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The Decade's Most Popular Secret Shames


A Seriously Random List / Dustin Rowles

Seriously Random Lists | December 8, 2009 | Comments (108)


This decade’s Secret Shames are, more often than not, the next decade’s Hangover Theater films. It’s a decade-long process, really. Movies debut on the screen to terrible reviews, eventually get aired on television cable on a loop, and then viewers inexplicably get caught up in them, revel in their atrociousness, and a consensus begins to form until films once thought to be terrifically heinous can be collectively appreciated on the so-bad-it’s good scale. The next thing you know, it’s in your DVD collection, and you’re waking up on a Saturday morning covered in your own drool and begging your roommate to pop in fucking Joe Dirt because you can’t bear anything more intelligent.

Over the years, Secret Shames have been a popular topic on Pajiba — it takes an intelligent audience, I suppose, to own up to their guilty pleasures without fear of reproach. And as someone familiar with thousands of comments over the years (Fun Fact: We’re up to 300,000 comments since Homeland Security shut us down in May 2005), for good or bad, I’ve been able to piece together what our a good deal of our readership considers this decade’s biggest secret shames.

Keep in mind, however, that these movies — as a whole — do not reflect the sensibilities of any one of the site’s writers, though a few may fall under that category for some individual critics here (I would count four of them among my personal secret shames). They are your Secret Shames. To own. To feel ashamed of. To be kept a secret from your real-life peers. At least for another few years, until — like Showgirls or Roadhouse in years past — a generational consensus builds around them and it finally becomes OK to admit, in public, your weakness for these certain bad movies.

Own your suck:

(Note: Where a Pajiba review already exists for a certain film on the list below, I have pilfered a blurb, without rewriting them in the context of this piece. I’m not about to change an opinion to reflect your bad tastes in movies.)

Bring It On: Like a lot of straight men out there, I liked Bring It On more than I care to admit. Director Peyton Reed infused Jessica Bendinger’s screenplay with hyperactivity and plenty of eye candy and, coupled with Bendinger’s often cringe-worthy dialogue, the film soared well past comedy and landed squarely in camp classic territory. There’s something about the near-ubiquity of the USA Network reruns of the movie that make it almost impossible not to watch. It’s a dumb movie, but not an unpleasant way to kill a couple hours. — Daniel Carlson

Joe Dirt: Joe Dirt is not a good movie. I accept this fact. The plot is laughably cobbled together from lame joke set-up to lame joke set-up like someone trying to assemble a shantytown with the remnants of “Saturday Night Live” circa the late nineties. The jokes are more fetid than a green-tinted steak served by Lunchlady Doris. The cast is comprised of a bunch of second bananas and/or lesser siblings from celebrity dynasties. Captaining this ship of fools is David Spade, one of the worst things to happen to late night television since Magic Johnson immuno-deficiented his way from cable access. In fact, you don’t even care if you see the entire film from start to finish. But while trying to swallow it whole may very will kill you with its badness, taken in easily digestible chunks, this movie is actually quite charming. — Brian Prisco

Love, Actually: Fuck it, I’ll fall on the grenade. I think Love, Actually is great. Yes, it’s heavy on cheese, but in my opinion, it’s very funny, quite clever, and sweet as a motherfucker. Hate all you want, but I watch it every goddamn year … I’m sorry, but anyone who hates Love, Actually has a burnt popcorn kernel for a heart. I adore that movie. — TK

Reign of Fire: Reign of Fire is possibly the best dragon movie ever made. And that’s what makes the con so insidious. You see, we’ve been cursed time and time again with terrible dragon movies — a genre that, especially in this day and age, should be a no-brainer. But instead we’ve suffered through Dragonheart, Dragon Slayer, D-War, and God knows how many awful, awful Sci-Fi Channel dragon movies, including one with Dean Cain that actually made me cry tears of blood. So yes, stacked up against those travesties, it quite possible is the best … but that’s akin to being the proud owner of the nicest, loveliest, most beautifully formed pile of shit. At the end of the day, you’re still left with a pile of shit. That’s essentially what Reign of Fire is — the prettiest pile of shit in your DVD collection. Do yourself a favor — put it in a plastic baggie and throw it away. You can thank me later. — TK

Step Up & Step Up 2: If Dirty Dancing was the Deep Throat of dance porn, then Step Up is to dance porn what Jenna Jameson is to adult films (which would make You Got Served! the Paris Hilton sex tape). And if you judge Step Up solely on that basis, it’s hard not to call it a success. I’ll reiterate, again, that — as a film, Step Up is an abomination, and the screenwriters ought to be sent back to drafting cue cards for the “Mickey Mouse Club — but as a form of mild entertainment, specifically for its target audience: Step Up is fucking incredible. I mean, lookit: I’m a southern white boy — I can’t even properly do the white-man’s underbite unless someone is pickin’ a banjo or blowing in a jug. Worse, I now live in a city where the closest thing we get to “dancing” involves middle-aged women belly dancing at the town festivals (for reals), which is part of the reason I’m weirdly attracted to these films: It’s something I don’t get to see anywhere else. I understand, just as anyone that can rub three brain cells together to create a flicker of mind power, that these movies are rotting cranial cavities, but the better ones also feature some zit-popping, heart-exploding dance sequences. They are, as the kids say, off the hook (and by “kids,” I mean Mitt Romney’s kids). — Dustin Rowles

Dragon Wars: Dragon Wars is of South Korean origin, directed by Shim Hyung-rae, and the biggest film to ever come from that fine nation. That many of the elements in D-Warsmight be lost in translation could account for the film’s remarkable clumsiness, but not quite to this degree. Now, an open letter to South Korea: As a vagabond student, I’ve known a large number of your citizens and, to a person, they’ve been kind, intelligent, well-balanced people and after seeing some of the exceptional films of Kim Ji-Woon, Bong Joon-ho, and of course, Park Chan-wook, I’ve come to expect great things from your cinema. But after watching D-War, I’m afraid I not only have to rescind these compliments, but to openly call for the genocide of all Koreans and their culture. In short, South Korea: You do a grave disservice to yourself by letting this Shim Hyung-rae make movies about you. — Phillip Stephens

Drumline: I will always stop whenever Drumline is on, just to note what time it’s supposed to end. Then I will go about my daily chores: reading books, talking to people on the phone, making food, whatever. Anything but actually watching the movie. Because nothing of any importance matters, except the last sequence. The last five minutes of the film, the awesome drum sequence showdown. And it is awesome. But it’s awesome in the way that ESPN2 is awesome, with the Stihl Outdoor Games or National Jumproping Championship. You get sucked in by the insanity and athleticism of the people competing in this blatantly non-sport. Five hours later, and suddenly you realize it’s dark out and you’ve been glued to the television watching trick-pool shooting. You can leave and come back and it never matters because you missed nothing. All that matters in the finale. The same can be said of Nick Cannon. — Brian Prisco

From Justin to Kelly: Still a damn fine movie and the last one I saw in theaters that met my awful, horrendous filmmaking qualifications. Like a good wine, it just gets better and better (meaning worse and worse), every year. For God’s sake, there’s a skirt made of ties not worn ironically! Hovercraft racing! A shifty-eyed southern blond with daddy issues! Texting as a plot point before most of America had experienced it! Reality stars really struggling to emote! The only thing that could have been better (worse) is if the Idol contract had been iron-clad enough to have forced the entirety of the Top 10 into the film as was the original plan. — Robert, an Eloquent

Twilight: Twilight is intoxicating. And I don’t mean that as a compliment. It’s intoxicating like convenience-store malt liquor — you get a hangover before you’re even drunk. It’s addictive. Like crack cocaine, only you don’t get to experience the high, you just skip straight ahead to the blackout and wake up in a stranger’s bed with a matchbox car six inches deep into your rectum. But you can’t turn away. There’s nothing you want more than to get up and walk out, but you’re drawn in — like a moth to an industrial-sized fan — stuck wriggling helplessly in your seat, knowing that your body is slowly being dissected by a crushing tedium. Twilight is train-wreck theater, only the promise of a derailment, carnage, and mass dismemberment never comes to fruition. The train chugs along slowly toward a cliff with no rails, but the cliff never arrives. —Dustin Rowles

Crank: Crank comes in with no expectations, no pretensions, no star wattage, zero character development, not an iota of intelligence, absolutely no fucking plot, and an originality quotient in the negative numbers. Yet, for a lack of better phraseology, Cranks kicks some sweet, sweet ass. No kidding. Just when you think you’re taking one for the movie-critic team, Jason Statham seemingly walks straight out of an amphetamine brothel and provides a cinematic high no less gratifying than Michael Hutchence’s final autoerotic seconds, squeezing every last bit of energy out of its premise and leaving you limp and gasping for air. — Dustin Rowles

My Bloody Valentine 3D: My Bloody Valentine 3D is a movie that’s monumentally awful. But it’s the most fun I’ve had at a horror movie since the last Final Destination flick. What’s particularly troubling about My Bloody Valentine, however, is that I can’t tell if the director, Patrick Lussier (White Noise 2: The Light, Dracula 2000) is a genius or spectacularly incompetent. The result, here, is the same: Horrendous acting, unbelievably awful plotting, and bloody fucking awesome death scenes. That’s the ’80s way, y’all. You know you’re watching a special kind of movie when a white crowd — and not just white, but Maine white — is yelling at the screen. The typical audience reaction: A bunch of teenagers laughing their fool goddamn heads off for 90 minutes and walking out, exclaiming “Worst Movie Ever!” In other words, My Bloody Valentine is sucktastic. The body count is huge, the gore is off the hook, and the plot is hilariously nonsensical. — Dustin Rowles


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I've seen five of those, and I think I have to say that of those five, Reign of Fire is my favorite, followed closely by Crank. Or maybe Crank first, depending on my mood that day. Just good, mindless, shitty movies.

Posted by: Snath at December 8, 2009 2:10 PM

That is a well-curated list of shite.

Just watched me some Joe Dirt yesterday. Made me pine for the days when Dennis Miller wasn't an uptight reactionary dickhead pandering to Fox News viewers.

Posted by: icecreammang at December 8, 2009 2:15 PM

I'd count Bring it On and Drumline amongst my personal secret shames. I love stupid "sport" movies.

Plus I'm still convinced that TK looooooooooves Reign of fire. No one who loves Love, Actually that much can hate Reign of fire.

Love, Actually? Seriously? I mean, I liked Emma Thompson and Alan Rickman but....dude.

Posted by: figgy at December 8, 2009 2:18 PM

Wow, I have bad taste in movies, and even I won't watch From Justin to Kelly or Joe Dirt...

Posted by: Patty O'Green at December 8, 2009 2:18 PM

Love, Actually defies the equation- its parts are greater than the whole. The sequence in the airport. Liam Nesson's widower (extra sniffle now).

And Emma Thompson's quiet cry in the bedroom is the most heartbreaking scene on film in the past 20 yrs.

Posted by: BananaPanda at December 8, 2009 2:23 PM

Bring It On and Love, Actually are definitely ones I've watched repeatedly on cable. Might I also submit Legally Blonde. Not good at all, but endearing and infinitely quotable.

Posted by: kelsy at December 8, 2009 2:26 PM

This was a great list, and I now feel compelled to watch the movies I haven't yet seen. Unfortunately, or perhaps fortunately, depending on how you look at it, I have seen most of these movies. My favorite, hands down, is Crank. That movie made me laugh all the way through, while keeping me biting my nails and on the edge of my seat all at the same time.

Off topic, but I have a quick question. As a relative newbie to the site, what is all this talk about the government shutting the site down? It sounds like an interesting story, but I have no clue what y'all are talking about.

Posted by: Morgan LaFai at December 8, 2009 2:27 PM

Excuse me, but NO ONE should be ashamed of Love, Actually. It is a Christmas gem, you fucking soulless philistines. I want a dude to show up at my door on Christmas Eve with a bunch of posterboards telling me that I am the love of his life. No, seriously. I want that.

I mentioned this somewhere else, but I will watch the end of Drumline every time it is on VH1. That is badass.

Posted by: Nicole at December 8, 2009 2:31 PM

I haven't seen any of these, I'm waiting for download or cable, but the best bad movie of the decade is easily Beerfest. It comes with no pretentiousness, no originality, and a retard quotient that could blot out the sun, but it works. It may be the best worst movie of all time.

Posted by: George at December 8, 2009 2:39 PM

And Emma Thompson's quiet cry in the bedroom is the most heartbreaking scene on film in the past 20 yrs.

So true. It's like we share a brain, BananaPanda. We should be friends, you know, like mates... of the soul. You look beautiful in that light. It's really bringing out your features. Do you like seafood? I know this great little seafood place if you're interested.

Posted by: jM at December 8, 2009 2:42 PM

I've seen and LOVE five of those films. I know they suck too so I don't find a need to tell anyone that Step Up 2 was the best movie I saw in my senior year of college. At the end, when the girl gives the impassioned speech about "the street" - how could you not want to get up and dance in the (conveniently timed) rain!?

And don't even get me started on Love Actually (which, btw, is an insanely awkward movie to see in theaters with your conservative mother and aunt).

Posted by: Danna at December 8, 2009 2:43 PM

Are people really putting Bring It On and Love, Actually on a secret shame list? Come on, those movies are awesome.

Posted by: Jeni at December 8, 2009 2:45 PM

Blade Trinity is one of my favorite worst movies. That shit is golden. Just like Ryan Reynolds' abs.

Posted by: Pinky McLadybits at December 8, 2009 2:46 PM

Bring It On, Step Ups 1 & 2...anything with people flying in the air to some kind of dance beat...I'm there! And Emma Thompson in anything. Anything at all. :)

Posted by: Chickaboom at December 8, 2009 2:46 PM

i can haz aspergers.

Posted by: Adventureman at December 8, 2009 2:46 PM

I don't consider Bring it On or Love Actually to be secret shames since they're both cute, well-made, very appealing movies.

Step Up, on the other hand, is total secret shame material.

Posted by: Claire at December 8, 2009 2:48 PM

Morgan LaFai: This is from the Pajiba Dictionary.

"Department of Homeland Security: Cabinet department of the U.S. federal government with the responsibility of protecting the territory of the U.S. from terrorist attacks and responding to natural disasters. In May 2005, under the Bush administration, DHS mysteriously seized the hard drives of the server Pajiba then resided on, offering no explanation nor ever returning hard drive (several other sites also resides on the server). The site was rebuilt from Google caches, and any and all comments prior to May 2005, as well as a handful of comments and our short-lived political section, were forever lost."

Posted by: Pinky McLadybits at December 8, 2009 2:48 PM

I gotta jump on the Love, Actually bandwagon. As previously noted, Emma Thompson's quiet cry was gold, pure gold. I just might have to breakout the DVD tonight for this year's annual viewing.

Posted by: sosumi at December 8, 2009 2:48 PM

Morgan LaFai,
Pajiba is Brazilian slang for cocaine. In the heady days just after the dot com bubble bursting, when everyone was groping for orientation, Dustin Rowles emerged as the number one online cocaine dealer in North and Central America(never could crack in South America, though). Eventually, as always, he began to dip into his own stash. On one particular three-day-weekend bender, he went crazy and thought that Blow was his real-time autobiography. He started posting a diary entry about it on this site and people mistook it for a surprisingly thoughtful movie review. Thus, the review part of this site was born. The increased hits to the site caught the attention of the DEA who raided Dustin's home and seized his possessions and also the company that hosted his website. A plucky young officer forgot to get a search warrant signed, and Rowles got off on a technicality. He got the sight back up on a different server, but he never got the original files back. Realizing he could sell ads, he decided to go legit and just do reviews. And there you have it.

Actually, it was long before I even heard of the site, but as I understand it the server that hosted this site(and many others) got seized by an entity of the American government. It had nothing to do with Pajiba, just some other site(s) on that server. Anyway, they never got the files back and pieced together what they could(including comments) from Google caches. Why they weren't properly backed up is anybody's guess, but that's what I understand happened.

Posted by: pissant at December 8, 2009 2:49 PM

YOU SEE?!

It's not just me.

Suck it, Dustin.

Posted by: TK at December 8, 2009 2:50 PM

My two favorite Christmas movies are Love, Actually and Elf. I agree with most of the criticisms of Love, Actually, but don't care. I'm not ashamed of my love for it either. And I too, wish there were someone crazy enough to show up on my doorstep with poster boards declaring their eternal love for me. There is nothing wrong with or unrealistic about that wish.

Posted by: Girl With Curious Hair at December 8, 2009 2:54 PM

I have one major complaint against Love Actually: all the fat jokes against a girl who isn't even fat! At least in the Bridget Jones world, Bridget is making those delusional remarks about herself, whereas in LA, everyone is calling poor Natalie a cow and other such gross nicknames. Gah...it still makes me angry.

Posted by: bonnie at December 8, 2009 2:54 PM

If loving Crank and Reign of Fire is wrong, I don't want to be right.

I agree that, SADLY, Reign of Fire is the best dragon movie around at present. I have long feared yet hoped for the day when the Dragonriders of Pern series gets translated to the screen.

Posted by: MM at December 8, 2009 2:57 PM

I've seen Love, Actually quite a few times, and it's probably one of my favorite Christmas movies. I certainly don't consider as shameful as my other favorite from this list: Crank. My husband & I have watched Crank many, many times. It has something for both of us. For him, Amy Smart, whom he loves despite my constantly reminding him of the variety of slut roles she's played (wait, maybe that's the appeal). For me, Jason Statham's glorious ass. And for both of us: plenty of gore, mutilation, and Dwight Yoakam.

Posted by: badkittyuno at December 8, 2009 2:58 PM

My love for Reign of Fire and The McConahauggghphwatooey's T-Rex are is neither secret nor shameful. If a complete stranger walked up to me on the street and said, "Hey pretty lady, do you enjoy Reign of Fire?" I would respond, "Hellloooo! Sweaty Christian Bale! Does the pope shit in the woods? Of course I love it!"

I am a little embarrassed to admit that I kind of want to watch Twilight and make a drinking game out of it. Is that wrong? Should I be ashamed to admit that? I just really want to get hammered and laugh at it. Anybody have any suggestions as to what the rules of the game should be?

Posted by: stardust at December 8, 2009 2:58 PM

TK, high five.

Girl, "There is nothing wrong with or unrealistic about that wish."
Damn right. I don't think y'all realize that is on my list of things I want before I die. Someone get on that.

Posted by: Nicole at December 8, 2009 2:58 PM

I love 'Love Actually'.
Love it. I also love Hugh Grant. There. I said it. Secret shame. He could butter my crumpet ANY TIME. And by 'Butter my crumpet', I mean have really dirty sex. Or as dirty as an English dude can get.

Posted by: Lindsey with an 'e' at December 8, 2009 3:06 PM

*T-Rex arms, not are

Posted by: stardust at December 8, 2009 3:06 PM

I think Love, Actually is great. Yes, it’s heavy on cheese, but in my opinion, it’s very funny, quite clever, and sweet as a motherfucker.

That's pretty damn sweet.

Posted by: mswas at December 8, 2009 3:07 PM

Reign of Fire, best dragon movie ever. EVER.
It will never be topped.
At least not until I write MY dragon movie;
Dragon Whores.
That's right.
It's a porno. With dragons.

Posted by: Nadine at December 8, 2009 3:07 PM

Stardust, i'd suggest drinking every time you want to punch everyone involved in the face, but I dont want to be responsible for your death by alcohol poisoning.
So, how about you drink every time HE is a dick to HER or SHE is needy and totally reliant on HIM for her survival...
Wait...same issue of death through booze....this could be difficult.
If I say drink every time its not TOTAL shit, you'll not get drunk. For every time it in some way sucks or is annoying, you'll die....how about...drink for every...ten minutes that pass? just to be safe?

Posted by: Nadine at December 8, 2009 3:10 PM

"Suffered through" Dragonslayer? Sorry, TK, but you are dead to me now. So is everyone else who thinks Reign of Fire (a movie that I am not ashamed to say I quite enjoyed) is the best dragon movie out there.

Posted by: Todd at December 8, 2009 3:15 PM

Count me among those that are surprised that Love Actually is on a list of movies people might be ashamed of. Not because I love it but because everybody else I know in the world loves it, owns it, watches it 3 times a year, lists it among their favorite movies on social networking sites, constantly goes around singing that Christmasized version of the Troggs song at every opportunity, and tries to get me to rewatch it every year around this time. I can't ever get into movies that flip around among a bunch of different characters, so I got very impatient watching it. But all of my friends find it entrancing, as I'm told again and again and again and again.

Posted by: cree83 at December 8, 2009 3:19 PM

Damn...I was all set to make fun of everybody for their secret shames...but I fucking own four of those movies, and have seen another two. Damn you all.

I'm not saying which ones. STOP ASKING.

P.S. Dragonslayer kicks ass, no two ways about it. And TK's a whore.

Posted by: Shadows of Dakaron at December 8, 2009 3:23 PM

Fuck you for putting Love Actually and Twilight in the same list. I cried when I first saw Love Actually (partly because of what I was going through in life at that time). It was so cute and well made and funny and charming and this scene always totally gets me

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0F_2lwpOT1U

but the movie is a gem from start to finish. I'm not ashamed of loving it, just a little ashamed of how highly I rank it together with other more "serious" and "artistic" movies.

Posted by: barf at December 8, 2009 3:26 PM

MM: I always wanted James Earl Jones to play Masterharper Robinton. Other then that one perfect casting (that won't happen cause it is too perfect) I too have lived in fear of the day they make them into movies. A tv miniseries might work, if they did it right, but they won't. The machine will simply ruin my favorite childhood books as it has already done to many of my friends.

Stardust: You can try what I do when I watch LOTRs, which is drink everyone time one makes a bitch face. You will get so pissed, in both the US and British understanding of the word, it will be fantastic.

Posted by: Morgan LaFai at December 8, 2009 3:28 PM

I saw Love, Actually in the theater with the ex, and God bless him, it was the cutest thing I have ever seen. When Firth was in Brazil, ex actually fist-pumped the air and shouted, "Go get her!"

Too bad he was also a cheater-cheat scumfuck. Oh well, we all have our down sides...

Posted by: Patty O'Green at December 8, 2009 3:31 PM

Why no love for Starship Troopers? It's so gorgeously cheesy on every level!

...And it has NPH! It has a grim hollow-eyed NPH in a thinly-disguised SS uniform! Doesn't that just crack your shit up?!...

*mopes*

Posted by: Jerce at December 8, 2009 3:33 PM

Apart from Love Actually the others I have seen are My Bloody Valentine (saw it in 2D but still awesome). Crank, great fun, Step Up, only the first one, bad. very bad and boring (but dancing really isn't my thing anyway) and Twilight, the first one only. The less said about Twilight the better. It makes me more of a misanthrope.

There's no shame in loving My Bloody Valentine or Crank and I've already explained my love for Love Actually so I'm all good.

Posted by: barf at December 8, 2009 3:33 PM

As for cheery holiday movies, I submit The Holiday, because by most standards it is a worse film than Love, Actually, but is just as bad-movie-AWESOME, especially during the holidays.

Posted by: Patty O'Green at December 8, 2009 3:36 PM

it's funny ! for Xmas,i want "reign of fire" DVD and "crank 1&2" DVDs because i'm tired to rent them(i love their bonus):it's my guilty pleasures

Posted by: carrie at December 8, 2009 3:39 PM

I guess I must have a burnt popcorn kernel for a heart then.
I HATE LOVE ACTUALLY. I hate it with an all-consuming passion. Not even Liam Neeson and Alan Rickman can save it for me.

Posted by: PaddyDog at December 8, 2009 3:44 PM

Bring It On is just the kind of movie I need for a can't get out of bed, giant glass of ice-water, four Advil hangover and I need to rub one out before slipping back into a withdrawal coma...

Posted by: Skitz at December 8, 2009 3:46 PM

@Jerce: Starship Troopers! Heartily seconded. Whadda pile o'crap, yet sooooo entertaining. Plus, Doogie!

@Morgan LaFai: James Earl Jones would be cool. Those were my favorite books when I was a kid. I never gave much thought to casting - more the "can they make the dragons cool?" Nowadays the casting would go like this:

Megan Fox is... Lessa!
Shia LeBoeuf is... F'lar!

*headwoodchipper*

Posted by: MM at December 8, 2009 3:46 PM

OK, I don't classify Twilight as a Secret Shame. A Secret Shame is something you like. Something that (if we're going with the alcohol metaphors) gives you a great buzz that carries you through an evening, and you can either slowly sober up and get on with your life or you can sleep it off and wake up feeling refreshed and cheerful.
I tried to have Twilight as a Secret Shame (yes, I'll admit it). That puppy chewed me up and spit me out into an coma of terrible dreams and waking up in the middle of the night going "where the fuck am I?" In the morning I had the worst movie-hangover ever -- I was groggy all day and throught the world looked too bright.
Bring It On is a Secret Shame. It makes me feel bubbly, like champagne.
Love Actually is a Secret Shame. It makes me feel fuzzy and relaxed, like good beer.
Twilight is not a Secret Shame. It makes me feel *blareugnpgh* like too much Tequila.

Posted by: esme at December 8, 2009 3:49 PM

I think that's the best summary I've ever seen for Crank. That is exactly how I feel about it; the movie is utterly and irredeemably retarded. There is no point to this movie, it's just a bunch of extreme-stunt set-pieces cobbled by a story that has the depth of a pool of stale beer-piss. It is probably one of the stupidest things I've ever seen.

I think the reason I love it so much is the fact that the movie has absolutely no pretenses about what it is. There are a lot of action movies like Crank, but they're try to come off as semi-serious, and grimdark.

But Crank? Crank is completely retarded and it both knows and revels in it. Crank has Jason Statham in a hospital gown standing on a motor cycle with Harry Nilsson's rendition of "Everybody's Talkin'" playing in the background. And his ass is hanging out.

Posted by: chenry at December 8, 2009 3:51 PM

@bonnie: I thought that what made the "fat" jokes about Natalie funny was because she so obviously was not fat. I thought it was more a commentary on how stupidly obsessed with beauty people are.

Posted by: Claire at December 8, 2009 3:52 PM

I've yet to meet someone who has any shame regarding "Bring It On". They've never fucking stopped talking about it.

Yeah, there are downsides to having mostly female friends with a few gay men.

Posted by: Jay at December 8, 2009 3:53 PM

The best part about My Bloody Valentine? The black deputy. Seriously. He is comedic FUCKING gold in every damn scene

Posted by: Annie_Reckson at December 8, 2009 3:56 PM

Beerfest [...] may be the best worst movie of all time.

I'm sorry George, but that answer is incorrect. We were looking for Troll 2. Thanks for playing, though! (Oh, and jerce, Starship Troopers *is* awesome, but it came out in '97.)

Some days, TK is my favorite. Today is one of those days.

I've seen 8.5 of these (I only saw the first Step Up). I own 4 on DVD. I'm not telling which ones. And Nthing the "Love, Actually is not a guilty pleasure"-ness.

Posted by: Anna von Beaverpuppet at December 8, 2009 3:57 PM

stardust: My friends & I did play a drinking game to Twilight this summer.
I think the rules we used were:
-when Bella flips her hair
-when Edward claims that he is dangerous
-when Edward tells Bella to stay away from him, then stalks her anyway
-when Bella stares at Edward longingly
-when clips from Jizzed in My Pants appeared

Between 5 girls, we finished off two gallons of mudslide mix, a bottle of wine & a twelve pack of Coors. Then we watched Push which to this day I have no memory of.
Drinking definitely makes Twilight extremely enjoyable.

Posted by: badkittyuno at December 8, 2009 4:00 PM

T.K. I have to second your love for "Love Actually." I watch that sucker every Christmas. As for the character of Natalie? In my neck of the woods she would definitely not be considered fat. Deliciously thick, but not fat. Of course that could be a cultural thing, I'm just sayin'.

Posted by: TheBlackMenace at December 8, 2009 4:00 PM

I hate to belabor this point (I clearly don't) but you should not feel "guilty" about enjoying something. You should always feel proud to like the movies that you like, the music that you like, the food that you like. What does it matter if the movie has a horrible script if you like it? What does it matter that the acting is aweful if there is some kind of chemistry that clicks with you? What does it matter if the box-office receipts sucked, the critics hated it and your buddies mercilessly mock you for your love ot it?

None of that matters. "Guilty Pleasure" is a term that should be stricken from your vocabularies.

Prosecution rests.

Posted by: superasente at December 8, 2009 4:03 PM

I am a straight man with two sons and I love Love Actually. I heart the Colin Firth storyline the best. His bastard of a brother and tarted up old lady get it on, and our fearless writer needs to flea the scenery and abandon his emotions at the city limits. And the adorable Portugese house help is there to help him through the romantic wasteland that his failed marriage has left his life in. Yes folks, love can conquer language barriers. At least on Christmas. And you might not be able to communicate, but you can always fuck. The end.

Posted by: John Denver's Wingman at December 8, 2009 4:11 PM

MM: I don't know why but I always cast my favorite books. I think it helps me better visualize them. Pern was the first book I ever cast, way back in the 80's so the people I choose wouldn't really work any more. Actually, after the remake of The Parent Trap I thought Lindsay Lohan would make a good Melody. The thought actually hurts my brain now, but back in the early 90's it made perfect sense.

Posted by: Morgan LaFai at December 8, 2009 4:12 PM

Also, I would like to third the love of Starship Troopers. I hated the movie when it first came out, cause it was such a painful bastardization of the book, but then I decided to give it a different name. I now call the movie I'm a Gonna Kill Me a Shit Ton a Bugs. It is a rather long tittle but I don't care. It makes the movie so much more awesome.

Posted by: Morgan LaFai at December 8, 2009 4:15 PM

yep, reign of fire is the best dragon movie ever, plus it start CHRISTIAN BALE. back in 1998 i was fantasy casting that guy in sci-fi action adventures i was pitching in my college production class. i called it. you're welcome.

Posted by: janellest at December 8, 2009 4:20 PM

stars, not start.

Posted by: janellest at December 8, 2009 4:21 PM

It takes a very particular breed of nerd to read this list and be compelled to comment on nothing other than the fact that Dragonslayer trumps the hell out of Reign Of Fire. And, yes, I am just such a nerd.

Further defining exactly the type of nerd that I am, I can't leave this topic without expressing my fervent desire to one day see Dragonlance be made into quality live-action films. Those would take the title of best dragon movies if done right.

Posted by: DarthCorleone at December 8, 2009 4:33 PM

And now having scanned back up the thread, I see that there are at least a couple other nerds here from my same breed.

Posted by: DarthCorleone at December 8, 2009 4:35 PM

Am I the only one who reaches for Man of the House (Tommy Lee Jones, not Macauley Culkin) when I am feeling hungover and pathetic? Every time TLJ squnches up his forhead and says "This iiiiiiiiiss mah happy faaaaaaaace" I laugh until I can't breathe. That and Out Cold are my total sick-a-bed go-tos.

Posted by: Siege at December 8, 2009 4:40 PM

Oh, the scene from Love Actually when Colin Firth proposes to Aurelia in the restaurant makes me cry every single time I watch it. I adore that movie. Who doesn't? Dustin? Brother, you need to bake yourself a batch of Snickerdoodles and watch it again. You'll come around, eventually.

Posted by: Kolby at December 8, 2009 4:42 PM

I just have to jump on board and say no one should be ashamed of Love, Actually. The little boy's reaction during the "All I Want For Christmas is You" sequence ALONE is worth the price of admission. And Bill Nighy!

And of course, Emma Thompson is wonderful.

Posted by: AES at December 8, 2009 4:44 PM

Of course that could be a cultural thing, I'm just sayin'.

Hungarian?

Posted by: Jay at December 8, 2009 4:50 PM

I would substitute Love Actually with The Holiday. I hate the latter, but I end up watching it because Kate Winslet is just so damn cute in it, and I wanted her to kick her ex bf in the balls.

Love Actually is cheesy, but great for the most part. I think it could have done well without a couple of the stories (Keira Knightley's & Laura Linney's) but otherwise, I don't consider it a guilty pleasure. Still a good movie.

Posted by: Brie at December 8, 2009 4:50 PM

"Reign of Fire is possibly the best dragon movie ever made."

No, it's the best dragon movie POSTER ever made.

Posted by: elzupasmonkey at December 8, 2009 4:55 PM

I've seen 3 of those movies -- Love Actually, Reign of Fire and Crank. The rest you can keep.

Defintely will stand behind Starship Troopers, which has bugfuck-all to do with the book, but it's the adult version of the kid with the magnifying glass cooking ants. Only if that kid was Reichstaff leader, NPH.

BTW, all the Love, Actually love and I'm going to be the one to point out that the best scene in that movie occurs between Alan Rickman and Rowan Atkinson? The "Gift Wrapping" scene is awesomeness and I just love the stares Rickman gives Atkinson as if to say "Listen Mr. Bean, I've shot people in the head before. So on the count of 3, you're backing up away with the candy and the tinsel or I will kill you. 1...2...."

Posted by: Fredo at December 8, 2009 5:04 PM

The Hobbit has the potential to be the best dragon movie ever. Even if Smaug only has an extended cameo he is the baddest mother in all Middle Earth. He's no pansy-ass all seeing eye tied to a cheap piece of Kay jewelry, he's a mountain of destruction armored in a king's ransom of jewels embossed into his damn chest. You don't spit into the wind, you don't pull on Superman's cape, and you don't mess around with Smaug.

Posted by: mrcreosote at December 8, 2009 5:04 PM

John Denver's Wingman:

Seriously, stop making me love you.

Posted by: Lindsey with an 'e' at December 8, 2009 5:05 PM

"..you can’t turn away. There’s nothing you want more than to get up and walk out, but you’re drawn in — like a moth to an industrial-sized fan — stuck wriggling helplessly in your seat, knowing that your body is slowly being dissected by a crushing tedium. "

That soooo sums up twilight. I wanted to escape but I could not, and there were no payoffs. Just withdrawal.

Perfect Dustin!

Posted by: Gigi at December 8, 2009 5:08 PM

I feel like I should watch Love, Actually again, because I thought it was shit. I was so bored watching that film, and it had everything I usually love, AND it was Richard Curtis. No brainer right? But something was missing.

Posted by: Carrie at December 8, 2009 5:14 PM

LindsEy, I'm gonna drive my ass to P-town and pull a fucking Cusack (with the boom box) in the middle of Burnside (by the bridge where they sell all the heroin). Except you know goddamn good and well what'll be coming out of my speakers (that sounded super naughty). Then we'll see.

Posted by: John Denver's Wingman at December 8, 2009 5:29 PM

I'm not sure if those review excerpts were well-chosen. Some of them sound like the reviewer just outright hated the film, without any of the "pleasure" associated with a guilty pleasure. Twilight and Dragon Wars, specifically.

Posted by: Daniel Hall at December 8, 2009 5:29 PM

No guilty pleasure for "Wild Things"? For shame! (and subsequent pleasure)

Posted by: welldressed at December 8, 2009 5:35 PM

Thanks, badkittyuno! That's a good one. I think my husband and I will do that, with the addition of Morgan LaFai's rule to drink every time someone makes a bitchface. That one seems like hella fun.

Posted by: stardust at December 8, 2009 5:44 PM

I've only ever walked out on 2 movies, and "Love, Actually" was one of them. The saddest part of my day today was seeing how many of you actually like -- nay, LOVE -- that awful, poorly written, abominably acted (other than Thompson -- I'll grant you that her crying scene is wonderful) piece of shite. SHITE! If you AREN'T ashamed of loving this movie, then you should be.

Posted by: jimbob at December 8, 2009 5:46 PM

Love Actually, Bring It On and Drumline fill me with such stupid joy it's hard to be ashamed of it.

I confess I saw My Bloody Valentine 3D out of pure Jensen Ackles love. I have seen a great many bad movies for love over the years and I've learned to adjust my expectations accordingly and just enjoy the pretty.

Reign of Fire is a completely absurd movie. They've lost Star Wars but still have coffee? My suspension of disbelief crumbled there.

Posted by: minorblue at December 8, 2009 5:48 PM

I LOVE BRING IT ON!!! It's the dancing! And Sparky "Cheerleaders are Just Dancers Who Have Gone Retarted" Polastri.

And I love Step Up 2 the Streets (that's right, suckas, call it by its REAL title) with no hint of irony or self-deprecation. Last dance battle! In the rain!!! SO OSSOM!!! The dialogue was awful, but I don't remember it because I always fast-forward through dialogue in these movies anyway.

I bought Drumline! Just for the last five minutes!! I used to say of this movie: "Only black people could take the lamest thing in high school (marching band geeks) and turn it into the coolest thing in college."

Think that's racist? You bet it is. And why am I racist?

Because my parents were born in the North, but raised in the South! I'M KOREAN, SUCKAS!!!!! 대한민국!!!

Peace out. Or, as my people would say: 평화.

Posted by: Jelinas at December 8, 2009 5:52 PM

Also:

Captaining this ship of fools is David Spade, one of the worst things to happen to late night television since Magic Johnson immuno-deficiented his way from cable access.

I love you so much it makes me cry, Prisco.

Posted by: Jelinas at December 8, 2009 5:58 PM

I will never stop loving "Love, Actually." I like to watch it with the commentary on and listen to Bill Nighy and Hugh Grant rag on Colin Firth. I was even thinking of telling my family that they could reenact the "All You Need is Love" wedding scene at my upcoming nuptials in lieu of wedding gifts, but a)I'm greedy and want gifts and b) no one in my family can sing or play instruments anyway.

Posted by: MelBivDevoe at December 8, 2009 6:07 PM

This site brings me unbounded joy. From the snark, to the Greek chorus of lovable curmudgeon commenters, to getting your shit seized by the man, you just never stop delighting me.

I love Bring It On. Topped off with Center Stage, Stick It and Drop Dead Gorgeous. It's a combo not unlike a banana split of Easy Cheese, Pop Tarts, Sno-Balls and the nitrous in the bottom of the whipped cream can.

Posted by: chamalla at December 8, 2009 6:24 PM

*winces* Ooooooooh! Center Stage? That is some SERIOUSLY guilty pleasure.
...Not that I've seen it.
...Because I totally haven't.

Posted by: welldressed at December 8, 2009 6:51 PM

Love, Actually is hilarious. No (well, a lil) shame in enjoying that. Parts of Bring It On kill me, and Crank is mind-blowing as well.

Posted by: Mick J at December 8, 2009 7:02 PM

Bring It On - Amazeballs. If only for the insane cheerleading coach and his "Cheerleaders are dancers......gone retarded". Makes me laugh every time.
And Love Actually, love it. So cheesy but so perfect in its way. Bill Nighy is funny and awesome as Bill Nighy always is, Hugh Grant was charming in a way that meant I didn't want to kill him (as I usually do), Martine McCutcheon was pretty cute, the scene with the giant cards is freakin lovely, Liam Neeson's kid is adorable, Laura Linney needs no explanation and as everyone has already mentioned, *that* scene with Emma Thompson. Fucking amazing. When this film is mentioned by anyone I know who has ever seen it (and there are plenty who clearly aren't too ashamed to admit it :P)that scene is the one everyone remembers most. Only Emma Thompson could convey that much heartbreak without uttering a single word. And Joni's world weary version of Both Sides, Now is the background? Tears. Just. Tears.

Posted by: sheepeyes at December 8, 2009 7:15 PM

Nicole that scene in Love Actually is my heart's desire as well.

So is it still called secret shames if you revel in it, cater to it and love it?

Becuase I do, I'll friggin say it without shame that Bring it on, Twilight, Love Actually, Step Up and some other movies that will make you cringe for me are ones that makes my heart leap.

Posted by: Jean at December 8, 2009 7:25 PM

I also would not consider the majority of those movies secret shames. Of the ones I've seen, I'd only qualify Joe Dirt as a secret shame. Comedy Central runs it about 1000 times a year and whenever I come across it, 10 minutes to 2 hours later I find myself saying "WHAT am I DOING?!" Half the time I can't find anything else to watch and I come back to it, full of shame and giggles.

I fully, and without shame, enjoyed Love Actually, Crank, Bring It On, and My Bloody Valentine. However I'll admit that it comforts me to know so many 'jibans share this love for these specific movies.

Posted by: gee. ay. at December 8, 2009 7:59 PM

As a "deliciously thick" woman myself (TheBlackMenace...call me!) I totally loved Love, Actually, because, even though the "fat" girl was clearly not fat (that was the point), she was not a stick-insect, and still, she managed to land the hot Prime Minister and get the attention of Mr. President of the US of A himself. So, yes, this movie fills me with Christmas Joy every year, as I drink yet another glass of eggnog and unwrap yet another pork tamal.

Posted by: Cuca at December 8, 2009 8:54 PM

Bedazzled.

Hackneyed predictable fluff. I know, but I still enjoy this film immensely. I can't explain it, but I love it. Plus Brendan Frasier makes me tingly in my naughty bits.

I'd also like to add Take the Lead (which I totally confused with Step Up) It was fun and lighthearted, and it had motherfucking Rufio, so it beats Step Up in the dance movie hierarchy. Because NOTHING beats motherfucking Rufio.

Posted by: ZoBla at December 8, 2009 10:57 PM

1. Seven out of ten. Seven out of ten. I love me some bad movies.

2. My ex wrote a philosophy paper on how Joe Dirt is Voltaire's Candide. Wrap your brain around that.

3. stardust, if your still here, we can totally meet up and play the Twilight drinking game.

Posted by: Blonde Savant at December 8, 2009 11:09 PM

Fuck. You're.

Posted by: Blonde Savant at December 8, 2009 11:10 PM

ZoBia, we are now bestest friends. RUFIO!!

Posted by: Patty O'Green at December 8, 2009 11:53 PM

WTF! Why the hell is Love Actually even on this list!?!?! There is no shame in that movie, only goodness and light. Fuck any Nazi that doesn't like it.

BananaPanda: the Emma Thompson scene IS one of the most poignant scenes in the last 20 years. I said the same a while back, can't remember which thread. Her pulling herself together to take the kids to the Christmas play, sniff, girl power, that scene is amazing.

Fuck the haters, this movie is good.

Posted by: Mebe at December 9, 2009 12:59 AM

RU-FI-OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOh!

BTW, I enjoy reading how other people play drinking games. Has there been a drinking game comment diversion? Cause that's the sort of thing I'd like to read... and make another drinking game to.

Posted by: ZoBla at December 9, 2009 1:27 AM

@John Denver's Wingman at December 8, 2009 5:29 PM

I shall swoon sir. For my love for you is superseded only by my love for Lloyd Dobbler.
And Burnside is much better now. A MUCH higher class of hookers and blow.

Posted by: Lindsey with an 'e' at December 9, 2009 1:54 AM

Just Friends.

I cannot deny that movie.

Posted by: adam at December 9, 2009 3:11 AM

RUFIO!!

I love all dance/cheerleading/gymnastic movies, no matter how retarded they are.
I don't know anyone who would mock me for having Bring It On on DVD, but they probably would if they found out I also have Bring It On 2 & 3...
It's not my fault! It was a double DVD! AND on offer! IT'S NOT MY FAULT!!!
*retreats screaming and crying into shamehole*

Posted by: Squeeziee at December 9, 2009 6:19 AM

For any of you that love the Drumline showdown sequence, I have to wonder, have you ever actually played the drums? Or does any drummer out there love the movie Drumline for it's musical performances?
I haven't played on a line for awhile but I'd still consider myself a drummer and I find myself oddly attracted to watching Drumline if only to scream and bitch about how horribly bad it is. Not badass. Just bad. All stick tricks and no chops. As far as showmanship, it was entertaining but not badass drumming. For that, you need to go to a DCI show.
At least I appreciated how they attempted to show how much work it is, how nearly militaristic drumlines are, even if they didn't come close to the truth.
/my bitchy two cents

Posted by: AbbyNormal at December 9, 2009 6:28 AM

Mr. dammit MADE me sit thru Joe Dirt...and you know what? Watching Kid Rock get his ass handed to him, and the pure Joy of Jaime Pressley made it all worthwhile.

As for Crank, Reign of Fire, and the latest movie to be added to my every-year-required-Christmas-watching-list, Love Actually, sir, if these are not fine cinematic experiences, I will eat a garage mechanic's shirt.

Statham--hot and WOUND UP!! McConahooey, Bale AND Butler--joyous English/Welsh/redneck glee. And, I challenge you to find a better washed-up rock star, or a better example of a NORMAL woman in the working world (thighs like tree trunks???), OR a reason for your fear of eels than those in Love Actually.

HERE COMES COLIN FRIZZEL....AND HE'S GOT A BIG KNOB!!!!!!

Posted by: dammitjanet at December 9, 2009 8:39 AM

Ooooooooh! Center Stage? That is some SERIOUSLY guilty pleasure.

welldressed, you keep your damn head up. There is NO reason to feel about liking Center Stage. Few things in the world give me as much joy and stating that, "I am the best goddamn dancer in the American Ballet Academy. Who the hell are you? Nobody."

Posted by: jM at December 9, 2009 9:37 AM

Okay...

My secret shame is...

...

Xanadu.

Fuck you, haters.

Posted by: Green Lantern at December 9, 2009 10:19 AM

Green Lantern, NO ONE should question your love for anything that involves Gene Kelly.

Posted by: dammitjanet at December 9, 2009 10:28 AM

Blonde Savant, totally.

Posted by: stardust at December 9, 2009 10:30 AM

I've seen "Reign of Fire" once, and it is one of the few movies that has more eye candy for chicks than guys and could still be considered a "guy movie." That's the only reason I watched, seriously. Bale, Matt M. in full-on, shithouse-rat-crazy mode, and Butler (who died too soon in the flick, if I recall). Other than that, it's ridiculous. There is indeed a lot of fire, so there's that, too.

I have no shame over "Bring It On." It's highly enjoyable. And I was never a cheerleader, so no bias here. It's just a fun movie. Also, I like "Love, Actually." Sentimental in the extreme, but hey, what's wrong with that every now and then?

Posted by: Slash at December 9, 2009 10:52 AM

I would just like to add on to the Rufio love. He is to welldressed what Ryan Reynolds is to Dustin.

Posted by: welldressed at December 9, 2009 1:02 PM

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Posted by: branty at December 9, 2009 1:07 PM

Love Actually was massively crap, and kind of sexist.

Posted by: Steph at December 9, 2009 3:36 PM

I own Joe Dirt. There I said it. As far as stupid redneck movies go it's a hundred times better than Talladega Nights. And it cracks my shit up. "I'm yer sister. I'm yer sister. I'm yer sister."

Posted by: taylor at December 9, 2009 4:57 PM

Love, Actually is awesome. Suck on that.

I saw Joe Dirt with my father in theaters. It was one of the best bonding experiences we ever had.

We both agreed it was one of the worst movies we'd ever seen.

Posted by: ChristianH at December 10, 2009 1:31 AM





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