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The Guy Who Co-Founded 'Vice' Magazine Is Vile, Misogynistic Hipster Vermin

By Dustin Rowles | Think Pieces | October 23, 2013 | Comments ()


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Yesterday, we ran a post about Roosh V, a guy who is under the delusion that if men would just refrain from having sex with feminists, then feminism would all go away! (Related: If you just plug your ears with your fingers and shout LA LA LA LA LA LA, will people like Roosh V go away?), and a commenter suggested that the piece “was ridiculous on first glance,” and asked “why we would give any time or words to it?”

There were a lot of thoughtful responses to that comment, but what it basically boils down to is this: There is a meaningful segment of the population that is still vigorously fighting against feminism and for Don Draper-like conventional ideas of masculinity. It’s not just words, either. Over the weekend, a man beat a 17-MONTH-OLD toddler to death because the TODDLER was acting too feminine. Then there’s this guy, the leader of some men’s rights movement, who “doesn’t give a f*ck about rape victims,” and thinks that most rape victims are just women who regret their one-night stands.

Another such person fighting for a return to more conventional gender roles is Gavin McInnes, the co-founder of Vice magazine and now the guy behind the website Street Carnage. McInnes is a big proponent of “male empowerment,” and wrote a book called How to Be a Man. A brief glance at his website reveals a post called, “Stuff that Real Men Like to Do,” which includes: 1) Cum on a woman’s face; 2) make his lady get a boob job, and 3) watch his girlfriend beat up the woman he cheated on her with, and if she beats her up badly enough, the guy won’t even have to worry about getting her an abortion.

Classy stuff.

Anyway, McInnes was on HuffPost live discussion the evolving definition of what it means to be a man, and ended up going on a tirade about women in the workplace. Here’s a taste:

Women are forced to pretend to be men. They’re feigning this toughness. They’re miserable. Study after study has shown that feminism has made women less happy. They’re not happy in the work force, for the most part. I would guess 7 percent [of women] like not having kids, they want to be CEOs, they like staying at the office all night working on a proposal, and all power to them. But by enforcing that as the norm, you’re pulling these women away from what they naturally want to do, and you’re making them miserable.

At one point, he got into a spat with a female law professor, Mary Anne Franks (the woman in the image above with the boxing gloves), who suggested that McInnis’ aggression is rooted in “fear,” “weakness,” and “impotence.” McInnis responded in part:

“You see these women they wait too long to have kids….they have to have surrogates…..I can see its gonna happen to you Mary Anne … then [to Mary Anne] I’M NOT INSISTING ANYTHING YOU F**KING IDIOT!

In other words, McInnis perfectly illustrates Franks’ point about male aggression.

You can see the entire fantastic interview here, and watch Mary Ann Franks’ calmly, eloquently, and beautifully rip this meathead to shreds.



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  • knifeyspoony

    "The Guy Who Co-Founded 'Vice' Magazine is Vile, Misogynistic Hipster Vermin"

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

  • jblinco86

    Great article. But the story on the toddler you have linked to is from 2010?

  • Etaoin_Sherdlu

    Women have been gaining in power for the last century, and now that we've reached a tipping point, the old way of thinking is, metaphorically, backed into a corner and fighting for its life. We'll see much more of this before it's over, but it WILL be over eventually. This attitude has already lost.

  • BlackRabbit

    Am I the only one very briefly amused by reading this headline right before/after the Anchorman one?

  • Mrs. Julien

    I commented on that very thing over on the Anchorman article.

  • BlackRabbit

    Well, great minds and all that...:)

  • Mrs. Julien

    Obvs.

  • lowercase_ryan

    Can we have a web series where Nick Offerman and Patrick Stewart corner "men" like this on the street and have a word with them. The internet loves public shaming for kids and dogs, why the hell can't we widen it to include piece of shit sexist assholes? Start with this prick then on to Chuck Lorre.

  • Wigamer

    Patrick Stewart could reason with them and then Nick Offerman could employ the carpentry tool of his choice.

  • lowercase_ryan

    I just want Nick to put a hand on the guys shoulder and say "Have a seat son." Then Patrick takes over.

  • Wigamer

    Much more appropriate. Maybe a light application of a fine-grit sandpaper? Only with the difficult ones.

  • Andrew J

    I'm not surprised the vice dude is a jackass. Every story of that magazine boils down to "sure this culture is rich and interesting, but how does this affect skinny white hipsters"

  • Anthony Hoffman

    This just smells like trolling. ABC News and other big outlets are covering this. I guess mission accomplished on his part, human garbage that he is.

  • Muhnah_Muhnah

    Right, considering the subject at hand, I feel bad about doing this, but I can't help but drool over the picture above especially after you said she's a law professor. I can't resist a hot supersmart lady in boxing gloves.

    Ahem. What were we talking about? Oh yes, feminism. Yep, totally for it. That guy is a tool. I much prefer "How to be a woman" by Caitlin Moran.

  • amanda

    I know you feel bad about commenting on how hot she is (and I don't disagree), but I just want to comment on your comment. I know women do this too, with attractive men, so I'm not saying it doesn't go both ways. I think it's just a personal peeve of mine. I just get annoyed when men feel like they have to comment on a woman's looks when, in the context, she's trying to be taken seriously for her thoughts/feelings. You don't HAVE to comment on how she looks. Just keep it to yourself, you know? I see this a lot with the "I Fucking Love Science" page on Facebook. Men are always commenting on how cute Elise Andrews is. And again, you'll never find me disagreeing. But, shit man, she's sharing some cool science stuff with you. D'you think you could shut up about how she looks? What the hell does it matter what she looks like? Cool science stuff! Sorry to rant. I'm sure your intentions were good and all. Women just like to be judged on the thoughts in our brains, rather than how attractive we are. If every time you tried to express a thought or feeling, woman was like, "Wow! You're hot AND smart! That's so fucking amazing! I mean, a guy who's hot and smart! AMAZING! It's like that practically never happens, ever. Also, you're super hot. I'm sorry, were you talking about something? I wasn't really listening because I was too busy marveling about how you're both smart AND hot, which is an amazing goddamn feat!", I promise you, that would get old really really quickly.

  • Muhnah_Muhnah

    I completely agree with you, which is why I prefaced it with an acknowledgement of the silliness of it. I'm a woman, btw, not that it's relevant. I DO react the same way to men who are superhot + supersmart. It IS rare...I mean, either one of those two qualities is statistically rare, so the combination is rarer. However I don't run over to them in the street and marvel at their incredible luck. I just usually quietly admire them. The reason I said it here was a perhaps misguided attempt to introduce some lightness into the conversation as is the norm on Pajiba. We drool over intelligent hot people around here, it's somewhere in the manifesto, it's our thing. You can argue that this wasn't the forum for it, in which case, fair enough.

  • amanda

    I totally wasn't trying to attack you. And I'm sorry I assumed you were a man...I rarely read that sort of comment from women.

  • Wigamer

    I would venture to say that everyone would like to thought of as both smart and attractive. Not all of us are, but still.

  • amanda

    Sure, everyone wants to be thought of that way. I'm just positing that being respectful to an intelligent woman who is sharing thoughts/feelings with you does not include commenting on how attractive she is. A good rule of thumb for men, with regard to giving compliments about attractiveness, is just to treat all strange women like work colleagues. If it wouldn't be appropriate to say it to a work colleague, you shouldn't say it to a strange woman, either. Obviously there are situations where this could be more loosely interpreted, but people should always try to treat other people with respect, regardless of the situation. The anonymity of the internet makes respect much less of a concern, unfortunately. It's unlikely that, in real life, Munah_Munah would run up to the smart lady with the boxing gloves and start telling her how hot she is. Maybe another rule of thumb is to treat people on the internet just the way you would in real life.

  • amanda

    What's most baffling to me about "male empowerment" is that if you're male, you're already on the top of the damn pile. You're in the number one spot, fellas. If you're white and male, even better. So talking about "male empowerment", from that point of view, just shows that you're paranoid and fearful that someone will knock you down to a lower rung of the power ladder. It also shows that you're an oppressive douchebag piece of shit who would prefer to stand on the heads and shoulders of creatures you consider to be less important and special than yourself (in this case, women). These "male empowerment" guys have to be some of the dumbest, shittiest human beings in existence.

  • Wigamer

    What they're really afraid of is someone treating them like they treat the rest of the world--because deep down, they know what they are, what they're doing, and why.

  • amanda

    Yep. But it's hard to believe that any of these idiots are really that self-aware. I mean, obviously, fear is at the core of all of this. But it's hard for me to grasp where the fear comes from. Like, are they afraid that women are going to take over and make men our slaves or something? I think maybe a lot of these manosphere morons truly think (or truly want to think) they're superior to women. Smarter, more deserving of stuff, better drivers....what have you. All that bullshit. And feminists are terrifying because we aren't subservient dumb-dumbs who exist merely to serve a man. Feminism is not just about getting equality, it's about striving for equality, right? Feminist women are always trying to make it better, be more intelligent, get more education, be better equipped to be an asset ourselves and our communities and families and friends and jobs and so on. We're striving to make our lives and choices completely our own (still. Grrrrrrrr!). Point is, the more we do all these things, the more we show ourselves to be equal to men in every way. And I think these manosphere douches just can't handle that at all. It's about power and oppression and fear, yes, but I think it's also a feeling that they're superior. They really believe that, really want to believe that. It's totally gross.

  • Zuffle

    Why respect women when you can just force them to get breast implants, cheat on them, goad them into fistfights for your pleasure and then ejaculate on their faces? I've clearly been wasting my life. This guy's a fucking modern Aristotle, and you should definitely give him all the small-cocked attention he craves.

  • kushiro -

    That just seems like a lot of work. I can sit at home respecting them and still have time to read or play video games.

  • Anthony Hoffman
  • Anthony Hoffman
  • Parsnip

    Gavin, less Frank T.J. Mackie and more Germain Greer I think.

  • Ben

    As a man, I don't care at all what this guy says. None of the things that he says makes you a man are things that I even care for and tend to be the moves of vile assholes that I despise.

  • Wigamer

    That's why I get nervous about giving him too much attention--I truly believe men like you are the norm, not the exception. I don't want us to waste so much energy on outrage that we forget to acknowledge that.

  • amanda

    In a way, the attention is good. Sure, it probably rallies douchebags to his "cause" (or whatever), but it also makes more people aware that there are heinous douchebags still running amok, spewing hate at the ladies. I totally agree that we need to thoroughly appreciate and give lots of love to the men who aren't like this asshat. But on the other hand, making a point of saying, "hey, look at this fucking asshat!" draws attention to the fact that there are still asshats and that feminism is still relevant and very much needed.

  • Maguita NYC

    I believe we've learned our lesson lately that ignoring idiocy does not make it go away.

    With the last government Shutdown, we've understood that if left un-monitored, extremists would allow themselves to go into full temper tantrums, forgo all due democratic process, and sacrifice the country's well-being and that of its citizens.

    No one eight years ago could have predicted that any politician in the United States would dare utter half the shit those in that party have uttered. All the racism, bigotry, homophobia, xenophobia, all these comments were stated loudly under the guise of faith and Free Speech.

    That is why I agree with you: Bringing forward the words of bigots is not giving platform to their ideology, but rather making sure they understand their behavior is absolutely unacceptable in a country where equality matters. And that they would be held accountable.

  • Ben

    I just lump him into the same category as I do the WBC. They are loudmouthed assholes who would shrivel in vile pockets of ignorance and doucheness if they had no voice. But media both mainstream and new media keep giving these guys soap boxes to scream their rhetoric from. If everybody just stopped putting this goof (I use that term in the Canadian prison system sense, look it up) and the WBC in front of microphones and cameras they would just fade away.

  • Anne Cordelia

    See, I wish this were true. I wish that people like him were a small, vocal minority spewing hate that's not related to our real lives at all. Unfortunately, while they are extremists, I can't tell you how many otherwise perfectly nice guys I've met who espouse beliefs that are the living shadow of these vile sentiments, without realizing that the're wrong in any way. Now, granted, I live in Alabama currently, so that could be a factor. However, I think that because some people hold beliefs that are thoughtlessly sexist, jackholes like this getting media attention may help others look at their own beliefs and question the veracity of them when they see how people react so negatively to views that resemble theirs.

  • emmalita

    I know there are tremendous differences between Denmark and the US, a big one being size, but articles like this just make everything he says about women in the workplace a lie. (And of course Denmark has it's own problems.)

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...

  • ZbornakSyndrome

    My mother was counting the seconds until she could return to work after having me. My father says one of the happiest days of his life was when she finally went back because she was miserable staying home all day.
    Not that she drop kicked me into a gutter when maternity leave was over, but some people genuinely need to do something other than stare at an infant all day.
    I played housewife for a week when I was in between jobs and it wasn't for me either. Some people like to stay home. Some people don't, is it that hard for this asswipe to understand?

  • emmalita

    Yep. We were all much happier with my mom back at work.

  • Sara_Tonin00

    The Times just had a great op-ed on Angela Merkel, and how she has flipped the expectations of women vs. men in terms of emotional response, much like Franks' response to McInnes

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10...

    (btw, there is a tendency to refer to men by last name and women by first name when writing about them - nice that you didn't here)

  • Fabius_Maximus

    Unfortunately, that's all she will be remembered for. As one of the commentators on that article put it, she's a "bland technocrat". I'd add "ice-cold" to that. She takes after her political mentor Helmut Kohl, who was only good at one thing: accumulating and keeping power. He never did anything with it.

    Merkel is the same. She never acts, she reacts, and is totally opportunistic while doing that. She's not a good role-model.

  • Sara_Tonin00

    ...would you rather have a Thatcher?

    "Bland" and "reacting rather than acting" kinda fits how I feel about Hillary

  • Fabius_Maximus

    Thatcher would not be possible in this country. The "libertarian" party just was voted out of the Bundestag.

    Even so, doing something with her power would re-polarize the political landscape. Given that the left side of the political spectrum here actually holds the majority in parliament (it's just splintered), she'd eventually lose her power.

    Right now, she's like teflon. She offers no effective angle for an attack.

  • Captain_Tuttle

    Well, she is German.

  • Fabius_Maximus

    Oh, come on. We're not that bad.

  • And isn't all the Skyler White hate just another symptom? If only the whiny bitch (and the pesky government/DEA busting up the small business entrepreneur) would stop yapping and let her sociopathic meth cook husband be the single bread winner.

  • Mrs. Julien

    How many times do we need to have these discussions about cultural terrorists? They are asinine people with a bully pulpit and we have once again gathered round to hurl invective. The extremists are not the problem, the relativists are.

  • Wigamer

    I will gladly kick your downvoter(s!) in the shins. Puttin' on ma pointy shoes...

  • ZbornakSyndrome

    Can I stand behind you chanting "Fight! Fight! Fight!"?

  • emmalita

    I'll hold your jacket and beverage.

  • Wigamer

    Girl, now I've got one! Throw my shit on the ground and let's get to kickin'!

  • emmalita

    We are in the Shit-kickin' State!

  • Mrs. Julien

    Downvotes in situations like these are a badge of honour.

  • Wigamer

    I know, but you've been away! I'd like to violently express my pleasure at having you back.

  • Mrs. Julien

    [blushing]

  • booboochile

    Quit that this second, MJ! you'll attract that douche nozzle here....blushing indeed! All of you women, fling your bras out the window, get your sports bras and granny panties, for those brave enough to want to cause apoplexy, wifebeaters and boxer shorts.

    Hide the children, banish your husband...hang your trouser suits in plain view...no, not the pink ones...powder blue won't do either. Ok, no pastels. Navies, blacks...you know austere colours.

    What? Red?....Er I guess, might give him visions of devil prostitution-whores sent by a menstrual Satan to jihad against straight men genita...hey? You aren't Muslim? Fine Mrs Roberts I didn't mean anything by ...Are Christians allowed? Everyone is invited Mrs. Roberts as long as you can cause absolute fear in straight men. No you needn't hide the kids forever. Yes I know there's a roast in the...sigh!

    Yes Vanessa? Transexuals are very welcome...Gays? Yes, all are welcome, hopefully he'll spontaneously combust.

  • emmalita

    I'm voting for you. What are you running for?

  • booboochile

    Gob smacked but at the same time not really.I'm running for anything against that twatmuffin. Anything at all!

  • emmalita

    Count me in as a supporter.

  • Mrs. Julien

    [shocked and awed]

  • As if the problem is women being constrained into male roles as opposed to society not valuing the qualities not-males bring.

  • Chad Benson

    Um...not that it makes the crime any less horrific, but I don't think August 2010 happened "over the weekend."

  • pajiba

    Oh, I just saw "last Sunday" on it, and assumed. My apologies.

  • Scott Grannan

    Seriously?

  • RobynRobotron

    You couldn't tell by the other information in the article, like the questionnaires about the pending repeal of DADT?

    (That should have been a reply to the mod, my bad.)

  • Bert_McGurt

    Gentlemen Males,

    The world does not owe you recompense for your unimpressive members.

    Sincerely,
    Everyone

  • manting

    speak for yourself, mine is fairly impressive. Okay, not over the top impressive but not average either. Its somewhere between 7-8 on a scale of 1-10, okay, probably closer to a 7, but still not unimpressive but not exactly mind blowing either.

  • Bert_McGurt

    I'm only speaking for those who deal with their inadequacies the way MacInnes and this Roosh clown do. Those of us without endowment issues have no need for that kind of crude chest-puffing, table-thumping posturing (hence the redaction of gentlemen).

  • Wigamer

    Especially if you can thump the table with it.

  • BlackRabbit

    It would make court cases possibly more interesting. Or weird.

  • Am I surprised? No.

    BTW, this is probably the type of douche who thinks that he's a bad ass and a sexual conqueror and an expert on life just because he did one thing and it went well.

    As for his line of thinking, it's born out of the same close-minded, idiotic, "This is the way things are naturally" that leads to people to believe the idyllic 50s were the best times and that minorities don't know what's best for them. He even says it: "you're pulling these women away from what they naturally want to do".

    How the fuck would he know what any woman wants to do? Some like being mothers and we're thrilled for them. Others want to be athletes and that's cool. Others want to be professionals and that's okay. This is life in the 21st Century. You get to pick what you want out of life -- not anyone else.

    Greater men than this dbag have made the serious mistake of assuming to know what goes on in the minds of women and failed.

  • hippyherb

    A few years ago I was in a relationship with an older, quite old- fashioned man. He was slowly and patiently trying to teach me how to be a "real woman".
    We were driving somewhere and he was talking about his childhood. Apparently his mother loved doing housework and looking after her family. (I hate housework and will only do the minimum that is required to keep the household running somewhat smoothly)
    Anyway, his mother loved housework so much that when she ironed her sons clothing, she would hug the clothes in delight. (I shit you not).
    I listen to his story and waited until he had finished. Then I asked him if he liked ironing. He replied that he didn't know how to iron. I then asked him to imagine that he did iron, if he would like it. He said that he probably wouldn't.
    I then at high volume said to him, "why the fuck do you think I should like ironing just because I have a uterus?"
    He has no reply to that.
    By the way, I fucking hate ironing.

  • Anne At Large

    I have to go create some more profiles now so I can upvote this more.

  • hippyherb

    Thank you. That guy was such a dick.

  • Al Borland's Beard

    If you have to read a book called "How to be a Man", you're already doing it wrong.

  • JustOP

    Sorta unsure how people still hold views like this. I mean, some of these claims are so stupendous that they render my brains capabilities to a level consisting only of 'wat'.

  • Gauephat

    I do think a lot of guys have confidence issues, and are very unsure of themselves in public with other men and women. But seeking out a mildly sociopathic douchebag to fix that problem doesn't seem like a smart solution.

  • Wigamer

    But why must they derive their confidence from their male-ness? Surely there's more they can be proud of than their genitalia, yes?

  • Maguita NYC

    Because to this day the act of penetration is still considered the gateway to manhood.

    We can debate why men feel emasculated, and how come honor and respect had taken a very back seat to sexuality, but the fact is, whenever you speak of manhood, it has become automatically linked to the penis and the act of penetration. Not what exactly might define being a man in today's world.

    And just like Gauephat says, women also derive confidence from their bodies: You just need to look at women's views on their breasts, sign of their femininity. When faced with breast cancer and the tough decision to opt for a double mastectomy, many shy away from the operation.

    Simply put, their perception of what having a woman's body entitles puts them at odd with making easily a decision that not only would up their chances at survival but long-term remission as well. No matter if this specific procedure would give them so much the advantage at beating the odds, many would still opt for only aggressive chemo and other treatments rather than mastectomy, and take their chances in the long run.

    I believe for all genders we need to redefine what is considered ADULTHOOD, and not link it anymore to sex.

  • emmalita

    I have a lot of empathy for men who are confused about how to be proud men. My father and my uncles were raised in the 1950's and 1960's. They are so uncomfortable and confused about what it means to be a man now. The ideas of manhood they were raised with are both revered and rejected. On the one hand they encouraged me to be myself, whatever that turned out to be. On the other they get angry at the diminishing areas of their influence and expertise.

    Their discomfort has translated to their sons who grew up with that confusion of what it means to be a man. I've seen the real pain it causes them. I am not willing to trade in the rights I've been given to make my own path for their comfort, but I can appreciate that there is real pain in trying to figure out what kind of man you are supposed to be.

    Godtopus bless the 70's and my weird dad and iconoclastic mom for raising me to be a person before being a woman.

  • Wigamer

    I totally agree. My husband is a sweet-natured, sensitive guy--into music, not sports--and the stories he tells growing up even in the 70s & 80s are just disheartening.

  • Gauephat

    Couldn't the same be said about women, though? What's wrong with being secure about who you are? The reality is that gender is a huge factor in one's personality, outlook, and life in general.

  • Wigamer

    There's some truth to that, I'm just saddened at the thought of some poor misguided guy buying this douche's book--it would likely only serve to make him feel worse.

  • manting

    while I hear you I believe the real problem of this kind, meaning buying some idiots literature on how to be a man/women is predominantly on the female side. There are so many magazines that are devoted to this its mind blowing and all of them are terrible. Elle, Mademoiselle, Vogue, Glamour, Vanity Fair, and a slew of other complete trash magazines are out there getting consumed on a much higher scale that the aforementioned douche dudes book.

  • Wigamer

    I would agree that there is no end of damaging messages aimed at women in popular culture. And most of it is about how to become the "right" kind of woman--beautiful, healthy, successful, thin, good in bed--all that dreck pimped by "women's magazines." Sadly, a steady diet of that usually results in a woman hating herself for not measuring up. So I guess I was wondering if it might be the same for a relatively normal guy reading this dude's book.

  • NynjaSquirrel

    I think there's still an alpha mentality in some circles - I see the fraternity things in America seem to carry over well into adult life - and to an outsider they seem very dangerous. This pack behaviour where alpha has to reinforce his position, and where members have to prove they're worth respect of their peers by violating women seem barbaric at best...

  • Wigamer

    He is also apparently the author of "How to Piss in Public".

  • Captain_Tuttle

    My 5 year old son could have written that book. And he's already more of a man than this dick smack will ever be.

  • nosio

    How can one write an entire book on that? If I did, it would have two words: "Be discreet."

  • ZbornakSyndrome

    Chapter Seven: The Wind, Friend or Foe?

  • Bert_McGurt

    And of course, Epilogue: Electric Fences

  • Mrs. Julien

    It's a two word chapter: It depends.

  • Chapter Six: R. Kelly's 37-chapters on "Pissing on your Lover"

  • bastich

    Chapter 43: How To Traumatize Your Pets

  • BlackRabbit

    "Establish dominance!"

  • Bert_McGurt

    Chapter 2: Come on, not in the fountain!

  • Mrs. Julien

    Chapter Three: Snow Calligraphy

  • VonnegutSlut

    Chapter Four: Women's Legs & How To Tell Them It's Raining

  • Wigamer

    Chapter Five: (ghostwritten by Justin Bieber) That's What Mop Buckets Are FOR

  • Jiffylush

    That guy thinks he did really well because he called her an idiot instead of a bitch.

  • It would be pretty to think that the stuff that men like McInnis and Roosh V write is just so much attention-seeking bluster. Anything so comically extreme can't possibly be taken seriously, right?

    If you'd like to keep thinking that, don't go to Roosh V's website. Don't go to his forums. Don't see that, at any given time, close to two thousand straight men (because women and gay men are banned) are on that forum discussing how to be "more alpha" and trading tips on what to do if your one night stand decides to cry rape. Two. Thousand.

    I need to go hug my son.

  • NynjaSquirrel

    Sadly, and from a UK perspective, much of what I see coming out of the US in particular seems to be veering more towards this return to 1950's values - then add a culture of 'I'm banging all my bitches in the club', and it becomes a swirling vortex that needs a plug in it. Maybe we can throw Roosh in and it will stem the flow a little. He also seems unaware that if you DO respect women you're a lot less likely to need rape as your only form of female contact. As a male I would gladly assert my masculinity if it involved dropping these scumbags into a deep mine and sealing it shut.

  • ApeDrape

    This sounds a bit like Euro Centric thinking on your part. I do not really see what you are seeing though I could be wrong. Currently 11 or so female Marines are on track to pass Marine Infantry School. Which is one of the most active combat arms positions within the USMC.

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