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Uncertain Emotions Force An Uncertain Smile

By Cindy Davis | Posted Under Trade News | Comments (64)



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Years and years and years (yeah, I might be old) ago, Stephen King was one of my favorite writers. Carrie, Salem’s Lot, The Shining, The Dead Zone, Firestarter, Christine (not the Strawberry Girl), Cujo, Pet Sematary, The Talisman, Thinner, Skeleton Crew, It, The Eyes of the Dragon, Misery, The Dark Half, Needful Things, Dolores Claiborne, Lisey’s Story and Under the Dome (both read because of buzz that vintage King had returned; a lie), most of his short stories, one of the Dark Tower books and some of the stories he wrote as Richard Bachman — I read them all. I loved most of them and those I didn’t, I suffered in loyalty. But as with most King fans, I came to realize that things had become too formulaic and predictable, and what hadn’t, had gone off the deep end. I literally threw Lisey’s Story into an airport trashcan in disgust (normally I pass on or donate old books) and Under the Dome made me so mad I’ll probably never read a new King book again. But I have always wanted to read The Stand again, that and the Talisman. I enjoyed both of those to the point that his awful books almost get a pass because of them.

A favorite among most King fans, The Stand has always seemed beyond filmdom — un-doable. But then again, I’d say the same thing about The Dark Tower series and what do you know, it looks like they might actually pull that thing off (and with a big star).

On the positive front, King will be involved. Hopefully our good author will be able to influence his vision properly (this time); be involved in choosing a director he can work with and affect good casting for key characters (Timothy Olyphant = Randall Flagg). On the negative front, CBS holds the rights and essentially held a “bidding war” to determine a studio partner (Warner won). As with any book adaptation, readers will often feel no movie could ever live up to the book — with The Stand, those fears are multiplied because the story is vast, epic and there are so many important characters. A sad and inadequate television miniseries was made back in 1994; if anyone saw that version, it’s sure to have left a bad taste in his mouth. Still, if this project gets a visionary director who is willing to give it the time and attention it deserves, if there isn’t a rush and a push to spit it out as quickly as possible so the dough can be raked, there could be hope.

While I feel hopeful but uncertain, one thing I am sure of is that the Pajiba dream-casting-community will have opinions and we may as well start speculating right now. Half the country is snowed or iced in — what else do you have to do? Who should play Flagg, Mother Abigail, Larry Underwood, Nick Andros and Stu Redman (Andrew Lincoln!)? Any director choices?

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Comments

This movie is going to be 14 hours long.

Posted by: Parker Jammstein at February 2, 2011 5:04 PM

by 1994 tv standards, and by stephen kind adaptation standards, the stand miniseries was pretty good

Posted by: idleprimate at February 2, 2011 5:12 PM

I would watch all 14 hours of it.

Posted by: staceygarrett at February 2, 2011 5:13 PM

I have no opinion on the filmability of The Stand, but cheers for the The The quote.

Posted by: lorent at February 2, 2011 5:14 PM

Crispin Glover = Trashcan Man

Posted by: sansho1 at February 2, 2011 5:25 PM

You nailed it - The Stand and Talisman are the two best King novels (outside the Dark Tower series). I would nominate It for third place and put Desperation/Regulators in fourth.

Posted by: badkittyuno at February 2, 2011 5:25 PM

You know, King always had a bug up his butt on account of Kubrick allegedly raping his beloved The Shining. After much complaining he finally started getting his say(and unnecessary cameos) on TV/Film adaptations of his work, and guess what? We got poo such as Trucks, The Shining Mini Series starring that tool from Wings, and the supposedly sad and inadequate first The Stand miniseries. Maybe, just maybe, if King wasn't such a paycheck whore he'd take better care of his vision.


Posted by: BarbadoSlim at February 2, 2011 5:30 PM

I gave up on The Stand mini when, after 3 hours of waiting for shit to start, they were still introducing characters. I know it was epic, but still, throw a girl a bone.

Posted by: dahlia6 at February 2, 2011 5:30 PM

Ben Foster = Larry Underwood

Posted by: sansho1 at February 2, 2011 5:31 PM

I really liked Lisey's Story. It certainly wasn't anything I'd expect from King but I think that was part of what I liked about it. I'm still a big King fan but that book felt different in a very good way.

There is absolutely no way that The Stand can be made into just one movie. Doing multiple films doesn't seem like it could work really either and would depend on the success of The Dark Tower series/film project. Because if that bombs you know the studio will pull the plug on this idea in a heartbeat.

Posted by: Paultera at February 2, 2011 5:33 PM

Don't be knockin' that miniseries, yo. Corin Nemec and Laura San Giacomo were the balls.

Posted by: elguapo at February 2, 2011 5:35 PM

I nominate sansho1 for casting director. Those are both perfect.

Posted by: Paultera at February 2, 2011 5:36 PM

You thought my playing Anthrax the other day was just a whim. But I've got psychic DJ power just like Lady Miss Kier said.

Posted by: Jay at February 2, 2011 5:37 PM

I've always thought Clint Eastwood should be The Gunslinger. Now that he's much too old for the part, I throw my weight behind Viggo Mortensen for that role.
I agree with the Crispin Glover idea, that is pure genius.

Posted by: Satin at February 2, 2011 5:38 PM

Stu Arnett=Joseph Gordon Levitt

Posted by: Parker Jammstein at February 2, 2011 5:42 PM

I liked the mini series too, though I hadn't read the book at that point. I'd like to see it again. I really enjoyed the book, though less so the end.

I didn't like Under the Dome, it was pretty terrible.

Posted by: Carrie at February 2, 2011 5:48 PM

I was also going to nominate Ruby Dee for Mother Abigail, then I saw she played the role in the miniseries. But what the hell, she can reprise the role if she's up for it. I can't think of any other active African-American actresses over 80. Esther Rolle would have fucking killed.

Posted by: sansho1 at February 2, 2011 5:51 PM

Randall Flagg: Matt Ross or John Malkovitch-they both have those dead shark eyes
Mother Abigail: Whoopi Goldberg, provided she can recapture her "Color Purple" actressin' skills
Larry Underwood: John Hamm-handsomely aging, with a light topcoat of slease.
Nick Andros: Anton Yelchin or Jesse Eisenburg, they both seem to have the chops to act without speaking
Stu Redman: David Morse, if he were ten years younger; Daniel Day Lewis if I have to settle. I know, but if you don't like it, make your own damn list.
Harold Lauder: Paul Dano-I'm pretty sure he's secretly a serial killer.
Franny: Ellen Page. Done.

Posted by: Aratweth at February 2, 2011 5:57 PM

I hated the Talisman, but whatever. I don't think The Stand would work as anything but a miniseries.

But...I guess anything's better than Molly Ringwald butchering Frannie and whatsherface ruining Nadine. I need to forget that.

Posted by: Figgy at February 2, 2011 6:00 PM

I'm actually reading The Stand on my Kindle right now. It's my favorite King novel and I would love to see a good film adaptation.

I could see JGL as Nick. I'd like to see an actual musician as Larry (King wanted Bruce Springsteen)

Oprah as Mother Abigail?

Posted by: debbye at February 2, 2011 6:01 PM

I also second the nomination of Crispin Glover as the Trashcan Man, and submit Edward Furlong as The Kid. Just give Crispin some Oxy and Edward some Westcoast Turnarounds and let them loose on set.

Posted by: Aratweth at February 2, 2011 6:02 PM

I think Josh Holloway would kill as Larry. And Paul Dano as Harold is inspired.

Posted by: Figgy at February 2, 2011 6:04 PM

Mother Abigail would obviously have to be Ruby Dee.

Posted by: Todd at February 2, 2011 6:11 PM

I can't see it, myself - speaking as someone who's read the uncut version of The Stand, and who has fervently wished, over the years, for a much, much, much stricter editor for Stephen King, I actually wouldn't advocate enormous cuts to the novel and without them it'd be so difficult to make this into a remotely manageable length unless you go down the multiple films route. I agree with Paultera that if The Dark Tower business comes off then maybe ... but I have a lot of doubts about that, too.

I was also a huge SK fan in my teenage years although I've always felt that his '70s work is his best; I thought he lost his edge after he got sober and became a bit too preoccupied with his own mortality after his accident. Like a lot of people, I think the only person who seems able to make decent films of his work is Frank Darabont (I've forgotten who directed Misery but I'd include that as a good one) and I thought, personally, there were a lot of nods to The Stand in The Walking Dead ... and to that end, I'd rather see a new show like The Walking Dead than another adaptation of a novel published 30 years ago and already adapted once.

[Also, I think John Hamm is too old to play Larry. He's only meant to be in his early twenties, from what I remember. But don't ask me to cast it!]

Posted by: lingli at February 2, 2011 6:15 PM

OOOH! AMY ADAMS AS FRANNIE. Yes.

Posted by: Figgy at February 2, 2011 6:34 PM

@ Lingli;
It's very possible Hamm's too old, it's been years since I read the book, and I sometimes accidentally associate his character with Johnny Fontaine from The Godfather. They're both selfish, needy musical types.

Posted by: Aratweth at February 2, 2011 6:44 PM

Nichelle Nichols as Mother Abigail

Posted by: CurlieQt at February 2, 2011 6:47 PM

As soon as I realized that they'd combined two characters into one in the mini, I couldn't take it seriously at all. It totally annoyed me that they did that. And Jamie-what's-his-name that was Flagg was just wrong, wrong, wrong. So honestly, almost anything is going to be an improvement. (I did like Rob Lowe, though, if I recall correctly. And Matt Frewer was completely perfect for Trash.)

Anyhoo, mainly I wanted to say HOORAY! Someone else who loves The Talisman! That's probably my absolute favorite of his. Second is probably Eyes of the Dragon. Also, I loved the Dark Tower series, but haven't read the last three- I had to re-read the first four before I read those because there was such a huge amount of time in between 4 & 5, and I couldn't get through the first one. I loved 2, 3, & 4, though. So maybe skip the first one and see how you like the rest of the series.

Meanwhile, I guess I'm gonna hafta pull out The Stand, since it's probably been 15 years since I read it last....

Posted by: Anna von Beav at February 2, 2011 6:52 PM

Ever since the miniseries, I've been recasting this movie in my head. Here's my current cast.

Lucas Black as Nick Andros.
Michael C. Hall as Randall Flagg
Jeffrey Dean Morgan as Stu Redman
Alan Tudky as Tom Cullen
Loretta Devine as Mother Abagail (she's a bit young but she's great)

Gotta think about Frannie and Nadine.

The Stand is my favorite King book.

Posted by: Abby at February 2, 2011 7:00 PM

Doesn't Harold lose a lot of weight in the story. It is set over almost a year, isn't it? I'm sorry it has been so long since I read it. For that and other reasons I think it should be an animated series, (with good actual animation). The problem is that if it is successful, the producers won't want to end the cash cow, and would stretch it out past its actual ending.

Robert Duvall as Stu?

Posted by: Viking at February 2, 2011 7:06 PM

King being involved would be a good thing?

/raises eyebrow

You've forgotten Maximum Overdrive, haven't you? Repressed it. In denial of its very existence.

I fucking love The Stand - it and, um, It are his masterworks - and I'd love to see someone make a good film (or films) out of it, but I sincerely doubt that King himself is the man to do it.

And for my money, I think Cillian Murphy could take the role of Flagg and do things to it.

Posted by: Mario Speedwagon at February 2, 2011 7:20 PM

don't mess with my disco, Nadine!

Posted by: bel at February 2, 2011 7:22 PM

Larry Underwood is in his 30s. Remember, he resists taking responsibility because he'd been sort of shiftless for a long time, and Mother Abigail says that may make him a perfect leader, as the mantle is unlikely to go to his head as it might a younger man.

I love the idea of Paul Dano as Harold -- put him in a fat suit for the early scenes.

Posted by: sansho1 at February 2, 2011 7:25 PM

I had always wanted Tom Berenger as Stu, but...*shrugs* was thinking of re-reading it soon anyhow.

Yes re: JGL as Nick...watching Brick, you know that kid can face-act like a mug. Have to think on the others...

@von Beav: yes, Eyes of the Dragon and Talisman are some of my favorites. I adore the Short Story collection "Hearts in Atlantis" as well.

Posted by: anitra at February 2, 2011 8:14 PM

"The Stand" bored me to tears. I made it to the end where something FINALLY happens, but it put me off King for years.

Sorry. I'll slink back to my snowdrift now.

Posted by: , at February 2, 2011 9:11 PM

I got into Stephen King after watching the miniseries on the teevee, after being sooo confused as to what the hell exactly was going on and realizing that the book would probably explain it all a little better. Yes, I was 13 then, and, yes, now my name is Edwina and I am a King Groupie. I will read and enjoy most anything the man writes, though some are without a doubt better than others (Full disclosure: loooved The Dome).

The film versions have never really done anything for me, especially those made for network television. He creates so many foul-mouthed characters, how the fuck could the essence of any one of them be properly translated? I really feel that The Stand (my very favorite) would only get true justice as an hour-long show on HBO or Showtime or similar, with no less than twelve episodes. Though I would have to follow with Viking's worry that, if successful, the producers would flog it beyond the source material and straight into a pile of dead horse meat.

As for casting, having seen the miniseries before reading the book, I have to admit that Gary Sinise's face will always be Stu's in my head. And Ruby Dee will always be Mother Abigail. And as for Olyphant, oooh yes, cast him in something, opleaseopleaseoplease!

Posted by: Edwina the Magnificent at February 2, 2011 9:45 PM

Don't shoot me, but Nicholas Cage as Flagg. No one does crazy better.

Nadine is an interesting problem. It's easy to hate Megan Fox, but she couldn't act her way out of my basement dungeon. No... Let's go with Amy Adams. Yes, Nadine, not Franny.

How about Clarke Duke as Harold? Fits perfectly.

Rachael McAdams as Fran... Could work, and would certainly wash the Molly Ringwald out of my mouth.

Matt Damon as Stu. He can play a bit older, but still young enough for a little Fanny err Franny.

The dude who plays Beaver in "Greek" (Aaron Hill) would make a fantastic Tom Cullen.

Larry Underwood = Jared Leto?

Matt Frewer could just reprise his roll as trashcan man.

Paul Giamatti as Lloyd?

Nick Andros... Let's give him to Donald Glover (Community) because, why not.

Posted by: logar at February 2, 2011 9:54 PM

Oh, and thank you for reminding me to dust off my old Siouxie and the Banshees tapes.

Posted by: logar at February 2, 2011 10:04 PM

Over the years I've read nearly every single Stephen King book, and while I agree that some of them have been trash (Tommyknockers always filled this slot for me), others have been true masterpieces. While King sees "The Dark Tower" series as his magnum opus, I'm always going to say "It" was his greatest work. That and The Green Mile. Followed by some of his short stories- the man wrote The Shawshanke Redemption for crying out loud! It's not often I cry while reading, but when the Losers in It drift apart at the end I always lose it a little bit. Even after 7 readings.

Posted by: RyanH at February 3, 2011 1:00 AM

You know, Nic Cage as Flagg wouldn't be the worst idea in the world. Actually I think it's kind of inspired. The guy already looks insane, and he can act when he wants to. Nice one, logar!

I was also thinking of McAdams for Frannie. Either her or Amy Adams would be perfect, I think.

Posted by: Figgy at February 3, 2011 1:14 AM

I agree Cage would be a pretty badass Flagg but you'd have to cast the entire movie with relatively equal big stars otherwise the hype alone would overpower the rest of the story.

Actually, now that I think (read: drink) about it Randall Flagg should be either an actor that is fairly unknown or if it's a bigger name it should be someone that goes far out of their usual boundaries as an actor. For some reason I really think that for that part to work it should feel unexpected. Like Heath Ledger as the Joker level of surprise.

Posted by: Paultera at February 3, 2011 2:21 AM

How about Morgan Freeman in drag as Mother Abigail?

Ok Ok I'm sorry. I love that book, I just was thought hearing his voice in your head would be amazing.

Posted by: yocean at February 3, 2011 3:37 AM

Justin Bieber as Larry Underwood.

Posted by: Todd at February 3, 2011 9:34 AM

I really, really loved Duma Key. I don't think that book got anywhere near the praise it deserved. As for the Stand, Flagg needs to be played by Javier Bardem.

Posted by: Renegator at February 3, 2011 9:57 AM

Renegator, OMG get out of my head!

I was just thinking this morning that Bardem would be fan-fucking-tastic as Flagg!

Great minds...

Posted by: latvianluck at February 3, 2011 10:18 AM

See, I kind of loved the '94 version of The Stand. Part of that, of course, is my weird love affair with Gary Sinise, but I think that most of it is that behind everything that was wrong with the film, I always had the sense that they at least tried to keep the spirit of the novel. I also love Molly Ringwald. Blame being a child of the eighties and seeing too many John Hughes films.

The problem, I think, is that there is simply too much information to condense into a two, two and a half hour movie. It's like when I think of the fiasco that was the movie IT. The movie (except for Tim Curry, who I love and who might have managed to almost make me fear clowns) was kind of godawful...but with so very much to work with, is it that surprising?

That said, I think The Stand could be done...and I would more than likely go and see it. :)

Also, this: It's not often I cry while reading, but when the Losers in It drift apart at the end I always lose it a little bit. Even after 7 readings. Posted by: RyanH at February 3, 2011 1:00 AM

Yes. I just finished reading that book again, and that is always what gets me.

Posted by: elleyezee at February 3, 2011 10:20 AM

Leto as Underwood could actually work. If Glover was Andros that'd be funny as shit.
Clark Duke could work, but he'd have to go out of his comic comfort zone to pull it off.

Posted by: Parker Jammstein at February 3, 2011 10:41 AM

Right here goes...

Flagg - Garret Dillahunt, nobody does sincere and crazy better than him
Mother Abigail - Oprah-did you see her in Colour Purple?
Larry Underwoood - James Franco ain't nothin that boy can't do...
Stu Redman - Matt Damon, he is a plank of wood after all
Fran - Jennifer Lawerence - she was amazing in Winter's Bone
Harold - Paul Dano deffo
Nadine - Claire Danes ? Maggie Gyllenhal?
Tom Cullen - The Rock...

Posted by: Swe.Ge at February 3, 2011 10:44 AM

Oh Forgot Nick Andros - Scott Mechlowicz ain't seen him in a while...
Trashy? Ben Foster Oh Yeah

Posted by: Swe.Ge at February 3, 2011 10:51 AM

Josh Peck as Harold might work too...

Posted by: Swe.Ge at February 3, 2011 10:52 AM

Lots of excellent suggestions!

I would humbly submit Jim Carrey as Trashcan Man (or possibly even Flagg) and Ryan Gosling as Nick Andros.

Posted by: Young_Grandma_Ben at February 3, 2011 10:53 AM

Ben Foster could be great as Nick.

Posted by: Figgy at February 3, 2011 11:03 AM

Maggie Gyllenhal would be a great Nadine, good call. Come to think of it, Jake might make a good Nick Andros.

Posted by: logar at February 3, 2011 11:24 AM

Tom Cruise as Randall Flagg. I submit that nobody on this list does crazy like Cruise.

Posted by: La Femme Nikita at February 3, 2011 11:57 AM

Somebody in Hollywood reads Pajiba. I made a comment not too long ago about getting a proper The Stand adaptation and now... bam!

You're welcome.

Conversely, I'm sorry.

Posted by: RobP at February 3, 2011 12:30 PM

The fact that Stephen King wanted Bruce Springsteen to play Larry Underwood automatically disqualifies him as a casting director for anyone's movie of anyone's book, ever. He needs to stay far, far away from the moviemaking biz.

Speaking as a former fan, mind you, who is still scared of her own plumbing in the dark at 3 AM because she stayed up late reading It instead of studying for her world history exam, who thinks The Gunslinger was far better by itself, and who physically recoils at one recalled line from a short story ["Soooooo....niiiiice" if you must know.]

Posted by: Salieri2 at February 3, 2011 1:09 PM

I agree with Viking. I have thought for years that the only way to do the Stand justice is to do it animated.

Posted by: Alli at February 3, 2011 1:40 PM

I,ve always thought that Kurt Russel would be good as The Gunslinger. If you feel he's too old however, then I would go with Vigo Mortenson.

Posted by: Mr. Nice Guy at February 3, 2011 2:33 PM

The Stand as a movie is a lame, lame idea. It is too dense, too long, with too many characters.

It would be perfect as an HBO (or Showtime) series -- hat tip to whoever mentioned this first up above.

And I am firmly in the "The 1994 TV version absolutely sucked big donkey dick" camp. The only redeemable features were Gary Sinise, Corin Nemec (though his acting was sort of cringe-worthy, he looked the part, at least -- he could hardly be blamed for not starting out fat and getting thinner) and the kid who played "M-o-o-n, that spells Tom." I know I should know is name, he was a recognisable actor at the time, but I've forgotten him.

As for Molly Ringwald -- I know it wasn't her fault, but she was an abomination as one of my all-time favourite King heroines. She simply was everything Franny was not. Oh, I wanted to tear out my hair every tie she was onscreen; and she was SO unworthy of Gary Sinise's All Man Stu Redman -- especially because he was SO perfect for the role.

And let us not even get into how terrible Nadine was. Or how BADLY done the script was. The direction must be blamed for most of the overacting, I think, because there were some pretty good actors in most of the roles, but they just hammed it up BIG time and The Stand turned into a big pork sandwich. It was awful awful AWFUL . And the music sucked, too. Everything about it sucked. Down to Stephen King's obligatory fucking cameo. Someone PLEASE tell that man his writing is wonderful but his acting is HORRIBLE.

Posted by: Maryscott O'Connor at February 3, 2011 6:09 PM

I nominate Jason Isaacs (the British baddie in Mel Gibson's "The Patriot") for Randall Flagg. Dude radiates cold-blooded evil with his reptilian features. And since we're wildest dream casting, how about Oscar-nominee David Fincher for director? Last year, he made a movie about a rich nerd no one likes riveting. With all the diverse, epic and thrilling movies he's done, "Fight Club", "Seven", "Zodiac", and "Benjamin Button" among them, he most certainly can make a spectacular version of "The Stand", and King deserves royal treatment, no pun intended.

Posted by: Brian Kehinde at February 3, 2011 6:40 PM

Mila Kunis for Nadine.

Always felt that Nadine needed some weird-sexy vibe going on. Like totally hot but with something not quite right about her.

But frankly I'd love to see realtive unknowns for this. and really great cinematography.

And revamp the ending to get the ridiculous deus ex machina out of the picture.

Posted by: meh at February 3, 2011 7:00 PM

So I'd been racking my brain for a good Lloyd Henreid and bless Cindy Davis's heart, she even gives me a visual aid. Jackie Earle Haley would nail that shit to the wall! Now I can sleep. (And I know that there are no monsters under my bed and that if I keep my feet covered, they can't reach up and grab me...)

Posted by: Young_Grandma_Ben at February 3, 2011 8:35 PM

So many good ideas. I like Jim Carrey as Randall Flagg. I also think John Malkovich could do it justice, or even play Trash.

I got my characters confused before, I think Robert Duvall should play Glen Bateman, not Stu.

Alfre Woodard is kind of ageless, but with makeup she could be Mother Abigail.

Posted by: Viking at February 3, 2011 9:03 PM

Sofia Vergara as Nadine?

Posted by: Viking at February 3, 2011 9:10 PM