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This post is soooo going to get you called fat on IDLYITW.

Shudder....

GAH ZELDA GAAAAAAAHHH!!

was just thinking about this same subject last night while gagging on "deb" from "dexter"s super diminishing skeletal body

Holy crap. I had forgotten about Zelda from Pet Semetary. Let's not forget Madonna in her role as Madonna and Sarah Jessica Parker in role as Sarah Jessica Parker. I was watching Miami Rhapsody and I know it was a long time ago and she was a lot younger then, but SJP was actually quite adorable. She was thin, but nothing like she is today. It's jarring. I mean you don't have to be morbidly obese, but 10 extra pounds on some of these ladies would make a huge difference in their 40's.

Ooh, I love it when you take charge of the comments, Dustin. It's yo birthday, you da man!

Ugh. Christian Bale looks like he was pulled from the Bataan march.
Most of the "freakishly skinny" pictures you include are just "regular" skinny. Freakishly would be some anorexic person, such as Karen Carpenter or Portia de Rossi when she was on Ally McBeal. I'd rather watch a "regular" fat person.

Madonna belongs on this list, too. She is actually terrifying looking.

No. Kidding. I used to go to this great gym, people of all sizes there, great atmosphere, not a meat market at all. There was this one woman who was ALWAYS there (well at least as much as I was) who really, really had to be anorexic and it just HURT to look at her. But as a stranger, there's just no way to go to someone like that and express concern; it's just as inappropriate as it would be to do that to an overweight person.

Ok, I known that you're reacting this way because of the idiotic comments that that Marie Claire writer wrote. However, making fun of people for their weight--big or small--is not ok. Now I know thin is the ideal and many people work towards that ideal, but you can't attack people for being thin any more than you can for them being fat. Particularly people that are just naturally that way.

From this list, take Kiera Knightly or Mischa Barton. It seems to me that both girls are naturally thin, particularly in their upper bodies. Both of them carry their weight in their legs,you can see it in pictures. Not their fault, and they certainly don't deserve an internet blogger calling them disgusting because of their weight. If you're going to take the high road, really do it.

bravo, Kate.

Why does everyone have this thing that one can never ever comment on weight? I have seen the most horrific comments made about people's teeth or other physical features (that great woman who sang Sweet Home Alabama on YouTube)and that's okay? Why is weight such a taboo?

And when the Zombie Apocalypse comes, these emaciated bastards will be the first to fall, while SOME of us will live off of our stored fat until the army arrives to blast them zombies.
Last Laugh: Chubbos

Also, that picture of Mischa Barton isn't disturbing because she looks too skinny, it's disturbing because she looks like a roofied crack whore. The hair/makeup/expression combine for a terrible tableau.

One of the best things I ever did for myself was to root out knee-jerk reactions to people's appearances. I'm not completely there yet (I will admit, I still get skeeved out by the proportions of little people--there, I said it), but I've worked very consciously and very hard to not judge based on the outside, not in my head, not at all. For most people, there's not a damn thing they do can about their outsides. I'm not just talking about weight here. Weight is actually one area we can usually do something about. (Maybe that's why it's so easy to criticize, both directions.) But it's still appearance, so it's still in the "don't judge" category.

After all what does it matter to me how people look? I only pity the writer of the Marie Claire piece, because she cannot or will not see past her own prejudices. I wonder how many potential friendships she has passed up because of the person's appearance?

Angelina Jolie should be in here for Wanted. Watch her scenes in the pharmacy shootout. If you look at her legs, you can differentiate between her femur and her ulna.
Posted by: Fredo at November 15, 2010 4:07 PM

I should hope one can differentiate between her femur and her ulna, each being in a different limb (leg and arm, respectively). Might you mean the tibia and fibula (two lower leg bones)?

Irritating anatomy corrections aside, I totally agree. Despite the fun 'splosions of Wanted, I could barely enjoy it anytime Jolie was onscreen. The filmmakers asking the audience to find her extreme boniness sexy was beyond impossible. Plus, it was difficult to believe that she was this tough assassin since it looked like her arm was going to break in half each time she swung the gun around.

I don't think anyone is taking the high road here - celebrities are made fun of for all kinds of reasons, including appearance. Everyone really should be equally ridiculed.

Next up, bug-eyed motherfrakkers. I'm talking to you, über-talented, freak faced Steve Buscemi.

There is nothing wrong with being thin, I don't mind a lanky fellow myself (David Tennant, you skinny arseless hottie, you!). But there is also a difference between thin and freakish...

Madonna shoud be on this list for looking like gristle. Her most recent film clips aren't so much a narrative as a montage of emaciated pubic bones in a leotard.

Geri Halliwell should be on here for her post-Ginger work, as should Posh for being a tangerine-dyed pig-snouted lollipop head.

I....think....I agree?

One of my favorite artist is Brendan Benson (of the Raconteurs) and while I don't think it's due to anything other than genes, he is a pretty lithe person. Saw him in concert last night and it was pretty noticeable.

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Yea Dustin! Way to miss the point!

Seriously though, I'm grossed out by really overweight people and really skinny people.

But you missed the point bro.

what's wrong with Mischa Barton guys? she looks quite cool by me...

Oh come on people, Give Dustin a break. It's his Birthday and he's really not in the wrong. I'm Sorry but we all choose our weight on some level. We do so being completely aware of the repurcussions. I'm overweight. Yeah I could start exercising more and eating better and all that. It woul probably do wonders for my sex life and I could feel comfortable without a shirt on...I choose not to. If you're grossed out by that and feel the need to express it...Well then go nuts. I chose to be here knowing full well that would happen. If people's perception of your appearance is more important than you're level of comfort in life than be my guest, eat a cake, or run a marathon. But let's not act like you're a godless heathen if you're offended by certain people's choice in body type. Everyone's got the right to an opinion.

Interesting list. When I saw Bale for The Fighter, my first thought was The Machinist. Then you went there, too. I don't see this list as making fun of this problem; it's exposing a double-standard that people like that batshit Marie Claire writer swear by and try to bury with photoshop and paid-off praise.

It hurts me to say this as she is one of my favorite actresses, but Angela Bettis in Girl, Interrupted (she's the anorexic dancer not allowed to have clothes until she eats) and May would certainly qualify as freakishly skinny. She's always that skinny, but she's more exposed in those two films than the others.

I gotta say as a person of larger proportions, not fat just kinda big, Skinny people freak me out. that the stubby fingers on a little person.

*SHIVER*

Lindsey: That's true, but remember Zombieland's #whatever rule: CARDIO.

Cindy: I'd totally be on board for the Bug-Eyes list, but then I'd nominate David Tennant (IT'S TRUE AND YOU KNOW IT) and Pajibans would come after me with pitchforks. Bitches crazy.

I have not seen Zombieland, but I DO run most days. I will say as a recent convert to jogging, cardio IS key.
And as someone who has both starved down to and blimped up to unhealthy levels in the last 18 years, barring metabolic disorders beyond one's control, the extremes are often symptoms of a deeper issue. I do believe some of the people on this list have the naturally skinny thing going on, but I am not so sure about others. I think there are some major control issues there. I am more turned off by the underlying 'crazy' going on. Having been there I am not attracted to it. Actors losing or gaining weight for a role do not fall into that category.

Holy crap! I've worked with Andrew Hubatsek. But I've never seen Pet Sematery (not a King fan). Funny, he doesn't include it in his stage bio....

He's really a very sweet (and not too skinny) guy. Though he definitely fits in your pocket.

I wonder how Bale's body can put up with such extreme weight loss?

Boy I remember when Friends first aired Aniston had such a sexy body to go along with her pretty face. She's still attractive to be sure but she does look under weight.

Knightley looks horrific.

There is somewhat of a racial component to your column Rowles that can‘t be denied. It has been white Hollywood that has pushed the skinny at all cost phenomenon. And it has manifested itself into the majority of your white female actresses and actors walking around trying to out skinny each other. If white Hollywood wasn’t so obsessed with being able to show every inch of its goddamn spinal column then the emaciated look wouldn’t have become America’s holy grail.

The thing I find most attractive in people is the overall appearance of health. Overweight, underweight, or at the exact perfect weight that none of us ever reach, the sexiest thing is health and happiness. Every time I walk into the Bikram yoga studio I take a look at the people that are around me; there are many that would be called "fat", many that would be called "just right", and many that would be called "skinny." But I tell you what, once that heat really slams into you after about 40 minutes, I'll tell you exactly who is fit, not flexible enough to sit on their head, but who looks like they're going to live to the end of class and who doesn't. And it's not always the people you think. Some of those bony chicks will whip your ass around the yoga room. And some of the older, thicker ladies will kick your ass as well. Same for the guys.

But that's really just an example. The weight at which a person is healthy and happy is the right weight for them. And no one should let society tell them any differently.

(Guilty of it's for its-ing, too. I'm a terrible person.)

You know what? Fuck that.

Judging an extreme of body image harshly, than getting angry at other people for judging the other extreme is not only hypocrytical, its fucking obscene.

Its non of your god-damn business what someone eats or doesnt eat. Just shut the fuck up and get back to eating your goddamn sandwich or throwing the sandwich back up.

Also, those photos of Bale just depress me. Please gain back the Batman weight, Bale. I miss it.

"The weight at which a person is healthy and happy is the right weight for them. And no one should let society tell them any differently."

I got nothing to add to this. Nicely put, Stardust.

Ah crud, I forgot to change my name back. I mean...uh...what Captain Hammer said!

Agnes, to be fair, Dustin would still prolly polish knightley's knobs...As would I...

Happy Birthday Dustin

Damnit! I was trying to over-exaggerate the issue to the opposite end of the spectrum to prove the point about Marie Claire to the absurd extreme (hence, suggesting that Zelda is the equivalent of Mike and Molly, when obviously, Zelda is not). I was trying to make the point about not judging people by their weight by using people who obviously lost the weight for movies (and thus, under normal circumstances, are excused from judgment). I wanted to use only people who chose to lose the weight for a part, but I ran out of options, so I opted instead for the easy targets who are uber-thin by choice (but careful not to include Lara Flynn Boyle, who had an obvious eating disorder).

Once again I've inartfully tried to make a point to the absurd, and instead of being faux-asshole, I'm an actual asshole. Apologies.

Happy Birthday, darjeeling. Have some cake.

Well, at least there was only one use of the word "bully". That's gotten way overused lately.

stardust, I totally agree: Keira's big problem in that photo is just the horrible dress with the terrible cleavage, plus the hair and makeup just make her look gaunt. She's a gorgeous girl when she dresses right.

You take that back Miss Figs! David Tennant is perfect.

I think we need to differentiate between people who are thin from eating disorders or body dismorphia, and those who are naturally thin. I eat well but I'm on the thin side. I get SO TIRED of people making jokes about my weight. I don't want to hear the "I bet you are going to vomit that right up" jokes when I eat dinner out with others. It's stupid and cruel. It's NOT FAIR to assume that because someone is thin, they have eating disorders.

That being said, I think Keira is natural. I've seen pics of her as a teen, and she seems to have a thin frame and high metabolism (she is young, you know!). As for Aniston and Jolie, it doesn't strike me as natural. Aniston's early pics show a plumper girl. Jolie's weight has yo-yo-ed. Her brother talked about her stress from having her mother pass away and trying to do it all. Those two ladies should check with the doctor to make sure they are ok. It's hard to tell with Meisha, but she is young?

Is it wrong that I think Matt Damon looks kind of hot in that picture? I mean, his cheekbones are AMAZING. Like, he needs to lay off the lavender face powder, but I'd hit that. And since I'm fat, I'd cushion his hipbones.

Dustin, I think what your post has clearly shown is that a whole lot of us judge people by what we see instead of what really matters. It sucks but that's how it is. I'm one of those naturally skinny people. Technically underweight but unable to gain weight no matter how hard I try or what I do or don't eat. From the time I was in kindergarten I was teased about my weight, called "skeleton", etc. People used to ask my parents if I had an eating disorder.

Now that I'm in my mid-30's people obviously don't say such things but I still get comments like, "You must be so lucky to be so thin" or "Oh, you're one of those people who can eat anything they want and never gain a pound." It sounds like a compliment but it really isn't. It makes me feel like crap. It makes me feel guilty that I don't have to "struggle" with my weight like in the way that most people do. I don't really like that my hip bones stick out or that I'm basically flat-chested but that's how I was made. We all have some part(s) of our bodies that we don't like but it's not what defines us. And screw anyone who thinks it does.

I wasn't sure what you were talking about with Aniston, but then I noticed her arm. I remember Brittany Murphy (May she RIP) host SNL, and I had to look away because her arms were just hard to look at.

...And now I feel have to clarify--if someone doesn't find super-skinny people attractive, that's fine, of course. We can't help our personal tastes. But the disgust and animosity directed at very thin people--women especially--is, as many have already pointed out, no better than Marie Claire's pathetic attempt to be controversial. I realize this post was meant to be funny, but Dustin, you have to admit, you bring up actresses' looks, often as a negative, in a LOT of your reviews.

Rep, bebe, I've seen photos of you. And while you're a slender little minx, you're not what I would call unhealthy looking at all. I would totes hit that. But only after you moved my couch.

No, over there, a little to the left, thaaaaat's it. Now let's do this thing.

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Mischa Barton is not naturally thin, I don't think. She obviously has to work in uh, whatever way she feels fit, to keep her weight down.

I agree with those who defend Keira and Mischa. I am a pear shape like them. I have a very prominent collarbone, ribs where cleavage should be, and pelvic bones that jut out like tiny weapons. I have a very small waist and thin arms and face, BUT I have a round ass and thick thighs and calves. My ankles are not so slender. I'm in the healthy weight range for my height, but I'm on the low side of that range. When I'm fully dressed, people have commented that I'm thin and petite. When they see me in a bikini, they're like, Oh, so THAT'S where the cheeseburgers go. I dread hot weather because if I have to wear shorts or a skirt, I feel like people are stunned when they realize I have thick legs. If a guy hits on me when I'm wearing pants, I'm reluctant to date him because eventually he will realize that I don't have shapely legs. I know this is horribly insecure (and insecurity is more unattractive than thick legs), but the fact that people comment on my weight (even if it's a compliment) makes me feel that I'm always being evaluated. And then I become insecure.

Sometimes I think about Christina Hendricks, who is more often than not, lauded for her curves in all the right places. I wonder if this actually makes her insecure, even though the majority of people admire her figure? Does she ever worry that if she gains a little more weight it will be too much? Or if she loses some, will people say that she is starving herself for Hollywood?

I wish we could just stop commenting on people's weight all together. I know this is impossible because we are a society that is obsessed with weight, and as a result, obsessed with food and dieting (which then results in obesity and anorexia). I really love food. I savor it, I spend hours preparing dishes. Cooking, baking, eating...they are some of my favorite things in life. But when the hot weather comes and I think about revealing my fat ankles, the food starts to lose its flavor. I can actually feel the calories clinging to my thighs. I know it's vain and pathetic, but...makes it hard to enjoy a meal.

Since it is no longer your birthday, I'm going to go ahead and say this post makes you look like a giant douche. How is making fun of skinny people who never said anything bad about fat people a 'fuck you' to Marie Claire for saying bad things about fat people?

"The other day I realized as long as I'm in this business, I'm going to be hungry." -Kristin Bauer (Pam on True Blood)

I agree with every other poster on here (especially Karen) that man-thin and women-thin are totally different. I too mourn the whittling of actresses down: SMG, SJP, Jen An, Jolie, and LiLo. Whatever happened to Kate Bosworth and Laura Flynn Boyle is terrible. Madonna... well, I'm not even going to go there. And for the record I think Kira, Cameron, Charlize, and Swank are naturally really thin girls.

The first time I saw Mischa I knew she was thin only because she was young, and now that her thighs have come in- she is openly miserable about how the media has been treating her. Mischa was a bad choice, Dustin, because the media beat her up when she was too thin and now that she has gained weight (really just on the bottom) magazines have been running endless pictures of her thighs and cellulite.

Not that we are looking, right? Not that I have like studied and obsessed about this along with everyone else who is a participant in this tabloid Panopticon, right? Yeah, I grew up reading the Enquirer every week and on fashion magazine. I also went through puberty in the 1990's when the "Waif" look hit. Models were always thin, but that was when actresses began to replace models on magazine covers. There used to be a pretty clear divide between Hollywood bodies, and Vogue bodies. Things have gotten skinnier and scarier to qualify as a woman in Hollywood now. As a participant observer I wonder when it will stop.

In 2007 Jessica Alba was quoted as saying, "I know I'm curvy. I'm working on it." That's two years after Sin City, and thank god because wasn't she a porker in that? I like Bauer's quote because she's being so upfront about what is expected of women in the industry. And she's an "everyday" actress not someone who is noted for being thin. So our "normal looking" actresses are starving and our thin ones are... what? Probably on the cover of Marie Claire.

You know, you could have made the point much more effectively had you also posted a photo of Christina Hendricks or Helen Mirren, you know, just for comparison.