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A Dance with Dragons Actually Really (He Means it This Time) Finished

By Steven Lloyd Wilson | Posted Under Trade News | Comments (36)



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In 2002, I started reading the most fantastic fantasy series. You may have heard of it. It was “A Song of Ice and Fire,” the first book of which has a title familiar to the illiterate hordes who can only watch HBO: “A Game of Thrones.” I was burnt out by that point on Robert Jordan, as the novels of “A Wheel of Time” got progressively longer and less and less happened even while entire chapters seemed devoted to describing dresses worn by secondary characters. “A Game of Thrones” was a breath of fresh air. Vile, dark, yet with just enough goodness and hope that a reader craved to see how it would end. There was a tangible feeling that Martin was making a world so morally hazy that when eventually some tainted victory came, it would blaze blinding in eyes grown used to seeing only in shades of gray.

I pushed through those first three books in a week or two, and then passed them on to my grandfather, who while never a reader of fantasy novels of any ilk, was a voracious reader of history and military fiction. He loved these novels. After the terrible five year wait between “A Storm of Swords” and “A Feast for Crows,” made bearable only by the fact that we came to the series two years after the former was published, my grandfather used to joke that at the rate Martin was writing, it was certain that one of them would die before the series ended. Six fricking years later without a novel, we don’t make that joke anymore.

It turns out that HBO turning the screws on Martin (at a book a season, he’s really going to need to pick up the pace lest they catch up with him) is sufficient to get him to finish the damned book that as early as six years ago he claimed was already done and only needed a few months to polish up. Well, it reputedly weighs in at a svelte 1200 pages and we’ve got a date that seems to be the actual date: July 12th.

Said Martin’s editor Anne Groell:

It is true. Kong is dead.

There were a few moments of George in a spare office yesterday, cleaning up the last bits and inserting a few new bits in longhand, while I typed the changes into the electronic files, but we are honestly and officially done.

And there is MUCH rejoicing!

Here’s the Amazon link for pre-ordering if you aren’t abjectly cynical. I might wait until the actual day to order it, but I can tell you one thing for sure: I’m ordering two copies.

(source: Blastr)









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Comments

Pre-ordered on my Kindle the first day it was available. I might actually fornicate with it when I see "A Dance With Dragons" in my booklist. Like, I will literally pull my dick out and try to shove it into my Kind---what in the fuck is that SMELL???? Holy tumbling christ, some dorfus just strolled past my office wearing perfume that's a combination of mothballs, wet dirt, ozone, motor oil and old people's used panties . . . Fuck! It won't go away! It's getting stronger! HOW THE FUCK IS THAT POSSIBLE?!?!?!? They walked by 4 minutes ago! What's the goddamned half-life of this shit??? If it's on par with uranium, Imma hafta quit my job, yo.

Posted by: Kballs at April 28, 2011 10:12 AM

I need help from a fellow Pajiban who knows the details of Amazon’s shipping. This book is coming out when I will be overseas. I’m trying to arrange my order so that Amazon ships the English version to where I will be staying. And before anyone suggests, I have no patience to wait until July 24, when I return, to read this book. I need it for the 10+ hour flight home. I’ve called Amazon and they were not helpful. So, has anyone ever ordered from Amazon and shipped it overseas?

Posted by: Scully at April 28, 2011 10:15 AM

I can't wait. As much as I have enjoyed the TV show so far, it wont compare to the joy I feel on July 12. I reckon I will read it and listen to the audio book immediately after I'm done.

I can't believe we'll be getting the first new Bran, Tyrion, Jon, Dany, and Davos chapters in over 10 years.

Posted by: Forbiddendonut at April 28, 2011 10:18 AM

I prefer the Wheel of Time. I mean they are both well written but with Ice and Fire I just can't seem to care about most of the characters. They are just kinda meh. And the world is also kinda just meh. Wheel of Time on the other hand is something I have really grown to love and yes I don't mind the length of the series at all. In fact I like it because it immerses me into the world even more. I don't care so much about the ending. I am more interested in the journey then trying to get as fast as possible to the ending

Not to mention that all cocks,rapes and whatever get a little boring soon enough. Sure the first time he uses these more adult themes you are thinking wow that's a hardcore fantasy but then it's get kinda dull


*waits to get cursed by the crazy fanboys*

Posted by: Minto at April 28, 2011 10:22 AM

The first two chapters (Jon & Dany, I believe) have been available on his site for a while now:

http://www.georgerrmartin.com/if-sample.html

Posted by: Scully at April 28, 2011 10:26 AM

Hardcover. Shove your e-reader up your arse, Kballs. Horizontally.

Posted by: admin at April 28, 2011 10:46 AM

Yeah. Martin had a Tyrion sample chapter up as well, I think. I didn't want to read them piecemeal like that. It would just make me want more, more, more...

Posted by: Forbiddendonut at April 28, 2011 10:46 AM

That's a great story about you and your grandfather! :)

1200 pages! YOW!

Posted by: logan at April 28, 2011 10:47 AM

You're lucky I was up late, Minto, else I'd spend an inordinate amount of time describing this knife that I would like to plunge into your esophagus even though it bears no relevance to the story overall.

Posted by: admin at April 28, 2011 10:48 AM

This post gave me a grin a mile wide and I'm still grinning!!! The day long dreamed-of has come at last, at last! Well, the day second-longest dreamed-of, anyway. The most dreamed-of is, obviously, July 12.

EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!

So excited!

Posted by: StoatCat at April 28, 2011 11:13 AM

Yeah, enjoy your hardcover, grandpa. What a loser! Hey admin, you suck!

Posted by: Kballs at April 28, 2011 11:14 AM

"I prefer the Wheel of Time." - Minto

I had the opportunity to meet Robert Jordan once. Literally, he was right down the hall from me and a mutual friend who knew i liked fantasy asked if i would like to meet him and get some books signed or something.

I replied, "Nah, I'm good," because unbeknownst to my friend, I had watched Jordan saunter down the hall earlier. He wore a top hat, monacle, white gloves and a crystal headed cane. He was the pimp to the nerds, squeezing out second rate, undercooked (underaged?) books cut up by a back alley plastic surgeon to slightly resemble Tolkien. It was all i could do not to rush into that room and choke him with his ascot. May he rest in peace.

So, nah, Minto, I'm good.

Posted by: Matty at April 28, 2011 11:15 AM

i like fantasy but resisted this for a long time, partly because i have grown to hate series. when i heard it was being made into an hbo series i thought i would read the first one but couldn't stop and read all the others, finishing about six months ago.

they aren't literature but they are a lot of fun. i'm so glad that i didn't have to wait ten years for more jon, tyrion, bran, etc. though i guess i'm waiting now. i do hope that the series proves successful and forces martin to finish it in the next few years.

Posted by: splinter at April 28, 2011 11:16 AM

I am hopeful that the delay betweens "Dance" and the next book wont be quite as long.

It's pretty clear Martin is having a hard time tying all of his threads together and getting things moving again. "Storm" was a natural breaking point for a lot of what the first three books had set up: mainly the war of the five kings. While there were still dozens of threads hanging, many were tied up.

He struggled mightily with "Feast" and since "Dance" is pretty much 1/2 of "Feast", I can see why he had similar similar problems. "Feast" is essentially a transitional book in which Martin has to set up all the pieces for the next big arch, which, I think, will be the whole R'hollor/Others/Dany/Jon aspect of it.

I imagine "Dance" will be more of the same, but zeroing in on the North and Dany as opposed to the Kingslanding, Dorne, and the Iron Men.

I think he had to go back and re-write a lot of what he thought he'd done. Remember, his initial plan following "Storm" was to have the next book start 4-5 years later. I'd imagine his decision to pick things up right after "Storm" changed things considerably.

Posted by: Forbiddendonut at April 28, 2011 11:26 AM

"I imagine "Dance" will be more of the same, but zeroing in on the North and Dany as opposed to the Kingslanding, Dorne, and the Iron Men."

I surely hope so. I can gladly do without Dorne and the Iron Men. (Though I do understand that importance of Dorne, as Lyanna's "kidnapping" is very important to the story. The Iron Men? Fuck 'em. I can't muster up any interest for the characters.)

Posted by: Scully at April 28, 2011 11:33 AM

The Iron Men storyline is one of the reasons I can't make myself re-read the last book before "Dragons" is released. It was so. Fucking. Booorrrrring.

Posted by: Kballs at April 28, 2011 11:42 AM

Yes, the Iron Men were not that interesting. None of them were all that likable or even terribly interesting. They are just irritating. Drowned God this. What is dead can't be killed that. Kingsmoot, Kingsmoot, Kingsmoot.

And while I don't mind the Brienne chapters, she doesn't have the most interesting perspective on things, and a lot of her stuff was unnecessary. I felt like we saw enough of the whole "war is hell on smallfolk" and "war ravages the land" stuff in the Arya chapters in "Storm of Swords." I didn't really need another half dozen or so chapters on the topic. I really liked where she ended up, back with the Brotherhood Without Banners. That scene in the cave with Thoros is one of my favorite in the book, but a lot was filler.

I liked the Dorne stuff.

Posted by: Forbiddendonut at April 28, 2011 11:54 AM

See i liked the Iron Men, but im totally biased in my unabated love for all things viking.

Posted by: Matty at April 28, 2011 11:59 AM

This http://i.imgur.com/5ql7q.png is why I will only believe he has finished it when I see it in a bookshop

Posted by: goon at April 28, 2011 12:06 PM

Okay, Minto, I'll bite since I'm currently in the middle of reading Jordan for the first time. Jordan is entertaining on occasion, but I have the exact opposite reaction: I don't care about his characters because I never believe that anything bad is going to happen to them - from what I've heard SPOILER even the one shocking character death he had has since been reversed END SPOILER - I think part of the intensity with Martin is that you don't really know who is going to make it, so it's all that more heartwrenching. Also, Jordan might not have many rapes, but his books are full of rampant misogyny - I think Martin is much better at writing women. Really, his characters have dimensions while Jordan's all have one defining characteristic, and in many cases, that characteristic is whiny and annoying. If it's a woman, add shrill to that.

Posted by: Jen K. at April 28, 2011 12:41 PM

I'm currently reading "Feast." I only started reading “A Song of Ice and Fire," because of the great things people said about it here. I'm glad I listened to you guys.

I really do hope that the book will come out in July. I'm not too worried about it, I have plenty of books to read before then including The Wise Man's Fear.

Posted by: Miss Heather at April 28, 2011 1:01 PM

Love both series but without a doubt prefer song of ice and fire, although the guy finishing the wheel of time series is a fav author of mine and he is doing a really good job with it

Posted by: Bones at April 28, 2011 1:42 PM

*WATCH OUT FOR SPOILERS*

I agree 100 percent with Jen K.'s assessment of Wheel Of Time/Jordan vs. ASOIAF/Martin. I've heard Wheel Of Time bounces back in quality, particularly with the new author, but at this point I'm not going back.

I'm looking forward to a return to the characters that have been in focus since the beginning, but I don't mind the Iron Men at all. Asha is cool. I liked the Dorne stuff as well; that scene between Oberyn and Gregor was a fantastic segue into that story.

Posted by: DarthCorleone at April 28, 2011 2:27 PM

All good things take their time. I agrre with those who have said that Feast/Dance were so hard to write because they are setting up the big confrontation at the end. Being a huge fan of GRRM I just hope he gets "The Winds of Winter" done faster and I pray for his good health every day. It would be a tragedy if we ended up with a Jordan situation after all this waiting. I also fear that GRRM has a very different writing style and that there would not be endless notes about where the story will end up left behind for someone to use to finish the series.

I also agree with Matty: Jordan has nothing on GRRM when it comes to characters let alone plot. I only go through the first 2 1/2 books before I quit. I was so tired of the old tropes revisited. Seriously these people were way too bland. Arya has more fire in her little finger than thatsupposed hero Rand.

Posted by: Phedre at April 28, 2011 3:33 PM

I just finished the most recent WoT book, Towers of Midnight. I had a really hard time getting back into the series with Sanderson at the helm, but I'll be damned, I really loved the last half of ToM. I feel like he got the essence of the characters back. SPOILERS: I will say that I knew that MD wasn't dead, and I knew that the 3 main characters were going to make it to the Last Battle...so I can see how WoT could lack the thrill of ASoIF for some readers.

Posted by: baboocole at April 28, 2011 3:36 PM

I would also like to say that Rand al'Thor wishes he was half as cool as Kvothe.

Posted by: baboocole at April 28, 2011 3:38 PM

Kvothe would wipe the floor with Rand al'Thor! Did I imagine things or did that actually happen during one of those Suvuudu cage matches?

Posted by: Phedre at April 28, 2011 3:40 PM

Robert who?

Posted by: FabMax at April 28, 2011 3:46 PM

I think Kvothe lost, actually. My money is on sabotage.

Posted by: Scully at April 28, 2011 4:17 PM

No believing before delivery.
Until then I'm over there with FyreHaar and the Chaos Walking Trilogy. Call me on July 12th or something.

Posted by: Rooks at April 28, 2011 6:02 PM

Feast For Crows SPOILERS ahoy: The Iron Islands stuff was painful reading..maybe Asha aside, and Aeron Damphair is Martin's dullest character. The Brienne stuff I liked, even if you know her quest is ultimately pointless. Her fight scene at the end of the book w/ Rorge and Biter was brutal as anything in the series. I felt so bad for her and I hope that "one word" she uttered saved her life from the hangman's noose.END SPOILERS

Just finished "Name of the Wind" w/ mixed feelings. Rothfuss paints a pretty interesting world, but Kvothe (at least his young version) is not likeable and the Denna stuff ground the proceedings to a halt. That said, the author largely avoids the cliches of the genre, and there's enough good stuff going on for me to read Wise Man's Fear next.

Posted by: stryker1121 at April 28, 2011 7:08 PM

I believe Martin found what Tolkien had found; that magic can permeate the novel, but it's best when used in small doses. The idea of magic fading or becoming superceded by another concept. Tolkien in turn, took this concept from the mythology of King Arthur, the idea that old magic was dying out in favor of a more 'pure' magic: Christianity. Tolkien's contemporary, Lewis found this, but chose to weave a lot more of the 'old' magic in and was certainly more a slave to allegory than Tolkien.

Martin also learned another of Tolkien's lessons; that having a gazillion names and places may initially confuse things, but they add a sense of realness to the place, to the people. You don't really have to know all of them to enjoy it, its like the clothing under the armor.

I wrote to his blog a long time ago, pretty much telling him "Ignore all the people yelling for you to finish and take your time to write the best book you can." He thanked me and I felt good. I still feel the same, but I do wish he'd finish the damn thing already.

Right now the problem is I can't talk to my daughter or any of the others who've read it because they haven't read ALL of them. My only advice is
!SPOILER!SPOILER!SPOILER!
Don't have a favorite
!SPOILER!SPOILER!SPOILER!

Posted by: Protoguy at April 28, 2011 9:55 PM

Semi-related tidbit: my wife was showing me Portlandia skits on Youtube, and I swear GRRM is in one of them. It's the one involving full employment by completing each other's sentences. Can anyone confirm whether that's him?

Posted by: russmunki at April 28, 2011 10:57 PM

This was posted on Martin's site today. I found this rather awesome.

http://www.georgerrmartin.com/if-update.html

Posted by: stryker1121 at April 28, 2011 11:12 PM

LAWL, he's wearing the same awful hat Martin wears, but I do not believe that's him. Too thin and his beard is as well.

Posted by: Protoguy at April 28, 2011 11:13 PM

Nice when the author finally confirms what the publisher has been telling us for a few months

Posted by: Protoguy at April 28, 2011 11:20 PM