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Team Edward vs. Team Jacob

By Dustin Rowles | Posted Under Think Pieces | Comments (115)



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Ladies and gentlemen, let it be recognized that today’s debate concerns a subject of paramount importance in today’s cultural landscape. It concerns a topic that’s been on a lot of our minds lately. It’s something that seemingly all of us have wrestled with at one point or another over the last several years. For some, it’s simply a decision that cannot be made. For others, that decision has ripped apart friends and family, divided them into camps. Gnarled teeth, ripped hair, and blood-stained walls are not uncommon. It is to popular culture what the Middle East is to politics: The Greatest Debate of Our Modern Times. Nothing else matters. There is no world beyond it.

I speak, of course, of the epic saga between those who support Edward Cullen and those who support Jacob Black.

Today, we will present you with what I hope are two equally compelling arguments between the two camps. We cannot ultimately make the decision for you; we can only hope to inform and persuade. It is up to you to make the final determination.


We begin today’s debate with the argument on behalf of Edward Cullen.

Team Edward: It should come as no surprise to the readers, the judges, and the public, that we do hereby support a decision that would ultimately pair the vampire Edward Cullen and Bella Swan together for all of eternity.

Resolved: Edward Cullen is the more attractive person, exemplified by his messy wave of blond hair, his impeccable bone structure, and his piercing eyes, the color of topaz. He is slender and muscular. In Bella’s own words, he is “impossibly beautiful.”

Resolved: Edward cares more deeply for Bella, as he’s demonstrated time and again in his efforts to maintain a distance from her, knowing that his presence puts Bella in danger. His efforts, however, have been thwarted by Bella, whose clear passion and love for Edward transcend life itself. For Bella, a life without Edward is tantamount to no life at all. Recognizing this, Edward at one point fled the continent to further ensure Bella’s safety and attempted to extinguish his own life for her protection. Edward’s love for Bella is so profound that he would rather give up eternal life than risk her short, mortal existence.

Resolved: Edward is more suitable husband material, as he is better able to protect Bella. He does not need to sleep, so may stay awake at all hours tending to her needs and warding away threats. Further, he does not need to eat, therefore, in lean times, any and all foodstuffs he may collect will inure 100 percent to Bella. He and his family, moreover, are also very well off, and would be able to better afford Bella the wedding she deserves.

Resolved: Vampires are better than werewolves. As a vampire in the Twilight universe, Edward can run with expediency; he has a super-human strength; he has an impeccable sense of smell; and he can read other people’s thoughts. Moreover, Edward suffers none of the downside to traditional vampire mythology. He is unharmed by garlic, holy items or wooden stakes. He is also free to roam about in the daylight; in fact, in sunlight, his skin sparkles, adding to his impossible, Adonis-like beauty. Moreover, vampire movies are clearly better than werewolf movies, as is evidenced by Lost Boys, Nosferatu, Near Dark, An Interview With a Vampire and From Dusk til Dawn, among others.

Resolved: Edward’s forced abstinence policy is more in line with the nation’s religious and moral values.

A Rebuttal argument on behalf of Jacob Black

Team Jacob: We would counter that Team Edward has not met their prima facie burden in defense of Edward Cullen. They’re arguments lack legitimacy; they are specious, fallacious, and malicious.

Refuted: Edward is not the more attractive person. Jacob is clearly a more beautiful person, as exemplified by his 6’7 frame, his powerful musculature, his tidy hair — cut short out of love for Bella — his russet skin and dark eyes. His fur is also a lovely reddish-brown. Even conceding, however, that Jacob is only “sort of beautiful,” compared to “impossibly beautiful,” as Bella has characterized the two, we strongly feel that Jacob is nevertheless the appropriate choice. This is based, in part, on the hypnotic scent and seductive voice, which obscure Edward’s true nature and beauty.

Refuted: If Edward cared more deeply for Bella, he would never leave her. Jacob has resolved to be an everlasting presence, keeping a watchful eye on her. When Edward left, who was there to protect Bella from the vicious vampire in the woods? It was Jacob, who was forced to reveal his true werewolf identity to protect Bella. When Bella jumped off of a cliff into the ocean, who was there to save her from drowning? Jacob. When Bella is caught by the vampire Laurent alone in a clearing, who saved her? Jacob. Indeed, the only people that Edward has saved Bella from are the very people who Edward’s presence made a danger to Bella in the first place, namely his family and other vampires who would seek to harm Bella to spite Edward. Moreover, the very act of lovemaking does not create a predicament for Bella; she need not worry about being transformed or killed. Bella is free to fornicate with Jacob at her leisure. Additionally, breeding would not cause the complications that conceiving a child with Edward might, namely having a vampire newborn rip open her stomach in the labor process.

Resolved: Jacob has a better disposition than Edward. Edward is sullen, argumentative, and withdrawn. Jacon is cheery, happy, self-possessed, and adventurous, making him the more ideal life partner. Moreover, Jacob’s hunter/gatherer instincts are sharp, meaning also that Bella will never go hungry in his care. Additionally, Bella can share a meal with Jacob knowing that, afterwards, Jacob will not be forced to regurgitate the foodstuffs, as would Edward. Moreover, Jacob’s body temperature is 108.9 degrees, meaning he’s more capable of keeping Bella warm on a cold night.

Refuted: Vampires are not better than werewolves. Werewolves can change shape at will; they are also immortal; and they do not have to drink blood to sustain their existence. Moreover, vampires are smug femine type creatures, while werewolves are sensuous and masculine are feral love makers. Additionally, werewolves treat their mother well. Finally, we counter Team Edward’s flimy vampire movie choices with Ginger Snaps, Teen Wolf, Dog Soldiers and An American Werewolf in London.

Refuted: Mass abstinence would would lead to a worldwide crisis in mental health. Liberation breeds liberation. Sexual freedom is at the heart of democracy!


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Comments

I can't believe I read this.

(That's OK. I can't believe I wrote it. -- DR

Posted by: DarthCorleone at March 24, 2010 3:17 PM

In the spirit of fun, my boyfriend asked me this very question. I responded, "Secret Answer C. I would become a lesbian and join Team Alice." He was duly impressed.

Posted by: bonnie at March 24, 2010 3:19 PM

I'm sad to say I've thought about this, and I have an opinion: Team Jacob. Because I enjoy seeing actual character/relationship development. In other words, Jacob actually has a semblance of a personality. I can't believe I read all those books.

Posted by: kelsy at March 24, 2010 3:19 PM

I am *not* gonna be the first to comment on this.

Posted by: thingmaker at March 24, 2010 3:20 PM

Oh, thank jeebus.

Posted by: thingmaker at March 24, 2010 3:21 PM

"Edward Cullen is the more attractive person, exemplified by his messy wave of blond hair..."

OBJECTION...this is a travesty...

Posted by: Amanda at March 24, 2010 3:23 PM

Edward is made of stone. All of him is.

End of discussion.

Posted by: courtney at March 24, 2010 3:23 PM

I haven't read any of the books, but...Ummmm, is "none of the above" a choice here? I mean christ, at this point Bella hasn't had a human boyfriend in her entire life. The woman sexually fetishizes monsters here to the point where she isn't in love with either of them, but rather, is obsessed with what they've become and fixated on the idea of immortality.

The girl doesn't need a ring on her finger, she needs a goddamn straightjacket.

And yes, this is coming from someone who's never seen the movies or read the books.

Posted by: Jeremy Feist at March 24, 2010 3:26 PM

I make no qualms about being Team Jacob. Feral and hot - you said it all, Dustin.

Why you said it, I can only imagine...

Posted by: Patty O'Green at March 24, 2010 3:28 PM

Based solely on the actor's appearance, because you can be damn sure I have never and will never read those books, I suppose I'm Team Jacob. For the pecs. And the shoulders. I can't remember what his ass looks like, but I'm sure it's yet another reason to be on Team Jacob.

Why do I feel guilty now?

Posted by: Kolby at March 24, 2010 3:30 PM

Well, it SEEMS for the sake of discussion that you are asking of an assessment based on the characters as written in the books. Because if it was between Robert Pattinson and Taylor Lautner, my answer would be Robert Pattinson x 1000. Not only am I a sucker for the pale, emaciated, emo thing (I hate myself), Taylor Lautner looks like he's got a little Fetal Alcohol Syndrome or something going on there. Not attractive to me IN THE SLIGHTEST.

However, not having read any of the books, but having gotten a general sense of things from this here website, and based on the facts as you've laid them out above: Team Jacob 100%.

Btw, DR, thanks for wasting your time writing that lovely piece so I could waste my time writing a lengthy response to it.

Posted by: MM at March 24, 2010 3:30 PM

Team Jacob baby. Its all about who looks better with their shirt off and it is not the pale leech!!

*** Kelsy I too have read all the books
* hangs head in shame

Posted by: blacksred at March 24, 2010 3:32 PM

Wow...what's sad is that there are people out there (screaming teenage girls) who have this debate on a regular basis.

Posted by: greenblue at March 24, 2010 3:32 PM

Edward is made of stone. All of him is.

Yeah...but if he never does anything with that stone then isn't it a nasty, nasty lie?

Posted by: Ava at March 24, 2010 3:33 PM

Ha! Bonnie, I was just coming down here to the comment-y thinger to say, "TEAM ALICE FTW!"

Posted by: Anna von Beavershark at March 24, 2010 3:34 PM

Wait, can I be Team Jeremy? Although, to be fair, isn't Jeremy Team Penis? Then I have no shot.

Posted by: Patty O'Green at March 24, 2010 3:34 PM

I've wavering between this being awesome and this being ridiculous. I'm going to go with ridiculously awesome.

Also, team Jacob. He's hotter, he's against abstinence, werewolves make better life partners, and he only turned into a controlling crazy douche in the third book when Meyers realized that if she didn't make him a date-rapist, everyone would like him more than Edward.


Ugh, I can't believe I chimed in. I disgust myself.

Posted by: Marra at March 24, 2010 3:36 PM

I motion for joint custody. They can spit roast her at will.

Posted by: bob at March 24, 2010 3:40 PM

Have never read or saw anything related to Twilight, but I am Team Jacob for one reason: I'm a pasty white Irish girl that loves me some dark skin. So any boy-hybrid-wolf-thing that looks vaguely Puerto Rican, I'm ready to let it touch me in fresh places.

Posted by: scorzi at March 24, 2010 3:42 PM

Does Jacob do it doggy style? Cause that would make all the difference for me.

Also, the sparkles are kinda a turnoff. They remind me of the old joke . . .

A woman has an appointment to see your gynocologist, and so she grabs the nearest washcloth and does a once over her love canal so she'll be nice and clean for the visit. The doctor even comments on how she obviously thought today's visit was special. When she gets home, her little daughter asks what happened to the washcloth, and the mother says she threw it in with the laundry, whereupon the child wails, "But MOM, I was keeping my glitter in that washcloth!"

Posted by: BWeaves at March 24, 2010 3:43 PM

I've never read the books or seen the movies, but based on the actors' appearances, I would have to say Team Jacob. Chiseled pecs and six-pack abs beat greasy, unkempt hair any day.

Posted by: Rlr260 at March 24, 2010 3:44 PM

HER gynocologist. I don't know how I missed that.

Posted by: BWeaves at March 24, 2010 3:44 PM

Putting aside the specific vampire and werewolf in question, because Edward looks like he needs a shower and a bowl of soup, and Jacob is way too hairless as a human male, the more general vampire v. werewolf question does lend itself to serious discussion.

Werewolves: Do they shed like regular dogs? Because I adopt short-haired non-werewolf dogs for a reason, I hate all the shedding. I imagine they'd be excellent protectors, and if a werewolf can share a spagetti dinner with me, I'd prefer that to a wan old vampire just starting at me as I eat the meat sauce.

Vampires: OK, chances are they are better conversationalists, right? Being immortal, they have more time to read and experience culture. Werewolves are probably great to watch a hockey game with, but can we discuss literature? Then again, hockey is pretty sweet on its own, who needs Proust?

Here's what settles it for me: Vampires are UNDEAD. That just creeps me out. Ignoring all the modern-day vampire "updates", like being able to go about sparkling in the daytime and having "feelngs" and such, they are UNDEAD SOULLESS CREATURES OF THE NIGHT, DAMMIT.

So I'll take the hockey-watching, spagetti-eating, warm-blooded shedding creature over the pasty UNDEAD fellow. Team Jacob FTW!

Posted by: lil_a at March 24, 2010 3:46 PM

Hey courtney, Jacob's last name is "Black," insinuating certain things* that would refute your infatuation with Edward's "stone"-ness.

Of course I'm referring to his prowess at basketball. I'm kidding! That's borderline racist. What it actually refers to is his big weiner.

Posted by: Kballs at March 24, 2010 3:52 PM

Wow.

Posted by: Mick J at March 24, 2010 3:53 PM

TEAM SUICIDE.

Posted by: figgy at March 24, 2010 3:53 PM

Jeremy, you need to sign up to be Bella's Sassy Gay Friend, stat.

Dustin, thanks. This is hilarious even for those who haven't read the books or seen the films, as evidenced by my split side.

Posted by: Ranylt at March 24, 2010 3:54 PM

My friends and I debated this on our podcast, Read It and Weep. It really came down to who you'd rather make out with. A puppy dog or a monster? An animal or an ice sculpture?

The three of us were split on the vote. How much shedding in the bed is too much shedding? Would your tongue get stuck on the sculpture? Would you even care?

Posted by: Chris at March 24, 2010 3:55 PM

Oh and: Team Edward, if I have to make a choice under duress. He's no fucking catch, but that butt-ugly Jacob freak looks positively paleolithic. Dragging knuckles turn me off.

Posted by: Ranylt at March 24, 2010 3:58 PM

Instead of calling this a spirited debate, shouldn't it be a sparkled debate?

Posted by: Melody at March 24, 2010 4:00 PM

I.....am SHOCKED at you, Dustin, for writing this.

I mean, we ALL know you are on Team RyRey!

As for me, can I choose Team Louis or Team Armand? Much sexier vampires who DO NOT sparkle.

Actually, if given the choice, I'm afraid I would choose Team Just Fuckin Shoot Me Already.

Posted by: dammitjanet at March 24, 2010 4:00 PM

I just watched the second movie last night, and I really think I liked it better than the first one. The wolves were pretty well done, and Jacob is more interesting than Edward with all his pastiness and whining. Still completely ridiculous, but I was entertained.

Although I appreciate Jacob's body in the movie, I think I'd have to answer this very important question in the abstract, since I'm not really attracted to either actor. And I'd have to go with a werewolf. Strong and warm is so much sexier than cold and rock-like.

Posted by: Sophia at March 24, 2010 4:00 PM

I'm voting for Team Anita Blake.

That woman could kill both of them without breaking a sweat. Not to mention she has sex...like all the time...and she's totally a freak.

Posted by: DeistBrawler at March 24, 2010 4:03 PM

You have no idea how much it pains me that you put actual thought into this, Dustin.

Team Homicidal Midget Wielding Dual Machetes on a Week Long Crack Binge.

Posted by: admin at March 24, 2010 4:05 PM

I have NO interest in either Smooshed Face or Giraffe Neck, thank you very much.

That is all.

Posted by: Katers at March 24, 2010 4:06 PM

*Headdesk*

revision

*HeadAshleyGreeneDesk*

Posted by: D-Day at March 24, 2010 4:08 PM

april fool's day isn't for a week-what gives?

Posted by: gem at March 24, 2010 4:11 PM

On title alone, I spat liquid on my monitor.

Posted by: anikitty at March 24, 2010 4:11 PM

So, Dustin, are you going to tally up the results and announce the official democratic position of the Pajibites?

(That's all the Pajibites, not *just* the Pajibettes.)

Posted by: MM at March 24, 2010 4:13 PM

OK, I have to admit to being among the small and largely in the closet group of people who have read all the books. The first one came STRONGLY recommended to me in the early (ish) days of the fad, and after two days or so I had finished all of them. To those of you who haven't read them: DON'T START. You'll think, "Oh, I'm curious. I can handle it." Well, you can't. Reading those books is like fucking a bull moose -- you think it'll be an adventure, but really it's a chaotic, terrifying journey that lasts longer than you'd bargained for and leaves you shaking, bloody, ashamed, and covered in strange fluids.

That said, Team Edward. Jacob is boring, just as controlling as Edward, and way too hirsute.

Posted by: esme at March 24, 2010 4:16 PM

I think I cried a little from all the laughing.

And as far as the actors are concernd, I'm a total Sparkles whore! The bone structure and the messy hair are pretty great.
But the book... how dumb do you have to be, to be 100+ years old and think Bella is the love of your ETERNAL life?? At least the puppy is a younger 'man' and will die eventually...

Posted by: Mariazinha at March 24, 2010 4:17 PM

Team Jacob. And, now I feel unclean.

Posted by: sheshakes at March 24, 2010 4:21 PM

Blond hair, where you looking? It's brown to me. Oh, someone got there already.

I was Team Jacob in the books, (yes, I can say that now without fear everyone will jump on me for reading them. Y'all are obviously obsessed with Twilight here) Taylor whatsisface ruined it for me.

Actually in the books I thought Jacob was too good for Bella, what with her whole 'I can't love you like that but I will string you along endlessly cos I need you right now, then drop you as soon as I am over my Edward depression, K?' crap.

Posted by: Carrie at March 24, 2010 4:25 PM

Dude - Team Alice all the way.

The subtext is all there in the books. I swear, if Bella didn't orgasm everytime Wardo dazzled her, I'd have her pegged for a total rugmuncher.

Posted by: Aislinn at March 24, 2010 4:25 PM

Well, this has just reinforced my refusal to read the books. Thanks.

Posted by: Jeni at March 24, 2010 4:32 PM

It hurts my spirit to say I have thought about this before. Jacob would be my lover of choice.

His body is beautiful. His face is not. Therefore, I would opt to put a bag over his head for the inevitable lovemaking/bestiality. Noting his lupine heritage, perhaps he would growl during coitus. That would be most satisfactory.

Edward simply looks to ill to do anything, much less anyone. His disco stick (it does sparkle, after all) would not sate me. Perhaps we could trade womanly secrets and paint our toenails together. I think he would like that more.

Posted by: Brie at March 24, 2010 4:34 PM

Also, Team Alice.

She knows stuff, if you know what I mean.

Posted by: Ava at March 24, 2010 4:40 PM

Based on the characters in the books {and Dustin's arguments ftm},
I'm Team Jacob for sure.
And... I absolutely love doggies / wolves. Canines too. ;-D

Posted by: Ms MoMo at March 24, 2010 4:43 PM

Noting his lupine heritage, perhaps he would growl during coitus. That would be most satisfactory.

Agreed, Brie, agreed.

Posted by: Patty O'Green at March 24, 2010 4:44 PM

Can we take Edward's hummunosity and just add Jacob's non-cold as a statue peen?

hot peen. hot peen, comin' right up.

Posted by: stopthemadness at March 24, 2010 4:48 PM

Dustin, you are awesome and hilarious and many other adjectives that my brain is too tired to come up with.

Sir, I hyperbole you.

Also, Team Jacob because 1) can fuck without 2) wanting to kill me or 3) making me become dead in order to get the lovin'.

It's all about sex. ALL ABOUT IT. And I want the tall hot (literally) boy instead of cold skinny thing.

Posted by: MyySharona at March 24, 2010 4:54 PM

This is so not what I signed on for.

Posted by: TK at March 24, 2010 4:57 PM

Does this mean you've read all the books, or did you get this from a case study of 14-year-old mall rats over the course of a weekend?

Posted by: Dorothy Snarker at March 24, 2010 4:59 PM

As it stands: Team Dustin.

Posted by: E-Money at March 24, 2010 5:06 PM

Speaking as a neutral party, I would like to observe that Jacob forces an unwelcome kiss on Bella; this is not exactly reassuring when looking forward to a relationship. Edward's stalkerish behavior, including removing a part from Bella's truck to keep her trapped at home is also not a good sign for a long-term relationship.

That said, the fact that we can look into the future and know that Jacob is not in fact in love with Bella -- no matter how much he thinks he is at first -- but is instead already Imprinted on the ovum that will become the uber-special Vampire Child Renesmee (or however you spell "Nessie"'s real name), well, unfortunately, Team Edward wins by author fiat.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go curl up in a corner and try once again to kill the brain cells that have picked up this knowledge...

Posted by: sistercoyote at March 24, 2010 5:07 PM

Oh, and because I forgot:

Bella needs to hook Jacob and Edward up with each other and then go off with the Peace Corps or Americorps for a while to figure out who she really is and what she really wants.

Posted by: sistercoyote at March 24, 2010 5:09 PM

Patty: Yes, Team Feist (a.k.a. Team Hot Peen) is still a viable option. Also, Hot Peen sounds disturbingly delicious. Like something you might order at a bistro.

Ranylt: Ugh, no way. I think it would last a week before I got sick of her shit.

Posted by: Jeremy Feist at March 24, 2010 5:10 PM

Team Oz.

Buffy is the end all be all for vampires and werewolves for me.

Posted by: Quorren at March 24, 2010 5:14 PM

Sorry, I'll try again...

Team Edward!

http://www.fiftiesweb.com/honeymooner-pic071.jpg

Posted by: Tranjo at March 24, 2010 5:21 PM

"I can't believe I read this.

(That's OK. I can't believe I wrote it. -- DR"

That right there, made it all worth it.

Team Dustin ftw!

Posted by: Stella at March 24, 2010 5:30 PM

"Wait, can I be Team Jeremy? Although, to be fair, isn't Jeremy Team Penis? Then I have no shot."

You can join us on Team Jeremy's Penis.

Personally, the only way the whole Team Edward/Team Jacob thing can be resolved is to get all the fans in one area, give them automatic weapons, and tell them the last person standing has the hottest imaginary boyfriend. Like Battle Royale, only profoundly retarded.

Posted by: Craig at March 24, 2010 5:30 PM

Well here is the thing, with a vegetarian husband, your kids are going to be weak, and die in the first year.
With a native american husband, they will be suspect to his alcoholism, and drunken abuse.
Pretty much the girl needs to find herself a nice, soft, cuddly dragon to sleep with and call it good.

Posted by: Robb at March 24, 2010 5:38 PM

Oooh! I'm considering switching to Team Oz. It would be a no-brainer if Seth Green hadn't hurt me so bad with that Old Dogs SHIT.

Posted by: MM at March 24, 2010 5:41 PM

I have to ditto everything esme said.

You'll think, "Oh, I'm curious. I can handle it." Well, you can't. Reading those books is like fucking a bull moose -- you think it'll be an adventure, but really it's a chaotic, terrifying journey that lasts longer than you'd bargained for and leaves you shaking, bloody, ashamed, and covered in strange fluids.

YES. THIS.

Also Team Edward. Jacob has the smallest eyes I think I've ever seen.

Posted by: Rachel at March 24, 2010 5:41 PM

Before I read this, I would have said Edward. However, I am convinced by Dustin's argument, and I'm switching sides: Team Jacob it is.
Besides, I love dogs. And dude is 6'7; he's got to be hung.

Posted by: Lemon Poundcake at March 24, 2010 5:42 PM

Who's got the bigger dong?

Posted by: ghunda at March 24, 2010 6:21 PM

I'm around teenage girls constantly and I've never heard word one of this debate. If I asked Little Snuggie "Team Edward or Team Jacob?" she'd roll her eyes and said "TEAM, Momma? Really? TEAM?" Then she'd probably make a sighing/grunting noise and walk away. Or she'd gently remind me these are fictional characters. Or take my temperature because I never say things like that.

I can't believe you wrote all that, Dustin! I thought Twilight was roundly hated in these parts. Unless that was completely sarcastic. I don't know. I have low blood sugar right now, I need to shut up.

Posted by: Snuggiepants the Deathbringer at March 24, 2010 6:33 PM

Also, the fact that you filed this under "Think Pieces"?

Dude. Seriously. What the hell.

Posted by: TK at March 24, 2010 6:45 PM

As the only Pajiban who routinely trumpets her love for RPattz (because I'm sick in the head and love brit accents and pasty, lanky self-depricating boys), I have to chim in with a round of Team Edward. Part of the love is due to the maniacal stalking and crazy. Because I like the crazy. It makes me feel at least partially sane.

Posted by: popejenn at March 24, 2010 6:47 PM

Fuck.
And by "chim in", I clearly mean "chime in". Goddamn clumsy fingers.

I also feel the need to say that Jacob (Taylor whatever) has the facial features of an FAS child but with DISTURBINGLY white teeth.

Posted by: popejenn at March 24, 2010 6:49 PM

um--Team Vibrator?

Posted by: cleverpeach at March 24, 2010 7:12 PM

TEAM CENTIPEDE!

Posted by: Human Centipede at March 24, 2010 7:18 PM

You know, say what you will about the woman's writing style, but it's pretty impressive that she's got so many people trying to decide between bestiality and necrophilia as an alternate lifestyle. I'd have to vote werewolf, how good a lover could a corpse be?

Posted by: cfar1 at March 24, 2010 7:20 PM

This whole discussion is killing me - I'm just sitting here, crying with laughter.
And Team Jacob. Because who's looking at the face?

Posted by: squeeziee at March 24, 2010 7:21 PM

Edward's hair is bronze, not blonde. BRONZE, damn you! And now I know you haven't read the books, cause that is literally the only adjective Ms. Meyer can come up with to describe his hair for over 2,500 pages over overwrought proze.

And for the record, team Edward, cause 'sparklepeen' is my new favorite expletive.

Posted by: hersheygirl at March 24, 2010 7:23 PM

Jacob. Us pale kids need to stick together.

Posted by: Optimus Rhyme at March 24, 2010 7:40 PM

Also: Team Edward. Because his sparklepeen goes well with my vajazzling.

Posted by: esme at March 24, 2010 7:42 PM

I choose.....ME!

Posted by: AlwaysConfused at March 24, 2010 8:22 PM

TEAM CENTIPEDE!

Posted by: Human Centipede at March 24, 2010 7:18 PM

Holy shit, this cracked me the fuck up. My sides and face hurt.


But okay, I'll play along. For the children, you see. Specifically, Lil 'Jiba. His poor daddy had to wrap his brain around this and as a result is convalescing with a cool washcloth on his head. So, Team Edward. What can I say, he has a pretty face and I like skinny 'cause you can toss it around. If you know what I'm sayin' and I think YOU DO.

But really for real, Team TK. He has zombies. You really can't beat that.

Posted by: stardust at March 24, 2010 8:40 PM

Team Man in Black! Smoke beats Vampire or Werewolf.

Posted by: Petrie at March 24, 2010 8:55 PM

OR:

Jacob is the tanned, "Native American" werewolf one. Edward is the pale, wiry one.

Posted by: MM at March 24, 2010 9:10 PM

And dude is 6'7; he's got to be hung.

No. No, he doesn't.

Can I take "Team Werewolf/Vampire Sandwich"?

Posted by: Anna von Murderpuppet at March 24, 2010 9:58 PM

Since when is Pazuzu a member of Menudo?

Posted by: Jo 'Mama' Besser at March 24, 2010 10:00 PM

It's all fun and games until the Human Centipede shows up. Blech!

When I read the books (God forgive me) I was all for Jacob while he was just human. He was a somewhat developed character and an actual friend to boring Bella. Then he went all wolfish and aggressive and I went more toward Team Alice. If we're going by actors I'd choose RPattz but I prefer him as Cedric. And while I'm veering into Harry Potter territory (which I much prefer to Twilight territory) if I'm going for a werewolf I'd want me some Lupin.

Posted by: lainiefig at March 24, 2010 10:35 PM

In rebuttal to your arguments for Team Edward, I would like to submit the following video into evidence:

And Team Alice FTW.

Posted by: koj at March 24, 2010 10:41 PM

Didn't work. Here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZwM3GvaTRM

(Buffy vs. Edward)

Posted by: koj at March 24, 2010 10:42 PM

I just have one question.

What the hell is "flimy"?

Posted by: general rhubarb at March 24, 2010 10:54 PM

Yeah, being a pasty white myself I don't really want to add more of that quality to the mix (I don't require reflectives at night because I am reflective). So Jacob it is. I'd ask him to grow his hair out though pronto, Tonto.

Posted by: Ducky at March 24, 2010 11:05 PM

If you put a gun against my head I'd say Team Edward. I was this close to saying Jacob, but then I remembered that that little hirsute motherfucker falls madly in love with a NEWBORN and I won't hold with that shit.

I have enough faith in myself as a woman to know that I'd make Edward interesting. Plus you get to live forever and whatnot.

And yeah, Taylor Lautner is still one ugly fucker.

Posted by: figgy at March 24, 2010 11:18 PM

Team Angel!

But seriously, given those choices, I'd say Team Edward. Yes, Jacob might have been the slightly healthier relationship but with Edward she can become a vampire. I'm sure after a few years she might have finally grown up a little and moved on to someone else - that's one good thing about immortality. Eternity might actually be a long enough time for her to realize that both of them are horrible choices. So, I would go with Team Edward, and then ditch him and the monster child after he turns you.

Posted by: Jen K. at March 24, 2010 11:47 PM

Fuck all this!

Team Count! One...one sparkly fucktard! Ahh! Ahh! Ahh!

That's a real vampire, bitch.

Posted by: admin at March 24, 2010 11:56 PM

While I have no idea why or how this article came to be, I am loving these responses. This has got to be the only corner of the internet where a commenter can type "Team Edward" or "Team Jacob" without disparaged or disparaging. What rational, calm human beings you all are. Love it.

On a less thoughtful note: Team Jacob. Because of sex.

Posted by: sillytwoshoes at March 25, 2010 1:04 AM

I propose a gentleman's duel to resolve things once and for all:

Jacob, armed with a UV flashlight.
Edward, armed with a gun with a silver bullet.

Ten paces, and may the best pretty monster win.

Of course, I don't know what the hell harms the characters in this idiotic series of novels, so this may not even work.

Can't we just go back to Coke VS Pepsi, people?

Posted by: Big Softie at March 25, 2010 1:31 AM

How about Team KILL THEM ALL WITH FUCKING FIRE!!
Jesus.

Poor Dustin. Did you lose a bet?

Posted by: Lindsey with an 'e' at March 25, 2010 3:00 AM

Team Lestat! But, as we're doing Twilight, Team Jacob. For me, not for Bella. She and that pasty little mouth breather are perfect for one another.

Posted by: Bumwee McGee at March 25, 2010 3:25 AM

I have to say team Edward, because choosing Jacob has one very serious flaw.

(I can't believe I am about to reveal how much I know about these books. I warn you, this is pathetic.)

The werewolves (or shape shifters who only shift into wolves but are in no way influenced by the moon) in the books "fall in love" on first site with the best genetic match that will carry on the werewolf gene. If you choose team Jacob you will always be waiting for the other shoe to drop. Plus he can't turn you (shape shifter not werewolf) which means that you are guaranteed to grow old and die while he remains young. At least Edward has the ability to turn you so you can stay immortal together forever.

Personally I say "bleh" and shudder, but that has to do with the fact that living forever seems like one of the worst curses on the planet. It ranks up there with "May you live in interesting times" and "May you get what you want". The very thought of immortality makes me shudder, and the form it takes in largely irrelevant. However, if forced to choose between two types of immortals, I would choose the one that loves me and won't stop loving me the moment a genetically perfect mate pops into the picture.

Posted by: Morgan LaFai at March 25, 2010 3:57 AM

Team Marius!!! I can't help it, I have a degree in European History, and, well, the man records history for ETERNITY. My dream job. And, my dream lover.

Posted by: Raye Raye at March 25, 2010 5:30 AM

Team Jacob? Team Edward? It's an impossible decision. I'll just have to hope that when I flip the coin it explodes and kills me.

Posted by: Twihard at March 25, 2010 5:45 AM

Ugh, both dudes are fugly. Especially that Taylor kid, he looks like trailer trash spawn.
Team Clive Owen all the way!

Posted by: Wendy at March 25, 2010 6:38 AM

but I prefer him as Cedric. And while I'm veering into Harry Potter territory (which I much prefer to Twilight territory) if I'm going for a werewolf I'd want me some Lupin. (lainefig)

**MESS**

Team Lestat! (Bumwee McGee)

Between the laughter-tears and the panty parade, I'm gonna need a towel!

You bitches crack me up - thanks for giving me a laugh on a shitty day!

Posted by: Patty O'Green at March 25, 2010 9:27 AM

Team Miriam for the win, obviously. Bisexual vampire lovers always come out on top, especially when they are as gorgeous and ageless as Catherine Deneuve. For goodness sake, she banged David Bowie and Susan Sarandon in one film that also had hints of pedophilia and a classical music through-line. And she didn't fucking sparkle in the sunlight.

Posted by: Robert at March 25, 2010 9:46 AM

BTW, if Pajiba sold "Team Hot Peen" shirts, they could afford to cancel some of the ads. I'm just saying...

Posted by: Patty O'Green at March 25, 2010 9:59 AM

After watching Edward vs Buffy - I'm on Team Buffy.

Posted by: Stella at March 25, 2010 10:48 AM

TEAM BILL WEASLEY!

Posted by: AES at March 25, 2010 10:52 AM

Team Van Helsing...DUH!

Posted by: DoctorControversy at March 25, 2010 12:03 PM

Oh and Harry Potter should have left Edward Cullen in the fucking maze.

Posted by: DoctorControversy at March 25, 2010 12:08 PM

I am so dissapointed to find this here. I expected some pithy quips to make me giggle at the idiocy of our society, and their obsession with this movie. I am sad, now. I hope you enjoyed your ruse.

Posted by: Blank at March 25, 2010 1:56 PM

After much deliberation, I have determined that the proper choice for Bella’s lover would be…

Team Mike Newton: He's human, moderately attractive, doesn’t want to eat her, and is unlikely to hump her leg… unless, you know, she’s into that. His family also owns a sporting goods store, so cheap deals on camping equipment!

Then when they eventually breakup (because it’s her fist boyfriend and she’s 17 right?) Bella can just say “it’s not you; it’s me”. If she went the vampire route, they would have to divide up the planet so that she wouldn’t have to run into her ex over and over again for eternity… awkward.

As opposed to Jacob, her boyfriend wouldn’t leave fur on the furniture every-time he came over and when he requests that you try out doggie-style you don’t have to wonder if he means it literally.

Vampirism is forever… and so are those pesky bestiality rumors.

Posted by: Mary at March 25, 2010 2:16 PM

Let's see, the pasty white sparkly vamp who is the epitome of the aloof, slightly controlling and menacing Bad Boy every girl should run from or the pussy whipped (albeit very lean and muscled) wewolf who pines for a waif of a girl who can't make up her damn mind about what she wants because life is, like, so hard and how can a girl really make life decisions when, like, the Cullen is *sparkly* and shit?

Meh.

I pass on both and resort to dreaming and drooling over Lloyd Dobler and his boombox in the rain schtick.

What? Yeah, I'm old. What of it?

Damn whipper snappers!

Posted by: smijca at March 25, 2010 11:32 PM

gem, you read my mind!

[sigh] Pajiba used to be my refuge from the tweens. But I s'pose I vote Team Jasper - he's at least lived both vampiric lifestyles, and dating a psychic would mean he's gotta use his imagination!

Posted by: Nxx at March 26, 2010 12:08 AM

late to the party, as usual.. but i have an idea of those of you who are worried about the shedding. are there any type of were-doodle hybrids (ala the goldendoodle that is a cross between a golden retriever and a poodle, so that it doesn't shed and is completely hypoallergenic)?

Posted by: legib at March 26, 2010 1:39 PM

i love jacob he will win in any fight he is the best!!!!!! i would date him in a heart beat!!!! he is so hot but he should keep his hair short i like it better dang he is hot but on the other hand Edward is okay too but i love Jacob!!!!!!! GO WAREWOLFS!!!!!!

Posted by: sara bowers at April 28, 2010 10:46 AM

i am 100 percent team edward!!!!! its obvious that edward loves bella more than jacob does. i mean, jacob falls in love with bella and edwards child in breaking dawn for petes sake! the only reason edward left bella in the first place is because he wanted her to have a chance at a normal life. he loves her so much that he is willing to put himself in pain just to make her safe. (although she is much more safe with edward around.) but it tore bella up inside when he left so thats means that he is the one she cant live without. edward and bella are ment to be. there is no denying that. so is there really any question at all as to who is better for bella?

Posted by: rachel at June 10, 2010 9:54 PM

Indeed there is a constant debate over Edward and Jacob, and even already knowing my usual answer, I feel my answer would be Jacob. Why? Because Edward lacks that sense of fun that Jacob has. Once, IN THE ENTIRE SERIES, have you ever seen Edward make a real live funny joke? EXACTLY! And who doesn't love a bad boy with a heart? Another thing, with Edward you could never have pets . . . he might eat them, but with Jacob, HE IS YOUR PET!!!! So through hotness levels and heart I have decided that I am . . . . .(drumroll). . . . .TEAM JACOB!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Emily at November 4, 2010 11:26 PM