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No. Goddammit, NO. No fucking sequels! You made one good Sci-Fi flick, leave it at that. Do not fucking Matrix this thing!

It's not just you. That's part of what bothers me about the comic book fandom too, arguments that start by saying things like, "Superhero X would NEVER ..."

Come to think of it, I tend to skip most fantasy and sword/sorcery type movies and books for pretty much the same reason, though I can buy into good science fiction occasionally. I don't want to have to learn the rules of new worlds and new languages. I have enough trouble keeping the rules of THIS world straight.

You slammed one of his testicles??

Not too irked about this news. See, we'll rarely run into those Avatar fanboys out in the world because they'll be the type that never leave their mother's basements. ..Unlike those Twihard tweens running around babbling about their obsessionlove in those emo-vamp tshirts they never clean.
Sure Avatar would be best left as a stand-alone film, but isn't it just a given now that anything that tops the box office will birth a sequel?

I'm firmly middle of the road on this picture. don't love it, don't hate it. I'll watch it On Demand, but not in the theater. I won't eat the Big Mac tie in, but I might eat the large fry. I won't buy the Avatar plush toy, but perhaps the Avatar mudflaps. I'm not going to buy the Avatar offcially authorized novelization, but if James Cameron stopped in my driveway and summarized the plot with hand motions, I'd listen politely. If Sigourney Weaver wanted to whisper her character motivation huskily as an audiobook, I'd at least listen to it during my commute. I'll still think of Pandora as a music service first, but hey I know it's in the movie. What I'm really saying here is it's no They Live, but it's also no Escape from LA.

Charlie Sheen got arrested over the Christmas break for going vietnam on wife’s ass and not a peep out of the pajibians. If it were someone black kicking their wife’s ass the pajibians would be calling for blood. I saw Avatar it was so so.

God damn but you hate yourself some nerds. Were you kicked out of the math club as a kid, or something? Did your friends not share their comic books or video games?

What did we do to make you hate us so much, Dustin?

And for the record, I could watch another five movies based on the Avatar universe if they all looked as incredible as this one.

/nasal dripping

Rowles is a notorious nerd hater Snath.

And Slim is a notorious nerf herder.

Oh, shut up. I'm a little rusty is all.

My husband and I had fun watching Avatar, mostly for the visuals but he has a couple of bitches. 1) The sound of the helicopters. He really wanted to hear what a helicopter with four blades would sound like and was disappointed that they used the sound of Huey. Maybe Cameron was trying to draw some obscure Vietnam reference, but it came across as the laziness that it probably was. (Snuggie, my husband would get along well with your bird-call fanatic uncle). 2) The font used for the title and subtitles. Instead of developing his own font, Cameron paid $30 to use Papyrus. Maybe Cameron will fix both of those in the sequels. Lord knows he spent enough money and effort already, what's another couple thousand to make those bits of laziness disappear?

Yeah, I'm sick to death of it too. I talked/argued with a friend who's seen it, not too enthused but still thought it was a good escape, about the merit of story-telling.

It's just if I want to be awed by visual beauty of stuff, I'd probably watch the Planet Earth DVD series anyways, but then again they are not in 3D. And there is a big wave that has been developing over decades that's trying to sweep all good stories once and for all because they are not as marketable or bankable.

I could appreciate the visual probably but I don't want to contribute into that type of thinking trying to make story obsolete. To me, saying we need escapist movie that won't make you think more is comparable to Christian right saying there should be equal attention given to creationism. There's already great influx of story-less movies for one thing and though movie can be the medium for visual entertainment, if the work purport to have any kind of through line narrative at all, it does not change the fact that visual magic all have to be in service of story, not the other way around.

Movies do too good at their worst for long enough and they would be no good at all.

Stardust

I love your husband. You snagged a keeper.

Avatar has been out exactly 10 days now, and I’m sick to death of it.

Whatever, dude. You were sick of this movie sometime back in July or August or something.

I would love to see more Avatar movies as long as they can immerse you in that world again. What would the sequels be though? Jake has already become one of the Na'vi. He's already met his life mate, Neytiri. He's ridden the Toruk. The humans have left the planet and he united the tribes...So...what would the new story even be? What, is his avatar (which is technically just him now right?) going to become paralyzed? Because that would just be, well, funny.

Avatar has created another one of these fanboy worlds with practically a made-up language.
Cameron and a Dr. Paul Frommer did actually create another language with a vocabulary of over 1,000 words (that number comes from wiki, the IMDB reports it at around 500 words). So it's not "practically," it is.

But what am I saying? I've already stated I have a hard on for Neytiri so any excuse to see her again is good enough for me.

Did you know in Hinduism avatar "refers to the appearance in physical form, having descended from heaven to earth, of a deity."

"I’m frankly kind of taken aback at how seriously those who love or hate Avatar take their love and hate. There’s barely a middle ground here"

Welcome to the internet, you new here?

Rowles is just upset that Avatar is far more popular than he will ever be, and more entertaining than any Ryan Reynolds film.

Hey Rowles, have you ever heard the term, "Don't shit where you eat?" Of course you have.

I mention it because you don't seem to have any understanding of what it means and how it applies to your website. The overwhelming majority of movie-goers are men. True story. Just look at the different in box offices between Batman movies and Reese Witherspoon movies. We win. The balls win (hold back your burgeoning, phony disgust at this mildly misogynistic perspective).

Because the majority of movie goers are men, I would bet that the majority of cinephiles are men. I would bet that the majority of Pajiba regulars are men. I'm not saying there aren't ANY women here -- thank God there are -- I'm saying they're a minority.

Most men, Rowles, like fan-boy shit. Obviously not everyone can speak Klingon, but you don't have to in order to enjoy the new Star Trek movie. Not every man knows the back story of Frodo's glowing vial of whatever, but you don't have to in order to enjoy The Lord of the Rings trilogy. Not every man knows that Tony Stark was transformed into a teenager for a little while in the late '90s in an attempt to boost sales with teenagers, but you don't need to in order to enjoy Iron Man.

Most of the people who come to this site (men) have at least a casual understanding of these things, if not a fanatical obsession. And what do you do? You mercilessly bitch about us. You take every single opportunity to whine and moan and lament our existence -- and for what? Because you're a tough guy? Because you like sports and wine? Because you're hard and nails and we're soft? It's stupid. It's FUCKING stupid.

There isn't a division anymore between fanboys and regular men. Regular men ARE fanboys. As I've stated before, there are varying degrees of fanaticism for the stars and characters (I, for example have absolutely NO desire to suck off Robert Downey Jr. or Ryan Reynolds), but enjoying these types of things doesn't mean someone is ripe for your continuing assaults.

I like it here, but I get really sick of your whiney bitching about fanboys. You don't know what you're talking about and you've got some shit stuck in between your teeth.

Wow superasente...

I'm not going to get into that...mainly because I'm not in the mood. However...I think it has been proven quite often that women are the majority here. Men are in fact the minority on this website.

Just saying.

Superasente has hit the nail right on the head, I have known for YEARS that there's a vast conspiracy to cover-up the fact that most "women" are, in fact, men.

/has a newsletter

The overwhelming majority of movie-goers are men. True story. Just look at the different in box offices between Batman movies and Reese Witherspoon movies. We win. The balls win (hold back your burgeoning, phony disgust at this mildly misogynistic perspective).

True story? Actually the majority of movie-goers are female, unless of course you choose not to agree with statistics of the MPAA.

This particular "burgeoning, phony disgust" is aimed at citation of phony numbers.

Pajiba is in a paradoxical situation, the majority of it’s members are female but the majority of movie goers are male. At times pajiba must placate it’s female members in order to keep them happy and to keep them coming back.

I subscribe to the theory that whomever pays your bills you must sing their song and drink their wine. The male movie studio head does not have to put up with such nonsense about trying to appease the female movie goer because there is always another Transformer or Batman movie just around the corner. The movie industry can not survive on female themed movies.

Most of the men here live in a matriarch system, but I live in a patriarch system. In the woods you have the buck which is a male deer, and you have a doe which is a female deer. The buck is not supposed to back up to the doe, the doe is supposed to back up to the buck. The female dollar has never, and will never sustain the movie industry.

Cameron strikes me as the sort of director who would have made Titanic 2 if he could have. A sequel to Avatar isn't that big of a surprise. Is it? Really???

I thought I read that the other moons in the system were to be the setting for sequels. The sequels may not have anything to do with the Avatar story other than general proximity. Maybe in the end he has an Avengers style tie-it-all-together movie in mind.

superasente, you seem to be laboring under the delusion that action flicks are not attended by lots and lots of women. Face it, neither Jason Statham nor Christian Bale would have a damned career if we didn't pay to watch them flail around and hit things. See also, the previous incarnation of Matt Damon (notice how little money his "comedy" about ADM made in comparison to the Bourne films?), the entirety of Brad Pitt's career, and most of Angelina Jolie's (because a fair number of us would jump the fence to hit that, at least in her prime). I am thoroughly female, and not only do I like flicks where people fly, shit blows up, dudes hit each other, cars go fast, there's a healthy amount of enthusiastic sex and/or death, I also like watching football and seeing my opponent crumple to the ground. Stealing his woman is optional, because most of them don't do a thing for me. So please, please stop assuming that a bunch of boys rubbing up against their superhero/fantasy icons is the only thing that fuels the great movie machine. Some of them rub up against girls who ALSO go to the movies.

My first reaction was HELL NO!

Bu now that I think about it, maybe it will have a more original or at least less obviously Fern Gully/Dances with Wolves/Pochahantas story line. Then I will consider seeing it.

I keep hearing that Avatar's story and dialogue is "atrocious". Someone please give me examples of this horrible dialogue. Any movie has a line or two which may be considered "clunky" or "corny" by some; but I've yet to see anyone in the theater laughing or complaining about poor dialogue throughout Avatar. Someone also please educate me as to why SOME people think the story is soooo poor that they need to slam it so bad. Sure, it borrows and stitches elements together which we may have seen in other movies over the years, but it is executed with plenty of originality, and great pacing. All I know is most people who see this film, shed tears as they empathize with the characters, clap at loud during key moments, and can't wipe the smile off their face during most of the film or after. They also want to watch it and visit Pandora again. Apparently, MOST of America (and the rest of the world)are nerds...including most of the critics who raved about this movie!