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The 25 Most Conservative Films

And You Thought My Seriously Random Lists Were Absurd / Dustin Rowles

Seriously Random Lists | February 25, 2009 | Comments (73)


If you haven’t seen it yet, the conservative magazine The National Review, apparently desperate to save the magazine in the face of a dying print media and a conservative backlash, has resorted to writing about one if its least favorite topics: Hollywood. Home of commies and queers! That’s right, David Frum: Welcome to the New World Order. The liberals have taken over, and we’re going to fuck you all in the ass and you’re going to have to have our butt babies in a government owned hospital. And we’re going to make you pay higher taxes for the privilege!

Where was I? Ah: Yes. The National Review, in its infinite wisdom, has named the 25 Most Conservative Films of All Time. The complete list is below, although you can go on over to The National Review to get their take on why these movies deserved their position. Mostly, they just hijacked good movies and tainted them by ascribing a conservative message. Bleee-uch.

25. Gran Torino: Well, it’s kind of racist, so I’ll give that one to them.

24. Team America: World Police: Don’t you love it when Conservatives don’t even realize a movie is mocking them?

23. United 93: Fuck you. Way to take a national tragedy and politicize it. I didn’t realize that only conservative people went down in that flight.

22. Brazil: It was actually Terry Gilliam’s idea to start ass-raping conservatives.

21. Heartbreak Ridge: Yes. You can have Eastwood.

20. Gattaca: Wait, I forget. Which administration was responsible for tapping our phone lines?

19. We Were Soldiers: Mel Gibson? You can have him, too.

18. The Edge: Because only conservatives can fight bears? I figure a conservative would just shoot it, right?

17. The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe: You can have this one, too, nevermind that most of the religious stuff was stripped from the movie.

16. Master and Commander: It’s a bit of a stretch, but you can have this one, too.

15. Red Dawn: Does this mean that all Cold War movies are conservative?

14. A Simple Plan: Because only conservatives understand morality?

13. Braveheart: Mel Gibson again? He’s all yours.

12. The Dark Knight: Yeah — they’re once again trying to compare the bravery of Batman to George Bush. Uh huh. You keep banging that gong, G.O.P.

11. The Lord of the Rings: 100 percent agreed! I knew there was another reason I didn’t like LoTR.

10. Ghostbusters: I don’t really even understand why this is on the list.

9. Blast from the Past: Hahahaha. O-kaaay.

8. Juno: Diablo Cody — a former stripper — must feel so proud to belong on this list. You know why Juno didn’t get the abortion? Because it would’ve been a 20 minute film, otherwise.

7. The Pursuit of Happyness: Divorced, single black parent forced to live in a homeless shelter for a period of time. Chris Gardner is, of course, the poster boy for the conservative movement.

6. Groundhog Day: Here’s what TNR had to say: “For the conservative, the moral of the tale is that redemption and meaning are derived not from indulging your ‘authentic’ instincts and drives, but from striving to live up to external and timeless ideals.” Clearly, TK simply forgot to include that in his review.

5. 300: The good guys are white, the bad guys are brown. That’s the conservative way, folks.

4. Forrest Gump: He was too dumb to know any better.

3. Metropolitan: I’d love to see what The Boozehound has to say about this.

2. The Incredibles: Ayn Rand. Self Determinism. French people are bad. I’ll give this one to them.

1. The Lives of Others: It’s an odd choice for number one, but it’s an anti-communist film, and I suppose the right thinks it owns the moral high ground when it comes to communism.


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Comments

Team America? Brazil?

Boy, those conservatives get the best weed.

Posted by: Anna von Beaverplatz at February 25, 2009 4:33 PM

Ahhhh, keep em. Most of them suck anyways. Though Red Dawn was pure Reagan propaganda, it was still camptastically awful/ awesome.

Wolveriiiines!

Posted by: Porkchop at February 25, 2009 4:40 PM

So it would be more accurate to say that they took some movies and (in most cases) falsely "found" a conservative message.

I wonder what they found in Team America? Oh right: down with the dirka dirka, Muhammad Jihad. And also, if you're going to pile drive a puppet, make sure you shit on it first.

Twatwaffles.

Posted by: admin at February 25, 2009 4:44 PM

Ghostbusters

Its really about strong heterosexual men fighting the evils of Satan, which, of course, are manifested through a woman (Eve) and a nerd (ELITE!! ELITE! He's smart, he's part of the elite!)

The evil is brought to the world through extramarital sex and released through the machinations of a government official (Big government is bad).

Posted by: MissSmilla at February 25, 2009 4:48 PM

Remember the old days, not so very long ago, when it was only the left loonies applying their shithouse-rat craziness to completely unrelated stuff? Like that essay that went all Dworkin on Firefly and called Joss Whedon a rapist? Yeah, I don't miss those days either. This kinda shit is much more fun.

Posted by: Jerce at February 25, 2009 4:56 PM

Didn't Brokeback Mountain 2: The Larry Craig Biopic make it on this list? It musta been #26.

Posted by: branded at February 25, 2009 4:58 PM

I can understand how most of these films represent or can be twisted to represent a sort of Conservative ideology, but here's the rationale for Brazil:

"Terrorist bombings, national-security scares, universal police surveillance, bureaucratic arrogance, a callous elite, perversion of science, and government use of torture evoke the worst aspects of the modern megastate."

Apparently this is what happens when the Liberals are left in charge...

Posted by: Macafee at February 25, 2009 5:02 PM

2. The Incredibles: Ayn Rand.

Oh.my.godtopus.

Revelation.

Posted by: J_Capri at February 25, 2009 5:04 PM

Bah...let The National Review die already. I'm as much for saving the print medium as much as the next person, but holy crap, if they've devolved to this sort of random bullshit, just let them go.

Posted by: Smokin at February 25, 2009 5:05 PM

those crazy conservatives. so many of these i just dont get; in any way. Anyone else notice that the conservative media seems to like trying to claim films that have captured the rest of the media zeitgeist for themselves. Yet they fail to realise that these films barely come down on any side of the political spectrum or any argument for right or wrong they serve more to illustrate the multi faceted nature of the situations and that reality does not come down to a left of right, bipartisan dichotomy. Specifically Im talking about Juno and Dark Knight here.

Gah that has to be the most boring description of Groundhog Day ever. It just makes me think that it is a film about Bill Murray learning how to be a "traditionalist" (whatever the fuck that means) obsessive compulsive repetitive type.

The Incredibles is maybe the only film that fits which really shows the absolute inappropriateness or inability of pigeonholing in this way to accurately characterise a film or story. The Incredibles may be these things but it is so much more.

Anyway rant over.

Lol team america and metropolitan

Posted by: jim at February 25, 2009 5:07 PM

I prefer thinking of The Incredibles as a kid-friendly Watchmen.

Posted by: Macafee at February 25, 2009 5:08 PM

To quote Liz Lemon: "You used Ghostbusters for evil!"

You're not getting Dr. Venkman. You hear me, you rat bastards? YOU'RE NOT GETTING VENKMAN!

Posted by: _cG at February 25, 2009 5:10 PM

Wow...i thought this was a movie review site, not an over the top, rage-filled rant against a political party. Oh, and Rowles; save the sarcasm for your personal life. Your reviews have sucked lately. All hail Prisco and Freilich!

Posted by: mae at February 25, 2009 5:12 PM

Where is Glengary Glen Ross? Come one!!


Just look at the incentives:
1st place a Cadillac = billions of stock bonuses for execs, 2nd place steak knives = meager tax cuts for stimulus and 3rd place your f-ing fired = house is foreclosed on and your job is gone.


Sounds like clear concise trickle-down economics to me.

Posted by: brandon at February 25, 2009 5:18 PM

[i]Blast from the Past[/i] details the Conservatives' (in this case, Christopher Walken) secret desire to live in a world where they choose to believe that Los Angeles and those liberals in Hollywood are wiped out in a nuclear explosion.

When this desire does not come about, they simply dig a hole in the ground and escape, thus preserving their conservative ideals.

Posted by: JakesAlterEgo at February 25, 2009 5:19 PM

My guess is "Team America" is on the list because it is one of a very few films that actually makes fun of Hollywood and it's self-aggrandizing, hypocritical ways. "The Player" also comes to mind and could have been on the list.

Posted by: James S at February 25, 2009 5:19 PM

Of course, The Lives Of Others also deals heavily with the merits of freedom of expression in art. Yeah, that's something for which the conservatives have a great record...

Posted by: DarthCorleone at February 25, 2009 5:20 PM

MissSmilla, I thought Ghostbusters was on the list because of the big F-U to the EPA.

Posted by: elsie at February 25, 2009 5:20 PM

Team America isn't a conservative movie or a progressive/liberal movie. The satire extends to both groups. When someone speaking from either side tries to give the old "they are too dumb to realize they are being mocked" to the other(I've heard conservatives say the equivalent) they sound remarkably stupid or they just haven't seen the movie. The beauty/genius of Matt Stone and Trey Parker.

Posted by: Handel at February 25, 2009 5:29 PM

@ Brandon -

How did Glengary not make the cut? Haha!

Posted by: Handel at February 25, 2009 5:37 PM

It would be difficult to find a bigger of Ghostbusters fan than I am, and William Atherton's EPA guy was a dickless (per Peter Venkman) asshole. Certainly it was stupid to just pull the plug on the containment system.

But does that mean that there shouldn't be some sort of scientific government oversight for what the Ghostbusters were doing? Should anyone in the private sector be able to do whatever they want without regard to their neighbors - damn the possible environmental repercussions? Ghost-busting was an unexplored enterprise at that point, and the perils were unknown. Hell, the Ghostbusters themselves were operating rather fly-by-night with the equipment and admitted the unstable dangerous realities of their proton packs, let alone the catastrophic potential of crossing the streams.

No, for those conservatives watching Ghostbusters with those smug grins on their faces, I'd ask them to think about the similar smug grin consisting of humorously positioned toothy frankfurters in the mouth of that slimer-class ghost who busted into the hot dog stand. The hot dog vendor was just a simple entrepreneur living the American dream, and then - because he was near the Ghostbusters headquarters when all hell broke loose - he paid the consequences with his livelihood.

Granted, the EPA pulled the plug, but any major power outage could have wreaked similar havoc. The Ghostbusters owed it to the public to assure them that their containment system was secure. I would never dispute that Ray Stantz, Egon Spengler, Winston Zeddemore, and Peter Venkman are heroes, but - to steal back the political term - they are also "mavericks" operating without regard for their fellow citizens of New York and needed to be at least slightly reined in.

Posted by: DarthCorleone at February 25, 2009 5:43 PM

All I know is my least favorite conservative character was that crazy bitch from The Mist. I couldn't even sit though the film without foaming at the mouth, spewing obscenities and hoping against hope that my dagger eyes didn't shatter the screen on their trajectory path right into her big fat head.

As for movies, I'd like to nominate just about anything starring John Wayne. Westerns in general strike me as conservative films. They're notable when they're lacking the formulaic, romanticizing the past, righteous justice, noble savage, conservative tilt. Like Deadwood. No black and white in that series. They all swimmin' in the grey.

Posted by: Leigh Hacksaw at February 25, 2009 5:46 PM

"Bigger fan of Ghostbusters," that is.

And it's "Zeddmore."

Leave it as always to my impatience to post to kill the momentum of my attempt at humor.

Posted by: DarthCorleone at February 25, 2009 5:48 PM

Most of that list is terrible, but I can sort of see Team America. Sean Penn being a douche and all of that...

I think the point of that movie was that it hit both sides (recall the pussies vs. assholes rant), but GWB was noticeably (glaringly) absent from that film, I thought. That Bush got a pass nudges that movie ever so slightly into the conservative column.

Posted by: jon29 at February 25, 2009 5:50 PM

and they also obviously forgot Starship Troopers.

Posted by: branded at February 25, 2009 6:05 PM

Macafee: I saw this list a couple of weeks ago, that entry for Brazil has to be the most textbook example of cognitive dissonance I've ever seen. It's unreal, it almost made me think for a second that they were trying to test how stupid their readers were. If conservatives really stand against torture, universal police surveillance, security scares etc, where have the people at National Review been these last 8 years?

Posted by: dizzle at February 25, 2009 6:17 PM

Team America does lean conservative. Yeah, he basically calls conservatives dicks (not assholes), but the implication is that it's better to be a dick than a pussy (liberals) or an asshole (Osama, Saddam, Kim Jong-Il). The pussies tell the dicks when they fuck too much, is all. And the conservatives in the film (the actual Team America members) come across as good characters to root for, and the liberals in the film (FAGs) come across as utter douches.

Posted by: John McStain at February 25, 2009 6:17 PM

In Boynton's absence, I will step in an point out that Stillman himself has said Metropolitan is his homage to Jane Austen. Hmm! an homage to a woman who wrote about the frustrations of being controlled by a patriarchal society, inappropriate esteem for money and social position. Yes, I would say a very conservative outlook, wouldn't you?

Posted by: PaddyDog at February 25, 2009 6:23 PM

Buh bye now Mae! And I do pray that the door knob hits you where your good lord split you.
amen.

Posted by: clarity at February 25, 2009 6:28 PM

@paddy: Thank you dear. I left some cold chicken and yummy mac and cheese in the fridge for you. Lovey.

Posted by: ted boynton at February 25, 2009 6:33 PM

Pajiba and many of the comments are a little confused. The GOP, especially today, is not conservative at all in a lot of ways. Thus, critiques of big government are still extremely conservative, even though an administration that claimed to be "conservative" massively expanded governmental power. And this is one of the things that really pisses me off about today's political climate. There may be a conservative backlash, but if so, it's unfair, because conservative principles, especially economically, haven't really been tried lately. Tax cuts are conservative, certainly, but only in conjunction with spending cuts. And the conservative movement is really quite torn on foreign policy issues. Trust me on this one thing. Conservatives never really liked George W. Bush. I didn't even vote for him. They tolerated him and his big government agenda because he was "better than the other guy", which is exactly the problem with our modern political system.

Also, I thought the list was trite, mostly because conservatism and liberalism doesn't really apply to art. When political messages are at the forefront of a movie, the movie dies, in my opinion. Further, like it or not, Hollywood is, and has been for some time, a liberal institution. You're going to have a tough time finding good movies with a conservative message.

Posted by: jmag at February 25, 2009 6:35 PM

jmag:

You make some good points, especially about art but I would challenge you on the confusion issue: the review isn't about pro-GOP movies, it's about conservative movies and the comments relate to traditional conservative "values" in/not in those films on the list.

Boynton:

Many thanks: that chicken is free-range, right?

Posted by: PaddyDog at February 25, 2009 6:49 PM

I'm surprised "Superman" didn't make the list, seeing as he's white and works at the ultra conservative Daily Planet.

Posted by: Pookie at February 25, 2009 7:07 PM

"Triumph of the Will" didn't make the cut?

Posted by: Odnon at February 25, 2009 7:11 PM

this isn't about sex, gary. it's about trust.

Posted by: guiltypartner at February 25, 2009 7:18 PM

20. Gattaca: Wait, I forget. Which administration was responsible for tapping our phone lines?

So do you really think that 43's was the only one? Better check to see who was reading what mail during FDR's reign. Does the "Red Scare" of the late 40s and early 50s ring a bell, that would be Truman. I believe MLK was tapped during the Ike, JFK and LBJ terms. So both side of the political spectrum have done it.

Most conservative film?

Duh? The Ten Commandments, The Passion of the Christ, Patton....missed a few. What a surprise from the National Review

Posted by: richmac at February 25, 2009 7:28 PM

I think it was the most conservative from the past 10 years or so. Didn't
Fireproof make it? One of those Kirk Cameron abominations should have. As well as the David Zucker parody of a Michael Moore movie.

Posted by: MrCresosote at February 25, 2009 7:43 PM

So National Review thinks movies did not exist before 1980 (AKA pre-Reagan)? Or those movies are not worthy of being included in their moronic list?

As for what was not included (although made post-Reagan)--how about March of the Penguins? Didn't some neocon got all misty-eyed about how the penguins have this traditional family values (unlike say, liberals)? Of course, with global warming underway, the emperor penguins are toast in the long run.

Posted by: True_Blue at February 25, 2009 7:45 PM

and which administration wants to keep tapping our phones?

Posted by: andewot at February 25, 2009 7:49 PM

A pox on both houses. Let's do Libertarian movies.

Posted by: bucdaddy at February 25, 2009 8:11 PM

Honestly, I get your explanation of why The Incredibles is on the list, Dustin, in an ironic "haha" kind of way. I don't understand TNR's:
"...a story that celebrates marriage, courage, responsibility, and high achievement. A family of superheroes -- Mr. Incredible, his wife Elastigirl, and their children -- are living an anonymous life in the suburbs, thanks to a society that doesn't appreciate their unique talents. Then it comes to need them. In one scene, son Dash, a super-speedy runner, wants to try out for track. Mom claims it wouldn't be fair. "Dad says our powers make us special!" Dash objects. "Everyone is special," Mom demurs, to which Dash mutters, "Which means nobody is." "

Hu? So... Conservatives think no one is special? Or that people who are different should hide their differences from the world unless they're called on to save society? Or is it just the standard "only we have any interest in marriage, courage, and responsibility?" I don't understand.

Screw it, I'm going to go back to concentrating on my baseball game now.

Posted by: Kizzer at February 25, 2009 8:20 PM

Wow...i thought this was a movie review site, not an over the top, rage-filled rant against a political party.

What're you, new?!

Posted by: TryScience at February 25, 2009 8:44 PM

Thank you, Handel, exactly.

Frankly this list is stupid and it just shows that most people have forgotten what their ideologies really mean. Conservatism has nothing to do with going to war to defend honor, that's a newish Republican thing, and anyway Democrats have been at the helm for way more wars in the past century. Really it has nothing to do with most of the things National Review seems to think it does. Gah, damn you Dustin for hauling this out on a day that I have no time to think deal with it.

bucdaddy I recommend the review of PCU on the site (as I wink at Rowles).

Posted by: Eep at February 25, 2009 9:48 PM

Team America & Brazil remind me of the quote about satire being "the glass in which the viewer sees everyone's reflection but their own".

This list was written by the spiritual brethren of a: the kooks that see the Virgin Mary in a toasted cheese sandwich, or b. the kooks who bid $20,000 for said sandwich on Ebay.

Posted by: Dave Shepherd at February 25, 2009 9:59 PM

Aw, I always feel warm and fuzzy inside when Dustin goes on one of his political tirades. It helps me remember that the annoying, extremist members of my own party aren't the only ones who, for some bizarre reason, are continually angry, infuriatingly intolerant, and always favor sarcasm (the grumpy man's wit!) over discourse.

Posted by: tt_marie at February 25, 2009 10:19 PM

Master and Commander?! And The Truman Show as an honorable mention?!

YOU KEEP YOUR GRUBBY, RICH, WHITE HANDS OFF OF PETER WEIR, CONSERVATIVES!

Seriously though, this list is fucking pathetic. More right-wing assumptions about the left including a tendency towards self-destruction, a hatred for family and a complete lack of morals. What a load of bullshit.

Yeah, Juno chose to stay pregnant because it wouldn't be much of a film if she didn't! Yeah, Bill Murray's character eventually does the right thing in Groundhog Day, not because he decided to become a Republican but because he decided to be a better person to all people, something BOTH parties embody, or at least should. Hey, guess what: Republicans/Conservatives do *not* have a monopoly on morals!

Posted by: vic at February 25, 2009 10:32 PM

The Village should be on this list

Posted by: goldend at February 25, 2009 10:51 PM

Vic >> Well said regarding Groundhog Day.

Posted by: DarthCorleone at February 25, 2009 10:53 PM

bucdaddy & tt_marie, I think I love y'all. When you guys are putting together your slumber party list, can I get an evite? I'd like to have a pillow fight with y'all and then make up for it with some mad cap snuggling while watching Better Off Dead.

Rowles, you commie, I would totally challenge you to fisticuffs, but unlike some people, I'm gonna choose not to let my panties get all twisted over irrelevant opinions.

RE: This List
I love how stupid people reveal themselves to be. Really magazine people, really? Not only was that list not helpful, or entertaining (in the way in which you intended), it was also dumb. Good luck on your quest for relevancy. You can send me an e-mail once you've connected to your AOL dial-up. You know, either that or message me on ICQ.

Posted by: Kayanne at February 25, 2009 11:32 PM

Yeah -- they're once again trying to compare the bravery of Batman to George Bush.

I just got back from teaching a class about comparisons on the SAT, so I must say this: that is an illogical comparison. And I'm not talking about the comparison they drew, but the way you worded that sentence.

My guess is "Team America" is on the list because it is one of a very few films that actually makes fun of Hollywood and it's self-aggrandizing, hypocritical ways.

Yep, that's the reason they give for including it, even though they recognize that the movie as a whole isn't conservative.

Matt Daymin...

Posted by: Sabrina at February 25, 2009 11:39 PM

Oh yeah, and I don't see how ascribing a conservative message to a film automatically taints it.

Posted by: Sabrina at February 25, 2009 11:44 PM

Kayanne,

I'm up for it. I don't have a WBNS for you yet, but you and tt can pick out any other T-shirt I have for your jammies. I should warn you that I have these massively heavy Perfect Pillows that with one swing could render you both unconscious while you're half-naked and ... and ... um, OK, I can't see a downside to that ...

Posted by: bucdaddy at February 26, 2009 12:19 AM

From the description for Brazil: "terrorist bombings, national-security scares, universal police surveillance, bureaucratic arrogance, a callous elite, perversion of science, and government use of torture evoke the worst aspects of the modern megastate."

Ummm....yeah, that doesn't sound like the Bush years at all. Are these people fucking retarded? Oh, yeah...that's right.

Posted by: Joe at February 26, 2009 12:21 AM

I draw the fucking line at Brazil. No. No.

If they think a fucking movie against fascism is pro-them, then they are not conservative. Although this does bring me hope for bringing conies over to the beautiful dark side that is Anarchism.

Posted by: Meredith at February 26, 2009 12:23 AM

I have a bunch of things to say about this bullshit:

1) George Bush is not Batman, he's "the god damn Batman", by witch I mean something to be mocked and reviled like Frank Millers All Star Batman & Robin, an unholy taint on decades of tradition. Besides, Batman steps outside the law, but at least he actually does things well! He caught the Joker, he didn't decide to go after an unrelated super-villain he had a grudge against such as Raz Al Ghul (like Bush did with Iraq) while the one that was actually causing problems was still at large. Plus, Batman helped to clean up Gothem's law system, not tarnish it.

2) Who the fuck ordered this thing!? Lord of the Rings below fucking 300!? 300 kicked a lot of ass, but it was not a good movie! Lord of the Rings kicked more ass, and it was a great movie!

And The Dark Knight at number 12? It should be number 1, followed by The Incredibles!

3) Fuck you, yet again Dustin! The Lord of the Rings movies were great fucking movies! How many times do I have to hammer it into your thick skull! I don't care how good it was, fuck Mystic River! It will never be as memorable as The Lord of the Rings, and it wasn't even as good as The Lord of the Rings!

And yes, they were stupid for thinking Team America didn't make fun of them, along with giving it the criminally low position of number 24. Oh wait, they did know it, because it says so on their fucking site!

This marionette movie from South Park creators Trey Parker and Matt Stone is hard to categorize as conservative. It's amazingly vulgar and depicts Americans as wildly overzealous in fighting terror. Yet the film's utter disgust with air-headed, left-wing celebrity activism remains unmatched in popular culture. As the heroes move to stop a WMD apocalypse, they clash with Alec Baldwin, Tim Robbins, Susan Sarandon, Sean Penn, and a host of others, whom they take out with gunfire, sword, and martial arts before saving the day. The movie, like South Park itself, reveals Parker and Stone as the two-headed George Grosz of American satire.

-Brian C. Anderson, City Journal, posted on The National Review website

Seriously, read the fucking captions. Otherwise this will happen to you again. They may be stupid in large parts of the list in terms of order, and sometimes interpretations, but they're not complete idiots. And 1994 was a toss up year for the Best Picture Oscar, accept it. Forest Gump, Quiz Show, Pulp Fiction, and The Shawashank Redemption were all excellent movies, and I wish I could give them all Best Picture Oscars. At that point, it's a matter of personal opinion; 1994 was similar to this year's Razzie lineup, which one do you think is the worst?

- The Love Guru - Paramount
- Disaster Movie - Lions Gate and Meet The Spartans - 20th Century Fox
- The Happening - 20th Century Fox
- The Hottie & The Nottie - Regent Releasing/Purple Pictures
- In the Name of the King: A Dungeon Siege Tale - Boll KG/Brightlight Pictures

But the truth is, there is no worst in reality, it's a toss up year. The Love Guru won for Worst Picture and Actor, and Uwe Boll won for worst director, but any of these travesties deserve the humiliation of worst film of the year. It's merely a matter of personal opinion by then. I'd have given it to the Seltzer/Friedberg film's, but that's just me.

Posted by: George at February 26, 2009 1:12 AM

12. The Dark Knight: Yeah -- they're once again trying to compare the bravery of Batman to George Bush. Uh huh. You keep banging that gong, G.O.P.

Riiiight . . . because while New Orleans was drowning, Dubya was actually running around saving people in his Batmobile, and was just pretending to sit on his ass and eat birthday cake. Gotcha.

Posted by: Elfrieda at February 26, 2009 1:32 AM

Word, DarthCorleone. WTF! The Lives of Others has the rigid, unfeeling wire-tapping guy go a big softie on the artistic hippies!

This whole list would be hilarious if it weren't so desperately sad. Okay, it's still a little funny.

Bill Buckley is probably turning in his grave over this pap.

Posted by: K at February 26, 2009 4:41 AM

For some reason, they put Serenity on the honorable mentions list.

Posted by: Rowen at February 26, 2009 7:20 AM

Macafee, I would have to agree. Conversely, whenever I'd have to describe Watchmen to someone I'd tell them it was "The Incredibles meets Sin City".

Posted by: Mike R. at February 26, 2009 9:12 AM

Wouldn't Iron Man be a better fit for "Conservative Superhero"? I mean if we're gonna stretch here, he's an asshole Arms Dealer with a conscience, who uses his company's assets to "better the world". He loves the booze, he loves the women, and he's condescending to "the blacks" (not to mention they're changing one of their "blacks" in midstream, due to some management quarrels). All that's missing is the deleted scene where Rhodes says "Next time, baby", and Tony Stark flies back in to say, "Oh NO you don't, boy!"

I mean if we're gonna adjust The Dark Knight to Republican Philosophy, it's only fair to do the same to Iron Man. Hand in glove, kids...hand in glove.

Posted by: Mike R. at February 26, 2009 9:18 AM

Silly Mike R., Robert Downey Jr. can't be racist. It's like a rule or something: if there's a picture of you hanging in the Pajiba Spanklotron nothing you say can be racist.

Posted by: Eep at February 26, 2009 10:56 AM

to summarize the post and vast majority of comments - conservatives are a bunch of gun toting, racist, immoral dumbasses. got it. thanks for clearing that up.

Posted by: sosumi at February 26, 2009 11:16 AM

National Review is by far the shortest of wingnut welfare buses. These are the same clowns who topped their list of, um, "conservative" rock songs with Won't Get Fooled Again. Which made sense in a weird way, since Bush selectively (and unironically) used verses from that song in campaign appearances in '00 and '04.

I give them props, though, for expanding the scope for critiquing art beyond the usual criteria of "good" and "bad". "Politically useful" hasn't been utilized nearly enough since the Soviet Union collapsed.

Posted by: Heywood J. at February 26, 2009 11:22 AM

for fuck sake, this list is a bad a those people that call Wedding Crashers a chick flick.

Posted by: Ulfikedup at February 26, 2009 11:33 AM

to summarize the post and vast majority of comments - conservatives are a bunch of gun toting, racist, immoral dumbasses.

Welp, if there was any element to the McCain/Palin campaign other than stirring up a reacionary, proudly low-info demographic, they sure hid it well. Really, the people who call themselves "conservatives" these days simply aren't. They're ideologically incoherent.

They're all for smaller gubmint, except when it comes to starting wars, data mining, wiretapping, domestic surveillance, imprisoning people without charge, and of course keeping gay people from undermining the sacred institution of marriage. Other than that, yeah, Washington just gets in the way of their brilliant ideas.

Actually, the fact that they seem to need to compile lists of otherwise disconnected pop-culture artifacts to describe their political philosophy shows how empty it's become.

Posted by: Heywood J. at February 26, 2009 11:38 AM

I saw this list when it came out, read it over, and thought it was pretty lame.

What I didn't realize was that someone could write a review of it that was even lamer than the list itself.

I suppose this is some kind of postmodern triumph, but I don't think it was the effect you were going for.

To address a few of your juvenile political pokes: the Obama administration has not stopped listening to phone calls (and won't), Bush was such a racist that he appointed blacks and Hispanics all over the place, and maybe you should wait more than a month to gloat about how much better the Democrats are running the country. (Nevermind they've been in control of Congress for two years already, with disastrous results.) I suspect we'll be taking it back from you in four years, after Obama's "quick, spend all the money before anyone notices" strategy turns out to be a bad idea.

Bite my conservative (or at least libertarian) ass,
jvon

Posted by: jvon at February 26, 2009 1:00 PM

@ MissSmilla

That actually makes sense, and that is scary.

Posted by: chenry at February 26, 2009 2:03 PM

"So National Review thinks movies did not exist before 1980 (AKA pre-Reagan)? Or those movies are not worthy of being included in their moronic list?"

True_Blue: way to read. It's a list of the 25 best conservative movies of the PAST 25 YEARS.

I want to say that as a libertarian, I hate the fact that George Bush and the modern Republican Party is equated with "conservative." They talk a good game about smaller government, but they haven't practiced what they've preached in years, and it's really unfair to lump true conservatives in with them.

Posted by: Chris at February 26, 2009 5:42 PM

I think I'll stick to only reading the Lost recaps...

Posted by: Stew at February 27, 2009 9:19 AM

george, why do you care about the positions on THIS list? do you really want LOTR being the Most Conservative film?
I don't get it.

Posted by: Twatwafle at February 27, 2009 10:52 AM

Ha! Conservatives are idiots! It's fun to mock other peoples' beliefs for no reason than the fact that they're different from mine!

Posted by: Frank1414 at February 27, 2009 3:23 PM

Ha! Conservatives are idiots! It's fun to mock other peoples' beliefs for no reason other than the fact that they're different from mine!

Posted by: Frank1414 at February 27, 2009 3:24 PM

It's odd how the term Conservative has done a 180. Just what does it mean? What, in fact, is being conserved? Imperialism? Racism? The Invisble Hand? None of them have worked out so well, at least not in the modern era.

How about the things Frank Capra wanted to conserve, like decency, community, and honesty? Do they now resonate too closely with socialism? Or how about the connectivity among working folks that was broken during the dust storms in Steinbeck's "Grapes of Wrath"? Isn't the concern for others illustrated in the film worth conserving?

Or how about the corruption in "Chinatown" mostly fostered by what now would be called free-market capitalists? Isn't the world of naive sentimnent and trust among people that existed before the grand crimes worth conserving? Or is it, win at all costs and the guy with the most toys wins? Is that what conservatism is?

Or how about "Boiler Room" -- sort of a prescient exploration of the type of scams pursued by Madoff? Isn't the rather widespread trust that existed, which made the scams possible, worth conserving? Or should everyone be suspicious of everyone? Is suspicion the most conservative of all traits? Say it ain't so Bernie.

Conservatives like to align themselves with being fiscally conservative, which means not allowing too much cheese to be given to needy families. Hey, how 'bout AIG? That's a lot of cheese? And don't forget the banks. They're still going to get a bundle to make up for all that gelt wasted on Credit Default Swaps.

Too bad derivatives are so complicated because there's a movie waiting to be made about how physicists were enlisted to create them in a way so that virtually no one would understand just what they were. Just ask the people of Iceland, or Norway, or the CIS nations.

Is the Ayn Rand take-what-you-can philosophy despite the fact that allies as well as enemies deepen their mistrust in the process conservative? If so, then count me out.

Posted by: wacky rascal at March 4, 2009 4:52 PM





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