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We hated Piz? Hm. I guess I felt sorry for him...

I don't watch any of these shows so I couldn't agree or disagree.

It is not physically possible for me to hate Mary-Louise Parker. In fact, it was her role as Amy that made me love her.

Piz can go shit in his hat, though.

Accept for Laura Prepon, I disagree with your HIMYM picks.

And since when was Karen from the Office an unlikeable character?

Now, Melissa Lauren's character and her stupid accent, I can get behind.

What about the odious Mandy from "West Wing" played by Moira Kelly? She was HORRIBLE.

I still have not forgiven Alias for that twist. I hated that woman with a fiery passion. How dare she!!!

Four hits for HIMYM. All four pictures include the worst part of the show, yet he gets no mention.

I didn't even remember that guy on Friday Night Lights.

I certainly did not hate Karen on The Office.

I hate everybody on True Blood.

I would have added Neelix on Star Trek: Voyager. Goddamn was that guy annoying.

Wait, what?

I LOVED Mary-Louise Parker as Amy in The West Wing.

After reading her name, I immediately scrolled up and expected to find Rowles name. Joanna, I'm disappointed in you.

Oh Piz! All we are saying, is give Piz a chance.

Nope. Still hate him.

Can we please add Josh Radnor as Ted in HIMYM to the list? Nobody in that show makes me want to hook my brain out through my nostril as much as Ted.

When there's lists, it should be a maximum of two characters per show listed. This is really bupkis to those who haven't invested into the HIMYM craze. (I haven't had the time.)

I haven't forgiven Alias for that twist.

I would definitely add Christopher from Gilmore Girls, and that complete DOUCHE who played Rory's boyfriend in the last season. Logan, I think. He was an asshole. And Jesse, too. They both ruined the show in that last season.

And oh, how I hate Vampire Bill, though really, that's just the writer's fault for making him a complete pussy. He's supposed to be a VAMPIRE, not some whiny little Edward Cullen wannabe!

I'm with you, clatie.

Awesome West Wing Ladies: CJ, Donna, Mrs. Landingham, Margaret, Nancy McNally, Gina Toscano, Zoe, Ainsley Hayes, Joey Lucas, Abby Bartlet

Less than Awesome West Wing Ladies: Amy, Mandy, Annabeth Schott (I give Kristen Chenoweth's character a little credit here, as Aaron Sorkin was never around to write awesome things for her to say)

Meh: Elsie Snuffin (awesome name though), Kate Harper, Will Bailey's speechwriting Rockettes

Thoughts?

Also-Milo Ventimilgia as shithead Jess in Gilmore Girls. He ruined every scene he was in, save for when Luke pushed his ass into the lake.

Huh. For once, I completely, 100% do not agree with a single choice here. For one, it's always Laura Prepon's fault. For two, you're totally missing Hiro from Heroes.

As such, I'll have to put my internet crush on hold for the day. We'll see how you do tomorrow.

There is no one, no. one. as bad as Tara on True Blood. At least Vampire Bill brings some angsty cheese that's sometimes amusing. Rutina Whats-her-name's acting basically consists of bugging her eyes out of her head to convey any/all emotion.

West Wing presents the Amy vs. Mandy conundrum. At least Mandy went away. Amy kept coming back. Plus, it made me hate Josh that he was so into Amy, so I'm torn. It's tie.

Rachel Bilson's cuteness allows her to make anything at worst tolerable

Hated Piz. Disliked Karen, but HATE Ann on Parks & Rec. Loved Scott Foley on Scrubs though.

How about:

Dawn - Buffy the Vampire Slayer

Emily - Friends

Everyone Lorelai slept with not named Luke - Gilmore Girls

1. I agree that TED is what is truly wrong with HIMYM. None of those horrible female characters (and I agree they are horrible) would have had the opportunity to be there were it not for Ted.

2. I believe it's "Vam-pie-uh BEEEEEL." And he is annoying, much as I found Angel extremely annoying back when he was the Emo Vampire Stud du jour. Much as Erik and Spike are equally awesome.

3. Hells yes to whomever suggested that it was Dawn, not Riley, that brought down BtVS into the pit of despair.

4. I have to disagree on Rashida Jones. I think she is totally adorable in everything she does. Even that show Wanted, which was really terrible despite its fascinating cast.

I'm a little confused that there are this many unlikable characters on How I Met Your Mother and that apparently so many of you are still watching and enjoying it. I guess Neil Patrick Harris simply has that much power.

I think the hatred for Riley in Buffy was mainly beacuse we all missed Angel.

I remember how much I despised him, as a 14 year old girl....wishing Agnel would return. I do now appreciate the fact that he needed to leave to make the awesomeness that was Angel season 2-4.

Ohmigod figgy, you are so right about Kate. Why Mr Eko, Charlie, Juliet, Locke et al had to be killed off and Kate was allowed to live is just another example of why Jacob was the tooliest tool-Christ outside of Home Depot.

Toolist tool-Christ inside Home Depot? Miracle Blade. It came, it saw, it didn't conquer shit.

Although some of the people on HIMYM can be annoying and Lily has morphed from likable to a harpie (no matter how many catchphrases they try to give her i.e. the horrible where's the poop thing from this season) when Stella came back, my fiancee and I yelled at the screen in horror. Zoey sucks too, but Stella was just the worst.

And anyone who thinks Amy Gardner was a terrible character needs to line up so I can bitchslap them. She was a perfect foil for Josh, because she not only was sexy, but she knew just as much and sometimes more than Josh, which he needed because he was such a strong character. I always thought Donna was a little ditzy and even though I knew they would end up together, I didn't root for it. I think you put Amy on the list to start some trouble.

Finally, any list without Dawn or Glory isn't really a list now is it? Riley was a cipher with the personality of a jello mold, but Dawn and Glory went out of their way to annoy people at all times.

Poor Riley. No one liked poor Riley. Even Buffy didn't like poor, desperate, pathetic Riley.

Oh and YOU LEAVE SWEET DAWN ALONE! SHE IS THE KEY TO THE SAFETY OF THE UNIVERSE AND YOU WILL SHOW HER SOME GODDAMN RESPECT!

[weeps, gripping dvd of Eurotrip]

I really liked Piz. I never understood all the hate for him. And I like at least half of those HIMYM characters you have up there.

Matt Czurchy's Logan character from Gilmore Girls is one of my most hated characters. But I love him on The Good Wife.

Yes, Penelope! Fuckin' Ziggy!

anon33 YES! Thanks for pointing that out. The long discussions about the kiss were totally psycho.

My main problem with Piz was that the character was such a blantant ripoff of Seth Cohen from The O.C.. I love Seth Cohen, but there can be only one.

I concur with the Ziggy hate. Also loathed Scott Templeton from season 5.

Agent Stahl (Sons of Anarchy)
Sookie and Tara (True Blood)
Lucy (Boardwalk Empire)

I LOVE Scott Foley on Scrubs and Rashida Jones on The Office! And I quite like (though can totally see not liking) Mary-Louise Parker on The West Wing. Though I've noticed that Parker is a definite love-her-or-hate-her actress, no matter what role she's in. I happen to love her, but that's just me.

But Riley on Buffy was THE WORST!

Rubble44- I'm stepping up. Hope you have your Code Duello Face-Slapping Gloves. Allow me to lay out my case for why Amy Gardner is annoying.

1. Her tone of voice. I guess her deadpan is supposed to be snarky and smart, but it makes her sound disinterested in every topic.

2. She embodies all of the worst stereotypes of modern feminism: whenever she and Josh disagree, she nags or ignores him until she gets her way. She's a career lobbyist who puts her career ahead of her personal relationships, and she appears to have no friends. Her cause is an excellent one, but she's written and portrayed as a pretty unpleasant person.

3. She only shows up when the show is going to discuss "women's issues", and when she does snark her way into frame, I think, "Fuck. Here's Amy, so tonight we're going to hear arguments about Roe or prostitution or ERA, and they're not going to talk anput it in that delightfully hopeful, geeky, uplifting way that we talk about Galileo V or funding higher ed for the middle class. Somebody's going to be pissed at the end of this, and that party will likely include me. Where's my bottle of Kraken...", i'll say, and thengo in search of said booze.

So, that's my salvo in this little skirmish over what is or is not subjectively annoying. Eviscerate my opinion at your leisure.

Also agree with everyone re: Ziggy. JESUS CHRIST I hate that guy.

I thought Melissa George was universally reviled, particularly after the fiascoes that were Sadie on Grey's Anatomy and Laura on In Treatment. I know I can't see her face without hearing metal grinding and nails dragged across hundreds of chalkboards simultaneously.

So, Matt, we're not supposed to like them but we are not allowed to rip into them? Really?

Next time maybe it should be 12 characters from HIMYM we hate. Though I never hated Lily, not that she didn't have a couple "aww c'mon" moments. For me Lily and Barney are the only safe characters I'd never put on such a list. Though Ted is the character of the main cast with the most "aww c'mon" moments.

As far as Alias goes, I liked Lauren once I knew she was supposed to be bad, and not just that I thought she was bad. However Rachel Gibson or Rachel Nichols, I forget which one is the character and which is the actress... let's go with both. I know Jennifer Garner was preggo at the time and so someone else had to do all the martial arts and jumping out of windows and whatever other crazy shit that normally happened to Sydney Bristow, so someone had to pick up the ball and run... but no thank you. I've had a theory for a long time that any actor/actress whose character's name and their name are the same are a pretty crappy thespian. If you don't read the script and see your name before the colon you will never know what lines to memorize, what mark to move to, or if any other characters are actually talking to you.

And now upon actually looking her up and seeing she is attached to the Conan the Barbarian I recant my previous comment in the latest thread about that film.

oh yeah I totally support the nomination for Eliza Dushku from anything.

I'll give you two reasons.

I don't like her and she has a stupid face.

Holy crap, I forgot Starbuck! The most unpleasant human being in TV history!

I felt bad for Piz. He didn't stand a chance against Logan. Duncan in season 2 on the other hand, I could have done without.

Herc. HERC. HERC. I loathe Herc with the blazing intensity of a billion exploding suns.

Oh yeah... I forgot Kate from 'Lost' I wish *she* had been unceremoniously blown up with dynamite instead of Zuleika Robinson's character.

Hated the whiny Charlie Pace too.

Agent Stahl on SOA was AWESOME! *SPOILER*

Bitch even killed her own girlfriend and pinned her for a murder. What a perfect psycho, I loved her!

Kat was a preening little twat but Starbuck was truly one of the most horrible people ever created. I thought she was pretty great when I first started watching but they turned her into a really loathsome bitch.

Hated Dawn, really hated Faith.

There's a rant coming on. Christopher from GG does not deserve the hatred. He was a crappy parent, no argument here. At times a bad parent, yes, bad boyfriend/husband, no. The last two seasons Luke was written as ass and then they made Christopher as an ass in the very end to make Luke redeemable. Luke and Lorelai had no chemistry when they were together. At least you could tell Lauren Graham actually liked David Sutcliffe.

I see you didn't list Victoria from Season 1 of How I Met Your Mother in there. Good. I liked her a lot.

But now that you lined up most of Mosby's girls, it's very obvious he has a type. Blonde.

NOOOO!! Rashida Jones' Karen has my sincerest sympathies. I didn't quite "get" her as an actress, but then I read that (in real life) her parents are Quincy Jones and Peggy "Mod Squad" Lipton, and how cool is that?!

Also, you forgot Paz De La Huerta on Boardwalk Empire. Although I do appreciate her nudity.

I hated Mary-Louise Parker on Weeds. I stopped the series because I just couldn't take watching the Adventures of the World's Worst Mother anymore.

HIMYM Writers: give Lily a half-way decent plot already. She's the most wasted character on a show full of wasted characters.

Fucking Piz.

**SPOILERS FOR VERONICA MARS**

While I find Piz to be not nearly scintillating enough for the beloved Veronica (beloved despite her frequent lapses into bitchiness in season three) he deserves far less hate than Duncan, who:

1) found out he was in love with his illegitimate half-sister (or so he thought) and never told her, just dumped her like a hot potato without an explanation

2) a couple months later, he slept with her ANYWAYS while she was incoherent from roofies

3) that same night, she had already been raped and this doofus didn't even notice ("Uh, Veronica, sweetie, your panties are ripped, is that the new style??")

4) then they got back together and lo, it was boring

5) then his ex-girlfriend turns up pregnant and Duncan jeopardizes Veronica's entire future by involving her in a kidnapping plot

Seriously, Piz was a GOD compared to Duncan.

I always find it a little weird when people hate on Karen. Pam is a dumbass secretary, at least Karen was smart/driven. But I suppose men all love the dumbass secretary?

Also, HATE ted. There is a subset of men who ARE Ted keeping him f'ing alive.

I am here to second superasente's "Poor, poor Riley."

Really? Hate?? Most of these characters were blips on the radar and in fact could barely qualify as "guest stars". And I'm sorry, Jim didn't deserve Karen on the office. She doesn't deserve to be on this list for "Pam...She's kind of a bitch" alone. Way to call it early.

This has to be said. Joanna, your jealousy towards Ted's women of HIMYM is obvious and uncalled for. There I said it.

Wow, you guys are really verbose when it comes to who we hate. I kind of love you bitches.

I actually liked Riley, but whatev. And Dawn could choke on a bone wow that sounded dirty, and I really didn't mean for it to was lame.

As for Piz, I think what most people hated was the whole friggin' third season, and they focused that anger at him. He wasn't hate-able, just pitiable.

You forgot the two most horrid characters on any show at any time in the history of television.
The dreaded S8 of That 70's Show. Way to ruin a show writers. Peeeeeeeyoooooooo

Randy ( Josh Meyers)

here Josh, here is your script....just read the joke...then laugh and shake your hairdo. Yup HAIRDO!!!

Stripper ( Jud somethingorother)

I don't even have the words.....

But thanks writers for making Hyde, once the coolest dude ever, into the biggest asshole on tv

Skyler - Breaking Bad.

Hold up, the worst character on True Blood is obviously Sookie and she is also the reason that Bill sucks so hard. Look at scenes of him with Jessica, Eric or Sam (the water in Arkansas is VERY hard indeed) and you'll see that he's actually quite entertaining. Sookie on the other hand, needs to be banished to Herbal Essences Fairy Land forever.

Also, I'm firmly PRO-Christopher on Gilmore Girls and was so bitter that Luke and Lorelai got together at the end. She and Chris just 'clicked' every time they shared the screen (and yeah, maybe it's because Graham and Paterson hated each other, but whatever - I just couldn't buy them together).

And poor Piz. He was so fluffy and harmless.

I agree with Seth, I HATE Skyler on Breaking Bad... even worse, I hated that same actress on Deadwood. There's just something about her face.

I have to say that as much as I can appreciate why someone might have issues with Amy on West Wing--especially when it came to the "keep coming back" feature--I found myself falling deeply in love with MLP because of that show. Specifically, because of the "Somebody's Going to Emergency, Somebody's Going to Jail" episode. And her dancing to "Caravan." Weak knees and drool just thinking about it.

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