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The Best So-Bad-Its-Good Movie Directors

By Dustin Rowles & TK | Posted Under Seriously Random Lists | Comments (33)



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Statistically speaking, it’s far more difficult to make a successful good bad movie than it is to make a conventionally good movie. Landing one is usually a matter of luck — sometimes, it’s intentional, and other times, it’s the confluence of so many things going wrong that the film turns the corner into sublime.

But how do you select a good bad-film director? Do you seek out incompetence? Or do you try to find someone with a track record for good bad films and hope that they can do it again, either intentionally or not. Can that director mix the proper ingredients of good, bad, and dumb together to come up with the perfect balance of awesolegendtardary?

Our suggestion? Hire one of these guys. Whether they mean to do it or not, the proof is in the awesome terribleness. Or the terrible awesomeness.

Patrick Lussier: There’s no telling whether Patrick Lussier true intent is to make a seriously fun bad film or a bad film that just ends up being fun. He’s three for three, though, with My Bloody Valentine 3D, Drive Angry 3D and Dracula 2000. I’m fairly certain that Dracula 2000 was unintentional, but when you combine maybe the worst Dracula in the history of film, Gerard Butler, with Christopher Plummer’s Van Helsing, the hilariously bad Jonny Lee Miller, and the unfortunately miscast Omar Epps and Danny Masterson along with the idea setting him in the computer age, what you get is Dracula 2000, a film that actually gets better-worse as it ages and the technology of 11 years ago grows more and more dated. My Bloody Valentine 3D, meanwhile, was the perfect bad movie, one that disguised its intentions so well that it was hard to tell if Lussier was just bad or really good at being bad. — DR

Neveldine & Taylor: I don’t know about the intentions of these guys. They perfected the art with Crank and Crank 2; it was like they were playing a game of “Let’s see how preposterous we can make this and still get away with it” and they completely succeeded in both efforts. I haven’t seen Gamer, but Steven’s review hinted toward it’s good-bad possibilities, as he wrote: “It’s a film actually made worse by how good it is.” This paragraph sold me on seeking it out, however:

Michael C. Hall revels in the role of Ken Castle, playing a cross between Dexter, Bill Gates, and the dancing demon from the Buffy musical. Seriously. He is so nucking futs that he uses his mind control technology to do a choreographed song and dance of Sinatra’s “I’ve Got You Under My Skin” with a dozen death row inmates.

But of course, they’re also responsible for writing Jonah Hex, a movie plagued by problems, namely the studio’s insistence upon changing much of the script, and given how bad it ended up, one wonders whether the studio and the director excised it’s good-bad qualities and left only the bad-bad ones, as accounts suggest that the original vision for the film hit the outlandish good-bad mark. — DR

Don Coscarelli: Now here’s a pickle: Coscarelli has one legitimately, unironically awesome movie on his resume: Bubba Ho-Tep. But once you delve beyond those, that’s when the so-bad-it’s-good glory begins. Because Coscarelli wrote and directed the fucking gold standard, the pinnacle, the goddamn cheese apex… The Beastmaster. Screw Dustin and his incendiary lists. But that’s not all. Coscarellyi also directed a classic of the past generation of horror — Phantasm, which made tall, pale white dudes creep me the fuck out for the rest of my life. — TK

Renny Harlin: Harlin is an absolute crap director, with a resume that’s got more shit on it than a fecophile’s buffet plate. But he’s also got a glorious mix of sublimely fun stuff — The Long Kiss Goodnight, Die Hard 2, Cliffhanger, and of course, Deep Blue Sea. Now, we can debate whether or not The Long Kiss Goodnight is bad, but the rest are pure garbage. Pure, wonderful trash. Deep Blue Sea is of course a favorite of the site, and it fucking should be. Super intelligent sharks that can open doors and swim backwards and who hate video cameras. LL Cool J waxing philosophical. Stellan Skaaaarrrrsssgradeerad. Sharks throwing helicopters! A SHARK THROWS A HELICOPTER. Need I say more? Cliffhanger is classic smart-Stallone, meaning it’s Stallone trying to break out of his Rambo mode, and failing. Beautifully. And Die Hard 2 had William Sadler and John Amos, with bonus Sipowicz for good measure. — TK

Stephen Sommers & Rob Cohen: Alone, both of these directors sit firmly in the bad-bad category, but if you combine their filmographies and approach their movies with the right spirit, there’s certainly some good-bad magic available. They’re idiot cousins, and while we view most of their efforts as spectacular failures, once you recognize that, there is some awesome-terrible entertainment to be found in movies like The Mummy, The Mummy Returns, Deep Rising, Van Helsing, Sylvester Stallone’s awesomely shittacular Daylight, one of my favorite good-bad movies of all time, The Skulls, the homoerotic Fast and the Furious and, of course, G.I. Joe: The Rise of Cobra, a movie far more entertaining than it’s summer competitor, Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen, if only because it was so blow-your-brains-out dumb. —DR









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Comments

Harlin is an absolute crap director, with a resume that’s got more shit on it than a fecophile’s buffet plate.

Renny, Renny, Renny... we'll always have "I'm going to make you my WEE-YOTCH".

Posted by: branded at March 10, 2011 2:59 PM

Roger Corman or get the fuck out.

Posted by: superasente at March 10, 2011 3:02 PM

You seem to be implying that the Crank movies are somehow, bad. I hate to be "that guy" but you are WAY off, fellas.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at March 10, 2011 3:05 PM

I'm an unabashed fan of The Long Kiss Goodnight, but even I acknowledge that it's a terrible movie carried in part on the interplay between Sam Jackson and Geena Davis, but mostly floats on Jackson's charisma. The villains are abysmal (you suck, Timothy), the plot is risible and I'm not sure I can accept Geena Davis as a super-spy. Though, and I'm sure this was unintentional, I do like that G.D. Spradlin played both the corrupt senator from Godfather II and the president here.

Posted by: Tracer Bullet at March 10, 2011 3:12 PM

I just saw Drive Angry last night, and holy balls was it retarded, and AMAZING. (Loved it.)

Nicholas Cage, meh, but William Fitchner, Amber Heard, and the guy who played the cult leader were all awesome. Plus, there was a fucking-while-shooting move à la Shoot 'Em Up.

Plus, if Lussier's earlier movies appeared to contain confusion as to whether they were intended to be good or bad, Drive Angry was CLEARLY intended to be awesome-bad, and it succeeded.

Posted by: MM at March 10, 2011 3:13 PM

I always enjoy the hell out of Ed Wood's movies. I MST3K at the screen (yeah, I made a verb out of it) with wild abandon. My favorite so far is "Glen or Glenda."

"Beware! Beware of the big green dragon that sits on your doorstep. He eats little boys... Puppy dog tails, and BIG FAT SNAILS... Beware... Take care... Beware! . . . PULL THE STRING! PULL THE STRING!"

Posted by: BWeaves at March 10, 2011 3:14 PM

Every time I watch Deep Blue Sea, I remember TK's glee over the shark throwing a helicopter and I cackle. Every. Time.

Posted by: Julie at March 10, 2011 3:14 PM

Also, Cliffhanger may have had "smart aka terrible" Stallone, but it also had Michael Rooker and John Lithgow. Done and DONE.

Posted by: MM at March 10, 2011 3:18 PM

This list is awfully short of Louis Leterrier (The Transporter, Unleashed) and Paul WS Anderson (Death Race, Resident Evil, Event Horizon).

Posted by: Fredo at March 10, 2011 3:26 PM

I'll agree to all of this except the last grouping. The Mummy maybe but Van Helsing, GI Joe and especially Fast and Furious are beyond bad bad.

Posted by: Paultera at March 10, 2011 3:30 PM

Uh... Don Coscarelli did NOT direct Tombstone. George Cosmatos did.

(you are correct. fixed. -TK)

Posted by: dev at March 10, 2011 3:51 PM

Imma second Tracer Bullet's comment confirming the awesome badness that is The Long Kiss Goodnight. It is completely full of cheesey dialogue and makes my heart happy.

Geena Davis, after quickly chopping up many veggies, suddenly throws a tomato into the air, spears it to the wall with a knife and says, "Chefs do that."

Samuel L. Jackson: You might need my help.
Geena Davis: I got myself out of Beruit, I think I can get out of New Jersey.
Samuel L. Jackson: Yeah? Well, don't be so sure. Others have tried and failed. The entire population, in fact.


Yes to all of this.

Posted by: noodlestein at March 10, 2011 3:51 PM

No one involved in Van Helsing should be called Best anything, except maybe Best Fucking Film Holocaust Since Battlefield Earth. Even that sounds too nice, though.

Posted by: ChristianH at March 10, 2011 3:58 PM

Lussier - I haven't seen any of his movies, yet, because until Drive Angry 3D, none of them seemed to be my cuppa.

Neveldine/Taylor - Clearly, they get it.

Coscarelli - Totally gets it; needs bigger budgets.

Harlin - Doesn't get it, but still has some bright spots.

Sommers and Cohen - I'm pretty sure Oxford's English Dictionary has one of their portraits next to the word "incompetent" in their 2002 edition. The other was in Webster's.

Posted by: RobP at March 10, 2011 4:01 PM

And Lussier will be directing the Hellraiser remake.

*sigh*

Posted by: Case at March 10, 2011 4:12 PM

Wasn't Renny Harlin also responsible for some movie with Geena Davis and Matthew Modine (maybe?) as pirates? I feel like I saw that and it was delightfully stupid.

Mr. Siege and I often debate the difference between "good" and "fun" movies. Some good movies are fun, but most fun movies are not good. It takes a certain kind of person to appreciate Con Air or The Mummy (btw--Mummy 3 was fucking terrible, and I say that as a person who loved the first two.)

Van Helsing is the most un-fun terrible movie I have ever seen in my life.

Posted by: Siege at March 10, 2011 4:13 PM

What, no James Nguyen? No Tommy Wiseau?

Posted by: Nergol at March 10, 2011 4:21 PM

The Long Kiss Goodnight is one of my favourite movies! And yes, it is actually a shitty action flick but it is so charming at times it is still good-bad! I agree!

Posted by: Thomas at March 10, 2011 4:21 PM

Oh, I frickin' LOVE The Skulls. I will never, ever apologize for that one. It's horrible, stupid, and completely brilliant.

My hat is a shark's fin, yo.

Posted by: Melody at March 10, 2011 4:32 PM

"Deep Rising" is a classic B level monster movie and I think Sommers wanted it that way. Cheesy, over the top, and a perfect 'put your brain in neutral and enjoy the ride' time waster.

And it has Treat Williams classic "Now what?" line everytime sh*t starts happening.

Posted by: tps at March 10, 2011 4:42 PM

Haha oh man I never get tired of Van Helsing. So awesomely cheesy.

Posted by: camytaru at March 10, 2011 4:46 PM

You keep making references to not knowing the director's intention. I would argue that the only way for a movie to truly be "fun bad" is for the director to have taken it completely seriously and failed on epic levels. That's why "The Room" rules so hard; there was absolutely no intention of humor. Bad-on-purpose movies are always just that: bad. To reach the ascendant heights of Troll 2, you have to truly have a vision and have absolutely no ability to reach that vision.

Posted by: dan at March 10, 2011 5:06 PM

Gamer is probably neck-and-neck with the first Crank in terms of crazy-silly-bad-good quality. I tend to think of it more as unabashed, unapologetic silliness, which really describe most of Statham's films now that I think of it. It was a great idea, slathered in childish, perverted execution, and coupled with Butler's testosterone rampage and Hall's awesome flavor of crazy. It's on Netflix Instant and really worth a viewing, preferably with some drunk friends.

Posted by: Markus at March 10, 2011 5:19 PM

i love Crank's guys:they're genius of "crazy bad ass awful guilty pleasure movies"

Posted by: caro at March 10, 2011 5:26 PM

Deep Blue Sea also has Homeless Dad in it. "I just want my kids back!"

Posted by: ivn at March 10, 2011 5:38 PM

How in the world can you NOT include Ed Wood? The godfather of crap movies. Plan 9 from outer space will always be at the top of my "so bad it's funny" list!

Posted by: Uncle JR at March 10, 2011 6:42 PM

I have seen every movie mentioned. Most multiple times. I saw Deep Blue Sea with an old GF, who got high during the whole movie(I do not partake). She wanted to watch it again immediately after it was over. And sent me to Taco Bell

Posted by: Sean at March 11, 2011 12:07 AM

Siege, you're thinking of Cutthroat Island.

No one involved in Van Helsing should be called Best anything, except maybe Best Fucking Film Holocaust Since Battlefield Earth. Even that sounds too nice, though.

I'd say that sums it up quite nicely.

Posted by: Uda at March 11, 2011 1:18 AM

Agree that Ed Wood should totes be on the list. Isn't the guy legendarily known for being the father/inventor of the so-bad-is-good industry and epic failure-turned-into-success for all the wrong reasons movies ?

Nevertheless I liked the list, in spite of the involvement of some directors/movies that were never meant to be taken seriously. They were supposed to be tongue-in-cheek

Posted by: tities at March 11, 2011 4:51 AM

What about Tobe Hooper?

Posted by: Distressed Oscelot at March 11, 2011 5:25 AM

I remember I used to mix up Deep Rising and Deep Star Six. Both are craptacular, but I'll take Famke Janssen over exploding bends guy anytime.

In defense of Die Hard 2, I challenge anyone who figured out the red and blue ammo before the twist. Also, at least they showed Sadler's ass instead of Sipowicz's.

Posted by: Big Softie at March 11, 2011 9:58 AM

How about early Tony Scott's The Last Boy Scout?
I love that movie; the intro song's better than NBC's lame SNF theme.

Posted by: Big Softie at March 11, 2011 10:09 AM

I nominate Timur Bekmambetov. "Night Watch" and "Day Watch" were awesomely terrible Russian Matrix knockoffs, and "Wanted" was perhaps my favorite SBIG Movie for the last few years. Plus, his next film is "Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter."

Posted by: Crut at March 21, 2011 2:45 AM