Is American Horror Story: Coven Cursed, or Just a Poorly Written Hot Mess?

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Is 'American Horror Story: Coven' Cursed, or Just a Poorly Written Hot Mess?

By Cindy Davis | Think Pieces | January 27, 2014 | Comments ()

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Since the first hints of its inception, I’ve been obsessed with American Horror Story and amazed by creators and writers Ryan Murphy and Brad Falchuk. While perhaps they caught the True Blood/Dexter wave, the pair brought us a distinctly new and different slant on the ever-so-slightly campy horror hour, offering brilliant actors, gorgeous camera work and a clever seasonal reset. AHS had a well-received first season, then followed up with the ultra dark Asylum that some found a little too terrifying, what with the flying body parts and Nazi medical experiments. In response to feedback he’d gotten, Murphy promised the third installment would lighten things up and be a bit more fun; “It’s much more buoyant and comedic and crafty than last season, which was much darker by design because it was about heavy social stuff…” Coven’s premise declared “the smart ones” (witches) had evacuated Salem and gravitated to New Orleans, but unfortunately, the seasonal sorceresses we’ve met don’t seem especially clever—in fact—they come off rather foolhardy.

After “Bitchcraft” introduced the glorious group of actors and their characters, and “Boy Parts” began what we wouldn’t have guessed was going to be a recurring theme: That Which Dies Shall Never Stay Dead (though oddly, bodily injuries or illness can’t easily be repaired). And from there, each week things became ever more questionable; albeit mostly entertaining. Is this, as someone in the Facebook AHS group suggested, a third season curse—or is Coven just an incomprehensible hot mess? Let’s have a look at some of the issues. There’ll be current season spoilers, obviously…

Silly, Stupid, Whiny Witches.



From the outset, we wanted to root for Sarah Paulson’s Cordelia. She’s daughter of the reigning Supreme, trying to make a name for herself teaching young witches how to harness and use their powers to defend themselves. Maybe she’d even surprise mommy dearest by being her unexpected successor? But, it didn’t take long to see how completely broken and inept Cordelia is; she’s practically useless as a leader, unwittingly married a witch hunter, cries at the drop of a hat, and has absolutely no clue how to handle Fiona—let alone any real threats to the coven. From the outset, the school’s few students, Nan (Jamie Brewer), Queenie (Gabourey Sidibe), and Madison (Emma Roberts) learn more through incidental experience than they’ll ever be taught by Cordelia, and even as the season wears on, not a one of them can figure out any truly useful significance for their powers (or their minds). Eleven episodes in, Cordelia has thrown her umpteenth woe-is-me crying fit and stabbed out her own (well, stolen) eyes, and Nan, Queenie and Madison have each died at least once—which brings me to my next point.

If Dead Isn’t Really Dead, What’s the Meaning of Death?


It was at first super cool to find out Misty Day (Lily Rabe) had self-resurrected after being burned at the stake—that’s a handy dandy power to have. So, of course she could bring back others from the dead, including Myrtle, Madison, Joan, the pieced together NuKyle, a couple of crocs and a bird. Queenie dies after a post-coital minotaur attack; Fiona breathes her new life. Spaulding (Denis O’Hare)—who might possibly already have been undead or granted everlasting life—and the Axeman (Danny Huston) both died at the Coven house and returned in spirit form. Delphine (Kathy Bates) lost her head and mysteriously returned alongside Queenie…whole. Nan—after being drowned by Fiona and Marie—is traded as an innocent sacrifice to Papa Legba (Lance Reddick); we could hardly be surprised if we see her again. But if everyone who dies is revived within an episode or two, where is the emotional impact? Why should we care about all these meaningless killings?

Inexplicable Character Changes.



Of all the inconsistencies, the most jarring has been the changes in Delphine and Marie—both introduced as intrinsically strong, harsh, women with evil tendencies and very little sympathy for anyone not themselves. Raised from years in her dark grave, Delphine is understandably confused by societal changes, and a certain amount of her fear of the unknown is to be expected. But this woman who tortures and kills is almost immediately transformed to a timid, quaking, subservient being, afraid of everything—until she isn’t. Back and forth she goes throughout the season, from defiant, bloodthirsty killer who serves up a mean shit soup to the whimpering, cowering servant who somehow thinks Queenie’s her best friend.

Even worse is when we’re expected to swallow a nonsensical and instantaneous friendship between Marie and Fiona. After the previous nine episodes established the ever-so-bad blood between voodoo priestess and supreme witch—Jessica Lange and Angela Bassett can barely contain their hissy-spit whenever they speak—the two decide to band together against a common (if not entirely ridiculous, easily defeated) enemy. Okay, so that’s understandable, but what isn’t is the complete behavioral turnaround. What was only moments earlier a relationship of seething hatred and passing a severed head back and forth, is suddenly mimosas and chit chat. Never mind the fact that one of the two hired the enemy to kill the other; Fiona and Marie are at once the long lost sisters each never had.

Mommy Issues Just to Shock.


You forced yourself to forget about this, didn’t you? See, it’s not enough that Delphine is a horrible mother who imprisons and feeds crap to her daughters, tortures their lovers and others, and murders for fun. It’s not enough that Fiona is a narcissistic, murderous witch who alternately mocks and feigns concern for Cordelia. It’s not enough Zoe’s mother sent her to the school from hell, that Madison’s capitalized on her daughter’s fame, or Queenie grew up in foster care. We needed incest, and Murphy brought back Mare Winningham just so we could witness it. But lest we be off the hook a little too early in the season…


Mama Joan (Patti LuPone) came along to dazzle us with a forced bleach enema. And after returning from death, she amped up the fun times by smothering her Luke (Alexander Dreymon) with a pillow.

Mommy issues; we get it. Thanks moms Obama Murphy!

Give the Special Guest Star a Reason to Shine.


I think we can all agree Stevie Nicks is a national treasure. We adore her twirly, probably-not-a-real-witch self, and her beautiful songs. If only Stevie had come on as a character, with any reason at all behind her appearance; heck, she could have been in a Misty vision or dream and it would have been brilliant. The possibilities were endless—Fiona’s rival, a cousin, a grandmother in flashback, the first Supreme, Goldie, the Magic Dust Woman, a council member, Nan’s mother…she could have been anyone at all. Instead, Stevie was paraded out as Stevie, with no real meaning other than to point at the screen and yell, “Look, it’s Stevie!”

Hey, Has Anyone Seen the Plotline?


When first he outlined the Coven story ideas, Ryan Murphy spoke of a New Orleans school where witches would be taught to protect themselves; of the Supreme’s return to help keep them safe, and of “Salem witches plotted against voodoo witches.” It’s true, we’ve seen a lot of things going on at Miss Robichaux’s Academy, but have actual lessons been among them? Just how and when have the girls learned all their incantations? There was talk of feminism, oppression against minorities and fighting against it, families—especially mothers and daughters. Taissa Farmiga would be involved in a prominent romance, reminiscent of the first season relationship between Violet and Tate. And while some of those elements may have been hinted, the actual storyline seems to be missing. Where have we been led this season, and what is the point? Fiona’s return certainly had nothing to do with protecting the coven, or anyone but herself. There has been no real pitting of witch against voodoo, and the two adversarial leaders banding together seemed more about Fiona and Marie hanging out together than being forced to band together against an enemy…speaking of, what enemy? A group of old men sitting around in a conference room? Heck, neither of those powerful ladies was even needed to whack off the “hunter” heads; the Axeman could have handled it all by himself. The only steady theme this season seems to revolve around which witch will be head bitch, and honestly, does anyone even care anymore? Are we to infer feminism from a group of women all trying to kill each other? It’s true, our fair witches finally came together to re-kill the Axeman, but as soon as they’d finished, the contest to reign Supreme was back on. Has anyone been taken in by the “romance” between Zoe and Kyle? I think we all breathed a sigh of relief when the dim duo fled to Florida, then collectively groaned at their immediate return. (Can’t anyone just stay gone?) There are no real consequences, there is no story cohesion; Fiona’s cancer symptoms vary greatly between episodes; the passage of time is unclear. The Council of Witchcraft appeared and sentenced Myrtle to be burned after being set up by Fiona as Cordelia’s attacker. After being revived, Myrtle then murders her fellow Council members (Cecily and Quentin [ (Robin Bartlett, Leslie Jordan]), and ever after, the Council is mentioned no more. I guess that explains why all the later witches attacking witches go unpunished. And don’t even get me started on that laughable “Burn Witch, Burn!” zombie attack. While last season’s Asylum included some shady alien goings-on, those close encounters were the Brando to the Rob Scheidery Marie-controlled zombies that were nonsensically paraded in and around the school, harming nary a witch. I could go on and on…and on, but the last thing we need is more meandering. Let’s face it, we’re haven’t been watching for the story for quite a while now, have we?


We’re Watching for the Actors.







Jessica Lange, Angela Bassett, Kathy Bates, Gabourey Sidibe, Frances Conroy, Denis O’Hare, Sarah Paulson, Lily Rabe, Lance Reddick, Danny Huston—and dare I say boy beater, Emma Roberts—are just killing it. We couldn’t ask for a better cast of actors to get us to the end. Even if “The Seven Wonders” dissolves into nothing but a bucket of bloody body parts, the fantastic actors we’ve been privileged to watch have made Coven worth it; heck, Bassett’s glorious sneers alone practically justify the season. Add in O’Hare’s delightful doll fetish, and the endless snark spewing from all these beautiful mouths—I mean, we’re damned lucky to have this series, aren’t we?

Despite It All, We Love This Show.


There are few minds like Ryan Murphy’s, and I for one am still happy to see his horror fantasies play out, even with the preachy, campy asides. Give me American Horror Story with its buckets of guts, and ghosts, its disease and spanking and nipple lamps, its basement critters, its alien murder and pregnancy manipulations, and Stevie Nicks obsessed witches. Give me gorgeous lighting and crazy camera angles, brilliant actors carrying out Murphy’s wildest dreams, and yeah, throw in all his freaky shit. Cursed or hot mess—I’m all in. And if you’re reading this, I’ll bet you’ll be watching American Horror Story Season 4, too.

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  • Jezzer

    Ryan Murphy is just a shitty showrunner. He needs more people to tell him "no."

  • Mentalcase

    I'm in total agreement with much of this article and the comments in that when I begin an episode my mind naturally tries to rehash the events of the last episode but then I quickly realize it doesn't fucking matter! Dead characters will be resurrected, subplots...hell, MAIN plots will be dropped and forgotten, ancient enemies will sip mimosas together, etc.

    I can honestly say this is the only show I watch that I actually
    dislike. I'm probably like a lot of viewers who are riding out this
    season simply because I'm in bed with it. This will be my last season with AHS. I swear it! Probably. I might pull a Delphine and become a completely different person next week.

  • Greg!

    I'm with you on all accounts save Emma Roberts. She somehow plays a one-note character off key.

  • e jerry powell

    Like I say, Auntie Julia.

  • I disagree on the missing Voodoo versus Witchcraft discussion. Queenie has clearly been a natural voodoo talent, not a witch, from the start. She's been on the outs with her fellow students and even her teachers in the Coven. The witches used her and the voodoo queen used her. However, after working with the voodoo queen, she came back stronger than any witch besides Nan in the coven.

    The two outsiders, separated by physical appearance, became the two strongest witches in the school. They were tested by the crucible of voodoo and only one survived. Queenie is the real threat to become the Supreme, bridging the gap between the Voodoo and Witchcraft communities. She is the only witch to resurrect herself and, as far as we know, the only one to actually complete that 7 wonders test of leaving the mortal coil and returning. Misty resurrected, but we have no evidence she was chilling with Papa Legba and proving her worth as a follower.

    Nan coming back to be her only challenger would be the most fitting end to the series, but I think Nan as Supreme might be just too obvious. Ryan Murphy would love us to forget that the show started with Zoe's narration. You don't establish the narrator that early and then abandon them as the star of their own story. It will be Queenie versus Zoe, the prize students of Madame Laveau and BAMF of the Year winner Myrtle, to determine the next Supreme.

  • e jerry powell


  • phofascinating

    I still don't understand the point of Cordelia's vision in the last episode. She saw that Fiona was going to murder everyone, but then two scenes later we find out that Fiona was murdered by the Axe Man. So, the vision had no purpose except for being visually crazypants?? What good is the power of sight if your visions don't actually show what's going to happen?

  • I was discussing this elsewhere; is Cordelia's vision what would have happened, or is it what *will* happen because of what Cordelia did (telling the Axeman Fiona would leave, causing Fiona and Axeman to fake Fiona's death)?

    I'm not convinced Fiona is dead.

  • e jerry powell

    Well, we can't be entirely sure that what Cordelia saw in the Axeman is absolutely correct, nor can we be sure what she saw from Fiona putting the necklace on her was correct either. The second sight she forced on herself could be working differently, or Fiona could very well be fucking with everything.

    Now, do I believe that Fiona would have given up that much blood willingly? Probably not, but it wouldn't be the first time something completely illogical has come into The Murph's world out of left field.

  • Jelinas

    Brava, Cindy. This is the perfect summary of all that's right and wrong with this season. It's because it had the potential to be so amazing that it's so disappointing. I mean, WITCHES!! THE CAST!! NEW ORLEANS!! STEVIE!!!! But it was all stitched together even more haphazardly than poor zombie Kyle.

  • e jerry powell

    But you have to admit that Madison picked all the right "boy parts" for Kyle, particularly the bootay.

  • Cordelia is the worst teacher ever. Every single witch in the house is trying to kill one another and she scolds them like they were toddlers fighting over a toy. Then she leaves them all alone with one another again without a second thought. What is your job, Cordelia?

  • I was reading the comments on here and there is one huge difference between Coven and Asylum. One of the strengths of Asylum was your first impression on every character was mostly flipped around by the time it was over. Characters grew over time and the true villains weren't really revealed until it was more than half way over. We rooted for Lana and Kit to escape and clear his name, only to be taken aback by Lana appropriating the story to sell more books. When it's over a significant portion of the story ended up being about redeeming Sister Jude. The fact that the instrument of her redemption was Kit, the inmate she had brutalized earlier, is a moving plot development that it was impossible to see coming.

    In Coven no one is any different now then they were when the story started. Which may have been a month ago, a year ago, I have no idea. Time has no passage on Coven to know when anything is taking place. Ryan jettisoned any semblance of meaning or plot and instead just threw a bunch of garish images and empty spectacle on screen. I kind of think at this point Asylum is going to be as good as it gets.

    Coven should serve as a reminder that listening to your audience is a horrible way to make a show.

  • e jerry powell

    You have to give me the fact that Murder Vag hasn't killed anyone in months now...

  • Jack London

    Murder Vag. Calling dibs on new band name.

  • lowercase_ryan

    really good points. Throwing garish images on the screen makes me think of the intro, which is fantastic, but has no bearing on the show at all.

  • Evolve Today

    Season 2 was a poorly written hot mess, but in the best possible/totally watchable way. This season just flat out sucks. Characters change motivation and personality episode by episode. Everyone dies 3 times and it doesn't matter at all. And we must be watching different shows if you think Gabourey Sidibe is acting well. Holy lord that's a bad performance. The rest of the cast if doing well, aside from many of them being wasted in their character, but she is just a sore thumb.

  • lowercase_ryan

    I'm just going to ignore your first sentence and agree with you completely on the rest of your comment.The resurrection thing is dumb at this point. I've enjoyed Gabby's time on screen, but mainly because of kathy bates maybe? I dunno.

    but seriously, back up off season 2. I. Will. Cut. You...


  • Evolve Today

    I love seasons 1 and 2. But they aren't exactly tightly written. I enjoyed the hell out of em though.

  • At least Asylum's tangents all lead back to the main story. The aliens were in it from the very beginning, the homicidal santa, Anne Frank, they all had a purpose beyond weird-plot-element-of-the-week use they have in Coven.

  • Yeezus. I'd forgotten homicidal Santa.

    So, perhaps the question is, are things as batshit in this season as they were in Asylum at this point in the series, and do we think Murphy can pull it all together by the finale?

  • Asylum was winding down going in to the last episode and tying all the ends up. It was basically one big epilogue other than the present day resolution with Lana. I've watched Asylum twice now. First was a single day marathon last winter and second time was over 2 days in December when we wanted to make
    sure Asylum was as good as we remembered and Coven was really that bad. I liked Asylum even more the second time.

    I don't think Coven can be salvaged. Other than "Who is the next Supreme?" there is nothing driving the season consistently and I don't think anyone gives a shit anymore about the Supreme. We still have no idea what the function of a Supreme is anyway.

  • Evolve Today

    You'll never see me argue against Ian Mcshane as murder santa.

  • lowercase_ryan

    oh god I almost forgot him.

  • lowercase_ryan

    fair enough. I wasn't a fan of season 1.

  • e jerry powell

    Characters have to have motivation to change motivation, and really, most of these characters were blank slates from the jump.

    It's an obscure reference, but I think of the last three seasons of "The L Word," where Chaiken completely abandoned any sense of character integrity and turned everyone into walking, talking plot devices, including the babies (babies without dialogue, admittedly).

  • Evolve Today

    Yeah, that's pretty true. An illusion of motivation pops up occasionally, but the "plot" is too all over the place for it to mean anything.

  • Anna von Beav

    I literally completely forgot about Kyle's mom until I read this. Not blocked out, just literally completely forgot. Also, the whole Madison-rape-bus thing at the beginning. It's all over the damn place, and all "Oh, you like Stevie Nicks? Here's Stevie Nicks! Oh, you like crazy camera work? YOU AIN'T SEEN CRAZY CAMERA WORK," etc. But there's no *purpose* to it. In Asylum, the camera work was AMAZING, because it was used (relatively) sparingly and to underscore the fact that no one was a reliable narrator. This season it's just all willy-nilly. "Hey, let's start this scene upside down! Why? WHO KNOWS?!"

  • Evolve Today

    Yup, totally forgot about those plotlines.

  • e jerry powell

    I think "plotline" is being generous. "Momentary diversion" is my phrase of choice.

  • I feel like Murphy is veering into Lynchian Bunny land. Which, depending upon how you feel about David Lynch, can be good or bad.

  • Jezzer

    Pretentious and incomprehensible? Woo. Hoo.

  • lowercase_ryan

    I don't like the idea of him going there.

  • e jerry powell

    That kind of derivation, scaled like that, and to absolutely no perceptible end is never good.

  • lowercase_ryan

    not to mention next door neighbor killed her husband. lot of threads that lead nowhewhere.

  • Anna von Beav

    Yeah. I forgot about them so much that I remembered only when I read it above, and was going to mention that too but by the time I started the comment I'd forgotten again.

  • Agreed. The entire cute-boy-next-door and evil momma storyline took two steps and then collapsed in a steaming heap.

  • e jerry powell

    I still can't stop wondering how Evan Peters was feeling on the set the day that Lily Rabe beat the shit out of Emma Roberts...

  • A public calling-out, if you will?

  • e jerry powell

    That would be one good turn of phrase...

  • lowercase_ryan

    omg that's brilliant.

    you win the day, for real.

  • maja

    i'm pretty much agreeing with everything written (except for the part that, and i know i'm in minority for saying this, i'm not really digging bassett here. i'm aware of the whole hot mess, over the top situation, but she kinda irritates me with her extreme campiness. can't deny the gorgeousness, though.)
    asylum was fantastic, and i'm so missing cromwell.

  • My problem is simple: there's no commitment from Murphy & co to who the villain/main struggle is.

    Is the main conflict the new, young witches finding their identities and place in this established world of witchcraft? Or is it that one of them is about to be elevated to Supreme? Or is the conflict the rivalry between their "on the down" coven vs the voodoo coven? Is the threat the witch hunters, the voodoo coven, the outside world or the Supreme?

    There's a lot of good story ideas there, but I don't think Murphy and Falchuk really took any of them to completion. Instead, they're all half-baked, half-thought through and just thrown at the screen for maximum shock. Like Madison's gang rape on the opening episode -- it's there for shock and to generate nuKyle. Or Kyle's really creepy mommy or the constant backstabbings or Queenie losing her v-card to an undead Minotaur. Shock that's there to just shock.

    Which would be fine except that by bringing Madame LaLaurie and Marie Laveau and the specter of New Orleans'/The South's past racial and social injustices, it tries to cover its failings in historical horrors that far outweigh the carnage the show portrays.

  • Not only that, but after the shock value it's over. Nothing in Coven connects to anything else. How many times has something happened to someone in the house when everyone else seems to have inexplicably disappeared? Why are ghosts like the Axeman and butler so powerful? There is no story here at all. Witches seem to gain powers by mostly hanging around the house. We got thrown in to this world of witches with no build up and they expected the affection we carried for the actors going in to it to do all the heavy lifting that should have been in the writing and characterization. Coven is incoherent, directionless, and worst of all, boring. If I have no connection with the characters or even an idea what the hell the conflict is, then all the slave torturing, incest, Frankensteining, and axe murders isn't going to keep me interested. I do not watch TV staring brainlessly at the flickering images just to pass the time between dinner and bed. I'd like a story. Especially when it's in the damn title of the show.

    Anyone that thought Asylum was "too dark" has no business watching a series called "American HORROR Story". Thanks for ruining it for those of us that watched AHS for something other than the camp.

  • lowercase_ryan

    totally agree. And I think the idea of the "supreme" has changed. I thought initially the supreme emerged, now everyone is acting like the role is up for grabs. What gives?

  • I've reconciled the supreme thing. The sitting supreme is supposed to identify the next supreme but Fiona didn't. Any other elder witch might have also been able to identify the supreme except that all witches' powers are elevated in a time of crisis so that's not as easy to tell so instead it's time for the Seven Wonders.

  • lowercase_ryan

    I guess I can accept that.

  • Sean

    The main problem is that there is about 4 episodes worth of story to fill 13 episodes. They clearly have no clue as to what to do with the rest of the time. They just repeat things over and over. Perhaps next season, they should just do 8.

  • e jerry powell

    That's a thought, but if you think FX is going to take fewer than 13...

  • dizzylucy

    Ugh, this show. After being disappointed with Season 1 and skipping 2, I only came back because the witch stuff and cast looked so promising. But typical Ryan Murphy show - great concept, zero follow through. I have no idea what the plot is at this point, and the past few episodes have gone nowhere.

  • lowercase_ryan

    Asylum was freaking awesome!

  • Brady

    You should watch Asylum. I think it's far superior to Murder House and Coven. It feels a lot more focused, and it actually has some genuine (if disturbing) things to say about insanity. Plus, it still has that welcome AHS dose of batshit crazy. And the finale is terrific.

  • lowercase_ryan

    I think I've gone too far. Anyone who isn't me will feel weird posting in here now.

  • e jerry powell


  • Brady

    I've kept up with this season because of Frances Conroy, Angela Bassett, and Lily Rabe. Everyone on the show is pretty entertaining, but the three of them are just KILLING IT.

  • lowercase_ryan

    I think I might really be in love with Lily Rabe.

  • e jerry powell

    I'd be in love with Lily Rabe if she didn't look so much like Susan Haskell. Puts me off into Thorsten Kaye world.

  • lowercase_ryan

    yeah, I don't know who that is.

  • e jerry powell

    Because Susan Haskell is 1) older than Lily Rabe, and 2) mostly a daytime actress.

  • lowercase_ryan

    I've never watched daytime tv, so I've got that going for me.

  • Brady

    Especially after she beat the shit out of Madison. That might have been my favorite moment of the whole season.

  • lowercase_ryan

    I admit to a full fledged fear boner during that scene :/

  • Uriah_Creep

    My boner had nothing to do with fear...

  • e jerry powell

    Only fear? I bet there was just a tiny bit of kinky sub in that boner...


  • lowercase_ryan

    no comment :D

  • Sean

    I just assumed most of us were.

  • If you weren't, how could you not after this season?

  • lowercase_ryan

    ok so what changed from last season?
    - the presence of men?
    - or do you think he started with an incomplete story?
    - the desire to lighten shit up?

  • ed newman

    This has been the worst of the 3 seasons so far, but not terrible. Every season has been a hot mess. I worry most about season 4 without Lange. She has held the last two seasons together. Without her, will it just fall apart?

  • lowercase_ryan

    I get the love for Lange (and share it) but Fiona has been a pain in the ass this season. Is she dying or not? is she losing her powers or not? is she in love or not?

    a model of inconsistency

  • She will be in Season 4. I believe Bassett and Bates have already been approached as well.

  • ed newman

    Thanks for the correction. I feel better about Season 4 now.

  • John W

    I was disappointed Alexandra Breckenridge wasn't more involved.

  • Sean

    One scene. She got one scene. And promptly got killed.

  • e jerry powell

    Actually, three. She got sexed and killed, that was one.
    We saw her demonstrate her power, that was two.
    We saw her meet with Cordelia about joining the academy (which she ultimately didn't, but it's how Hank found out about her), which was three.

  • lowercase_ryan

    look at you all observing.

  • e jerry powell

    Not everything in this season merited that much attention, but it was weird that she would have appeared and disappeared in one episode with no explanation as to why Hank did that. The show needs at least two episodes with chunks wasted before it can drop a "narrative thread."

  • lowercase_ryan

    Emma Roberts tho. srsly

  • Guest

    Second. The world needs more Breckenridge.

  • lowercase_ryan

    I'm not sure how much of a stretch it's been for her, but damn if Emma Roberts hasn't been perfect as Madison.

  • e jerry powell

    She had Auntie Julia to model after, so it couldn't have been that difficult.


  • Naye

    Okay, so I didnt know Agent Broyles was master voodoo, OMG I love that man

  • lowercase_ryan

    This was my reaction 2 days ago in the facebook group. Which everyone should join by the way

  • lowercase_ryan

    This whole piece is pretty much dead on. Each week instead of a "previously on..." they should have a "this is what happened between episodes"

    The plot evaporated before out eyes. It would be better titled Adventures in Bitchcraft because it's more like a bunch of witchy vignettes than a cohesive story.

    Not sure I should even ask this, but I wonder if Murphy has trouble writing women who are not in the company of men. He aced the Bechdel test but his writing gets a C- from me.

  • e jerry powell

    What men have there been that actually merited talking about? Not Kyle, not Hank, not Hank's people. The Axeman stopped being worth talking about once Zoe released him from the house, and but for a few minutes, Spalding was all but neutered.

  • lowercase_ryan

    That was what I meant. Last year was fantastic but Murphy had a couple of excellent and strong male characters to play off the women. Watching Marie and Fiona drinking it up like BFFs makes me question his understanding of the woman-woman dynamic.

  • e jerry powell

    There is no understanding, so you can let that go...


  • lowercase_ryan

    ok good, I was seriously wondering if I was off base with that though.

  • e jerry powell

    As gay film people go, George Cukor had a better understanding of the dynamic than Ryan Murphy ever will. Of course, Cukor was only directing from Clare Booth Luce's script, so he only had to heighten the drama a notch to make it work.

  • Mrs. Julien

    How is Gabourey Sidibe's performance?

  • Sean

    She is a terrible actress. However, she seems to be having fun with the material. She seems to be the only one besides Rabe and Lange that know this is all a silly joke. Sidibe is treating it as a comedy.

  • ed newman

    IMO, nothing special.

  • lowercase_ryan

    she's pretty great. I have really liked her with Bates

  • Naye

    I think she's actually doing pretty well. I was kinda meh about her until they brought her back to the coven and she bitched out Marie.

  • Elizabeth Mitchell

    my classmate's mother-in-law Μ­­­­­­а­­­­­­K­­­­­­е­­­­­­ѕ $­­­­74 an հ­­­­­­ο­­­­­­ս­­­­­­r on the і­­­­­­ո­­­­­­τ­­­­­­е­­­­­­r­­­­­­ո­­­­­­е­­­­­­τ. She has been without W­­­­­­ο­­­­­­r­­­­­­K for 7 Μ­­­­­­ο­­­­­­ո­­­­­­τ­­­­­­հ­­­­­­ѕ but last Μ­­­­­­ο­­­­­­ո­­­­­­τ­­­­­­հ her ρ­­­­­­а­­­­У check was $­­­­21848 just W­­­­­­ο­­­­­­r­­­­­­King on the і­­­­­­ո­­­­­­τ­­­­­­е­­­­­­r­­­­­­ո­­­­­­е­­­­­­τ for a Ϝ­­­­­­е­­­­­­W հ­­­­­­ο­­­­­­ս­­­­­­rs. More Info,... WWW.Startwithgooglework2014cha...

    ◙◙◙◙ ◙◙◙◙ ◙◙𐌿◙◙◙ ◙◙◙ ◙◙𐌺◙◙ ◙◙◙ ◙◙◙◙◙◙I worry most about season 4 without Lange. She has held the last two seasons together. Without her, will it just fall apart?

  • CurlieQt

    Lange will be in season 4. She's going to leave after it.

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