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The Astounding Mediocrity of James Franco and the Muddled Message of Planet of the Rise of the Apes

By Michael Murray | Posted Under Think Pieces | Comments (60)



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I’m not sure if my opinion is informed by having seen too many James Franco films or not enough, but I sure hate watching him in the movies. He’s a wooden, lifeless actor and I was astounded when he was nominated for Best Lead in that Mountain Dew commercial of a picture, 127 Hours. Enacting an experience that was inescapably profound and practically religious in nature, Franco managed to convey nothing that suggested an interior journey. It was actually a stunning, almost anti-performance, and it just goes to show what insane and delusional lengths Hollywood will go to in order to create a star.

I think my favorite thing that Franco ever did was that piece for the New York Times that featured 14 actors acting. Franco, boozy, wordless and looking hot in a rent-boy moustache, made out with himself in a mirror, and that worked.

But the rest of his work?

Meh.

I saw Rise of the Apes on the weekend and my feelings about him only deepened. I certainly wasn’t expecting much. I just wanted to get out of the heat, have Big Hollywood wash over me and stare blankly at a screen full of Apes who were destined to take over the planet. But man alive, Franco, even amidst the swirl of CGI Apes, seemed little more than an Animatronic representation of himself, and the movie was just two hours of monkeys screaming, which wasn’t what I had in mind when I stepped into the dark box of the theatre.

Undeniably smart, even slick, the movie was a polished and emotionally disconnected production that made me yearn for the original series and Lord help me, even the Tim Burton offering back in 2001.

That movie, if you’ll recall, starred Mark Wahlberg.

wahl.jpgThere is perhaps nobody on the planet, be it populated by Apes or otherwise that has the capacity to be as flat an actor as Wahlberg. When he’s cast properly, he’s a genius, but miscast, he’s even worse than Franco, which is pretty damn bad. And playing alongside him in this movie was non-acting supermodel Estella Warren. In portraying a kind of empowered, post-feminist version of the mute, sexpot slave of the original, she somehow managed to make caveman bikinis about as much of a turn-on as government worker with a bus pass hanging from around his neck.

At any rate, what I hoped to see in both remakes was an adult amplification of the original. The tone Planet of the Apes was really just an extended version of an episode of “The Twilight Zone,” and I wanted to see it morph into a truly horrifying, even traumatic film. The Apes would be manic, vacillating wildly between a proto-human civility and brutal, primal rage. They’d rip limbs off of humans, devour them in bloody fistfuls and have crazy monkey sex! The tension would have been unbelievable, but the reboots were kept family friendly, the sort of summer fare that would move product and reach the largest demographic.

The most recent Ape film chose to bring realism to the franchise, which in my mind was completely missing the point. The creation myth surrounding Planet of the Apes doesn’t have to be intellectually credible, it just needs to be a trippy freak-out. Not understanding why things were the way they were was part of the disorienting brilliance of it.

At heart, I guess I hate the idea of prequels, seeing the majority of them as superfluous cash grabs that are just tacked-on to an already completed work of art.

mutants.jpgNo matter, that’s a big topic and all I will say is that seeing Rise of the Apes and feeling wholly emotionally disconnected from the experience, made me nostalgic for the original and so I popped in an old VHS of Beneath the Planet of the Apes. It turned out to be a pretty crappy movie, actually, but it was sincerely weird and unsettling, more like a fever than a film experience. A mutant race of radiation-scarred humans lived underground and worshipped the bomb! They wore liturgical cloaks and in a bloodless, zombie-like way intoned sung prayers that transported me back in time to my brief and joyless experience in the Anglican church as a child.

It’s probably fair to say that I grew up in a Post-Christian culture as the dominant influences acting upon my peers and I were populist and humanistic in nature rater than religious. Nobody I knew ever spoke about their religious beliefs, and if one were to do so, they would have been considered weird, and weird in a much more sincere way that say Goths or Punks. At our high school a Christian Club existed, but there were only a few people in it, typically introverted immigrant children who had yet to figure out where the mainstream lay.

My family was nominally Anglican, and for one or two years we made a go of attending the local church, which was an activity I hated immediately and with great sincerity. For the life of me, I could not understand why I had to get up early on Sunday morning, dress-up in an obvious misrepresentation of who I was and spend an hour in spooky building that was as dark, tense and quiet as a coffin. There were barbaric depictions of a man hammered into a cross all over the place and a funereal sobriety that suffocated any possibility of pleasure.It was utterly mystifying to me and I saw my forced attendance as a punishment for an unknown crime.

And whenever I tried to figure out what was going on and asked a question, I was sharply hushed.

“Who wrote The Bible?”

“Has anybody ever seen God? “

“Is praying to him like writing to Santa?”

“The Devil has horns and lives in fire with bad people while the good people get wings and live on clouds? Why don’t they fly back to Earth?

“Why do we have to be so quiet?”

“For. The. Last. Time. Michael. BE QUIET!”

The church basement where Sunday school took place was cold and smelled of old people and candles. You weren’t allowed to play with other children and just sat there listening to weird Bible stories that never seemed to have a clear moral lesson. I got so much more out of comic books and movies like Star Wars or Planet of the Apes, where concepts of Good and Evil were conveyed with much greater clarity and relevance than the ambiguities of the antique fables we heard from the Bible.

For many of us, inspiration, moral instruction and spiritual comfort comes not from that which is rigidly contained within an ancient book, but by the culture that encircles the world in which we live. And this means pop culture, which constantly churns, reinvents and reinterprets our foundational myths, forming the modern Bible by which we live. When Planet of the Apes is remade and we see Caesar rising up against his creator, we feel the biblical echo of Lucifer rebelling against God, but in a contemporary vernacular that sparks imagination and debate, leading us from the past and helping us evolve into the waiting future.

Michael Murray is a freelance writer. He presently lives in Toronto. You can find more of his musings on his blog, or check out his Facebook page.









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Comments

Yeah! Another person who didn't like Rise of the Planet of the Apes! Welcome, brother!

Posted by: Will at August 12, 2011 1:19 PM

wow, i like this website and all but sometimes you guys just seem too jaded. Not that I like to just go into a movie and turn my brain off, but try and just watch a movie and appreciate it for what it is. Not try and put it on your own imaginary scale that it can't match up to

Posted by: Jean Ralphio at August 12, 2011 1:28 PM

I could have written almost every sentence in this post (if I were a better writer), except the parts about 127 Hours, which I haven't seen. I think Franco and Wahlberg are fairly poor actors, and even with Dustin's good review of Rise I'm hesitant to see it because of the rating. I mean, those apes should be flinging poo and biting people's hands off and smashing their heads into the pavement until there's nothing left, and how the hell are they gonna show that in a PG-13 movie?

AND we went to church for a couple of years when I was a kid, and I hated every instant of it.

Posted by: Todd at August 12, 2011 1:31 PM

"Christian Mingle... find God's match for you"

Seriously? Is that a random ad or selected specifically for me from my cookie history? Because just seeing it makes me feel a little stabby right now.

Sorry for being off topic but I needed to vent.

Posted by: snapnhiss at August 12, 2011 1:35 PM

My husband, who knows zero about celebrities, saw Charlie Rose's interview with James Franco and commented on how dumb Franco seemed.

Posted by: samantha t at August 12, 2011 1:48 PM

It's obviously ok snapnhiss since this entire article is off topic. Somehow we started on James Franco, came around to the old planet of the apes movies (still see how he got there,) and end with a somehow pseudo-religious reading of Rise of the planet of the apes? Weird waste of an article. And I agree with Jean Ralphio, you guys are getting really really jaded. Like emo levels of "noone understands me or what art is except for me," levels of snobbery. Personally I find Franco a perfectly likable actor.

Posted by: aroorda at August 12, 2011 1:49 PM

Reading this, even after I saw the byline first, is my own mistake.

Posted by: Ernesto at August 12, 2011 2:17 PM

But don't you see aoorda - it's all meta. The message of the movies are lost, so the message of the review-article-rambling are as well. Very clever.

Posted by: Ernesto at August 12, 2011 2:21 PM

All I can think of with those damn dirty apes running around in the trailer is that poor woman who lost her face to a 200lb "pet" chimpanzee. She must get friggin flashbacks everytime she sees ( or hears, not sure if her new eyes work) that ad.

Monkeys are not nice and not cuddley, leave them in the jungle where they belong.

MM, I had to go through the same crap at church as a kid. Back then you were almost ostracized if you didn't attend services or believe in God. At least now, with all the crack-pot religious fanatics out there, normal people don't tend to question your beliefs anymore. Thank you religious fanatics.

Posted by: kirbyjay at August 12, 2011 2:26 PM

WTF? I got this error message after trying to post: Fail! Your comment submission was a no-go because it broke one of the rules: (there wasn't a reason listed.)

No bad words, nothing insulting toward the author of this column.

What fucking rules?

Posted by: snapnhiss at August 12, 2011 2:29 PM

Franco was on Conan this week, and I thought it was one of the most hilarious and charming interviews I've seen in a while.

Posted by: Mel C. at August 12, 2011 2:34 PM

Franco is likeable -- watch his "Daily Show" interview and you see someone with a lot of intelligence and charm -- but he's so hit-and-miss in so many roles. I still have no idea what he was going for in Pineapple Express.

Posted by: Fredo at August 12, 2011 2:40 PM

I don't dislike James Franco at all. In fact, I think he's an interesting guy, I just don't think he's shown any evidence that he can act. It might be that he's picked really flat, comic-booky roles so that he can reach the biggest audience, or it might just be that his talents and charms lie in other fields than acting.

Posted by: Michael Murray at August 12, 2011 2:44 PM

What a dumb, pointless, rambling "article." No one gives a shit about your church experiences, Dipshit. "When I was a kid...blah, blah, blah...and we were happy to have it, Dagnabbit!"

Shut the fuck up.

God damn this website has really gone downhill.

Posted by: Case at August 12, 2011 2:52 PM

Maybe it's because they share an inability to open their eyes all the way, but I thought his Golden Globe for James Dean was deserved. I enjoyed him in that role.

Posted by: elizabeth at August 12, 2011 2:58 PM

Jesus H. Tapdancing Christ, Case, no one is forcing you to read these articles. Fuck off.

Posted by: STFU at August 12, 2011 3:09 PM

snaphiss, usually when I get that message it's because I forgot to fill in the name and email fields. Or maybe you had some sort of link in it that was rejected? I don't know.

But looking at the comments here, clearly swearing and insulting the author aren't against whatever rules there are.

Posted by: Socrates_Johnson at August 12, 2011 3:14 PM

I stopped reading at " emotionally disconnected"... REALLY? You did not feel for Cesar at all? There was a great emotional through line in the movie, not to mention how the apes will take over had a very feasible background. And James Franco was really good in this. I did think their story did not end and they are probably gonna make a movie continuing this storyline and I actually hope for it. I was positively excited and was surprisingly moved by the movie.

So, yeah, to me personally, your opinions were not worth following through, unlike the movie you thought was terrible. So there's that. And if you say you don't care for my opinion then why should we care for yours?

Posted by: yocean at August 12, 2011 3:16 PM

Did I miss the part where he said he doesn't care about your opinion?

I'm actually a bit shocked that a personal essay (and if you haven't noticed by now, that's what Micheal contributes to the site) could whip people up into such a furor.

Posted by: Socrates_Johnson at August 12, 2011 3:28 PM

Rise of the Apes, a very intelligently conceived movie, was made as a launching point for a series of films to follow. Whether an individual thinks it was a "good" movie or not is entirely personal and subjective. I was less impressed with the CGI than most, I think, and was disappointed that it played out the narrative in such a gaming, all-inclusive way. It might seem obvious to say, and it's a huge and very valid debate in which both reasonable and unreasonable people might disagree, but I would have felt much more empathy with Caesar is he was a real Chimp and not a CGI generated one.

I like the CGI when it brings realism to disasters, when New York City is frozen or washed over by the sea, but less so when it animates living creatures. I like it's application at a distance, and not up close, and fear as with any technology, people use it because it exists, because it's novelty is inherently appealing, and not because it serves the story.

Posted by: Michael Murray at August 12, 2011 3:50 PM

i'm definitely of the opinion that art is inherently subjective in how its received, so 'different strokes for different folks' and all that.

but how anyone could view this movie and not find ANY emotional attachment to the Caesar character is beyond me. there are multiple truly heart-rending moments where i figured it was impossible NOT to relate to Caesar and the emotional pain he's going through. Serkis and the CGI artists put more depth into this ape than many Oscar-nominated actors/roles i've seen before. overall, the movie is certainlly not Oscar worthy and by no means would i call it a 'classic', but the Caesar character is worth the price of admission alone.

that Mr. Murray actually thought a comparison to the schlocky Beneath the Planet of the Apes helped make his point finally clued me in to the simple fact that he is just out of it.

Posted by: Mike at August 12, 2011 4:02 PM

@Mike

It's the combination of allergies and humidity that make me so out of it. Everything drowsy and slow, tastes of sleeping pills and smog.

I certainly don't think that Beneath the Planet of the Apes is a better movie than Rise of the Apes. Hell no! Beneath was a cheap, creepy mess, and Rise was polished and slick as a new car, so many of which were product placements prominently featured in the film.

The CGI infected Caesar was as good as it gets with the technology available. They did the best job that could be done, and you're right that real actors are often less compelling than other delivery systems. I mean, a painting or a piece of animation can move me a whole lot more than even the best efforts of a terrible actor.

I just like the idea of the Apes series as either weirdo camp, or flat-out, blood-spattering terror, and I think in Rise they took the safe, commercially viable middle ground, and it made me miss the old movies is all.

Posted by: Michael Murray at August 12, 2011 4:21 PM

Wow. The crazies are coming out of the woodwork today.

Rise of the Planet of the Trolls

Posted by: Paultera at August 12, 2011 4:32 PM

Now THAT makes sense to me MM. My bad, I didn't mean to get all troll-y on you up there.

Posted by: aroorda at August 12, 2011 4:34 PM

Rise of the shitty reviews.
pack it in Pajiba... you've outlived your catch phrase and your worth.

Posted by: mothy at August 12, 2011 4:57 PM

Mr. Murray,

Apparently commenters from YouTube have accidentally discovered this post.

It is one thing to disagree with your opinion, it is another to make vicious personal attacks.

They are assholes, not because I disagree with their opinion of your piece, but because they have proven it with their conduct.

I am sorry you are receiving this much abuse.

Posted by: Rollins at August 12, 2011 5:02 PM

Mister Rollins, class act:

You're kind words are sincerely appreciated, but although there are many who take such things personally, I am not one of them.

I fear I didn't express myself as clearly or coherently as I would have liked to in this essay, which is why I'm so active on the board today. I'm not exactly trying to defend myself, but rather make clearer my intent, which really reduces to this: Pop Culture is a good and true thing, something that speaks to us more clearly and with more latitude for debate and disagreement, than does say, religion. Whether you like Rise of the Apes or Planet of the Apes or James Franco is secondary, what is important is that we can each take something from the experience of participating in and sharing an artistic experience.

Something along those lines, anyway.

Posted by: Michael Murray at August 12, 2011 5:29 PM

MM,
Between this Mercury-in-retrograde shit, meteor showers and an impending full moon I wouldn't take any of this personally. Everyone I've talked to today is hungover, out-of-sorts and on edge (myself included.) It's just sort of a hateful day.

Today I yelled at a crippled man in Walmart and I dont feel remotely guilty about it. Losing the use of your legs in no way entitles you to be a rude, oblivious prick, ESPECIALLY in a place where I have no regard for human life anyways (not children, not the elderly) and ESPECIALLY when I'm trying to buy school supplies. I guess I just prefer to do my trolling in real life.

But I digress...while I don't agree with all of your views regarding Franco and the issue of the realism, I also recognize the fact that it is the opposing opinions of the columnists that bring me to this site every day. For fuck's sake, if you feel the need to disagree then, by all means, disagree with the man. Just try not to make yourself out to be just another ignorant asshole commenter.

(And before anyone jumps up my ass, yes I did check to see if crippled dude was mentally handicapped as well. He wasn't. He was just a stupid dick.)

Posted by: E the B at August 12, 2011 5:40 PM

mothy,
It's not a review. It's just a humorous article. As is Mr. Murray's writing style. If you read Pajiba enough to tell them what they've "outlived" than you should know who the writers are already.

Posted by: Paultera at August 12, 2011 5:52 PM

I have not watched the new Apes movie, but the path of Michael Murray's ruminations entertain as always.

Posted by: DarthCorleone at August 12, 2011 7:32 PM

"Perfectly likeable" is a poor endorsement of an actor. If I wanted perfectly likeable I'd watch reruns of BJ and the Bear all damn day.

As for the pussies who clicked here looking for a review of a mediocre film and were disappointed that the "review" actually followed that line at the top that described what the article was going to be about... Do you even understand what writing is? What words mean? Or are you just here for instant gratification? Or is it that your internet brains are too jitzed on Cheetos and Mountain Dew to grasp more than 5 seconds worth of info before flinging your retard troll shit at the bars?

There's also this little sub-heading called Think Pieces, which also should have pinged your reptile brains with the info that this wasn't a straight-up review of a mediocre film. It is an article, a pondering, a treatise on the thoughts the author had about the film and the actor and the genre. Not your chicken cordon bleu hobby kit.

Posted by: Protoguy at August 12, 2011 9:07 PM

Sounds like you just wanted a different story than this film was telling. Doesn't make this film bad, and the apes were not meant to be wild beasts in that way--that's just not the story.

Posted by: immature at August 12, 2011 9:30 PM

I's don't knows how to think protoguy! I'm too busy photoshopping cats into pictures of mine to do that!

I'm not retarded I know what a "think piece" is, I just didn't get MM's point, which he has since made in later points. As he said, whether you like Franco or the movie is secondary, that's just not something I picked up in the initial reading.

As far as his treatise on the actor, I still disagree, though I do see the point he's making.

P.S. What does jitzed mean? Is it a combination of jizzed and blitzed? Cause if it is, it just entered my vocabulary NOW.

Posted by: aroorda at August 12, 2011 9:34 PM

Sorry, I think I lost my sense of humor with my lymph nodes.

And jizz blintzes sounds horrifying

Posted by: Protoguy at August 12, 2011 9:48 PM

Oh, I got the message of Planet of the Apes loud and clear.

Science = baaaaaad.

Posted by: linny at August 12, 2011 10:02 PM

but I would have felt much more empathy with Caesar is he was a real Chimp and not a CGI generated one.

I respect the director for not falling into the hypocrisy of respecting animals and having them be the heroes of the film while technically torturing apes to create it (trained apes aren't the most abused animals, but they're not having the time of their lives either, that's for sure). And I personally empathized a shitload for Caesar, and thought the CGI was fantastic. I also thought the Serkis and and Franco weren't even in the same LEAGUE of acting. Franco is just... not a great actor. That's just my opinion, though.

And I have to say, I stopped reading this article after Michael "yearned" for the Tim Burton film. I'm mostly commenting on the comment above.

Posted by: Marcela at August 12, 2011 10:20 PM

And shouldn't the headline read: "The Astounding Mediocrity of James Franco and the Muddled Message of Rise of the Planet of the Apes", not "The Astounding Mediocrity of James Franco and the Muddled Message of Planet of the Rise of the Apes"?

Posted by: Marcela at August 12, 2011 10:22 PM

Michael Murray, I know that insults roll off your Fedora and down the back of your London Fog trenchcoat as you wander the streets of Clonardia, seeking out-evil doers and preventing injustices.
Still, there have been some rather harsh comments placed in this thread and I would like to say one thing to these miscreants.
Michael Murray is an amazingly talented writer who has a gift for seeing life as it is, how it could be and how it should be. He can make you laugh like a fool or he can have you in tears. He is thoughtful, insightful and intelligent. His prose can, if you have a scrap of imagination, creates mind movies that you might want to live in.
He certainly doesn't need my defense. He has proven himself time and again as an author to be reckoned with.
Now, as I am not nearly as eloquent as Mr. Murray, I do try to be, so to all of you casting aspersions on one of my favorite writers, an invitation.

You Are ALL Cordially Invited To Go FUCK Yourselves.

Sincerely,

DS

Posted by: Spender at August 12, 2011 10:33 PM

Freaks and Geeks, that's all I'm saying.

Posted by: junierizzle at August 13, 2011 12:29 AM

Spender, you said exactly what I would have liked to have said most eloquently and I completely agree with you and others up-thread.

Mike, I still giggle and think about your personal training story when I go see my own personal trainer every week. I am still gutted by your pet post recently. Thank you for all of your great writing and I will be always excited to read whatever you type in the future.

Cheers and well wishes to you and yours, Mike.

Posted by: mc-rox at August 13, 2011 1:12 AM

Protoguy,

I'm wandering way off topic here, but as one who has doctors monitoring stage 1 sarcoidosis in his chest, I would appreciate enlightenment as to the nature of your cancer and what is being done to beat it.

Thanks.

Carry on with insulting and/or defending MM, the rest of you.

Posted by: , at August 13, 2011 1:25 AM

Click on my name, it'll take you to my blog. 'splains too much more than everythang

Posted by: Protoguy at August 13, 2011 4:32 AM

Sorry to keep the thread so off-topic, but just from a quick read, yours is far different than mine. Any help I can give ya though, protoguy11@yahoo.com

Posted by: Protoguy at August 13, 2011 5:01 AM

Mothy and Case are always trolls. They never contribute any comment of any value to the site and speak up only when they feel the need to spew poorly articulated hatred at one of the Pajiba staff or commenters. They're entirely useless people.

yocean, I'm actually kind of surprised at your somewhat ridiculous and confusingly defensive comment because you normally contribute something interesting and reasonable to the conversation. Perhaps I've misinterpreted your comment.

MM, this article was hilarious. AS ALWAYS. I'd decided to re-start it after the first two paragraphs and read it aloud to my boyfriend because it was cracking me up so much that he wanted to know what I was reading. I haven't read a Pajiba article aloud to him in a long time.

It makes perfect sense that a comment board full of people who could relate so well to a CGI ape got nothing from one of the most personally revelatory writers on the site. You know, they score these things with tomatoes or something on another site. Maybe that would be more to your liking?

In conclusion, don't ever talk about how downhill Pajiba has gone because it's horrible, humourless pricks like yourselves that have tried to and sometimes successfully turned the comment sections into boring, shitty, anti-discussions through your hatefulness. I hope you are mauled to death by intelligent apes.

(A true change from the way things "used to be" on the site is that people are now encouraged to express themselves even if they do it in the most aggressively negative and shitty way possible. Not by everyone but by a vocal group who feel the site should be wholly inclusive. People who personally attacked other people or writers and people who only contributed negative feedback to every article used to be, rightfully, turned into objects of scorn and derision and invited to go fuck themselves by pretty much all regulars. I don't like this whole "everyone is not only entitled to their opinion but given equal respect and platform for their opinion no matter how shitty and mean it is!" attitude because if you can't hate on obvious shit birds and hoopleheads then who can you hate on? I have to be able to hate someone, people.

It was nice to see people defend Mr. Murray and really come out against some of the resident trolls.)

Posted by: becks at August 13, 2011 9:40 AM

Let's sum this up then.

- Franco sucks.
- There needed to be more sex and violence.
- They're trying to make this new Planet of the Apes movie too realistic.
- Sure "Beneath" sucked, but at least it was weird and over the top nonsense. (Or something.)
- Begins sermon....
- Doesn't end sermon.

Perhaps if you spent the whole time on the sermon you could have finished it off properly. I was actually interested by that bit.

Posted by: Fatpie42 at August 13, 2011 10:46 AM

I hate every ape I see, from Chimpan-A to Chimpan-Z, but you'll never make a monkey out of me.

"Monkeys are not nice and not cuddley, leave them in the jungle where they belong."

Monkeys aren't donkeys!

I mean...chimpanzees aren't monkeys!

Posted by: Some Guy at August 13, 2011 10:59 AM

"'Minky'?"

"What?"

"You said 'minky.'"

"Yes, that is what I said, chimpanzee minkey."

Posted by: , at August 13, 2011 11:10 AM

,

I was HOPING someone would bring up that line!

I confess that I have seen all of the Apes movies (with the exception of this current release), and I found none of them particularly compelling. Actually, the MAD Magazine parodies of the franchise were superior - as well as being damned funny.

"Our society is based upon a rigid hierarchy! We have the orangutangs on top, followed by the chimpanzees and gorillas, and downward to humans and used car salesmen!"
"Why, that's amazing, Dr. Zaius! Can you repeat that?"
"Not unless you give me a banana."

Posted by: The Wanderer at August 13, 2011 12:04 PM

CommaDaddy, Protoguy is a fine human being, with class and style. Glad you two met.
I am sad about your situation but wish you the absolute best for a quick and complete recovery, sir.

Posted by: Spender at August 13, 2011 3:18 PM

God damn this website has really gone downhill.
Posted by: Case at August 12, 2011 2:52 PM

Really?
Hmm... coming from a bitter, alienated hosebag like Case Crum, we should all be rather pleased about his opinion. Perhaps it is that now he will jump up his own ass and vanish from the Pajibaverse. As for "aroorda" and the rest of the newish trolls, you've done nothing but cut yourself off from a community that it would benefit you to be a part of, if you can curb your bile and make intelligent, well-thought out contributions. If not, I say we scorch your tiny brains and frog-march you back to the barns you were born in.

Posted by: Spender at August 13, 2011 3:39 PM

My apologies to Case Crum for misidentifying him as the Case who posts the shitty comments.
That said, they are both whiny assholes.

Thank you.

Posted by: Spender at August 13, 2011 4:50 PM

There is perhaps nobody on the planet, be it populated by Apes or otherwise that has the capacity to be as flat an actor as Wahlberg.

Thank you.

Posted by: duckandcover at August 13, 2011 6:50 PM

Becks: Well put.

MM: Great as always and very much in line with my thinking as well. Both on religion and Wahlberg. I did like Franco in 127 Hours though.

Posted by: TylerDFC at August 13, 2011 7:54 PM

In Conquest of the Planet of The Apes, which Rise is based on, dogs and cats died out and apes took their place as domesticated pets and later became servants.

Did they do the same thing in Rise or is there another way they explain away the fact that Gorillas and Orangutans are endangered species and no matter how smart they are could not overwhelm and defeat an army of armed soldiers?

Posted by: John W at August 14, 2011 12:11 AM

How shall we fuck off, oh lord?

Posted by: Leftylad at August 14, 2011 3:21 AM

I am sad about your situation but wish you the absolute best for a quick and complete recovery, sir.

Posted by: Spender at August 13, 2011 3:18 PM
---
Oh, don't be sad. I had one of the easy ones. It got cut out and I took a couple doses of chemo lite and have to get CT scanned every 3-4 months.

This is NOTHING like what's happening to Protoguy. I read his blog, or tried to, and then I quit after a couple entries because it was scaring the bejeezus out of me.

Protoguy may be a swell and fine and upstanding gentlefellow, but he is also one tough motherfucker.

Not like life gave him a lot of choice, but still: I wouldn't insult him and people going through what he's going through by whining about me and/or comparing myself to them.

I DO ask this PSA of you and other Pajentlemen: Check your sack, Jack. (And you ladies feel free -- see what i did there? -- to check your guy; you'll both appreciate it, I'm sure.)

Posted by: , at August 14, 2011 10:52 AM

My apologies for the off-topic and whiny posts yesterday... I was drinking cheap boxed wine and it went to my head.

But I gotta say, "Christian Mingle... find God's match for you" still creeps me out.

Posted by: snapnhiss at August 14, 2011 10:59 AM

, - I didn't want to belittle your situation at all so I didn't say anything, but I was relieved to find out that your illness was a bit easier to treat than others of it's kind. Cancer is scary as hell no matter how it presents. Good luck with everything and seriously, if you need anything, even just to whine, feel free.

Posted by: Protoguy at August 15, 2011 3:35 AM

Article's fine. Commenters who think they're god's gift are douchebags.

Carry on.

Posted by: Maryscott O'Connor at August 15, 2011 2:09 PM

This is the best piece I've read about this movie, in this paragraph you sum it up perfectly: The most recent Ape film chose to bring realism to the franchise, which in my mind was completely missing the point. The creation myth surrounding Planet of the Apes doesn’t have to be intellectually credible, it just needs to be a trippy freak-out. Not understanding why things were the way they were was part of the disorienting brilliance of it.

Posted by: zito at August 31, 2011 7:11 PM