves is going to be reanimated to play Bizarro! Fucked if I know.

Anyway, the newest news is that Darren Aronofsky (Requiem For A Dream, Black Swan) is in the running to direct the new film (along with Tony Scott, Jonathan Liebesman, Duncan Jones, Matt Reeves and Zack Snyder), which may or may not be called The Man Of Steel (which is an awesome title that they should absolutely use). It’s already got a fair number of heavyweights at the wheel — David Goyer is writing, Christopher Nolan is… um… supervising? Monitoring? Watching from afar like Uatu? ( I know, I know, I’m mixing publishers. Fuck off) Whatever. I have no idea whether or not this is worth the bytes it takes up, but fuck it, there you have it.

So there you go. Crazy-ass shit going on in comic book movie land. Enough to make the comic book geek jump for joy.

Or vomit blood.

We’ll see.

(sources: The Playlist, Slashfilm, Hero Complex)









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Comments

JON HAMM. SUPERMAN.

JON HAAAAAMMMMMMMMMMM

Posted by: Paul Southworth at September 28, 2010 9:12 AM

Joss knocked Astonishing X-Men out of the park on his run, so I'm excited for that. Even if it sucks, nobody else was gonna do it better.

Isn't the Flash a happy-go-lucky guy? First with the clever pun, always optimistic?

Ceiling Christopher Nolan is watching you.

Posted by: twig at September 28, 2010 9:13 AM

i spent childhood obsessed with comics, and have really enjoyed some of the comic book movies, but i am feeling some real fatigue about superhero movies. you have to wonder about the bulk of ticket buyers who maybe aren't total geeks, where they are at with these things continuously flying off the assembly line.

Posted by: idleprimate at September 28, 2010 9:15 AM

Ooooh, dark and gritty Flash! Yeah, the Scarlet Speedster (worst. nickname. ever.) is about as dark and gritty as David Cassidy. Somehow the power to run fast is considered grrreat while the power to swim fast is just laughed at. WELL 3/4 OF THE EARTH IS COVERED IN WATER DIRT LOVERS!! Damn it, if there isn't an Aquaman movie with a beefy part for me soon, it'll be back to working for that Japanese whaling fleet. Boo hoo Moby Dick, a heros gotta buy tights and shit.

Posted by: Aqualad at September 28, 2010 9:40 AM

Idleprimate,I was never a comic book geek. I think that I may have read two or three superhero comics my whole life but I do enjoy the movies. A lot. When they're not a steaming pile of Hollywood detritus.

Posted by: admin at September 28, 2010 9:50 AM

HeyAqualad?

Whydon'tyougobacktosuckingAquaman'scockyouasshole. You'renevergonnabebetterthansecondrateyoulittleshit.

Posted by: The Flash at September 28, 2010 9:55 AM

[MENTAL INPUT/OUTPUT ERROR]
[COMPENSATING WITH TYPICAL NON-PAJIBAN THOUGHT MODE]

Hey, let's have Joaquin Pheonix play The Flash since he's such a funny guy, we'll get Justin Beiber as Robin in the next Batman Flick, and David Beckham as Superman!!!! It'll be swell!!!! Just think of how AWESOME the JLA Movie will be!!!!
[SANITY RESTORATION COMPLETE]
I will CASTRATE AND BURN the Hollowweird executive that makes me hate another comic book movie.

I'm going to go ruin my life on Sunny D and Rum.

Posted by: Kahntahmp at September 28, 2010 9:59 AM

Captain America: Who said 'fuck the machine'?
Iron Man: Fuck the machine? Fuck the machine? FUCK THE MACHINE! What is this, courtesy class?

Posted by: Sinestro at September 28, 2010 10:15 AM

I'm sorry Flash, I couldn't understand your little ADD diatribe there. Come on, you're the comics poster child for premature ejaculation. We all know your "superpower" is meth and 5 hour energy drinks. Even with as fast as you are, your stench is always there a good minute before you. Let's just hope the movie isn't in smell-o-vision you jittery freak.

Posted by: Aqualad at September 28, 2010 10:21 AM

Does a guy who spends his days damp and covered in seaweed really want to bring up body odor? You smell like Yeast Infection Friday at a women' prison during a heatwave.

Posted by: Black Lightning at September 28, 2010 10:35 AM

Enough to make the comic book geek jump for joy.
Or vomit blood.

Can't we do both? (I should probably stop chasing my joy Absinthe.)

Posted by: PaulterA at September 28, 2010 10:43 AM

*WITH* Absinthe. Fuck.

Posted by: PaulterA at September 28, 2010 10:44 AM

It sounds like the only Flash-based story Greg Berlanti has ever been exposed to was the 90s TV series. Yeah, yeah, that featured a very Burtonian setting and basically the same theme song from the Batman movies/animated series of the time (which made the show closer in tone to the Swamp Thing movies than anything else)... But that wasn't "The Flash" either. Seriously, outside of some of the big crossovers, Flash comics tend to be bright, colorful affairs. If anything, Green Lantern should have a vibe closer to The Dark Knight, but set in space instead of Gotham. The Flash should be more akin to Iron Man or Spider-Man 2.

Right?

Posted by: RobP at September 28, 2010 10:57 AM

Incidently, does TK now have an unbearable, hetero man crush on Reynolds? I can't help but notice the header picture. Perhaps it extends to all Canadians.

Posted by: admin at September 28, 2010 11:10 AM

@Kahntahmp,

I see what you did there with your sunnyD and rum.

*shudders* with PTSD

Posted by: idleprimate at September 28, 2010 11:25 AM

RobP, SSHHHHH! Don't mention Swamp Thing. If they hear you, they'll re-make that too. My childhood can't take another destroyed memory. Won't someone please think of the childhoods!?!

Posted by: PaulterA at September 28, 2010 11:30 AM

I'm pretty sure Wonder Woman is the unmakeable superhero movie, not Superman. Superman's all over the place because they're trying to reboot a series that just had a movie a few years ago. Wonder Woman is flat-out impossible, due to the inherent silliness of her costume (however iconic it is) and the difficulty in casting a lead that won't be a pale shadow of Lynda Carter.

Posted by: Todd at September 28, 2010 12:10 PM

I have no clue as to why, but I love Superman. I'm not a comic book guy, so I haven't learned of every story arc that kills him and brings him back and kills him again, so there's no overexposure. But I can still watch the Superman Returns trailer (the one with Marlon Brando voice-over "their capacity for good.."), and get chills. The movie didn't live up to that, but Superman above all other heroes could go epic, and I love the epic. So maybe someday I'll get the complete movie I want....

Posted by: e at September 28, 2010 1:19 PM

I just can't get over the recast of Bruce Banner/ The Hulk. I pretty much think that is the one thing that will stop me from seeing The Avengers, unless my little brother asks me to go with him. I enjoy introducing him to the comic book characters I grew up with. We have a 15 year age difference and it works really well in the bonding process.

I just want them to finally get Wonder Woman going. Please.

Posted by: Candy at September 28, 2010 2:25 PM

Greg Berlanti is writing 2 of these movies? If and when you told us that, I must have zoned out, because I would have directed comic book fans to IMDB to check out his "credits". We may be in a heap 'o trouble here, folks.

Posted by: Uriah Creep at September 28, 2010 11:10 PM

I see the JLA film as the first time a truly massive audience will be exposed to Joss Whedon's writing. He tends to have jarring events and unfilmlike awareness and psychology. . . in a good way. I think they will fucking love it. He will surely take people on a ride.

I also think that Ryan Reynolds will be a really good Green Lantern. Who else could have played it?

Posted by: adam at September 29, 2010 12:43 AM