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In Which I Get Cranky And Old

By Steven Lloyd Wilson | Posted Under Think Pieces | Comments (66)



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When I went to see The Expendables a couple of weeks ago, it was a brilliant and warm southern California morning. With no clouds to temper it, the sun gleefully sat at exactly the right mid-morning angle to reflect off of every windshield and shiny window, plunging a cacophony of migraine daggers deep into any exposed corneas. The theater perched on the top floor of an outdoor mall, sitting in the middle of the food court. So after purchasing a ticket for the usual exorbitant rate I did the only thing any rational adult with a headache in the middle of a food court would do. I bought a cup of coffee.

Yes, you can probably guess what is coming, and roll your eyes at my idiocy. Of course one can’t bring food and drink into a theater, what did you expect? See, this is exactly how they get us. They invent arbitrary rules, hold our entertainment hostage, and then every time we meekly submit because it’s less of a bother we get more used to the leash.

As I walk up and hand my ticket to the teenaged girl I lift the cup to my mouth to take the first sip and am interrupted with “you can’t take that in.”

“Why not?”

“No outside food and drink. You’ll have to finish it first.” She says.

“Finish it? I just bought it, I haven’t started it yet.”

“I’m sorry, that’s our policy.” Oh, policy, those simple little three syllables that can excuse any idiocy imaginable. It’s not me, I’m just following orders, you know, policy.

“Then I want the money back for my ticket.”

This breaks the teenage bored employee facade, and I get the slightest hint of a stammer. “But, I can’t do that.”

I’ve moved past anger into that comfortable zone of cheerful antagonism that feels warmer than a double shot of whiskey. “I’d like to speak to a manager then.” I say with a smile. There’s palpable relief on her face, as I spoke the magic words that gave her the out that she should have thought of herself.

The customer service manager is a bit older, clearly a longer timer than the summer help at the door, but just gives the same answers and responses. I’m cheerful, not raising my voice in the least. Yelling at the poor bastards at the bottom rarely solves anything. Finally, they call down someone from upstairs, he doesn’t even have a name tag, so he’s probably the highest ranking guy on site.

The policy excuse works both ways because while it means that no one is individually responsible for the inanity of a rule, it also means that any individual employee doesn’t have to make a stand on it so long as punting it to their boss is less painful than just letting the customer have his way. You can work your way up the food chain this way, until you find the poor bastard crouched with his balls pressed against the apex of that graph, the one who can’t punt it higher without getting smacked, but also doesn’t have the power to make his immediate subordinate deal with the problem. That’s the bureaucratic sweet spot. And that’s what this guy is.

“You just can’t bring in outside food and drink.” He explains without explaining.

“Why not?”

“It’s our policy not to allow it.”

“But why is it the policy?”

“It just is.”

Movie theater chains have to pay ninety cents of every dollar right back to the movie studios. They don’t make jackshit on the actual movies, so they’ve only got two recourses: raise ticket prices so that their paltry percentage yields more money and mark up fifteen cents of popcorn by a thousand percent and not let anyone bring in outside food and drink. Never mind that every time they raise the prices of those items, they sell less of them, getting sucked down into a never ending cycle of rising prices and declining actual sales.

“Look,” I say, trying to take another tack since we both know the answer is very simple. “I get that you make your money on concessions so you don’t like people bringing stuff in. But if that’s your business model, then why did you put this theater in the middle of the mall’s food court?”

“I don’t know, sir. But it’s still not our policy to allow outside food and drink.” Ah, the party line, sweet shield of the weak in the wrong.

“Ok, so you want me to throw my coffee away, walk inside and buy whatever food and drink I want inside, right?”

“Yes.”

“Do you sell coffee?” I can see the concessions menu from where we are standing, so I know this is the safe crack to pry at.

There’s a long pause. “No.” He admits. There’s a bit more back and forth, but I’ve been tenacious enough that he’d rather just let me in than waste more of his time with this. The compromise? I’m given a large soda cup to pour my coffee into, because the mere sight of a logo that hasn’t paid the company would be a gross indecency.

This has burned twenty minutes of time and so I stroll into The Expendables ten minutes after its slated start time. I don’t have to worry though. The trailers haven’t even started yet, we’re still on the pre-trailer commercials. Dean Winters winks at me. Thirty minutes of commercials. A hundred minutes of movie. At least when I have to watch this many commercials on television I can do so without pants and without being arrested.

I used to love going to the movies. As a teenager I’d often go once a week: the huge screen, the trailers, the experience of watching with your friends. Now? The trailers probably were online yesterday, the TV I’ve got at home is proportionately just as big, and I don’t have to pay extra for my friends so long as there is room on the couch and floor. And hey, at home I can make myself a fucking steak dinner for less money than a hot dog, popcorn and soda costs at the theater. And since searing a steak to a succulent medium-rare takes about eight minutes, the time investment is still less than sitting through the shit before the movie.

The only gain to seeing the movie in the theater is that you get to see it a few months before it shows up with six different DVD versions from which to choose. You pay a premium for instant gratification, but in every other comparison, watching the film at home is the better option. If your product is objectively worse than an alternative that costs significantly less, then you are going to go out of business.

To put it another way, and to really channel my inner curmudgeon, it’s entirely possible that my next new review might be from prison. If I have my backpack searched by a sixteen year old usher again for rogue M&Ms under the grave pretense of customer safety, there’s going to be a hostage situation.

Steven Lloyd Wilson is a hopeless romantic and the last scion of Norse warriors and the forbidden elder gods. His novel, ramblings, and assorted fictions coalesce at www.burningviolin.com. You can email him here.









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Comments

The only gain to seeing the movie in the theater is that you get to see it a few months before it shows up with six different DVD versions from which to choose.

That's the craziest thing I've ever heard.

Posted by: Jay at August 25, 2010 3:06 PM

You think that's bad? I have a friend who has an autistic son with significant dietary restrictions. They called up in advance, got a doctor's letter and explained to the movie theatre that they would be happy to buy popcorn and drinks for the other kids in the family, but that they had to bring in snacks for their autistic child. The response? No way, under any circumstances are you permitted to bring in outside food. They also told them that they will be "watching for them" in case they try to sneak it in in the future.

Posted by: PaddyDog at August 25, 2010 3:07 PM

No, I'm sorry, watching a movie at home is NOT the same as watching it in a theater. I don't care what kind of 70 inch flat screen with bose surround you've shelled out for, it doesn't even come close. Unless you've spent serious money (I mean tens of thousands) on a professionally built system home theater room, there is no comparison. Make all the arguments about price, noise, concessions, etc. that you want (Mind you, I will continue to ignore all of them), but don't try and tell me that some shit I can purchase at Best Buy can recreate the movie theater experience.

Posted by: WestCoastPat at August 25, 2010 3:13 PM

I just saw Inception and was really bugged by the way the speakers kept cutting in and out. Every few minutes -- sometimes more frequently than that -- I'd have to be distracted by the sound of the movie changing. And it's certainly not the first time that's happened. Does that drive anyone else crazy?

Posted by: Todd at August 25, 2010 3:13 PM

But really it sounds like the death of your moviegoing. The theater hasn't changed.

Posted by: Jay at August 25, 2010 3:14 PM

I worked for a theatre for a while, and I can guarantee you if management told me to watch out for the autistic kid with his own snacks, I would have been on the lookout to make sure that kid got into the theatre with his own cooler, if he wanted.

I am pretty amazed they even bothered you - I did not get paid enough to give a crap what people walked in with, although the bucket of chicken we once found after a show was pretty impressive.

The full dip cup however, was not. WTF people, I do not want to SEE let alone PICK UP your tobacco flem.

Posted by: twig at August 25, 2010 3:16 PM

I hate the theater too. Why see a film projected on 35mm as the director intended when I can watch it on my smartphone? DURGH!

Posted by: ElectricPriest at August 25, 2010 3:19 PM

Man, I will sneak food like a madman. I do not give a fuck.

That said, I loved going to the Alamo Drafthouse when I was in Texas. I'd love to see more theaters head in that direction.

And SLW, you are experiencing what many sports fans have felt for years: with the rising costs of going to a game, most just opt to improve their home theaters and watch the games at home and in comfort.

Posted by: Fredo at August 25, 2010 3:22 PM

Amen, brother. The theaters ARE getting worse. They are more militant stopping the outside food from coming in while also giving even less of a shit about people disrupting the movie with talking, cell phones, etc. Not to mention the sound tends to suck lately, at least around here. I can hear the herd of people around me crunching on popcorn better than I can hear the dialogue lately.

Yes, it IS better in most cases watching at home. Blu Ray is a far more pristine picture then most 35mm presentations simply because the projectors are usually underlit and dirty.

Also I tend to hate people (read: strangers) and there is a dearth of strangers in my house.

Posted by: TylerDFC at August 25, 2010 3:27 PM

oh AMC Theatres at the Fashion Valley mall, I'd know you anywhere....

Posted by: Kyle Janet at August 25, 2010 3:30 PM

Yet another reason I carry an insanely large purse. I can take two books, a small baby, a case of soda, and a couple bags of popcorn into the movies.

Posted by: Em at August 25, 2010 3:38 PM

simply because the projectors are usually underlit and dirty.

That sounds like a local problem.

Posted by: Jay at August 25, 2010 3:38 PM

I sneak food and drinks into the theater every single time I go, which is not very often. Every snack costs at least $4 at the big cinemas around here. So until they offer me a big box of Junior Mints for $2, I'll Harriet Tubman my Poppycock and filtered tap water past high school juniors all day, sucka.

Posted by: Kballs at August 25, 2010 3:41 PM

Well said post. It's worse if you want a date night and have kids. The cost of a half way decent (meaning they are good and will be so in the future) can be 20-40bucks, then the price of two tickets and you are shelling out 40-60 dollars!

Who is really willing and able to spend that much on a chick flick or indy film? Call me a yokel, but there is no way I am gonna spend that much on any film about some creep playing with a blow up doll or a story that's a travel guide with women chatting inanely about themselves throughout.

Nope. I like indy films, and I don't mind deep meaning in my shows, but once I am spending over the 30 dollar mark I want 2 of the following in a film:

1) space ships/or Science Fiction elements

2) machine gun fire

3) Explosions

4) Cool Superheros

5) Mind melting special effects


I realize that the theater experiance is not just geared towards families or parents with limited funds, but couples and singles as well, but I bet for many the same rule applies.

Forgive me my American Arrogance, but I just don't see the point for shelling out that much money for the other shows. Most Indy films, thrillers and chick flicks that don't fit in the above category really don't suffer being shrunk to home viewing. Generally they are just better telemovies blown up big and with a 6 month turnaround to DVD, why spend the extra money?

A dinner at a nice restaurant or watching live theater costs less for a date idea in some places when you add concessions and the experiance is better for the relationship. If you are single and like blowing your hard earned dollars on a film that you will be able to see for 50% off in 6 months then I have a bridge to sell you.


The filmed landscapes are affected I will grant you that, but I'm sorry shelling out that much for a movie landscape is assinine. Whenever I read "The landscape has been made a character of the film" it means "This is a boring film, but lookee it's purty". Uh-uh.

Heck I would rather pocket the money, save up and try to see the landscape my damn self.

But hey...I'm just a philistine.

Posted by: Chuckfilm at August 25, 2010 3:42 PM

They used to sell coffee at the theater near my apt. and for some reason stopped. Now I just buy it at any place close by and hid it in my purse.
But yeah, sometimes going to the theater sucks just because of the fact many ppl don't give a f*** that other ppl really want to watch and listen to the movie and not them making comments about every scene.

Posted by: MissRos at August 25, 2010 3:48 PM

The Alamo Drafthouse is working on expanding their franchise. With any luck, you'll get one (or more) in so cal soon. The theater is not dead, it just needs to evolve to survive. Honestly, many idjuts are just sheepishly accepting of this nonsense. I've pretty much sworn off anything but the Alamo and the art house style regal in my area (which is impressively staffed with free thinkers and one very sweet mentally handicapped ticket checker that everyone loves) for things I can't see at the Alamo. (and that's not much)

Posted by: Bonnye at August 25, 2010 3:49 PM

I don't the movie theater will cease to exist. They'll just need to adjust their business model. Lets hope they do it by encouraging quantity of purchases by lowering prices rather than taking the airlines model and charging us 15 bucks for a ticket and then another 5 dollars for an actual seat in the theater.

Posted by: Lennon at August 25, 2010 3:49 PM

That's why I love Drafthouse here in Austin. I get reasonably priced delicious pizza and beer with my movie. And they have age restrictions so I don't have to worry about screaming babies.

Posted by: menotyou at August 25, 2010 3:51 PM

The sweetie police aren't as militant here so you can sneak stuff in, but I'm with you, going to the cinema just isn't as fun any more, the cost alone takes off some of the sparkle. Unless it's an amazing must see at the cinema film I'm waiting for the DVD these days.

Posted by: Carrie at August 25, 2010 3:52 PM

I used to be able to get into free movies at our local cinema. There was a guy who worked there who'd just wave us in if we spent a certain amount of money on the food. We would just walk in with arms of popcorn, tepid soda, candy and whatever and he'd just let us go by, no problem. I think he either quit or they fired him because I haven't seen him around for about three months. I didn't understand why and didn't think about it, because hey Iron Man 2 for free, but I think that's why.

These days, I'd rather download the movie and watch it for free to see if it's worth the ticket and/or DVD price, rather than spend sixteen pounds for a so-so experience and having to eat overpriced crap for some arbitrary nonsense. Theaters are only good if you're with your friends and there's nothing on the telly.

Posted by: Ozzy at August 25, 2010 3:53 PM

Combine the subject of this post with MissRos comment and you have the primary reasons why I refuse to see a movie at the local googolplex.

Posted by: Spender at August 25, 2010 3:55 PM

If you're just now learning that theaters don't like people to bring in their own food, that they make their profit by charging an arm and a leg for things like popcorn, how old are you? Five?

Posted by: John W at August 25, 2010 3:59 PM

I agree with Bonnye 100%. As an Austin resident, I hadn't been to a non-Alamo theater in years. I went to see a movie at a local AMC recently (got a coupon from a friend) and I practically ran out of the place at the end. Never again...

Posted by: phaedawg at August 25, 2010 4:01 PM

I only ever brave the theater on a weeknight (when my local AMC only charges half price) if it's a movie that's worth the loss of sleep since I'll likely be home late. And you can bet I bring my big old purse for cheap snacks from the Walgreens next door to the theater.

Posted by: Bea Pants at August 25, 2010 4:02 PM

I used to love going to the university's movie theater because they didn't allow ANY food or drinks in. Your feet didn't stick to the floor, and nothing smelled like a garbage can. Plus, it was only $1. Who cares if it wasn't a current movie. It was always a good movie.

Posted by: BWeaves at August 25, 2010 4:07 PM

John W,

You've never seen people gather together and rail against a long-standing tradition that sucks ass? What are you, five?

Posted by: Kballs at August 25, 2010 4:07 PM

Nice piece. You know, I really enjoy going to the theater - the whole experience, even though people are annoying as hell. I can deal with the food rules and 27 trailers before the movie. But the part that's really pissing me off to the point of keeping me out of the theaters is this new addition of regular commercials. I'll be fucked if I'm going to the theater to be held hostage by Coke, Sprite and a bunch of other crap food I don't buy, eat or drink. Commercials infuriate me at home, but I can mute or fast forward; in the theater, if you want a decent seat you aren't afforded the luxury of skipping.

At least I can see quite a few films at the small art theaters where there are usually only a couple of trailers and zero commercials if you don't count the theaters' own promos for birthday parties or ticket deals. As far as I'm concerned, the multiplexes are forking themselves.

Posted by: Cindy at August 25, 2010 4:07 PM

I'm with ChuckFilm on this one. If the movie has any of those splodey good elements in it I will totally waste the $$ on a trip to see it on the big screen. I know, rationally, that The Expendables was not really worth what I paid in ticket and snack prices but damn if it didn't look better up there than it would have at my house - even on my giant HD flat screen. Inception was a big screen must see for me as well because it was so pretty. Most of the time I wait for cable/dvd if there aren't going to be the F/X in play to make it worth it though.

Posted by: JenVegas at August 25, 2010 4:11 PM

Yeah, the moviegoing experience has become unpleasant enough that it's worth enduring only if you really, really, really want to see a movie soon after it comes out. Otherwise, it's just not worth it, in time, in aggravation, in money...

Just FYI, Angelika (Dallas) let me bring in an outside drink (a Frappuccino, I think), but poured it into an Angelika-provided cup first. No argument. This was about a month ago.

Posted by: Slash at August 25, 2010 4:13 PM

You've never seen people gather together and rail against a long-standing tradition that sucks ass?

Well, complaining about movie theaters isn't new either, there's a group rant on it here every other week, and I've been hearing it all my whole life.

Posted by: Jay at August 25, 2010 4:15 PM

The only drawback to "brew and views" like the Alamo Drafthouse is the potential for cinematic beer googles.

I encountered this unfortunate effect during a "LOTR: Two Towers" and "Daredevil" double-feature. My buddy and I hadn't planned to stick around for "Daredevil", but after ordering pitcher after pitcher after pitcher during the "Two Towers" (not a short film), we were feeling very good about ourselves and decided to stick around and enjoy a few more pitchers. Needless to say, we stumbled out of that cinema drafthouse raving about how "awesome" and "great" "Daredevil" was.

It wasn't until much later when I finally caught "Daredevil" on cable and sober that I realized just how drunk I must have been.

It is awful, that movie.

Posted by: Forbiddendonut at August 25, 2010 4:23 PM

i just bring in a bottle of rum and buy soda at the theater...win/win

Posted by: chrisgio at August 25, 2010 4:37 PM

Put me in the corner that's spoiled by the Drafthouse. There are two, now, in San Antonio and a third is soon to open. One is only two miles from my apartment and the other is about five miles from my mother's house. If I want to see something alone, or see an indie flick I go to the nearby location. If it's a "GUYS FLICK!" meaning, lots of noise, lots of fun, I go to the other location with friends and/or my brother. Growlers are taken. Beer is consumed. Fun is had.

Posted by: lubeg at August 25, 2010 4:37 PM

I only go to the theater in certain situations.

1. If it's a movie my kids want to see, because I want to let them have the theater experience. (which is pretty awesome when dad is footing the bill.)

2. If it's a movie I NEEEED to see as soon as possible (e.g, Inception)

Posted by: Paul at August 25, 2010 4:42 PM

We used to frequent the local pub theaters but now that we only get out to a handful of movies per year I actually prefer the big movieplex experience, exorbitant costs and all. Makes it more like an event. I don't mind the high costs for the tiny candy portions (although I feel my stance changing on this), and we've been fortunate enough not to run into any of the movie going asshats that so frequently get mentioned here. We're also chronically late people when it comes to the movies, usually because we're sucking down that one last drink before entering the theater. This also helps soften the general unpleasantness.

Posted by: katy at August 25, 2010 4:44 PM

unlurking to let you know all you have to do is spazz out about being diabetic and only having enough money for a ticket and not enough for the concession and then declare smugly that what you have right here folks is a lawsuit in the making. they will allow outside food. my husband, the diabetic, brings a cooler to the movies with us. it helps if you can manage at least one low blood sugar commotion at least once a year at the local theatre to keep it fresh in their minds. (free candy and free drink. and if you have a kind manager sometimes free tickets if you end up missing a lot of the movie).

Posted by: stephanie at August 25, 2010 4:46 PM

I got distracted during my last thought. We're chronically late when seeing movies which means we miss all of the annoying commercials that are now part of the routine experience. Those would piss me off too, if I ever actually saw them.

Posted by: katy at August 25, 2010 4:46 PM

I'll Harriet Tubman my Poppycock

Sounds like the title of a YouPorn vid.

Posted by: Patty O'Green at August 25, 2010 5:00 PM

I'll put up with the no-outside food rule. I'll put up with the bad sound, the all-teenage staff. Hell, I'll pay a premium -- $15, even $18 a ticket. All I ask is four things:

1) Keep the damn picture in focus.

2) Turn out ALL the house lights, all the way, by the time the previews begin.

3) Station ushers in the house throughout the film, and authorize them -- no, REQUIRE them -- to physically expel any moth****cker who texts, reads his texts, takes or makes a call, lets his phone beep or ring, speaks above a whisper, or, even in a whisper, speaks a total of more than 30 seconds spread across the length of the movie.

4) After the first expulsion, put up the violator's picture in the box office and never allow him in again. Ever.

I'm not kidding. Keep the ***holes out of your theater and I'll pay anything you want and buy all the overpriced popcorn I can carry.

Posted by: Ned at August 25, 2010 5:02 PM

After getting into several verbal & physical fights about:

Bringing in outside food because i'm Diabetic,

Bad sound (Th' dts IS on! No, it's not!),

Oversold houses,

Over or underlit big &/or small screens,

Idiots who're makin' out & breathin' heavily, &/or texting, or talkin' on th' phone during th' trailers & movies,

Sticky floors,

Concession people who serve cold popcorn, lukewarm hot dawgs & drinks with too much ice & look at'cha stupidly when you say "No ice, please",

Broken or digital films that go out & you either have to go to another show, or accept a free pass to a movie that you don't want to see (don't you dare ask for a pass to a movie that's a special engagement!),

Crying or whiny kids (I tried to see piranha 3-D over th' weekend & had to get a manager to throw out th' dumb-ass parents who wouldn't take their terrified kids to another flick; he wouldn't do it, & wanted to throw ME out for complaining; so I PAID for them to see another movie to get them out), & ended up leavin' myself because I just got pissed over th' whole thing,

Parking that's in the outer reaches of space (AMC 30, you SUCK!!! it's murder in th' AZ summers!),
Smelly people (damn, dude! did'ja shower with that AXE body spray?!),

People who fight each other because they didn't like th' way someone looked at them, their boyfriend or girlfriend,

People who yell at th' acreen durin' th' movie,

Girls (and some dudes) who scream at everything, even when th' movie's not scary,

People who talk while in line at th' box office or concession stand or & then look at each other when it's their turn & go "I don't know what I want to see or get. What do you want?"

People who don't move because you may need the seat,

Older people who complain that;
"The movie's too loud!"
"What did he say?" and then the person next to them explains th' movie.., LOUDLY because th' fucker can't hear,
"It's too cold in here!"
"It's too hot in here!"
"It's too stuffy in here!"
"I didn't know they let Black people in here! When did they start doin' that?!"

Fartin' people, young & old...,

Those smelly, nasty bathrooms...,

An' all th' other aggravating factors about going to th' movies anymore makes me buy that very expensive & up to date system so I can cook dinner, & either watch it alone (th' best!), or invite friends (people who I WANT to see a movie with) & have a good movie watching experience!

Posted by: Sly D. at August 25, 2010 5:27 PM

After having worked at a movie theatre, I find it impossible to feel sorry for people complaining about being customers at movie theatres. I've dealt with too many assholes.

Posted by: Will at August 25, 2010 5:30 PM

@Will

I haven't worked at a movie theatre, but have worked in enough customer service oriented positions to feel the same as you.

Posted by: LowSlash at August 25, 2010 5:36 PM

Will, i've also worked at movie theaters from being an usher to managment, & had to put up with some people i wouldn't have minded meetin' in th parkin' lot after th' movie for some street justice.., (especially that woman who almost got me fired when the air conditioning went out in the theater. I offered to give peoples money back & a free pass to whoever wanted it. No one left th' theater. This bitch wanted her money back after the movie was over!)
and have!)
So that argument goes both ways.
Because of th' advent of home video, people have forgotten how to go to movies & mind their manners,
Oh, th' feets on th' seats on either side of yer head with th' shoes off!
Good Times!!

Posted by: Sly D. at August 25, 2010 5:40 PM

God bless the independent houses, then. I have been to several where they not only refuse such policies but also sell beer and wine. And honestly, to your point, places that sell concessions at a reasonable price (meaning not more than 110% what you'd pay at a drugstore) are more likely to get my money in the first place.

Concessions at name-brand, megaplexes aside, if I ever stop going to the movies it'll be b/c of talkers. God how they make me hate the human race sometimes. No joke.

Posted by: Trey Shacksit at August 25, 2010 5:43 PM

The movie-going experience is indeed becoming increasingly annoying. That said, a TV screen is no rival to watching a GOOD film at the theater. Let's face it, films like LAWRENCE OF ARABIA, THE GODFATHER, THERE WILL BE BLOOD and INCEPTION were meant to be seen on the big screen. I stick it to movie theaters by bringing my own food/drinks all the time. Just re-use your stylish Gap or Banana Republic bag from a previous purchase, stuff it with your dietary goods and the pimply-faced theater employee will never question you. Works for me all the time. I also theater hop and sometimes get two/three movies in for the price of one. (Look, with the shit Hollywood is churning out most days, I feel I need to get my money's worth). The Grove, by the way, is the easiest and most convenient place to theater hop. It's hipster central and no one really gives a shit about the movie they're watching, plus the ushers are all gaga over what celebrity they may spot, which allows me to conviniently theater hop. Suck it, exhibitors.

Posted by: Neo at August 25, 2010 5:55 PM

What, no equal rant about the 3-D crap?

Except for a very limited, narrow range of films, 3-D is unnecessary, CRAP and simply just evil. Especially when it induces a headache.

Posted by: idiosynchronic at August 25, 2010 6:12 PM

Sly, are you missing keys on your keyboard? My sympathy, buddy, because my cat has popped off the "X", "Z" and ":" keys off my laptop, and it's a real bitch to work around.

Am I right? Or do you just have an apostrophe fetish?

Posted by: Wednesday at August 25, 2010 6:30 PM

I sneaked in an entire Burger King meal (including the drink) and a big bag of Peanut M&M's into the movies yesterday. I watched The Expendables, the last 40 minutes of Despicable Me and then saw Salt. I call it the Double Feature.

Look, it all depends on the theater you go to I guess but most people don't care as long as you aren't making it obvious. If you simply put the coffee under your shirt, even if you were holding it in your hand, the girl wouldn't have said anything. It's only when its blatantly obvious that they have to stop you.


And the theaters will not die, and I figured out why. People always want to get out of their house. It doesn't matter if they can get the same thing at home...its the fact that you are "going out" that matters. Movie theaters will stay.

Posted by: Littlejon2001 at August 25, 2010 6:32 PM

Sly D. You tickle me.

Oh, th' feets on th' seats on either side of yer head
No shoes on! No shoes on!
Meet me in the parking lot, you end up dead
...

Posted by: Trey Shacksit at August 25, 2010 6:42 PM

I would go to the movies more often-hell, even pay twice as much- if:

1. I could be guaranteed an audience full of respectful people.
2. If they served cocktails/beer
3. If they had "booths" available for reservation.
4. If they had adults-only times/theaters.
5. If they had less frigging commercials.

Any combination of 2 or more items would be enough. Feel free to add your own.

Posted by: logar at August 25, 2010 7:04 PM

I am too old to go to the movies:

I have had so much dental work that I have my oral surgeon and dentist as favorites on my cellphone. So the mere idea of eating popcorn makes me twitch. (Those little kernels!!!)

I hate 3D. Gives me a headache.

The sound bothers me. Too loud.

It's always about 30 degrees colder in the movie theatre than it is any where else on earth.

And then there's the people. Apparently other people have this silly idea that they should be allowed to watch the same movie I'm watching in the same place I'm watching it and that's supposed to be okay.

I'm going to skip the part about people bringing babies to see "The Dark Knight" and talking throught the whole damn thing because I think that's a given.

Posted by: greer at August 25, 2010 7:11 PM

Did anyone else think this story was going to end Seinfeld style with him pouring coffee on himself?

Posted by: MrPink at August 25, 2010 7:28 PM

You beat me to it Kyle, Fashion Fuckin' Valley. I used to live in San Diego and just went back after 9 years away. And the Cinnabon was gone. I could have cried- that was the only redeeming quality to that uppity, high-class, stores for rich fuckers mall.

I sneak food and drink if I can. So sue me, its not against the law. Like Homer said after reading the sign in the men's room, "that's YOUR policy."

Posted by: EJ at August 25, 2010 8:12 PM

Ever since I heard about the Alamo Drafthouse I knew that would one more reason I'm looking to move to Austin after I graduate from college next May.

As for the movie theatre experience, I didn't go very frequently as a kid (unless my friends took me) and I don't go very much now. Mostly because I know I can see bootleg copies of most movies online. Though we do have a couple of good independent theatres here in Baltimore. If I do go to the movies I try to a) go in the morning when it's much, much emptier or b) go to the cheapest showing, the matinee. But I generally eat something before I go to the movie and only get snacks if I'm feeling like a splurge or someone else is buying.

Though this was a very entertaining ready SLW. Very Seinfeld-esque.

Posted by: grace b at August 25, 2010 8:19 PM

Two points I would like to express:

1) What the ridiculous cost and inhospitable environment of movie theaters does to the Hollywood system based on immediate returns versus returns based on dvd sales as well as theater profits. Some movies are worth seeing on the big screen (either for the special affects or the ambiance feel of an opening night event) but they are few and far between. That means that a lot of good movies aren't going to get that box office draw that studios love, but are actually quit profitable in the long run.

2) I miss living in Prague. The movies themselves were insanely expensive but the concessions were cheap, you could by beer with your popcorn (so awesome and it came with a straw so you never had to take your eyes of the screen), unless it was an actual woop or laugh moment that audience was fucking silent, and the movie listings had two start times (one for the start of the adverts and the other for the actual start time of the film). American cinema: Please take notes.

Posted by: Morgan Lefai at August 25, 2010 8:47 PM

someone mentioned the Angelika in dallas, but there's also the Magnolia. both are really nice theaters generally filled with respectable adults. and they both serve booze. and they both have a great track record with showing the smaller indie films you never see anywhere else.

Posted by: jesuschrysler at August 25, 2010 9:33 PM

I was getting tired of movie theaters and then I moved to Austin and discovered Alamo. Now I'm insanely spoiled and only go to the Regal theater in the Arboretum to see the foreign and indie films that Alamo doesn't carry (someone else mentioned this theater as well).
I always spend too much at the Alamo on food, but I enjoy myself so much that I don't even mind. The soft drinks are $4, but they're big and you get free refills. The food is good, the popcorn is awesome (and has real butter), and they are SO stringent about age limits for kids and no talking. Seriously, the no talking ads crack me up (the really old lady threatening to kick your ass out into an alley was great) and then they play this really ominous music and tell you that they're not kidding about everyone shutting the fuck up during the movie.

I love it. I don't know if I can ever move to a new city.

Posted by: MyySharona at August 25, 2010 11:14 PM

Wednesday..., Yes, and so whut...?
Trey.., I've been close to Death many times before & I ain't afraid; i'll fight for th' right to watch a film or manage a theater th' way i see fit...,
Our only independent theater company in th' Valley of SB1070 has expanded into a chain that likes to think of itself as independent while pushin' out the true small theaters & giving th' ones that fight back a hard time.
I agree with Neo that some films cannot be experienced except on a big screen, i've been locky enough to have seen all of the ones mentioned plus a few more in 70mm & 6 track stereo on a HUGE screen, with earth-shaking surround sound plus glorious IMAX.
I may not be able to recreate a theater, but I have DLP digital projection, 7.1 surround & thick enough walls as to not disturb th' neighbors!

Posted by: Sly D. at August 25, 2010 11:42 PM

*weeps copious tears for the absence of an Alamo Drafthouse in his town, state, region and half of America*

,daughter used to work box office at the summer public musical theater in town. She says a customer once demanded his money back because the rain machine didn't work at "Singin' in the Rain."

That's probably her best asshole story, but far from the only one.

Posted by: , at August 26, 2010 12:54 AM

I used to work at a movie theater for a good 3 years during my high school daysn(like a lot of you guys) and of course that was our policy too.

I made a point to let everyone bring in outside food. I hated when managers would tell me to not let the girl with a smoothie come in. It was the worst part of the job. A lot of times I would just tell the customer to wait in the lobby for a few minutes or go hide the food in a bag and come back when the manager was gone.

So in defense of the poor teenage shmuck tearing your ticket, they probably hate telling you not to bring it in way more than you hate being told 'it's policy'.

I would hate to see movie theaters die or fall to some novelty status. I still think there's something almost magical about it. I just wish there was a simple solution to a failing business model in the days of cheap home theaters and netflix.

Maybe more theaters should sell beer/wine and maybe improve the quality of food to justify the expense of concessions. I could get behind that.

Posted by: THRILLHO at August 26, 2010 1:21 AM

hey folks, in germany we have the same problems with cinemas dying. the small ones just close one after another and the big ones only cash in with stupid movies in 3D. since 3 years i only go to the cinema 3-4 times a year. this week it was "inception" wich i definetly wanted to see on the big screen. the good thing is, they don´t control your bags when you enter the cinema. here is what we sneaked in this time:

- 2 bottles of cooled whitewine (put in an aluminium drinking bottle)
- 2 bags of chips
- 1 bag with sweets
- 3 big plastic cups

years ago we did the stupid thing to buy softdrinks in the cinema and then refill the original cups with the good stuff. now that i´am older i just don´t give a fuck anymore.

Posted by: seen it at August 26, 2010 4:54 AM

Cineplex gestapo? When my kids were just kiddies I would bring a diaper bag with me loaded with bags of freshly popped popcorn, a few bottled drinks, and some sweets. Can you imagine the smell of that popcorn wafting in the air? Yet no one stopped me. Where did you go that the kids working the counters and ticket kiosks give a flying fuck? As for that story about the kid on a special diet. Really? They called the theatre for permission? I'd have rammed my boot up their arse first. Just pack a "medical" bag and have at it.

Personally, my home TV is no where near as big and epic as the movie screen, my sound system suffers by comparison too. And that's not discussing the shared feeling of seeing a really good movie in mass. Yes, the cost is ludicrous but I find my theatre experience OK. What we suffer from is a lack of really good movies, IMO.

Posted by: SittingPat at August 26, 2010 8:54 AM

Y'know, I'm not sure I'm down with the "ridiculous cost" argument. Yes, as an art form for the masses, movies should be fairly cheap. And yet... Look at what people shell out for a football or baseball game -- even $30-$50 for the cheap seats. (Let's not even TALK about the cost of concessions -- the food and drinks at sports venues make the cost of movie popcorn look like, um, peanuts.) Look what it costs to see a play. Look, movies, plays and games all add up to the same thing: 2 to 3 hours of entertainment. Movies remain by far the cheapest show you can get outside of your house.

Posted by: Ned at August 26, 2010 10:15 AM

Ned:

Movies and theater are not the same. If you live in an area that is so bereft of good live theater, then I am sorry, but you are wrong.

Theater is ephemeral, each performance unique. They do not film it. You cannot go back and see it again (unlike most major sports team games).

As for comparing the cost to watching football..okay I am too baised against spectator sports to even get into that argument, so to be fair I will not.

Remember, you are shelling out money for something you will get to see for less in 8months time tops.

Posted by: Chuckfilm at August 26, 2010 4:50 PM

I must be one of the exceptions - I don't see a necessary link between watching a film and consuming food or drink.

I can go several hours between meals - plenty of time to fit a movie in. And I actually don't drink at the movie theater because it increases the likelihood that I'll have to leave my seat to go to the bathroom.

I've been to Alamo , and it's definitely nice to have a good meal while watching. But I'm also perfectly willing to do them separately.

So, concession prices are not a factor for me in deciding whether to see a film at the theater or wait for DVD.

Posted by: Pat C at August 26, 2010 6:33 PM

Chuckfilm: I am a professional actor, and I live in a town with a rich theatre community. I was not meaning to degrade the stage. I don't care for sports either. I was just saying'.

Posted by: Ned at August 26, 2010 7:57 PM