'Batman vs. Man of Steel's' New Wonder Woman, Gal Gadot, Shows Off Her, Uh, Amazonian Biceps

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'Batman vs. Man of Steel's' New Wonder Woman, Gal Gadot, Shows Off Her, Uh, Amazonian Biceps

By Dustin Rowles | Trade News | February 18, 2014 | Comments ()

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Look, no disrespect to Ms. Gadot, who posted the above image on her Facebook page, but maybe look into some protein shakes? I mean, I’m perfectly willing to give her the benefit of the doubt. She could fit in perfectly to Zack Snyder’s world, like, er, Blondie, and Sweet Pea, and Babydoll fit so well into Snyder’s Sucker Punch. And look. Maybe I’m wrong. Gadot has developed some nice definition on those biceps, so she’ll obviously be perfect as the wiry, sinewy Wonder Woman we all think of when we think Amazonian Warrior Princess.

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  • jvo

    cue my 8th meltdown about this casting........

  • Robert Sanchez III

    Yeah she looks toned I guess but I still think of a bad ass Brick House kinda chick when I think of Wonder Woman. Im trying to be optimistic about this movie's unique casting.

  • CM Towns

    I am getting so annoyed reading these comments about Gadots figure being too skinny because it just means the people don't actually know Wonder Woman comics. I do. And most artist have drawn her lean and fit. In fact Gadot is about the same size as the character currently looks in her comic. Or close to Jose Luis Garcia Lopez's variation. A version that appears on all kinds of merchandising over the decades.

  • Jae

    Mainstream superhero comics artsts do all kinds of weird, stupid, offensive shit when it comes to drawing women though, so most of those guys are... not a perfect point of reference.

  • CM Towns

    My point was that people are complaining she's too thin and a lot of artists draw her thin. On several sites I've seen people post Alex Ross version as the true WW even though she had been around 50 years before he painted his version of her. WW went through many iterations before that. A lot of which showed her as fit, not with the physique of a body builder.

    As to your point, mainstream comics do have artists who do terrible shit but there are also a lot of artists doing incredibly good things. There are many WW artists who are a good source of reference. I mentioned Chiang and Lopez. One whose artwork is used on mugs, shirts that are sold to women, clock and all kinds of merchandise. The other whose artwork on the current book was and is praised by most comic critics-women and men. But there are also artists like George Perez who did a famous run or Don Heck or Drew Johnson or Aaron Lopresti. Yeah, Dianas had bad artists but she's also had a lot of good artists. So I would there lots of good artists to use as reference for Diana. Hell, theres a number of great references for any female superhero in mainstream comics.

  • Jae

    I'm not really a fan of Chiang. Guy's good, but the taste of stale pop-art is way too strong in this one for me. I mean, it's like looking at a catalog of subsequent (high-class, very good) commercial illustrations, too iconified to have any dynamis whatsoever. Plus, returning to the topic, he is not a big believer in different body types for women.
    As for Lopez... I think I have a sleeveles top with his Wonder Woman. And every time I put it on and look in the mirror, I think about how effed up is that I (in no way ripped) have arms with more definition than a superhero on my chest does. How often can a guy say that?
    Drew Jonson's cool, but Perez Heck and Lopestri, as good as they are, are all single-body-type-for-women guys. Which is, by the way a thing with many of even the best comics artists and is what makes them a questionable pont of reference: when they draw Wonder woman a certain way it's all to often because the draw all the women this way, and she is 'same, but taller' (if that). Which in a very disturbing way ties to the idea that there is only one way a woman can be beautiful.

  • Green_Eggs_and_Hamster

    She can just borrow the Adam Suit from George Michael. Minus the frontpiece of course.

  • PoV Hector

    She doesn't need muscles. A bit more mass, which she seems to be trying to gain.

  • I gotta say, it looks more like a WIP shot that a definitive "this is good enough, haters" kind of image. And really, Wonder Woman (and female superheroes in general) is a case of "eye of the beholder": It would be damn near impossible for someone to look like, say, Adam Hughes' artwork of her (no, not even Carano).

    In fact, of all the women who have played Wonder Woman (and I am including the fan films that people seem to like), none of them were absolute brickhouses. Even Lynda Carter (who I hate saying anything but the highest of praises for) was pretty slight in the arms, but filled the rest of the role (and the costume) pretty well.

    I am more concerned about her performance and the script than her appearance. THAT is gonna be what makes or breaks any future WW films. Let's not forget, of all the problems with that atrocious 2009 pilot, the lead's physical resemblance to the character was waaaay at the bottom of the list.

  • Jae

    I'm going to be blasphemous here, y'all.

    See, I'm not American. My first introduction to Wonder Woman was through Bruce Timm's Justice League and later the comics.
    When I learned that there was a TV series I looked it up, and, well... I wonderd what are all those people raving about Lynda Carter being a perfect incarnation of WW are smoking. I mean, face-wise I can kinda sorta see it, but otherwise... she's so slight!

  • Sassy Pikachu

    When I think of the wonderful Lynda Carter I also remembers the episode from Bones where Emily dressed up as Wonder Woman. I liked it.

  • I did too. Oh BOY, I did too.

  • Tereasa

    She's probably just showing off her progress. As a women who is working at toning up her body, I can say it is damn hard to fight nature. Kudos to her.

  • Sassy Pikachu

    Yeah, there're still quite a bit time till they roll the camera, and I'm sure she'll do just fine. I'm giving her the benefit of the doubt. As for the movie on a whole... I'm still not sure about that one yet.

  • Maddy

    This looks pretty good to me - she seems like someone who has a slender frame, so there is a limit to how much she can 'bulk' up. I'd rather she look like this then go full on with the protein shakes and look ridiculous. I mean, I don't know that much about Wonder Woman and I haven't read the comics, but expecting someone to look like a comic book character seems kind of unrealistic to me. I mean, if she has superhero powers, does she have to look that buff?

    I realise I am probably revealing my shocking lack of knowledge about this character, but people criticising this woman's body makes me uncomfortable.

  • Joe Grunenwald

    I'm glad I'm not the only one who was made uncomfortable by this post. I'm not really sure what Dustin's going for here. It almost feels like a parody of the posts people were making after Gadot was cast, but I don't know.

    In the comics Wonder Woman's not hugely buff, but she's not slender, either. This is always what I think of when I think of Wonder Woman.

    She certainly has large...tracts of land.

  • foolsage

    I can't recall the specific reference, but years back there was a Teen Titans bit where (as I recall) Robin was warning one of the newer members about how to deal with Wonder Woman. "Don't stare at the eagle" was how I recall the warning being phrased, along with, "you'll know what I mean."


  • If big biceps was the only requirement, we'd have to go with former WWE wrestler Chyna.

    Obviously comic books exaggerate physical appearances, but if Wonder Woman is a superpowered metahuman, she doesn't need to be an uber-muscular figure. Same way Superman doesn't need to look like Ser Gregor Clegane to punch through walls.

  • Al Borland's Beard

    Can't get Chyna. She already has a six movie deal as She-Hulk in the Marvel porn universe.

  • Al Borland's Beard

    Maybe they can CGI it all in like they did for Chris Evans as Captain America, and strangely every other public appearance he's made since then.

  • Uriah_Creep

    Yeah, those animators really work fast!

  • Brian Garvan

    Forgive me if this is a stupid question, but how is this any different to that Ellen Page sweatpants-shaming thing from the other day? I know it isn't necessarily wrapped up in the same gender/sexuality context, but isn't this just pointing at a persons body and deeming it "not good enough?"

  • Muhnah_Muhnah

    I don't really see it as the same thing. It's like if Jonah Hill were cast as Superman...people would definitely complain. Or Tom Cruise as Jack Reacher. It's not about "your body is not good enough", it's just "your body isn't right for this role". No one can possibly argue that Gal Gadot's body is "not good enough" (except crazy people), but does she look believable as an Amazonian Warrior Princess? Well, that's for you to decide. Which is what Dustin is addressing here. And you know what? We might all be pleasantly surprised. Oh who am I kidding, it's Zack Snyder.

    I realise the argument can also be used for black actors playing "white" characters, but really...I think we can all be grown up enough to differentiate between hissy fits based on bigotry and hissy fits based on preferences in bicep size. Y'know...green apples and red apples.

    Or we can all just get offended by everything until all communication stops and we forget how to speak and start using grunts and growls like God intended when he created us 6000 years ago. I don't know.

  • foolsage

    You raise good points, but I'm going to play Devil's Advocate. Wonder Woman is a magical being; her power comes from the Greek Gods. Her physical strength is unrelated to her physique, in the comics. So why does it matter how big her biceps are?

    Don't get me wrong... I agree that to some extent we define these roles physically; as fans we have expectations based on comparisons between superheroes and peak human athletes. Logically though, we really shouldn't compare the two. Peak human athletes like Batman should be VERY defined, because they're not using superpowers to "cheat". Wonder Woman though, or Superman? Their power doesn't come from the size of their muscles.

  • Ben

    That argument doesn't really apply when the character their playing comes from a visual medium. Wonderwoman comes from a visual medium and has defined visual characteristics. Whenever she's drawn by artists who actually bother with different body types (Rather then some artists who just go "LOL ALL WOMEN LOOK LIKE THIS!" She's a beefy chick.

    If it was an original character that was powered by magic then sure, whatever. But it's not. Wonder Woman has existed for 70 years and comes with a certain set of expectations to her.

  • Aaron Schulz

    You cant really bring up the first 30 years of wonder woman if you are trying to argue she should be beefy. If a man binds her shes helpless and wore a nurses uniform in the 70s. And considering shes had the role for like 2 months and is already working out for a movie that doesnt start filming for like 8 months, shes prob going to be physically fine.

    The problem i see with the complaint is that Pajiba is pissed Gina Carano didnt get the part so now they have to attack Gal Gardot for getting it and not having Gina Caranos body, even before she has the chance to try and get muscles.

  • Ben

    Honestly the biggest problem with Gal Gardot being wonderwoman is just that she's a shitty actress. I mean I'm in the "Gina Carano should have been wonder woman" camp, but if an actress that actually had serious acting chops had been cast and didn't have the body for it. I rekon a lot of people wouldn't be anywhere near as upset with it.

    Gal Gardot though she's the worst actor in the Fast and the Furious franchise, and considering who she's up against that's really... not good. Hell in the last one I'd rank Gina Carano as a better actor then her and Gina Carano aint a great actor by any stetch of the imagination.

  • Jae

    Look, in a perfect world this would be a perfectly valid argument.

    However we do not live in a perfect world. We live in a world where muscular, ripped women are an obvious deviation from the conventional beauty standard. We live in a world where a woman is labelled as 'masculine' as soon as she gets ripped arms and|or a six-pack. God forbid she is also tall - then she doesn't even have to be all that feet to get the 'tranny' jokes thrown at her (examples: Brooke Hogan, Khloe Kardashian - and yes, they might be vile people from vile families, this still doesn't make this shit right). We live in a world when for the movies and TV 'waif-fu' is the norm, not the other way around. Try to name all the visibly athletic, muscular, ripped action movie heroines. Here is what I came with: Weaver, Hamilton, Biel, Carano, Rodriguez (and that's really stretching it). The rest? Tall and with naturally athletic-ish build , but keeping themselves slim (Jovovich, early Jolie, Hathaway), ridiculously miniscule (Beckinsale, later Jolie, Saldana, Glau) and whatever the hell Johansson is in Marvel movies.
    Gina Carano is a shitty actress but she made a splash, became a sensation, because for once female ass-kicker looked like she could actually kick ass. This is so rare, that it is, was used as a gimmick in itself.
    Yes, Wonder Woman is magic, she doesn't have to have big muscles to be stronger than anyone around her. And neither does Superman. But here is the thing: Superman, on a semi-daily basis, fights foes and does things that are physically challenging to him. So does Wonder Woman. She doesn't have to be ripped to be stronger than a human bodybuilder, but how about that dragon over there? How about, say, Artemis, another Amazon?

    But, yes, if you think you can easily find a reason for Wonder Woman to not deviate from the narrow standart of glossy conventional beauty.

    What I am trying to say with all this: after all there is no reason that a nuclear physisist can't look as Denise Richards, right?

  • foolsage

    I'm uncertain what point you're trying to make.

    I didn't think Denise Richards made a compelling nuclear physicist in any sense. That's because of her (apparent) lack of intelligence and acting skill, not because she's too beautiful. I don't think that has anything to do with this discussion though.

  • Jae

    My point is: 'strong despite not beeing ripped or often athletic in any way' is the norm for female action heroes in in Hollywood, and it is so because of one of the existing highly restrictive standards for female beauty. So saying 'she doesn't need to be muscular!' is basically saying 'there is a way she can conform, she doesn't have to be different', Which is a godd or neutral thing if you agree with the standard being good or neutral.
    Opinions may differ, but as for me, I find this standard bad and, to use some strong wording, oppresive, so I can't see anything good in explanations of how exactly it is perfectly possible for yet another female action hero to fit into it.

  • foolsage

    I don't agree that saying "she doesn't have to conform to one arbitrary standard" is the same as saying "there's a way she can conform", as you claimed. Not at all. I'm not arguing for conformity to e.g. the supermodel aesthetic, or to any other standard.

    I merely pointed out that Wonder Woman's muscles really don't matter much; what matters is that the actress can convincingly embody the character. I have no idea whether she can; I truly hope so though.

  • Aaron Schulz

    Its like Buffy, she was never ripped but could lift steel girders with ease. It was magic not muscle that made her kick a face in.

  • foolsage

    Good example. For that matter, Spider-man can lift ten tons over his head, but we don't cast hugely ripped guys in that role.

  • Well said Brian!

  • Brian Garvan

    My punctuation and graamar are atrocious.

  • the dude

    Gina Carano!! She has big biceps and looks the part!!

  • You're forgetting one thing about Carano. She's a horrible actress. Looking exactly like a comic book drawing is NOT the most important thing about being cast in a movie.

  • bastich

    They could have a different actor dub in Carano's lines, like Darth Vader!

    What's James Earl Jones up to these days, anyway? He'd be perfect as Wonder Woman!

  • foolsage

    Good casting there!

    "I find your lack of gender awareness... disturbing."

    "Henchmen do not interest me, Clark. I want that villain, not excuses."

    "Impressive. Most impressive. Ra's al Ghul has taught you well."

  • Antique (webelos8)

    Sprint commercials?

  • Kane Leal

    Too bad she has no screen charisma. Maybe it was the director, but she wasn't good in her movie.

  • Ben

    She was fine in Fast and the Furious, not oscar worthy or anything but no where near as bad as she was in Haywire.

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