A Measured And Reasonable Response To Zack Snyder's 'Batman vs Superman' Quotes
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A Measured And Reasonable Response To Zack Snyder's 'Batman vs Superman' Quotes

By Jodi Clager | Trade News | March 4, 2014 | Comments ()


I know that in the past I have been tough ,some would say prematurely, on the Man of Steel sequel and its director. Far be it for me to unnecessarily bemoan the existence of a movie that is barely into filming based only on poor casting choices and the track record of the director. I intend to give this film a fair shake once it appears in cinemas.

About the upcoming film’s intended storyline, director Zack Snyder declared:

“[It] literally takes the “Man of Steel” and “Batman” universes and explodes them. You’re not as tied to the mythology. In Man of Steel, we had to create an origin story, a mythology, and there’s a lot of energy into that, which we love doing. Don’t get me wrong. But when you think about how fun it is too — now that you’ve got these characters — to now let ‘em loose. That’s fun!”

Yes, well. I suppose fun and Batman and Superman aren’t generally connected to one another in the sense of having a good time while crime fighting. Or when considering the burdens they both carry with them. Perhaps we don’t need to be tied to the long-standing mythology of universally loved and known characters, ahem, let’s just let the writer of Sucker Punch and 300 have his way. As to the backlash to his casting, Zack comments thusly:

“There are two ways to think about it. We know the material. Unfortunately, the fans don’t know the material. So, we’re casting according to what’s happening in the script. And we’re hoping that leads to enough originality, enough perspective on what we’re doing that you get something fresh and exciting. I understand the canon. I’m not crazy. I know what these characters need from a mythological standpoint. I think Jesse is going to be an amazing Lex. Let’s not forget he was nominated for an Academy Award. It’s not like I just grabbed my friend to play the guy! This guy’s the real deal. By the way, in looking at all the talk-back, you can get all different perspectives in there too. Some people are hating to hate. Some people — someone did some fan art. And you look underneath and someone wrote, “I guess I can see it.” Honestly, are you kidding me? Just stop it! It’s reassuring and frustrating at the same time.”

I admit I don’t know what Snyder and David S. Goyer are writing with The Dark Knight as their jumping off point. Perhaps Gal Godot will be a surprisingly competent and entertaining Wonder Woman. Maybe Batman won’t turn his back on his principles and Superman will feel badly for that little murder he committed. I look forward to seeing Snyder’s take on the duo come 2016 and will hold all further criticisms until that time.


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Comments Are Welcome, Bigots and Trolls Are Not

  • Pugiron

    If you have a brain, The Dark Mary Sue and the Dark Mary Sue Rises get worse and make less sense with each viewing and the Man of Crap was horrible. This movie is going to be Batman And Robin bad and hopefully will make DC take a step back and wait a while before making another Hero movie before we really do get a fucking Aquaman movie.

  • hapl0

    Unless they are going to use Jesse for a CGI Lex, I really can't take him seriously as a threat to Both Affleck and Cavill. Heck, even Gadot will mess him up with her toothpick arms.

  • Ben

    Lex could never take any of them in a fight anyway. His whole thing is that he outsmarts people not outfights them.

  • Bob Genghis Khan

    Jesus Christ. It's ok to have fun, DC/Warners. It's a fucking Superman movie. He doesn't HAVE TO CARRY A BURDEN.

  • TherecanbeonlyoneAdmin

    “There are two ways to think about it. We know the material. Unfortunately, the fans don’t know the material."

    This one statement, which I know relates to his script, tell me that Snyder does not fucking understand what he's doing at all.

    You know nothing, Zack Snyder.

  • Rophiandis

    EXACTLY. I was just about to comment that this exact quote represents one of his biggest problems here. The suggestion that these fans, with their decades of experience with and love for the characters "don't know the material" because we haven't read HIS script is downright insulting, and shows a fundamental lack of respect for the character.

    I'd never suggest that any director or screenwriter should be 100% beholden to the source material, but this just reeks of being arrogant and dismissive, showing no interest in understanding the actual spirit of the characters.

  • Strand

    My favourite Snyder is still the one my friends and I call "That Owl Movie."

  • Rophiandis

    Not going to lie, I actually thought you were talking about Watchmen (Nightowl) for like a full minute.

  • Sara_Tonin00

    Saw it in theaters. Own it.

    But Watchmen is the only other movie of his I've seen

  • thatsmrsnyder

    I have that movie on a private amazon wishlist because I'm scared my wife will judge me harshly if she knows I actually, uh, kind of like that movie.

  • I don't know why, in these sort of discussions, people keep bringing up '300' like it's a blot on Snyder's resume or something he should be ashamed of. I mean, 'Sucker Punch', yeah, that was kind of a mess, but '300' was a pretty good movie that made a shit-ton of money.

  • NoPantsMcLane

    300 was fun when it came out, but it does not hold up anymore at all. I tried watching it again a few weeks ago and i could not even get through half of it.

  • Fabius_Maximus

    300 was pretty atrocious, although that's mostly not Snyder's fault. He carbon-copied a visually stunning, but bloody stupid comic. Snyder's only addition was an equally dumb political subplot, so he and Miller completed each other.

  • Ben

    So what I'm getting from this article is that you don't want a Superman Batman cross over movie to be fun, and you want to tie it down with the convuluted continuity asscoiated with the characters?

    Because Snyder sounds like he wants to make a fun mvovie about dudes in stupid costumes punching eachother without bogging it down too much in character lore. So basically what marvel have been doing? Idon't see how that's problem.

  • Pugiron

    If your response to Snyder's words is "that sounds fun" you are a total moron, like your mother and father were before you.

  • Ben

    That really seems like an overly harsh response to my opinion on a comic book movie.

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  • BWeaves

    I just got a visual of a white duck selling insurance.

  • Mrs. Julien

    In a moment of profound projection, my best friend thought the duck was saying "back fat".

  • BWeaves

    OK, that made me snort tea out my nose.

  • Ben

    I'll take whatever Affleck does over more of Bales fucking stupid Batman voice any day. Hell I'll take bat nipples over that fucking voice.

  • Justin Kuhn

    ...Affleck, is that you?

  • Ben

    I think it's just generally people that have ears.

  • Justin Kuhn

    Take a joke, Ben.

  • googergieger

    Eh, fuck em.

  • Melissa D

    Do you bite your thumb at ME, Sir?

    I shall love you forever just for that reference.

  • Bob Genghis Khan

    Draw, if you be men!

  • Sounds to me like Snyder wants to give Michael Bay a run for his money in the explosions department.

  • Pants-are-a-must

    In a word: No.

    In two words? Fuck no.

  • VonnegutSlut

    Two more words: fuckity bye.

  • Pants-are-a-must

    To me, or to Snyder? Because if to me, I'd say, why use Capaldi against me? :(

  • BWeaves

    You can use Capaldi against me any time. And by against me, I do mean in literal contact.

  • VonnegutSlut

    To Snyder...sorry for the confusion. I was seconding your sentiment with Capaldi for emphasis.

    Also, little known fact: Capaldi is the only defense against TravoltaHair. Random, but true. It just might save your life someday.

  • BlackRabbit

    Capaldi sounds like some kind of esoteric kung-fu.

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