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Proyas Tackles the Tripods


Hopefully They Won't Die of the Flu / TK

Trade News | October 14, 2009 | Comments (47)


Has anyone read John Christopher’s Tripods trilogy? I wonder how widely read it is these days. I read it a million years ago (OK, more like 20 years ago), but I remember it being an engaging and actually quite thrilling series of books. The novels (“The White Mountains,” “The City of Gold and Lead,” and “The Pool of Fire”), actually written by Samuel Youd (Christopher is one of his many pseudonyms), concerned a post-apocalyptic world where humanity has been conquered by unseen aliens who rule via giant three-legged machines called “tripods” (clearly inspired by War of the Worlds, though not the one featuring aliens that died from catching a cold, fuck you very much Mr. Spielberg). At the age of 14, humans are made to wear “caps” that suppress individual thought and turn them into automatons. A group of young teens rebel against the idea of being capped, and escape towards adventure and freedom. They were, from what I recall, great books.

Well, according to Digital Spy, Alex Proyas is set to direct the trilogy. It seems in theory to be a perfect vehicle for Proyas, if he can move closer to his roots (The Crow, Dark City) and away from the flawed blockbusters he’s been cranking out as of late (I, Robot or, God help us, Knowing). He’s got the capacity to film some amazing set pieces and beautiful atmospheres, and given the right writing and some flexibility, he might be a great fit for the material. The trilogy has previously been adapted into a BBC TV series in the mid-to-late ’80s, which I never saw. Anyone got an opinion on those? Worth tracking down?


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TK you do realize that Spielberg's version of how the aliens are defeated is true to Well's? There are all kinds of reasons to dis Spielberg but that ain't one of 'em.

Posted by: Barec2 at October 14, 2009 9:55 AM

If aliens are so much smarter than us, why do they insist on building such unstable machines? Take out just one leg of a tripod and the thing likely comes down. Even nature knows that -- how many three-legged animals are there (besides all Pajiba men, of course)?

Posted by: , (TCFKAB) at October 14, 2009 10:04 AM

I have seen parts of the BBC adaptation. With the typical way better acting / lower production values compared to US fare, it was pretty good. That and Proyas' other work suggests that his version would be worth a look.

Posted by: BierceAmbrose at October 14, 2009 10:08 AM

Yeah ",". I have a real problem keeping myself upright on 2 legs.

And, in H.G.Wells "War of the Worlds" the aliens are defeated by catching a cold. That was the whole point. We could shoot at them, bomb them, etc. and nothing worked, and then they got a virus or bacteria or something and all died without our help.

Posted by: BWeaves at October 14, 2009 10:10 AM

I emerge from lurkdom, charmed by the mention of Christopher, to say that of course I remember the trilogy. It was one of those formative sf childhood reads, and actually stood up quite well to an adult re-read a few months back. It's a tense, slightly disturbing, politically quite sophisticated story which should adapt well to film, and Proyas is not nearly as bad a choice as we might expect. Imagine what Spielberg or Bay would do to it... Yup, I'm excited.

Posted by: extemporanea at October 14, 2009 10:11 AM

I read it as a child, and read it to my daughter, too, a few years ago. I also saw the BBC series, which was quite good. I always wondered why there wasn't a movie or two made out of it...it would seem to be perfect for a good adaptation.

There are so many terrific kids books that would make fabulous movies, that I have to wonder why we keep getting shit movies and remakes. Any of Nancy Farmer's books would be great.

Posted by: Wednesday at October 14, 2009 10:26 AM

Wow, I had almost forgotten about those books and the BBC series. I believe I saw the tv series, was intrigued, and then read the books. I loved them, but I was probably 10 years old when I read them.

Posted by: Hoof Hearted at October 14, 2009 10:31 AM

BWeaves,

You need that sarcasm font, I think ...

I know how the aliens lost in WotW. I'm just saying they clearly could have added a fourth leg for extra stability, it's certainly not beyond their technical capability and it should have been in their mental capacity to consider alternatives to three legs. But maybe that would have sent the project over budget and they had to cut corners somewhere and take their chances. Maybe they were getting shit from the citizen aliens back on the home planet about the military industrial complex, or maybe their legislature was taken over by liberal aliens who whacked the military hardware budget and they had to cut out Death Ray Machine 2.0 or something ...

Where was I going with this? Oh yeah ...

Think of it this way: If you have a three-legged stool and one leg breaks, the stool is useless. If you have a four-legged stool and one leg breaks, you could reposition one leg and still have a useful stool. Anyone who's ever seen a three-legged dog knows how that works. Apparently no dogs back on the alien world, they probably ate them all.

It's also worth mentioning, I suppose, that in the George Pal version from 1953 the tripods weren't tripods at all, the death machines flew. And damn if they weren't impressive special effects for the day.

Posted by: , (TCFKAB) at October 14, 2009 10:32 AM

though not the one featuring aliens that died from catching a cold, fuck you very much Mr. Spielberg).

i'm so confused.
but i do love me some alex proyas.

Posted by: gp at October 14, 2009 10:33 AM

oh, you guys have already schooled him. i thought i was just not getting it. i'm a little off my game this morning.

at least, the aliens weren't defeated by... a glass of water perched precariously on top of an entertainment center.

Posted by: gp at October 14, 2009 10:35 AM

Oh, come on gp, it took several glasses of water to defeat that alien.

Posted by: Todd at October 14, 2009 10:50 AM

extemporanea...not to shine the light on you but good on you for delurking. Has anyone else but me noticed that there's been a ton of great people emerging from the shadows lately?!!!? This is awesome! More bodies in the pool!!

...and as a result, more people to rub against!

Posted by: PissBoy at October 14, 2009 10:50 AM

...ooo! and a baseball bat! and asthma. And a Culkin....the one not fondled by Michael Jackson.

Posted by: PissBoy at October 14, 2009 10:54 AM

Can we please move past fucking tripods!!??

If an alien civilization flew here from light years the fuck away in spaceships, then WHY DO YOU NEED MACHINES THAT HAVE LEGS TO TOUCH THE GROUND. YOU'RE ALIENS, MAKE SHIT HOVER. Seriously now. I'm pretty sure you have that technology. For god sakes, we have hot air balloons. You come here with the supposedly world-beating-technology of a maimed giraffe. Christ.


p.s. Dark City was The Matrix before...ugh...The Matrix. So by the transitive property of suck, you can blame Proyas for the sequels.

Posted by: D-Day at October 14, 2009 10:58 AM

Watever. The reason the tripods have three legs is because in the Christopher series the aliens have three legs (and love the number three) so their vehicles are designed similarly.

I'm not certain if Well's Martians also have three legs -- it was never clearly discussed in the book -- but again, part of the reason for tripods is because they are so alien to Earth fauna and play on our inherent xenophobia.

I.E., they're scary.

Posted by: Neodiogenes at October 14, 2009 11:01 AM

Yes, yes! I loved these books. But I haven't thought about them for years. I wouldn't have been able to name the author or the titles - but when you started recapping the plot it was still all right there in my memory.

I'd like a comment diversion on beloved, obscure children's books.

For instance, I've been claiming for years that there is a book out there about telepathic alien cats who have mixed in with the normal cat population, until one day the mothership comes back to pick them up - and they take an orphaned child with them to their home planet. No one believes me.

Anyone out there remember this? Helloooo? Internet?

Posted by: marya at October 14, 2009 11:03 AM

D-Day, Where are you these days? Last I saw you at the end of "Animal House" the caption read "Whereabouts unknown." I have some welding that needs to be done.

And you're right, of course (see my ref. to the George Pal death ray machines above). For that matter, why not just blast Earth with a death ray from the mother ship? Unless they just enjoyed doing their killing from close up, but that seems rather inefficient.

Posted by: , (TCFKAB) at October 14, 2009 11:05 AM

"," I believe the reason the aliens had tripod structured battleships was because the aliens WERE tripod creatures. And that kind of makes sense; intelligent species seems to create technology that mimics what they already know (i.e. cars have four wheels, like horses have four legs, even though two wheels would be more maneuverable.)

And, TK, I am sorry, but the most genius thing about War of the Worlds is that the aliens DO die of human/earth bacterial and/or virus infections...because that would be the number one killer of alien life visiting our planet. Think about it this way...the universe is made up of atoms; atom follow defined rules to make up molecules; molecules follow defined rules to form membranes, which thus make it possible to create life. If there is life in other places in the universe, it will be membrane based life...and it will be susceptible to membrane invaders, like bacterium and viruses, just like the life that exists now. Would alien travelers potentially be smart enough to realize this and take precautions? Well, yeah, but as any person who studies epidemics can tell you, it only takes one idiot who gets something nasty and then doesn't wash his hands to wipe out whole populations. A perfect example is smallpox and the American Indian, or AIDS in Africa (or really America, when you look at the numbers).

As others have said, Spielberg does deserve a big F U for other stuff, but not for that plot point...Orson Wells actually owns that bit of brilliance.

Posted by: NotesOnMyBathroomMirror at October 14, 2009 11:11 AM

So the aliens built large versions of themselves. I'll buy that. Still ... back on their home planet, were no aliens ever born deformed? Did aliens never get in knife fights and cut a leg off? Did they never get old or have strokes that rendered one leg immobile? I can hear groups of them mocking two-leggers: "HHAHAHAHAHAHA, look at Mdsh&ro$ the gimp over there, HEY BIPOD! Suck my fourth leg!" High school would be hell for a two-legged alien.

So considering such tormented alien geeks likely grew up to be the engineers who developed their weaponry, you'd think they might add an extra leg to the war machine just to be on the safe side (if they're going to build a legged machine at all, but maybe they just thought legs looked cool, cause that's what they saw in the alien version of "Star Wars" or something -- starring Luke Triwalker and Han Trio).

Posted by: , (TCFKAB) at October 14, 2009 11:24 AM

I first read about the Tripods as an adapted comic strip series that was published in Boys' Life magazine. My exposure to that led me to read the actual trilogy of novels and finally to the BBC TV series when it was shown on PBS. Tragically, the only the first two of the three books were covered as it was canceled before they could complete it with the third and final series. The TV series was actually pretty good despite the usual lack of funds for quality effects. As with other British Sci-Fi series of the day such as "Doctor Who" and "Blake's 7" The Tripods relied more on story and acting over flash. To their credit, despite the shortcomings, the innovation and improvisations of the effects crew made what could have been a real turkey into something respectful to the source material. In the end I'll take a good story and used my own imagination to fill in the blanks that lacking special effects leave out over great whiz-bang effects and an empty tale (are you listening Michael Bay?)

It should also be noted that the author also wrote a prequel novel "When the Tripods Came" twenty years after the trilogy was published. You don't need to read it, but it does off a thicker backstory and history to the Tripod Universe, and since it was written by the original creator, should be taken as canon.

Posted by: bleujayone at October 14, 2009 11:28 AM

Watever. The reason the tripods have three legs is because in the Christopher series the aliens have three legs (and love the number three) so their vehicles are designed similarly.

Also tripods, by definition, have three legs.

Posted by: Carrie at October 14, 2009 11:30 AM

Carrie has a point there.

Posted by: PissBoy at October 14, 2009 11:49 AM

And, TK, I am sorry, but the most genius thing about War of the Worlds is that the aliens DO die of human/earth bacterial and/or virus infections...because that would be the number one killer of alien life visiting our planet.
Sorry, Notes, but as a biologist, I have to take exception to that one.

First, it's not the membranes that are at issue with viruses, it's the genetic material. Viruses co-opt the production facilities of our cells by creating RNA that is read and translated by our cells. Yes, they have to get past the membrane first, but if the alien uses different nucleic acids for their genetic material or any other replication mechanism, the virus will just sit there inert.

As for bacteria.... that's a big maybe. Most don't actually penetrate the cell membrane. Intracellular infection is relatively rare. The odds are pretty poor that an intracellular bacteria will have the right mechanisms to penetrate a truly novel organism. However, if the aliens have a metabolism similar to ours, other types of bacteria will still find food in there.

But if Earth bacteria are similar enough to the aliens to infect them, the aliens will also have experience with bacteria-like pathogens and will likely understand the concept of antibiotics.

Now, if life is super rare and we roll with a Star Trek style "Preservers" thing where most of the life in the galaxy came from the same source.... sure. The aliens will be similar enough to be infected by our pathogens. Of course, the reverse will happen as well, and we'll get culled by about 80% by their version of the common cold as well.

If, on the other hand, life arises independently.... they could just as easily be based on very different nucleic acids or lipid membranes. Or they could even use silicon instead of carbon if they grew up on a planet with the right conditions, meaning their cellular processes will be completely novel, if they have cells in the traditional sense at all. If that's the case, there's no way in hell pathogens will cross species.

I can sorta buy into the War of the Worlds solution because additional life in our solar system from a relatively similar environment (Mars) may be based on the same complex molecules. It might even be likely. The earth and mars both shed matter all the time, and it can spread around the solar system given enough time. We've even found amino acids on a comet, but I digress. However, if you start talking about life from a different solar system... all bets are off.

Posted by: ZombieScientist at October 14, 2009 11:49 AM

I love that you guys took my screw up in the post and ran with it, and now it's turned into a biology lesson.

I say that without a hint of irony. I fucking love it.

Posted by: TK at October 14, 2009 11:51 AM

My spinning wheel has 3 legs, which makes it incredibly stable no matter the uneven floor I set it on. My chair which sits in front of the spinning wheel has 4 legs and wobbles no matter how I try to adjust it. (Note to self: Don't use a matchbook to steady the 4th leg. When I accidentally move the chair I could set the leg on fire.)

"," Moving a 4th leg to a new position on an item that had 4 legs and lost one, is no different from adding a leg to a tripod that lost one. I don't really see the difference. Maybe they are like starfish and can grow a new one.

Posted by: BWeaves at October 14, 2009 12:09 PM

BBC short series from the 80s?

No. Not worth it. Doesn't matter what it is or what it's about. Not. Worth. It.

Posted by: ChristianH at October 14, 2009 12:10 PM

This thread has now officially involved more scientific plausibility discussion than the last 10 years of Hollywood blockbuster story meetings.
Seriously, when are we as a group going to start writing our own movie here? I'd love to see a film wherein GIANT story logic holes have actually been discussed and eliminated, rather than fluffed, spit-shined, and thrown in the trailer.

Posted by: laredo at October 14, 2009 12:14 PM

Marya,

Could you be thinking of Andre Norton's Star Ka'at?

Posted by: Wednesday at October 14, 2009 12:32 PM

I still love how TK and Dustin and all the writers hyperlink Pajiba in their names.

...as if to say. Hey...after you read this article, go check out this website. It's pretty cool.

Honetly though, I followed their links once. The site fucking sucked. So I came back here.

Posted by: PissBoy at October 14, 2009 12:44 PM

Anyone who's ever dealt in construction/design will tell you that a tripod is easier than four legs to stabilize.

Posted by: Jiffyzen at October 14, 2009 1:42 PM

And it also uses less material, so it's more economical.

Posted by: Jiffyzen at October 14, 2009 1:44 PM

"If an alien civilization flew here from light years the fuck away in spaceships, then WHY DO YOU NEED MACHINES THAT HAVE LEGS TO TOUCH THE GROUND. YOU'RE ALIENS, MAKE SHIT HOVER."

On the other hand, that's exactly what Independence Day did; we all know how that turned out.

Posted by: Craig at October 14, 2009 1:58 PM

You know the most stable design of all? Weebles. Just try to knock one of those bad boys down. Maybe the aliens should be based on Weebles.

Posted by: ed newman at October 14, 2009 2:36 PM

That would be awesome! Giant weebles terrorizing the earth. Especially if they had those happy faces painted on them. Of course weebles trade stability for a lack of mobility. So you'd just have to keep out of their "rocking" range.

Posted by: Jiffyzen at October 14, 2009 3:06 PM

"I love that you guys took my screw up in the post and ran with it, and now it's turned into a biology lesson."

screw up = ignorance?

Posted by: required at October 14, 2009 3:28 PM

Gee, yet another outright lie by a Pajiba staff member.

And STOP THE FUCKING PRESSES!!!!!! they actually get called out on it by someone other then me and in the first comment no less.

Question is, will TK:

A) Pull on a pair of big boy pants, man up and admit that he was wrong and made a mistake and apologize

B) Ignore the calling out completely in hopes that everyone will have forgotten about it in another 90 minutes

C) post some endlessly boring horseshit which lays the blame everywhere, tries to draw attention away by saying, "LOOK!!!!!!! SHINY NOISES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" and pretends that TK never made the comment at all?

I see that TK chose C.

Shocker.

Not.

Just one in the seemingly endless examples of the Gen X/Gen Y scum refusing to accept any responsibility for their actions/words.

You are filth TK and I hope you are crippled when a bus runs you over.

Posted by: Fappy McFapper at October 14, 2009 3:33 PM

Fappy is wearing crazypants today.

Posted by: Julie at October 14, 2009 3:51 PM

You know how to solve the tippy-over tripod thingy? Easy. Just sew a bunch of them together! HAVE WE LEARNED NOTHING FROM THE POOPY BREATHED HUMANPEDE? Three-legged aliens need only look toward our no-kneed, no toothed, flying purple pooper eaters to see that multiple - MULTIPLE - legs are the way to go...

It's sad, really.

Posted by: Skitz at October 14, 2009 4:05 PM

Fappy, you so crazy. Just remember, it's not nice to hoard all of the booze and drugs for yourself.

And a bus could never cripple TK. He's got fists in his chin. No, wait, that's Chuck Norris. Sorry TK, looks like you're screwed.

Posted by: Madcity at October 14, 2009 4:06 PM

Julie, I think you might have meant to type "douchepants" and spelled it wrong. Or maybe that was just me...

Posted by: Anna von Beaverpuppet at October 14, 2009 4:07 PM

YES! Andre Norton's Star Ka'at series. Although, I've gone back and reread the Tripod series a gazillion times since I was 10 and read it originally. But I tried to reread Star Ka'at stuff and it was just terrible. One of the things I loved about the Tripods books is that its protagonists were flawed, and really plausible kids, in the middle of a very grown-up world. Can't wait! Go Proyas go!

Posted by: Jen at October 14, 2009 4:32 PM

Oh my god, the link worked! OK, listen up everyone. If you want me to be able to visit Pajiba at will and laugh and cry and point at the douchesippers along with y'all, this is what needs to be done: Someone, anyone (or everyone) needs to link to every single post on Pajiba from their Facebook page (it helps if we're friends first). That way I can clicky the linky and poof! I'm here! Woo! Yay! So, I don't care how insignificant the article may be, I don't care if it's the latest movie trailer or Dustin's most recent tearjerker about how RyRey will never! Be! His! I want it. I need it. So give it to me, please?

I should also add that I haven't read the Tripods trilogy but I know I'd be interested in the movie. On topic, yes indeedy.

Posted by: Kolby at October 14, 2009 4:55 PM

If I remember correctly, the reason they used Tripods was because the aliens themselves were tripedal (is that a word). The explanation given in the books is that the aliens come from a planet with much higher gravity, and the third leg makes them more stable.

Also, in terms of what happens when you cut off a leg, two legs isn't exactly brilliant for that and yet scifi is filled with two legged mechs. Just sayin'.

Posted by: Chugga at October 14, 2009 5:17 PM

This might just be my interpretation, but I always thought of the Tripod aliens from WOTW as having no legs and three penises.

Posted by: Daniel Hall at October 14, 2009 9:48 PM

OMG, I think PissBoy just rubbed himself against me! I feel... slightly revolted. And obscurely welcomed.

Posted by: extemporanea at October 15, 2009 8:55 AM

I loved this series! I first read it as a kid and happened to see the first one at my bookstore a while ago, so I bought it to see how it held up. It's still great young adult sci-fi. I can't wait for the movie! Please don't let it be a cheap action-y special effects vehicle. The point of the books wasn't that the tripods were scary because they were there and terrifying, the point was that the main characters were surrounded by brainwashed people and the tripods COULD be there at any moment. It was more about suspense than horror, though when the characters do inevitably have to confront them they are quite horrific. I hope this ends up as thoughtful and satisfying as the book series.

Posted by: BiblioGeek at October 15, 2009 10:52 PM

OMGOMGOMGOMG!

Posted by: AmbroseKalifornia at October 16, 2009 3:25 AM





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