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Why Ben Affleck As Batman Doesn't Matter, And Why You Should Shut The F*ck Up About It

By TK | Think Pieces | August 25, 2013 | Comments ()


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I’ve got two words for you: Michael Keaton. Remember? Almost 25 years ago, when Tim Burton’s Batman came out, fans screamed for blood at Keaton’s casting. So how do you like them apples?

No? OK, two more words for you: George Clooney. When Clooney was cast, people praised Jesus. The franchise would live on and live well. Except that Clooney was horrible. OK, so how about this: Hugh Jackman. When Jackman was cast, he was basically a no name. He was too tall, too unknown, not built enough, not mean-looking enough, not… Oh, right. Jackman has actually been pretty great as Wolverine (even in the really bad movies).

In that case, let’s talk about two more words: Ray Stevenson. Who? What? Stevenson should have been, for all intents and purposes, perfect as The Punisher. Except not. Eric Bana? Great actor, terrible as the Hulk. Wesley Snipes? Mediocre, one-note actor, amazing as Blade. Chris Evans? Horribly miscast as Captain America, except for when he was actually pretty great as Captain America. Scarlett Johansen? Terrible for Black Widow, until we saw she was a great Black Widow. Sean Connery? Perfect for the part of Allan Quatermain. And by “perfect,” I mean “career-endingly horrific.” Jessica Alba as Sue Storm?

Uh, maybe we should just all agree to never talk about that.

What am I telling you? I’m telling you all to kindly shut the f*ck up about Ben Affleck. I know, I know. I do it too. I rant and rave and bitch about casting like it’s my job, partly because, well, it’s my job. But this has been different. This… this past few days have been madness. As of the time I’m writing this, there are 106 comments on the trade news post we did on the Affleck-as-Batman announcement, and roughly 104 of them are people wringing their hands as if Ian Ziering had been cast. Within 24 hours, there were petitions. Petitions! Oh, and enough with accent jokes. You guys know that Affleck doesn’t actually have a Boston accent, right? He was born in California and grew up in Cambridge, around the corner from Harvard University. He went to private school. He’s about as South Boston as Thurston goddamn Howell.

Anway. What makes this sillier is that Affleck is a capable actor, in good physical shape, sufficiently mature, tall, handsome, you name it. Yes, the pick is a bit… pedestrian. Not particularly risky. Maybe even boring. But if you’re expecting risky casting out of a Warner Brothers comic book film, you might be a little crazy. It’s not their strong suit. He’s a safe pick. He could be great. He could be… less than great. There is literally no way of knowing.

Daredevil, you say? LOOK WHAT HE DID TO DAREDEVIL! My response? Shut the f*ck up with your Daredevil. That was 10 years ago, and Affleck has matured significantly since then. Not to mention that if you think that Daredevil failed because of Affleck, then I think that your parents failed because clearly they dropped you on your damn head too many times. Daredevil was a wholesale failure on every conceivable level. Bad writing, direction, casting (with the exception of Michael Clarke Duncan, R.I.P., and the loony-tunes casting of Colin Farrell), set design, special effects, everything. Daredevil is up there with Ghost Rider — no, the lead was not great, but it’s actually a tiny part of why the films are a mess. Daredevil isn’t bad, it’s a catastrophe. So to use that as some sort of shining example of why Affleck is unfit is asinine. Oh, and the first person to squeal about the Director’s Cut gets a shovel to the balls. The Director’s Cut isn’t good. It’s less bad. That’s faint goddamn praise at best.

And don’t think you Affleck supporters are getting away clean, either. Because I can still throw Forces Of Nature, Surviving Christmas, Armageddon, and f*cking Gigli at you. Pearl Harbor would like a word. As would Reindeer Games, for God’s sake. Affleck has come a long way, but He’s Just Not That Into You was only four years ago, OK? So you guys? You can shut the f*ck up, too.

So all of you. F*cking can it with the unbridled hostility. We’re years away from having anything even remotely resembling a hint of what we’ll be seeing. You want to worry about something? Worry about the fact that Zack Snyder is now holding the rights to the two greatest heroes in comic book history. THAT should be what keeps you awake at night.




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  • Berzerker37

    I see the point of this article and with 99% of it they are absolutely correct. The points made are extremely valid (Alba may have been bad as Sue Storm, but she looked amazing doing it!). Having said that, Affleck is just a horrible, horrible actor. He desperately needs an established actor to save his ass in every movie he's in. So unless they're going to cast an amazing Alfred or Superman, brace yourself for a turd. But there again, he's following some of the best Batman movies ever made, so maybe he's sacrificial lamb??

  • Idle Primate

    I may be the only person who liked Daredevil. But bravo on this article anyway. And yes it's zack at the helm that makes everything else moot.

  • ONIT

    Holding the rights like owning them? I don't think so. Warner/DC would never give those rights away!

  • Jim

    Strangely, the whole shit storm made me think of Paris is Burning -- in specific where the incredibly funny Junior LeBeija speaks to the audience before a ball starts:

    "... and give the contestants a round of applause for nerve. Cuz with y'all muthaf*ckers it DO take nerve."

    I choose to clap for Affleck's nerve. Honestly, I think it'd be easier to use the old "Ah, so many puppies, so few recipes" joke at a PETA convention.

  • ZbornakSyndrome

    I remember everyone freaking out over Daniel Craig, and how blasphemous a blond Bond would be. Funny, not too much bitching about that after Casino Royale came out.

  • cgthegeek

    I feel like if you bitch about Geek Outrage then you aren't a real geek. Because outrage over the trivial is kinda our thing.

    Let us have this for the entire 36 hours it lasted. You know were all gonna see the movie anyway. Because how else will we bitch about *that* is we don't?

  • Asmodeus

    You are such a Goddamn baby.

  • FrijidBarjot

    LOL! bringing up Michael Keaton, George Clooney, Alba, Evans etc... new time, new circumstance, new era of filmmaking i.e. reboot after reboot after reboot, and no matter what people, I included, will complain about a cast/miscast whether they are proven wrong or right at the end, so let it be as well? And even as non fan of him, I still can say that Wesley Snipes is anything but a one note actor, he chose to make bad action flicks one after the other eh...

  • Carl Lyngholm

    I'm fairly ambivalent regarding Ben Affleck as Batman. Maybe he'll be good, maybe not... I don't imagine I'll ever know because I don't plan to see it. Why? Because do WE REALLY NEED ANOTHER BATMAN MOVIE? Hasn't this mine been bled beyond dry at this point? The superhero movie in general is one of the worst Hollywood trends to entrench itself in years. Just another cynical exercise by an industry totally devoid of original ideas in an attempt to rake in as much money as possible by appealing the the lowest common denominator. I realize I may sound like some kind of snooty elitist, I assure you that is not the case. It just seems like Hollywood has no faith that general movie-going public would enjoy watching something that doesn't include already established well known quantities that we've seen over and over again reenacting tired plots with only the slightest of variations that they use to justify it as being "new." It's just... Sad...

  • manting

    You forgot phantoms.

  • Emm82

    I will always, always love that film. Sadly no longer with me ( DVD broke), but never forgotten.

  • F'mal DeHyde

    He looked good in the hat. That's really all I remember from that movie.

  • Fabius_Maximus

    Well, Rose McGowan was in it, too.

  • manting

    Peter O'Toole as well. Fucking Lawrence of Arabia.

  • TheOriginalMRod

    Okay.... How did you know my parents dropped me on my head? Was it CPS? They were just clumsy and they passed that trait on to me. That's why I am not having kids.

  • Dennis Albert Ramirez

    i am actually excited that a comic character is important enough to a major section of popular culture that it even inspires this amount of reaction in the first place. i think it's hilarious fans of the comic movies are acting like fans of the comic books did when all the franchises the movie fans love were cast in the first place (myself included).

    frankly, i myself thought The Avengers was the absolute worst idea ever for Marvel, cause i thought, no way in hell non-fanboy/girl movie-goers (given that movie stories tend to be finite and self-contained) would ever go for a "Bat-Family Crossover" (to use the TV Tropes term) in a movie, and holy cow was i thankfully wrong on that, since The Avengers went gangbusters and the concept is now viable.

    Back to Batmn, yeah, i would have preferred Josh Brolin, but I am sure Ben Affleck can pull the job off fine. Like most actors in Hollywood of every calibre, he's had his share of paychecks/bad decisions, but he's also shown that he is a fine actor/writer/director given his own interest in the project and chance to shine.

    my only complaint is that i would have rather had a standalone Batman reboot first, but whatever, I'd rather the studios not pander to what *I* want, and to what the creators' want.

    that said, if i HAD to throw my fanboy two-cents in, they should revamp Batman as a total noir style Dick Tracy meets The Big Sleep meets M with Peter Lorre thing. that way they can still keep the character dark as he always was, but still have an acceptable level of camp with his more fantastical rogues gallery. i loved Nolan's hyper-realistic-in-context version, but yeah, there's no reason not to have fun with the other aspects of the character. Just look at the Batman: Brave and The Bold animated series, which is 100% unapologetically Silver-Age camp, but also a ton of fun (RAINBOW BATMAN)

    or go straight horror and adapt A Serious House on Serious Earth, cause goddamn...

  • Aidan Harr

    I feel bad saying this, but my only real problem with the casting is that Batman is even in the movie at all. I don't want any more Batman movies. Nolan scratched that itch for me, and anything else happening this soon with the character just screams of desperation and money-grabbing.

  • Pitry

    Hmmm. Okay, then, I'll take this in a different direction.

    I feel bad ragging about Zack Snyder. He is obviously passionate, excited, believes in the material, a true enthusiast. He obviously means his best. Which is why it pains me to complain about him. But I just gotta do it, because, in the end...

    Zack Snyder is an absolute hack. Man of Steel proved as much. There were interesting ideas in there, and some promise in the second act, but it all got blown to hell in the last hour of the movie which was bad all around (and a redundant first act on Krypton). He tries with casting - Amy Adams, Lawrence Fishburne, Russell Crowe, Diane Lane! And then messes it all up with choosing Henry Charisma-Blackhole Cavill as his leading man. It's not just MoS - Watchmen is the perfect example of an adaptation that managed to be loyal to the origin to a fault - and still miss the point entirely. And Watchmen, like MoS - there are the moments, those inspired flashes that make you think, right til the bitter end, that there is still hope, that Zack Snyder isn't the hackiest hack in Hollywood, that there's a chance you'll walk out of the cinema with a smile on your face and say, "Damn, that's exactly what I hoped it would be!".... and then it turns out to be a happy accident, or that he was distracted by the shiny lights of the next big stupid idea.

    So, yes, Ben Affleck as Batman doesn't matter.... because as long as Zack Snyder is the director, the movie won't be good anyway.

    I do have beef with anyone who says Ben Affleck is a good actor, though. And no, I'm not basing it on Daredevil and I'm not basing it on Gigli. I'm basing it on the two movies with him I've seen this year, Argo and To The Wonder. He was a competent director in Argo, but as an actor, he was completely wooden, while To The Wonder... well, let's say it's obvious he had no idea what he was even doing there. I don't think that being a good actor would have mattered - Cavill isn't a good actor either, and Snyder I've already ranted about. In a way, getting a good actor for the role would have been worse, because it would have just exposed how bad Cavill is.

    So yeah, he sounds perfect for the job. it does cement what the job is going to be, though.

  • carrie

    you're the voice of the reason

  • junierizzle

    You should have lead with SNYDER IN CHARGE.

  • Louis FromBarcelona

    it's 'Johansson'

  • Welldressed

    Well, now that Affleck is Batman, the only question left is
    Will Batman and Superman finally kiss?!?!?

  • HMDK

    Yeah, get it over with already.

  • All the rage over Afleck reminds me of the similar outcry when it was announced that Starbuck had been cast as a woman in the new Battlestar Galactica. I think that one worked out pretty well in the end.

  • Kahntahmp
  • marigi

    I think it's a brilliant marketing move: lower expectations and then BANG! The movie that no one expect to succeed come out to be.... decent. Even decent would be a win in this scenario.

  • Al Borland's Beard

    Sure, Affleck has made a lot of stinkers. Armageddon, Gigli, Voyage of the Mimi, the list goes on. However, he was the bomb in Phantoms, yo.

  • Some Guy

    I watched Voyage of the Mimi back in 6th grade science class! I vaguely remember thinking of the kid as a smarmy douche back then...

    The next time I saw him, it was in Dazed and Confused, and he was the perfect smarmy douche.

    Then he was a smarmy douche in Mallrats.

    Then he got with J Lo and became even more of a smarmy douche.

    Now he gets to be Batman?

    Oy.

    (By this point, hopefully you've read the word "smarmy" so many times it should not even make sense as a word any more. Smarmy.)

  • Even Stevens

    Dammit, I hate when I agree with you

  • Sara_Tonin00

    See, I'm not a member of the fandom, so for me the past 2 weeks have been sitting back and watching the internet explode with "AGH, MY DR. WHO DOESN'T HAVE A BLACK VAGINA AND MY BATMAN IS DAREDEVIL."

    Fun times.

  • dustinflynn

    I catch a lot of flack for it, but I think Keaton was a horrible fucking Batman. Burton's Batman movies are only a single step above the Schumacher entries.

  • Lovely Bones

    I actually enjoy the Schumacher movies, well, Batman and Robin*, more than the Burton ones. They went for camp and they pulled it off alright. It was stupid, but it's also very entertainingly stupid, and is at least close to an era of Batman (Silver Age/60s show days.) Burton's were horribly tonally confused, stupid while taking itself seriously, and both Keaton and Nicholson (both of whom I adore, for the record) were horribly miscast.

    *I can't enjoy Jim Carrey as the Riddler, I'm sorry. Goodness, I hate that man.

  • Some Guy

    You know that scene in Scanners when the guys head explodes?

    That just happened.

    Batman and Robin? Really?

    The only, Only, redeeming quality to Batman and Robin is that it was so bad that Christopher Nolan caught it on cable one Saturday morning, saw it, threw up in his mouth a little, then immediately decided to rectify the mistake by making a new Batman movie and doing everything that Batman and Robin did, only the complete opposite.

  • Lovely Bones

    At least they are *funny* in their stupidity. I never said it was a good movie, just that I enjoyed it. Burton's Batman films are just as awful.

  • jason malinoski

    Robin is supposed to be a kid!

  • Jezzer

    They're not even funny in their stupidity. You should hang your head in shame right now.

  • Homme-Fatal

    While I'm sure Ben Affleck will forever be grateful for your support, I don't love being told to shut the fuck up over having a different opinion. Sorry.

  • Jezzer

    Jesus, we're sorry a mostly tongue-in-cheek article responding in kind to overblown internet rage left you as one of the walking wounded.

  • Do you just like it as a friend? Or do you see it as kind of like a brother to you?

  • Jezzer

    Goddamn Pajiba articles, always putting us nice guys in the Friend Zone, when we have so much love to give! ENJOY DATING THAT ABUSIVE JOCK, PAJIBA, YOU BITCH. /fedora

  • It was the '/fedora' part at the end that sealed it. This should go in EE, since it's back this week.

  • Joe

    Ok, I'll shut the fuck up about it. Well played. Great article. Funny, insightful and well written, kudos!

  • Some Guy

    I propose a new rule for Hollywood: An actor or actress gets one Super-hero card. Meaning, they get one chance to represent an action hero in a movie. Studios retain the option to reboot said franchises, if said actor or actress is unsatisfactory in their role. However, said actor or actress cannot be cast as a different Superhero in another franchise.

    This prevents several things. It forces Hollywood to find new and possibly exciting actors to play iconic characters, as opposed to what feels like a revolving door policy. It also means that when someone like Ben Affleck is cast as Batman, we don't have Daredevil as our primary comparison to judge said actor in his new role. I mean, the guy has played both Daredevil and the guy who played Superman, so technically Superman. Give someone else a shot.

    Point 2: When Keaton or Bale or Evans were cast as Supers, people complained and bitched because they didn't know what to expect. Keaton was comedic, Bale had a history but was still a general unknown doing smaller budget independent films, and while Evans made a decent Captain America, he got his feet wet in that Fantastic Four dreck. No one really imagined or expected them in the costume. We know what to expect with Affleck. Or at least we have work to give us an idea of what to expect. In that regards, he's a safe bet. He's familiar, and people seem to like him.

    But therein lies another rub: The reason Affleck sucks for the role is not so much what he brings, but who he is. He's Ben Affleck. He's part of the wonder twins of Goodwill Hunting fame, a favorite of Kevin Smith and the indie world, part of the Bennifer phenom, he just won an oscar. etc. etc. etc.

    Ben Affleck is Every. Where. Now that he's cast as Batman, there will be no immersion into the role because of the nature of his celebrity. It's why casting someone like Julia Roberts or Tom Cruise as such a well known super would also suck. The nature and size of their celebrity conflicts with the size and popularity of the hero in question.

  • grendel

    Here's my take:
    Comics are being revamped, redesigned and rebooted all the time. Even a change in the penciler or inker can drastically alter the tone and feel of the story and the character. Not to mention appearance.

    It's the same in the movies. It's the same character, just altered in tone and feel. And appearance.
    I always enjoyed the differences between two artistic teams takes on the same hero in the books. Now I get to enjoy it on the big screen.
    Some times it works some times it doesn't.
    Some times you get "Skyfall", some times you get "Octopussy".

    It doesn't matter if it's good. It's a new and different take. It doesn't invalidate any of those books to which you so desperately cling. If you don't want to see it, don't see it.

  • Sara_Tonin00

    WHY ARE YOU SO REASONABLE.

  • George Tarleton

    THE NERVE OF THIS GUY.

  • $65530708

    White people and their white superhero movie problems just never end...

  • See? This is the kind of shit we deal with. It's not all grinding the lesser races underfoot and taking their stuff, there are important decisions that need to be agonized over.

  • Al Borland's Beard

    We need a Black Panther movie starring Michael Jai White, turkeys.

  • Guest

    Or Sunfire.

  • DeaconG

    Or Vibe.

  • asageone12

    Ahem: Affleck graduated from Cambridge Rindge and Latin School, the only PUBLIC high school in Cambridge. It's a point of pride for my city, so get it right, goddammit.

    Now then. Carry on bitching about his being cast as Batman.

  • Eva

    Scarlett Johanssen was terrible as Black Widow.

  • jason malinoski

    I always feel a smirk on her face every scene she's in, even if she doesn't actually smirk. Distracting.

  • Thank you.

  • Pablo Sanchez

    who?

  • Al Borland's Beard

    I'm okay with this, provided Matt Damon is Robin. Just think of the sexual tension once they start playing "Kiss from a Rose".

  • Sara_Tonin00

    *hug*

  • Jason

    TK can eat a bag of dicks. " I can still throw Forces Of Nature, Surviving Christmas, Armageddon," Name a single actor that could make those movies good. Except for armageddon which WAS FANTASTIC.

  • Yo. Disagree with the article, but don't tell TK to eat a bag of dicks.

  • HMDK

    Sorry, no. Everything Armageddon related will always just be an effective ipecac.

  • kushiro -

    Speaking as someone who has read almost every Batman comic ever
    published, I really don't give a single shit who plays him. If it's
    good, I'll enjoy it. If it sucks, I won't. Life goes on.

  • jason malinoski

    So Heder (Napoleon Dynamite) would be fine by you?

  • kushiro -

    Sure. Whatever. Won't change anything.

  • Herbert

    Are you trying to be funny when you threat whoever likes the directors cut of Daredevil?

  • Fabius_Maximus

    You must be new here.

  • Felix

    Why?

  • Fabius_Maximus

    You would know about TK's basement otherwise.

  • Herbert

    Haha ok :)

  • Fabius_Maximus

    "What makes this sillier is that Affleck is a capable actor..."

    Capable of not much, you mean.

    Then again, you can't cast a good actor opposite of Henry Cavill. Just imagine Christian Bale. He would totally dominate that black hole for charisma.

  • Jifaner

    I WANT A WONDER WOMAN MOVIE. Seriously. Enough with the boy's club.

  • Guest

    But who do you cast? There's no way it's not a clusterf*ck with all the franchise baggage.

  • Jifaner

    I like Olivia Wilde or the actress who plays Maggie on The Walking Dead. My husband wants Gina Carano. I don't know that I like that though.

  • Guest

    I like her as well but not as Wonder Woman. She is too waif like and I can't see her being able to do the physical requirements of the role (Lauren Cohan is out for the same reason).

    But it's not like that has ever stopped Hollywood before and she'd probably fit right in with an Affleck Batman.

  • Jifaner

    Lauren Cohan does a lot of physical stuff on TWD, but either of them could put on muscle. Actors do that all the time, no reason an actress can't as well.

  • Guest

    I'd love to see more of L.C. but not as W.W. She is the same height (5'7) and weight as Wilde. There has to be an actress out there who is tall enough not to need 6" heels and isn't a twig to stand toe to toe with Batfleck and Supes.

    Gina Carano is still the best choice.

    Or Gwendoline Christie. She is tall 6'3, gorgeous, and can act.

  • F'mal DeHyde

    It would be sexist if they don't cast a man.

  • Gina Carano. Or Lucy Lawless.

  • Guest

    Yes, Gina Carano is the only real option.

  • Homme-Fatal

    Olivia Wilde - no question about it.

  • Jezzer

    Because nothing screams "Tough As Nails Amazon Warrior Goddess" like the Brett Ratner Shrimp Fat Penis Lady.

  • $65530708

    No.

  • Homme-Fatal

    Well, alright then.

  • Strand

    I must say, I don't think I've ever seen quite the career turn-around as Ben Affleck. Okay, maybe Robert Downey Jr. but the noughties were a bad time to be Ben Affleck. Daredevil... Gigli... the unfortunately titled 'Paycheck.'

  • Helo

    Way I figure... People still have Nolan's trilogy fresh in their mind, and rightly so. One of the key cogs in the success of those three films (individually and as a saga) was David Goyer, who is writing again. I have enough faith in Goyer's understanding of Batman to understand the different interpretations of Batman that have popped up in comics lore over the decades.

    Batffleck (that's a thing now) exists in a world where he's got to be rampantly paranoid and 10 times more unethical than Nolan's Batman in order to hang with Superman, and further down the line, other super powered beings. This has to be closer to Bruce Timm and Paul Dini DC Animated Universe Batman than Nolan's Batman.

  • The thing is by completely recasting Batman with Affleck Nolan's trilogy is left alone which I really like. I don't want those movies to tie in to a larger universe, because I don't think Superman works in that universe. I like Affleck, now that I've processed it I'm not that concerned about his casting. Who wouldn't jump at the chance to play Batman, I doubt Ben even hesitated.

    I think this Batman movie (or Superman movie I guess) is going to be heavy on the action, less on the pathos. I just hope Ben knows what he's signing on for because I don't think the makers of the movie know what this is going to be yet. I'm more concerned about Goyer writing the script than anything else. For every Blade there was a Blade Trinity. He is incredibly uneven and I think Jonathan Nolan is more responsible for Nolan's trilogy than Goyer was.

  • Helo

    Funnily enough, Daredevil and Ghost Rider were both helmed by one Mark Steven Johnson, which explains a whole hell of a lot about both those steaming piles of rhino dung.

  • Uriah_Creep

    And then he directed Kristen Bell in When In Rome! What the holy fuck???

  • Mrs. Julien

    What I do not understand is WHY Affleck is doing this now when he is finally getting credibility as a director. Snyder can cast whoever he wants and Affleck can only look good in comparison to Henry (OMG HISGL) Cavill, but I don't understand this as a career move.

  • Look at it this way..if you had a chance to get paid millions of dollars to be Batman, wouldn't you take it? I sure as hell would.

  • Jezzer

    I think it's as simple as Ben Affleck really liking comics and superheroes and having enough cash to be able to do what he wants, so this role is a dream come true for him.

  • **I AM** NotTheOne

    That dude has a house full of dimpled children to feed. Have you ever priced out the upkeep of dimples? Those things are expensive.

  • THIS is how I like to begin my weekend. Hear hear!!!

    I'm personally banking on Affleck's ambitiousness to pull this through - it's not like he doesn't know everyone's talking about him. He just may have the guts to go inside himself deeper than ever and pull out a great performance just to shut all us hoes up.

  • emmalita

    I see your point, but let's not forget how you introduced the news:

    "Yup. Ben Affleck will be Batman in the upcoming David Goyer-scripted, Zack Snyder-directed Superman Vs. Batman film.

    “We knew we needed an extraordinary actor to take on one of DC
    Comics’ most enduringly popular super heroes, and Ben Affleck certainly
    fits that bill, and then some,” said WB’s president of production Greg
    Silverman. “His outstanding career is a testament to his talent and we
    know he and Zack will bring new dimension to the duality of this
    character.”

    I’m not even gonna comment. I’m just pulling the pin, tossing the
    grenade in, and then slamming the door. I will, however, also leave you
    with this:"

    And then you left us with a goofy Daredevil clip guaranteed to make Ben Affleck look unworthy of Batman.

    Maybe you didn't scream with rage when you saw the news, but you certainly created a post that gave people who would scream with rage a safe place to scream and rant. So please don't hold it against us.

  • **I AM** NotTheOne

    And as a result I blame TK for all of it. Because I heard it from him first. It's childish but there is nothing I can do about it. I am just going to feel my feelings.

  • Sonal Sher

    This is the best god damn article i have read about this entire thing. My feeling exactly!

  • I'd get the rage if we could predict a movie's quality by it's casting decisions. But as you point out, we can't. People should be holding Goyer and Snyder's feet to the fire instead of Affleck. They will determine the movie's quality much more than him.

  • HMDK

    Pretty much.

  • dr_zayaz

    I'll just leave this here...

  • Jezzer

    OMG, BUT THE DIRECTOR'S CUT OF DAREDEVIL WAS SO MUCH BETTER! *squeal*

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