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Nobody Likes the Palins

By Dustin Rowles | Posted Under Trade News | Comments (132)



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In an effort to continue our mostly flame-free day here on Pajiba (!), I thought we could turn to something we all can agree upon: Our unanimous disdain of the Palins. Right? (Shaddup, BigTodd). Michael Murray will have more on Sarah Palin’s new reality show, “Alaska,” on Friday (no, I can’t wait, either), but for now, here’s a scene from the next episode, which airs Sunday on TLC.

What is it about this otherwise tender family moment over shotguns that makes my bile rise to the back of my throat?

In other Palin related news, I’m not following “Dancing with the Stars,” though it’s hard not to hear about the conspiracy theories that have allowed the untalented Briston Palin to remain on the show as long as she has. I doubt it’s as much a conspiracy theory as having the ability to marshal the votes of the entire Tea Party population of America. But that’s another story, one that the NYTimes is following very closely.

Anyway, did you folks hear about the 67-year-old Wisconsin man, so enraged that Bristol Palin continues to remain on the show, that he shot his television, turned his gun on his wife, and ended up in an overnight standoff with a SWAT team? Dude! (Source: THR)

He should probably watch himself, though. The Palins clearly have experience with firearms.









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Comments

i love the Palins they're such down-homey, real folks. when Sarah Palin was like, Oh, they're going to kill your grandmother in a death panel filled with rabid racoons, which I would have killed, I was all like THANK YOU HOT MOTHER OF SANITY!

Posted by: BigSuperasente at November 17, 2010 5:36 PM

"I love Sarah Palin. She seems like a really good mom so I'm sure she'd be just fine in the White House."

My cousin during the 2008 election. When ignorance meets naivete meets smug mother people.

Posted by: Courtney at November 17, 2010 5:37 PM

Don't retreat. Just reload.

Fuck I hate this woman. Hate her attitude. Hate her politics. Hate. Hate! HATE!!!

If she's in serious contention for nomination in 2012, I will rampage until there's nothing left of anything anywhere. Better the endless void than the endless stream of bullshit strewn from her brain cavity.

Fuck Palin.

Posted by: malikvlc at November 17, 2010 5:38 PM

Quit trying to oppress me Knowles!!

Your use of the word unanimous is erroneous, since at least one person the reads this and comments regularly likes her.

Posted by: BigTodd at November 17, 2010 5:40 PM

Democrats (I am one) are praying for a Palin candidacy in 2012.
Rand Paul will work as well.
Let the Loonies out of The Bin and allow them to parade their ignorance for all to see.
I welcome it and relish the thought.

Posted by: Spender at November 17, 2010 5:42 PM

The guy shot his television and then turned the gun on his wife because he doesn't like Bristol Palin?

Must have been an Obama voter.

Posted by: Allen at November 17, 2010 5:42 PM

Knowles? Really?

Yeah, Knowles, you sure are a shit-starter. And are you Beyonce's father?

Posted by: MM at November 17, 2010 5:43 PM

Is Paddy here with drinks? Because I'm not touching this without alcohol.

Posted by: Scully at November 17, 2010 5:49 PM

and everyone calls me a troll at least I don't write troll columns

still respecting Figgy's request... how long do I have to be nice Figgy?!?!

Posted by: BigTodd at November 17, 2010 5:49 PM

Just to make it interesting:

REALLY?

Posted by: MM at November 17, 2010 5:50 PM

Can't lie.
I'm not sure how she made it this far into the competition (I don't follow the show, but I air programs that include the voting results, so I'm somewhat familiar), and she can't possibly out-dance Jennifer, but I really haven't minded watching Bristol on the stage. She's cute.
And so is her mother. (sorry, I'm a guy...)

But that is where the attraction ends. Abruptly.
Looks aren't enough to get by on.
(...but I'm not a shallow guy.)

Posted by: Rykker at November 17, 2010 5:51 PM

I don't understand how even the most staunch conservative can see Palin as anything but the vapid fame whore she is. Is there nothing these people won't defend?

Obama has a knack for snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. Palin 2012 is the best thing that could happen to him.

Posted by: The Mutt at November 17, 2010 5:55 PM

This was the other Palin buzz yesterday, in case you missed it. I realize they are kids getting into a dumb internet fight, but Willow and Bristol don't come off as terribly classy.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/11/16/willow-palin-facebook-posts_n_784585.html

Bristol has since apologized, which I suppose verifies its authenticity.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/compost/2010/11/willow_palins_facebook_rant_--.html

Posted by: DarthCorleone at November 17, 2010 5:56 PM

I like Michael Palin...

Posted by: Simon at November 17, 2010 5:56 PM

Is Paddy here with drinks? Because I'm not touching this without alcohol.

I hear the train a' comin'
It's rollin' 'round the bend...

Posted by: Rykker at November 17, 2010 5:57 PM

seriously Knowles, what is wrong with you, you shouldn't site one particular indifidule on the sight if you don't want their to be problems. Im with ya BigTodd. PALIN 2013! PALIN 2013! PALIN 2013! shes going to rock barack HUSSEIN Obama.

Posted by: BigSuperasente at November 17, 2010 5:59 PM

Sitting next Rykker, what are we watching?

Posted by: BigTodd at November 17, 2010 6:01 PM

I got your back Scully. It took me a while to load up the shot glasses and spinach dip from the Prisco thread and haul them over here, but now I can officially announce that THE BAR IS OPEN.

Oh and it may be scripted, but you gotta love the fact that even the incredibly un-hip daughter knows it's embarrassing for a woman in her forties to be wearing prom hair. In day light. While pretending to do target shooting.

Posted by: PaddyDog at November 17, 2010 6:02 PM

oh is this one of them there flame wars people keep talking about?

*snatches the popcorn*

When does it start?

Posted by: BigTodd at November 17, 2010 6:02 PM

Hold up, BigSuper. Woul'dnt wan't you to misrepresent all y'all Big guys.

Total misuse of the Big Apostrophe, there. (reference: Oxford Comma).

"don't" should be "do'nt", and sofourth and somesuch.

Carry on, Wayward Son.

Posted by: Rykker at November 17, 2010 6:07 PM

Theory: Brandy got booted off Dancing with the Stars because America collectively remembered that the girl can't dance to save her life. The people's exhibit A: "What About Us" music video. There's a reason the vast majority of her singles were midtempo grooves or ballads: she can't move. She was literally carried by her partner through the competition but still suffers from a bad case of the stricken chicken and should be quarantined until the symptoms subside.

Posted by: Robert at November 17, 2010 6:09 PM

So it was Murray who drew the shortest straw ever and has to review the show? I confess, even if Palin were a pinko liberal Commie lesbian organic farmer who was dating Rachel Maddow, I couldn't stand more than 10 seconds of that voice. They should play her voice over loudspeaker in the Afghan caves. Bin Laden would surrender in ten minutes.

Posted by: PaddyDog at November 17, 2010 6:09 PM

At least Sarah Palin will survive when the zombies come. Well up until she runs out of bullets and daggers made from elk antlers. I imagine that's longer than most people who post on here would last.

Posted by: Dingle Berry at November 17, 2010 6:12 PM

Is Paddy here with drinks? Because I'm not touching this without alcohol.

"How's that hidey-seeky stuff workin' out for ya?"

Posted by: Rykker at November 17, 2010 6:14 PM

Re: Darth's link to the Palin family Facebook Freak-out.

Wow. You'd think Sarah would at least TRY to teach her kids how to spell. Oh, wait. She's the same down-home bumpkin that compared her butchering of the English language to Shakespeare.

Posted by: Paultera at November 17, 2010 6:15 PM

make them all go away - please - all shallow shells of people - go away palins go away - blow away

Posted by: mbolton at November 17, 2010 6:15 PM

Copy/Paste FAIL.

Should have been:
Bin Laden would surrender in ten minutes.

"How's that hidey-seeky stuff workin' out for ya?"

Posted by: Rykker at November 17, 2010 6:16 PM

oh a flame party is were bunch of people sit around talking shit about someone they don't know, hoping to get another person to argue with them. I get it now can I play too?

Posted by: BigTodd at November 17, 2010 6:18 PM

"Mom, take your prom hair and go home!"

Haha, that made me laugh. Oh, God, a Palin made me laugh WITH her. WHAT IS GOING ON??

Posted by: Dorothy Snarker at November 17, 2010 6:19 PM

At least Sarah Palin will survive when the zombies come.

Great. Another Scylla and Charybdis apocalyptic scenario to worry about.

Posted by: Wednesday at November 17, 2010 6:19 PM

Nope, we can't all agree on this. Not my favorite, not my least favorite.

But I really don't get all the sputtering hatred and uncontrollable bile that accompanies liberals' reactions to anything Palin.

Seriously? Calm the fuck down. She doesn't even hold public office, and if you don't like her for whatever reason you were told you shouldn't like her, at least employ a little sanity to keep from overreacting in such embarrassing fashion.

Honestly.

And yes Bristol is a bad dancer and she sure as shit better not beat the outstanding Jennifer Grey. However, I will not shotgun my TV. Probably.

Posted by: Parker at November 17, 2010 6:24 PM

wow Parker was that a voice of reason on here

Posted by: BigTodd at November 17, 2010 6:26 PM

Yeah, Knowles, you sure are a shit-starter. And are you Beyonce's father?

I think you posted into the wrong tab, that's another site.

Be careful, don't type angry.

Posted by: Jay at November 17, 2010 6:26 PM

Of course she'll survive when the zombies come. Her followers are a mindless mob of knuckle-draggers who advance themselves by sucking the humanity out of society. Zombies are her core demographic.

Posted by: PaddyDog at November 17, 2010 6:27 PM

Get ready for the "Bristol Palin puts Baby in the corner" headlines next week. It even borders on having a double meaning since Bristol is America's most famous teen mom (although a teen no longer as of a month ago), even if I'm not sure what putting the baby in the corner would mean outside the context of Dirty Dancing.

Posted by: DarthCorleone at November 17, 2010 6:30 PM

"At least Sarah Palin will survive when the zombies come".....perhaps. But if she does , it will be for the same reason that the ravenous brain munchers rejected Homer Simpson. She simply does not have that which they seek.

Posted by: Mark M at November 17, 2010 6:30 PM

yeah that bitch belongs in the kitchen! I mean what is she thinking having an opinion and all that! My oops I mean, Todd's dinner ain't going to cook itself!

Posted by: BigTodd at November 17, 2010 6:31 PM

Oh, hang on, that was not MM's mistake. But it looked real! Well done, that's hard to do.


The sight/site thing on the other hand, that's too obvious. I didn't start readin' here yesterday.


Posted by: Jay at November 17, 2010 6:32 PM

Ah. Now that's more like it. I have the burgers on the grill and I'm thinking about a shrimp boil for later. We're all out of jello shots (slow down Scully) but I can make Black Russians. In fact, you can see them from Palin's house.

Posted by: PaddyDog at November 17, 2010 6:35 PM

I am growing more and more convinced that BigTodd is not real and instead someone is working an elaborate practical joke at all of your expense. (and I encourage you all too bear that in mind next time you want to engage him on whatever tangent he is building on. The only winning move is not to play).

Having said that, I am glad I didn't have a beverage when he called Dustin "Knowles" because I would have done a literal spit-take at that. Figgy, I know we don't want to encourage him, but I nominate "Quit trying to oppress me Knowles!!" for ee.

Posted by: Yossarian at November 17, 2010 6:39 PM

What is it about his behavior that makes you think that he might not be real, Yoss?

Posted by: Rykker at November 17, 2010 6:49 PM

Yeah, Big Todd, I generally don't engage in or provoke political discussions on here, because I know it's a pretty liberal place. But a headline like that just screams to be disputed.

I appreciate good debate, but the tendency among most liberals to simply resort to insults makes it tough to have civilized dispute. Insults are the resort of those who can't actually debate intelligently. So it's usually not worth it, ESPECIALLY on a faceless forum. When there's a complete lack of respect for the person to whom you're speaking and your entire being just drips with disgust and disdain for you, it's difficult to talk about ideas, reality, and political theory.

Oh well. I love Pajiba. I just chimed in to say chill the fuck out.

Posted by: Parker at November 17, 2010 6:50 PM

Why can't Sarah be more like Nancy Pelosi? Then everyone would like her.

Posted by: James S at November 17, 2010 6:51 PM

*THEIR entire being...

Posted by: Parker at November 17, 2010 6:52 PM

Yossarian, what do I have to do to convince you that I'm real? I know it Rowles and Knowles. That was the insult/joke.

If you are going single me out for liking Mrs. Palin, and for being outspoken. you bitch about flame wars and then try to start one? Then you are no better than that fat fucking ginger on AICN.

I came here because I get tired of people who like smelling their own farts. I am trying to respect figgy's request to chill out, but entire threads are dedicated to goading me into a so called flame wars.

Posted by: BigTodd at November 17, 2010 7:01 PM

@Rykker

It's all just a little too perfect. It feels like satire. At first it was subtle, and mostly in the Pajiba Debates and Fox News posts. Now he is popping up everywhere and always presenting himself as the perfect foil to the prevailing liberal viewpoint of Pajiba. Yesterday he was telling us he has a dozen kids and doesn't believe in vaccinating them (just holistic medicine and the power of prayer). It's too perfect. He knows us too well.

@Todd

Oh, I got the insult/joke. But that's exactly my point. It was too good. You know us too well. You may not be Pookie, but you are someone. It was a good run, my friend. I respect the hell out of you for pulling it off like you did. Legendary. But the jig is up. I'm on to you.

Posted by: Yossarian at November 17, 2010 7:10 PM

Personally, I'm not offended by the Palin's new TLC show. On the contrary, I think that's exactly where they belong: next to Kate (sans Jon), the midget family and other reality TV "stars." Keep them there and away from the political arena.

All the Palins are is the Bubble Boy family who went into politics instead of science.

Posted by: Fredo at November 17, 2010 7:12 PM

Parker >> I resent your generalization about "most liberals." Ad hominem attacks are hardly exclusive to the left, and I have witnessed no evidence that it is a tactic more commonly employed by those with my political leanings. I probably could dig up quite a few attempts at my part for intelligent debate on the internet over the years that resulted in little more than name-calling at my expense that somehow inexplicably rendered my opponent the winner (at least in his mind).

Perhaps we react in an overly visceral manner to Sarah Palin, but you have to expect a few overreactions when the Republicans came so close to putting her a heartbeat away from the Oval Office. She's not your "least favorite," but were you honestly pleased with her as a running mate? Throw out these negative reactions - do you think she deserves the level of positive fervor and devotion that she continues to receive? Isn't it possible our reactions are also a response to her unearned widespread positive reception?

Posted by: DarthCorleone at November 17, 2010 7:13 PM

BigTodd, I can't say for certain, but I think Dustin's reference was his way of playfully jabbing you in the ribs. Or cup-checking you. I don't think it was malicious.

Now me on the other hand, I just want you to sharpen up your comments. The inane conservative regurgitations are comical (and do make you seem like a characture, so I can understand Yossarian's perspective), but coupled with your tendancy to utterly abandon the rules of grammar -- oh man, I think you're making my brain die quicker. Capitalize. Punctuate. Make it happen.

And just to give you some perspective, I don't think this "entire thread" was constructed to incite you. It was about the Palins, not about BigTodd.

Posted by: superasente at November 17, 2010 7:13 PM

not a dozen, 11, I said I prefer holistic meds, and prayer, but God made Doctors for a reason. I read comments for months before making a comment. The only thing you are onto is my left nut

Posted by: BigTodd at November 17, 2010 7:16 PM

I respectfully disagree superasente. Do you think to me your opinions sound like regurgitations directly from media matters and Huffington?

If it weren't directed at me then why are most of the comments calling me by name, waiting for the train? waiting for the flames? No I think it was directed at me hoping I'll get all twisted up so everyone can say "see he's the problem, aren't we all good lil drones!"

Posted by: BigTodd at November 17, 2010 7:25 PM

I too hate the assumption that because we loathe a fake hypocritical fame-whore that we must be liberals. I'm surely no conservative but liberals (politically speaking) have plenty of idiots of their own. If they didn't Palin's whole act wouldn't work as it does.

Todd, The only thing in this post that was about you was Dustin's recognition that you'd be the first one to differ at his comment about everyone hating Palin. Everything else is simply commentary on her TV show, which is what this site does. When Palin's inevitable "documentary" comes out (It's coming. We all know it) this site will review it and most likely bash the hell out of it.

Posted by: Paultera at November 17, 2010 7:26 PM

Do you really beleave that Paultera?

Posted by: BigTodd at November 17, 2010 7:28 PM

I...like...turtles. And Beer.

Posted by: Paultera at November 17, 2010 7:33 PM

Boy, politics never get boring.

Posted by: Jay at November 17, 2010 7:35 PM

The only thing you are onto is my left nut

Hey, Paddy, I'ma grabbin' the last beer out the cooler.
I'll buy if someone flies!

Posted by: Rykker at November 17, 2010 7:38 PM

Darth Corleone, I guess our experiences have been somewhat similar, yet on different sides of the never-ending argument. I hate debate that devolves into insult.

And I'll throw this one out to your question: I knew little about Palin when she was chosen as a running mate. But as I learned about her, her inexperience for the vice-presidential position was not in any way appalling. This sounds like sacrilege to many, but Obama's experience for the position of president was far scarcer. When putting their resumes side by side in an anonymous comparison, it's incredible that someone was able to ride good speechwriting into the most powerful office on earth. Politics aside - experience alone was actually a no contest, even if they were both going for the same position.

Death panels? Sounds extreme, dramatic words to stir people up. Donald Berwick? Has inferred this exact trend in healthcare rationing. And yet people think she's crazy.

Posted by: Parker at November 17, 2010 7:41 PM

Does anyone else think Ms. Palin has stunning legs? I'm stunned. Stunned, do you hear?

Posted by: superasente at November 17, 2010 7:44 PM

I've met her twice, she is sweet as all get out. And very stunning if I do say so myself.

Posted by: BigTodd at November 17, 2010 7:49 PM

Obama's experience for the position of president was far scarcer.

Do elaborate. Please.

Posted by: Paultera at November 17, 2010 7:59 PM

Paultera, he was a Senator for 3 years which I think he spent much of it campaining. Before that he was a community organizer, whatever that means.

Posted by: BigTodd at November 17, 2010 8:04 PM

I can make Black Russians. In fact, you can see them from Palin's house.

If Paddy's Black Russian comment doesn't get in EE I say we form an organization to refudiate the process. We can call it the EE party.

Posted by: Paultera at November 17, 2010 8:09 PM

BigTodd.

I am not American, but I like Americans.

If I had to describe my political leanings, I would consider myself fiscally conservative, but socially progressive. You likely will not understand what I mean by that solely for the fact that I am an Australian, and left and right don't mean here what they mean there.

I favour government regulation of corproate behavious because your country is an example of what goes wrong when no one holds bankers to account. I also understand that proper governance counters government power in these areas, so do not worry about Big Brother taking over.

I have no agenda, except to occasionally leave fairly whingey comments about how stupid political factions can be in the USA. And your retarded health system.

That is partly who I am.

Know this, when I tell you that those who like Sarah Palin without monster reservations (as in, she would be fun to shag provided we didn't discuss anything, or I would like to go fishing and only talk about fish, etc.) are fucking stupid.

She, whether by design or by nature, is the alter at which the USA is sacrificing its intelligence and the respect of educated people worldwide.

Ms. Palin actively particpates in the suppression of intelligence, and is the antithesis of what leading is supposed to be about.

As a military man, BigTodd (or figment of Jeremy Fox's imagination), you should know what it takes to lead, or even advise and commentate, effectively. I don't mean what it takes to be popular. I mean effective leadership. Unfortunately, Ms. Palin is a fucking peanut and supremely unqualified.

I don't read HuffPo, and eleven kids is too fucking many. Buy a goddam prescription for the pill.

Posted by: Peter G at November 17, 2010 8:09 PM

Rykker: we are running low. I have an oldbotyle of peach schnapps. That should hold us while Scully does z run to the liquor store.

Posted by: PaddyDog at November 17, 2010 8:11 PM

Peter G > Kenny G

Posted by: superasente at November 17, 2010 8:12 PM

Well, it's sort of hard to elaborate on a LACK of experience, but here are some thoughts...

Palin: 44
Obama: 47

Palin: served as mayor
Obama: served as community organizer

Palin: served as Governor
Obama: served as Senator

Palin: chair of Interstate Oil and Gas Commission, chaired Alaska Conservation Committee, chaired National Governors Association (NGA) Natural Resources Committee, passed two major pieces of legislation – an overhaul of the state’s ethics laws and a competitive process to construct a gas pipeline in her first term

Obama: wrote two autobiographies, no major pieces of legislation, worked with ACORN, a nonprofit group that was recently involved in the biggest case ever of voter registration fraud


I'm not saying I want Sarah Palin to be president. I don't. But no way was Obama more qualified through experience to hold the office. That's what I'm saying here, like or dislike.

Posted by: Parker at November 17, 2010 8:16 PM

Fillerup, Paddy, 'cuz Peter G has entered the game!

/Shaun of the Dead reference

Posted by: Rykker at November 17, 2010 8:17 PM

Hate the Palins? Nope. Wven at their worst (and as hilarious as that FB standoff was), I can’t muster hate for Bristol, Willow, Tripp, Trig or Panic. It’s hard enough to figure the world out as a kid in a regular family, much less as the child of a mother who uses you as a political prop in lieu of actual policy. As for the First Dude, he seems to be at least smart enough to keep his trap shut, at worst it would be largely guesswork or guilt by association.

Hate Sarah? Were she a threat then maybe, but her presidential prospects go down every time she opens her mouth. Don't take it from me: when the guy who masterminded 2 terms of GWB quits your corner, you’re pretty well running on empty:

http://mediamatters.org/blog/201011160004

It’s hard to imagine any powerbroker worth their salt suggesting a potential candidate open themselves up to a reality tv level of scrutiny. Usually the trick is masking the smell of their shit, not putting it on open display and telling passers-by it's sandalwood.

Posted by: Punxsutawny Phil at November 17, 2010 8:18 PM

Whoever said she's better on a reality TV show is right. She's a....personality. Grating, but to some people appealing I suppose.

But as the single most powerful person in the country? Seriously, there are hundreds and hundreds of people I could name who would be less frightening sitting in the Oval Office.

For someone to even vote for her for president would be an insult and an affront to the office itself. It is a MASSIVE responsibility, and that's an understatement. This woman quit in the middle of her stint as a state governor! She doesn't even say things that mean anything, they're just like...word droppings. You could literally just do a mad lib thingie and have a Palin speech. America, troops, the America I love, faux indignation, folksy saying here, hint that I'm being victimized by someone or something here, aren't I great because I didn't abort my special needs baby, you get the idea.

No, we had quite our fill of having a complete idiot in charge a few years back. We're still recovering from that. We don't need to go backwards. The president needs to be smart, knowledgable, diplomatic but firm when need be, steadfast, something far, far more than an empty suit, which is all Palin is.

I mean, look at how much good she did the McCain ticket!

Posted by: Snuggiepants at November 17, 2010 8:18 PM

"I've met her twice, she is sweet as all get out. And very stunning if I do say so myself."

Posted by: BigTodd

So what you're saying is, you feel she's adequately qualified to be POTUS because you want to fuck her?

While I don't think it's true that "Nobody Like the Palins", I think it's pretty easily demonstrated that (former) Governor Palin's profile far outstrips her actual popularity. Recently, among Alaska Republicans, she polled behind Huckabee, Gingrich and Romney. And in this CBS News poll,

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20018819-503544.html

she has only a 22% approval rating.

So I don't know why I'm talking about her. Therefore, I'm getting a drink, and watching a movie.

Posted by: Groundloop at November 17, 2010 8:22 PM

Oh, Parker.

I heard all that mess during 2008. During the RNC, Obama was openly and repeatedly made fun of for having been a community organizer in Chicago, working with some of the poorest families there.

Great thing to make fun of. Turned off a lot of people right there. Every time they hold an RNC, they fuck up. (Hello, 2004 and Purple Heart band-aids! I'll never forget that insult as long as I live. Neither will my husband. My Purple Heart Vietnam vet father in law stayed home that year rather than vote, and he was a lifelong Republican. GOOD JOB!)

Palin quit on Alaska. That's just embarrassing. And her level of knowledge on even the simplest of subjects is cringe-worthy. Obama? A former constitutional law professor. Hell, all you had to do was listen to each one of them speak off the cuff on ANY subject and you knew whose brain was working and full.


Posted by: Snuggiepants at November 17, 2010 8:23 PM

she is sweet as all get out. And very stunning if I do say so myself.

I hear this is why McCain picked her as a running mate. 'Cause everyone knows his skinny old-man legs and cantankerousness could only pull in 237 electoral votes, on a good day.

Posted by: Wednesday at November 17, 2010 8:24 PM

PeterG, I get what you are saying as far as fiscally conservative and socially progressive I too saw the world that way, but life happened. And my views changed. I never said Mrs Palin would be the best President, however she is a very charismatic leader and inspires many people. And if it sacrificing our intelect, in the worlds eyes, to want to rely on the Consitution upon which the country was founded then sign me up. Bigger Govt is NEVER the answer, ever.

11 is the right number for me, I'm not on welfare, matter of fact I pay taxes for schools I don't use. Me and mine volenteer all the time to help those that don't have it half as good. I teach them Charity starts at home.

Posted by: BigTodd at November 17, 2010 8:25 PM

Um, sorry Snugglepants, but I wasn't making fun of community organizing. It's a comparison of executive experience.

Obama's speechwriter is terrific. Off the cuff, he's not so eloquent.

The guy actually thought he'd been to 57 states in the US. That made me a cringe a little.

And he wasn't a law professor. He was a lecturer. There is a difference.

Anyone mention Biden as a vice-presidential fool? As long as gaffes of epic proportion are on the table, maybe it's a fair comparison...

I just think the "Palin is stupid" is a bit overplayed. Our current vice-president can't seem to keep his foot out of his mouth, but no one freaks out about that.

Posted by: Parker at November 17, 2010 8:31 PM

Snuggiepants, I know I'll be excused of regurgitation but Obama can't speak without a teleprompter nearby

Posted by: BigTodd at November 17, 2010 8:32 PM

He may not be real, but he is still entertaining.


Mrs. Snuggiepants? May I be excused of regurgitation?

Posted by: Yossarian at November 17, 2010 8:35 PM

I'm dyin' over here...

Posted by: Rykker at November 17, 2010 8:38 PM

Charismatic is not a qualification for president.

It's not even a qualification for teacher. I know a few teachers who are so damn charismatic, their kids would follow them out the building where ever they led, like the Pied Piper. But they can't teach the actual content for shit because they don't understand it very well themselves. They often remind me of Palin.

(And you are using your local schools, even if you aren't currently sending children there. How? Well, there aren't thousands of feral illiterate children roaming the streets all day because they aren't being educated, right? Then I call that a win and the schools are working for you, educating your future fellow community members. There's a bigger benefit than just the one under your nose, is what I'm saying.)

Being president isn't being beauty queen popularity princess. It's so so very much more than that.

Why are we talking about this woman again? I feel like Groundloop up there has the right idea.

/off to mix a drink

Posted by: Snuggiepants at November 17, 2010 8:41 PM

I love the teleprompter insult. It's so representative of how forgetful people are. Just because someone in the news pointed it out and tried to make it an insult you actually believe that he's the first president to ever do so. This is exactly what I'm talking about Todd when I say that your arguments are based on anything but fact.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-4848259-503544.html

Posted by: Paultera at November 17, 2010 8:43 PM

For Parker to read: http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/was_barack_obama_really_a_constitutional_law.html

If the University of Chicago says so I'll take their word at it, how's that?

Gaffes? Everyone makes gaffes. EVERYONE. Queen Elizabeth II is one of the most careful speakers I have ever heard and has made verbal mistakes a time or two. They're rare, but they happen even to her.

No, I was talking about intelligence and knowledge (which, of course, are different things). And yep, I'd pit Biden against Palin any day. I'd pit nearly anyone against Palin. She's one of those "not the sharpest knife in the drawer" people, God love her. She's in good company, I mean a lot of people aren't too sharp. But I don't want them in any position of power or leadership, either.

BigTodd I honestly don't know what it means to be excused of regurgitation. I really don't, no joke. I think the teleprompter thing (never understood why that was a big deal, either) got answered by someone else.


Posted by: Snuggiepants at November 17, 2010 8:51 PM

You arrange the Biden-Palin showdown. I will be in the front seat. With popcorn. Biden is a walking gaffe. We generally call that fool. I don't think it's stupid people in power you don't like. I think it's people you consider stupid who also don't share your political views. That's fine. Just the level of indignation is amazing.

Vote for Jennifer Grey.

There. I fixed it.

Posted by: Parker at November 17, 2010 9:00 PM

Nope, I dislike stupid people in my own party EVEN MORE. They REALLY piss me off. (I'm thinking of some local people who have run for state office, good Lord.)

Again: gaffes are not the same thing as intelligence or knowledge. And there was a showdown between Biden and Palin: the 2008 debates. I could very easily tell which person knew what they were talking about and said things of actual substance and which person failed on both counts (the latter would be Palin).

Posted by: Snuggiepants at November 17, 2010 9:21 PM

Come on, Pajiba! When is enough enough? Can't you block BigTurd's account already? Yeah, yeah... differing opinions are good and stimulate debate and free speech and blah blah blah...

We are not dealing with that. We are dealing with an insane troll with INSANE TROLL LOGIC.

Seriously, his logic is happenstance, like that of a troll. TROLLLLL

Fuck you, BigTodd. Find a new website.

Posted by: Vince Noir at November 17, 2010 10:18 PM

Vince Noir has the right idea. Enough is enough.

Posted by: RC at November 17, 2010 10:41 PM

When, exactly, did we become a country that wants "Joe 6-pack" (does he have nice abs, or is he an alcoholic??) to lead us: "the guy we want to have a beer with." When exactly did we decide that the president should NOT be extraordinary? I do NOT want the charming car-salesman to run this country. I do NOT want the down-to-earth beauty queen with less education than my middle-school aged niece to be the president.

I want someone with intellect, curiosity, drive, passion, AND charisma to be the president.

FUCK your notion of "Palin has charisma." Fuck it right in the shotgun hole Cheney just ripped into her spleen.

Oh, and I have NEVER been to the Huffington Post. So fuck you too.

Posted by: Vince Noir at November 17, 2010 10:48 PM

May I just take a moment away from the ... debate to go back to the picture of Bristol above?

She's like some G-rated dominatrix, "Behold, I will blind your eyes with my black granny panties, and you will FORGET that I cannot dance! mwa ha ha"

"I will show you my sexy kneecaps and you will faint with desire!"

"Don't even think about fucking me or my mother will have to refudiate you till you beg for mercy."

Posted by: mswas at November 17, 2010 10:58 PM

omgomgomg I nearly spit my hot chocolate out all over my new laptop!! Even when BigTodd's trying to sound smart, he will... (wait for it)

FAIL!!!

I don't know who the hell Yossarian is, but I nearly regurgitated Starbucks and I'm gonna need Snuggiepants to excuse me

*bellylaughingrollingonthefloorzomgfuckinass*

Posted by: LargeRestInPeace at November 17, 2010 11:03 PM

Aw, am I the only one who likes BigTodd? It's about time this place got riled up and bitchy again.

(Plus it's like he's that Jim Bob Duggar guy. He's got 17 kids. Best get a move-on, Todd.)

Posted by: TWoP_Fan at November 17, 2010 11:13 PM

This was the most bizarre thread ever. It is like a time machine to 2008.

Posted by: ERM at November 17, 2010 11:15 PM

My first gut reaction was I don't "hate" Sarah Palin, but after giving it a lot of consideration, I really, really, really, really, really dislike her. She is just the antithesis of everything I would consider a qualified elected official, of any level. Under any other circumstance, she would just be like one of the drones in my mom's local county Republican's ladies auxiliary. And that's what bothers me so much, she is no more qualified to lead a country than my mother. She might be well-meaning, but terribly, terribly wrong.

Okay, the Nyquil is kicking in. The combination of that and the boxed wine should be enough to kick this flu. Sorry I won't be awake to read the rest of this flame war.

Posted by: Austin asking for trouble at November 17, 2010 11:22 PM

I've been visiting here since shortly after the site was arrested for being communist or something... right about the time one of the staff here went off on Perez Hilton, and I knew I had found a group of people I would enjoy reading. HOWEVER! It seems almost every comment section, no matter the topic, has degenerated into the bigtodd show and it's getting really fucking tedious. I don't care if he's real or not, he derails every god damn thread he posts in and it's gotten old. *futile rant over*

Posted by: snapnhiss at November 17, 2010 11:25 PM

I think Palin was picked as vice-president candidate as assassination insurance, like Dan Quayle. I don't think even John McCain thinks she would be the best the Republican Party has to offer in 2012.
As for the reality show, why not? Gotta be better than Jersey Shore. Not that it matters to me, since I don't watch TV anyway.

Posted by: Pat C at November 17, 2010 11:35 PM

ERM: " It is like a time machine to 2008"

Or 2012.

Posted by: Pat C. at November 17, 2010 11:36 PM

Charismatic is not a qualification for president.

By: Snuggiepants

It is not alone a qualification for president. But, do you know what charismatic is a primary qualification for?

Cult Leader. Koresch, Jim Jones, that Heaven's Gate guy? All charismatic, all enigmatic leaders.

Posted by: Melody at November 17, 2010 11:58 PM

@ Pat C.

Well I think Obama will win the "who has more experience" argument in 2012. 4 yrs being president versus Fox pundit (I don't watch fox news so maybe I'm incorrect that she is currently a pundit).

Posted by: ERM at November 18, 2010 12:09 AM

I wandered back over here, but perhaps the conversation has died down. Anyway, Parker, most of what Snuggiepants has said represents my position in comparing Obama to Palin, particularly the comment about listening to the two of them talk, whether they are on their respective teleprompters or not. It's true that he did not have the executive experience that she did (that she would later quit, as mentioned several times above), but it is blatantly obvious to me that he is not only vastly more intelligent than she is but also much more measured and considerate in his decision-making. Obama is much more likely to see the grays of this world and to approach issues with humility. Those are qualities that I consider extremely important for a chief executive who must deal with an increasingly interconnected global community.

The very idea that the "57 states" gaffe is some sort of credible measure of Obama is laughable. Try having every single word you ever speak put under the level of scrutiny that a Presidential candidate must endure. I'll take the cringe-invoking moment of the 57 states misspeaking incident one hundred times over before I'd ever stomach that video of Sarah Palin confronting the teacher over her "worst governor ever" sign.

The thought of her in the Oval Office is simply terrifying to me, and I don't think that is an overreaction.

Posted by: DarthCorleone at November 18, 2010 12:29 AM

/sees thread
//shakes head
///walks out

Posted by: Fredo at November 18, 2010 2:21 AM

I think I like superasente again.

Posted by: Peter G at November 18, 2010 2:28 AM

Oh you Americans!
I´m not even bringing popcorn for this one, I´m slow-roasting a chicken and jerking of a little.
Good luck...

Posted by: UncleKaiser at November 18, 2010 3:02 AM

Whenever this woman opens her mouth she subtracts from the sum of human intelligence.

And Christine O'Donnell's no better.

Posted by: The Wanderer at November 18, 2010 3:55 AM

The pure hatred for anyone on the right when reading Pajiba is just scary. I like the site, but it gets to be to much at times.

Its not even, I'm right, they are wrong. Every single political debate turns into the other side being at very least stupid and more offen its closer to calling them evil.


Posted by: Silchas Ruin at November 18, 2010 4:30 AM

EXCUSED OF REGURGITATION: The rare respite from vomiting after a night of serious drinking. Usually accompanied by spinning rooms and a flushed face.

Man, I drank 47 shots of Patron last night but was miraculously excused from regurgitation. I did, however, hallucinate like a motherfucker.

Posted by: Kballs at November 18, 2010 8:07 AM

Anyhoodles, I thought this site reviewed film and television. I want more "scathing reviews, bitchy people" and less "political commentary from the left, with film and book reviews" as it now says when I search it. No matter where you stand on politics, these articles are only meant to instigate word wars. So in this case Mr. Rowles you are the troll as BigTodd said. Now be a good little reviewer and go see some movies and watch a little more t.v.

Posted by: Dingle Berry at November 18, 2010 8:33 AM

You all are worried about an idiot with no executive experience possibly taking control of the office of the president, yet conservatives are currently living that exact fear through Obama/Biden.

Irrationality, thy name is Palin-haters. Seriously, what are you worried about? A woman who is all noise, sound, and fury, that in all likely hood will amount to nothing?

I mean, clearly nobody likes her (which is why she pretty much routinely outpolls the current seated president.)


But since most of you on this site have grafted yourselves human-centipede style to Obama's proverbial teat, I guess I'm just pissing into the wind here.

Posted by: Some Guy at November 18, 2010 8:41 AM

Nobody likes the Palins (except the 5 million who tuned in for her first TLC show).

The irrational hatred for Palin which began approximately six seconds after she reached the national stage says more about the haters than Palin.

She doesn't share your views! Ooooh! She won't go away! She's shrewd enough to leverage her fame and social media reach to influence the masses! Release the hounds.

Posted by: Christian Toto at November 18, 2010 8:55 AM

Sarah Palin quit her elected job to make money. Hard choices...

Posted by: vllach at November 18, 2010 9:01 AM

Cthulu/Nyarlarthotep in 2012. When it comes down to it, there really is no other sane choice.

Posted by: TylerDFC at November 18, 2010 9:02 AM

Still.

Still?

STILL?!

/throws up hands and storms out

Posted by: Mrs. Julien at November 18, 2010 9:06 AM

She has an approval rating of 22% among Republicans (today, ABCnews, Political Hotsheet).

Let's go back to ignoring her.

Posted by: Snuggiepants at November 18, 2010 9:30 AM

Wha te fuuuuucks goin on ere? Did I misssss th fighh? Fuuuuckin ello shots. Imma goin back t sleeeep.

Posted by: Scully at November 18, 2010 9:41 AM

I can't believe I read the whole thing...

Anybody who says Palin's poll numbers are better than the President's is delusional. How is polling in the 20-30% range better than polling in the 40-50% range? That's apolitical. That's objective reality.

(Also, if we're using TV ratings*, any one of Obama's primetime addresses reaches more eyeballs than any one of Palin's appearances on Fox News or her show on TLC.)

* Let's not use TV ratings to make our points. We have no idea why people watch these programs, and there's no value assigned to support/schadenfreude, so it's an empty number. People like watching, but is it because she's inspiring or a train wreck? Ask the the Jersey Shore producers why people watch their show, then ask if they care.

Levi Johnston/Tre Name Redacted in 2016!

Posted by: RobP at November 18, 2010 10:44 AM

wow and people call me a troll? and this is what you call a flame war? multiple people pointing out a typo? what a buncha pansies. If you really wanna see a flame war I'll show you one.

Posted by: BigTodd at November 18, 2010 11:05 AM

Bring it, bitch.

Posted by: Rykker at November 18, 2010 11:07 AM

Terriers is crap, Daniel Criag is a sissy bitch, Obama is nothing but a puppet for George Soros, and aicn has better reviews.... that should start some shit

Posted by: BigTodd at November 18, 2010 11:31 AM

Big(re)Todd - You really make a very good case against Palin. How did you get your foot in your mouth and you head up your ass at the same time? Impressive.

Posted by: sosumi at November 18, 2010 11:35 AM

I paid you mom extra to help me sosumi

Posted by: BigTodd at November 18, 2010 11:41 AM

Okay, I've got to say it...BigTodd, for a guy with 11 kids and 2 jobs, how in the hell do you have all this spare time to hijack every motherfucking thread on this site?

Posted by: Jadine at November 18, 2010 11:46 AM

I don't hijack them all but if I really wanted to I could.

Posted by: BigTodd at November 18, 2010 11:52 AM

Has anyone else noticed that Barbado Slim has been absent of late? Other than the word "Dude" (twice) on the RR RIP thread yesterday, he's been quiet. Too quiet. Ominously quiet. I trust you can see where I am going with this...

Posted by: Mrs. Julien at November 18, 2010 11:58 AM

Someone teach me how to do a heart HTML tag. I need to offer one to Rykker.

Posted by: Mrs. Julien at November 18, 2010 12:01 PM

I ♥ Rykker.

TA DA!

Posted by: Mrs. Julien at November 18, 2010 12:01 PM

So I've gone from being Pookie to Barbadoslim? not only are you pansies but you are nitwits too.

Posted by: BigTodd at November 18, 2010 12:02 PM

Oh, DAYIM! Did he just call everyone nitwits and pansies?

You just got Sorved nukka!

Posted by: BigT's Posse WhatWhatIntheButt at November 18, 2010 2:16 PM

Sarah Palin quit her elected job to make money. Hard choices...
Posted by: vllach at November 18, 2010 9:01 AM

Boy, you libtards wouldn't know the truth if it came up and bit you in the ass. Palin was saddled with 500K in personal debt caused by having to defend herself against frivolous ethics complaints and lawsuits. Taking money from the state to defend against those bullshit complaints would have violated state law. She had a choice of going broke or leaving office.
I'm surprised nobody is making fun of her down syndrome kid like they did during the election.

Posted by: Common Sense at November 18, 2010 2:17 PM

Okay, Bristol made my weiner wiggle a bit by telling her mom to "take her prom hair and go back home."

Posted by: JapJay at November 18, 2010 2:53 PM

*Comes inside, stumbles over detritus.

Shit, did I miss a party?

*Shambles off to drink alone.

Posted by: leuce7 at November 18, 2010 3:49 PM

This guy, Mr. 67-year old Wisconsin Man, should be the hero of the week. Too bad he didn't have a catchy phrase like "Don't taze my junk bro" or whatever. Did you see that mugshot? Classic star hero material.

Posted by: IneptFake at November 18, 2010 4:00 PM

And there was BIG cash to be made NOT being governor, oh yeah, you BETCHA!

She's a quitta!

Posted by: Snuggiepants at November 18, 2010 7:03 PM

quitta or not, she is a bigger success then some loser making judgments about her, jealous much snuggie?

Posted by: youbetcha at November 18, 2010 11:56 PM

From a swedish POV:

I like how it´s a given fact that MAYBE Palin can be president of the US..."land of the free, and all that other crap"
She´s charismatic!...even sexy?
She has a chance!
Not on this site of course...but nevertheless...

Vladimir Putin would shit in his pants LITERALLY if you send that woman...And then eat her alive(maybe literally?)
U.S have power over the world(wether you like it or not)...pls don´t send Palin to us...PLEASE?

Posted by: UncleKaiser at November 19, 2010 2:49 AM

It looks like everyone's already packed up the box-o-wine and moved on, but I'm just going to throw in my two cents.

Liberals don't "hate" Sarah Palin because she's ignorant, smug, uncompromising and wants to take this country back to the 1950s- we hate her because she has all those undesirable traits and there are a lot of people who love her for it.

Ignorance, when perpetuated and encouraged, can be dangerous. The mob mentality and willful blindness of her supporters frankly scares me because when people get to the point where their minds are completely closed and there's no room for reason or logic, that's when bad stuff happens. She caters to peoples' prejudices, fears and backwards ideologies and gets them so riled up that they'd follow her over the edge of a cliff, taking the rest of us with them. Who cares that she's charismatic; so was Hitler.

I'm totally fine with her spouting the stupid all over Fox News and swirling the same drain as Glenn Beck and O'Reilly, but the fact that she wants go so far beyond that realm of influence, hitch the entire U.S. to her right-wing wagon and drive us back to the stone age...that is unacceptable.

Posted by: Dingles at November 19, 2010 9:06 AM

the Palins,.....are a joke! their nothing but publicity stunt,....no way in hell,...can that stupid retard of a woman , even comprehend what it would take to be in the white house,....more less,...be in a outhouse. all you tea party members are a bunch of losers ,....and you all need to get a life,..intead of keeping your head up the palins ass,......I seriously feel sorrow for the burden that brisko,..must endour being the daugther of that crazy stupid woman and a teenage pregnancy statistic ....they all need to go back to Alaska and if they are what alaska produces,...I am seriously sorry for the state of Alaska,....state of idiots...

Posted by: Diego at November 22, 2010 10:10 PM