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even though it's used correctly, i'm still confused about the idea of an "obama republican." how can one agree with obama and still feel like their alignment with the republican party is a good idea?
that being said -- yeah. ouch. this stings.

And this is why the saying is "ignorance is bliss."

Oh, I remember in 2000 reading "George Bush can smell what the Rock is cookin'" so that one I knew about.

Dennis has done the Bush/McCain distancing thing though, along with......everybody?

I love it that the Dwayne "the Rock" is referred to as a "she." I was so confused I actually had to google

If it were a typo, it's a most gay-Republican-truth-telling-typo of them all.

So, the witch hunt begins. Obviously anyone who is not rank and file Obamagasmic is either a drooling, knuckle dragging, troglodyte, or pure eee-vil.
We must NAME THEM!
Have fun with that McCarthy.

Please, do not accuse liberals of McCarthyism for wishing people were not Republican, oh Lords of Irony that Do Not Get Irony. Everything is not an attack on your ideals. Don't you wish some of your favorite stars were Republican? Points for troglodyte, though.

Dems? Reps? Who cares? What I really want to know is "boxers" or "briefs". Oprah did not follow up on this.

Basil and George - You're welcome to go hang out at other sites so that our liberal cooties don't rub off on you.

George - if you think that party affiliation doesn't matter, well, you are wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong. Doesn't mean we can't agree to disagree, or even be friends, but it says a lot about a person.

Basil - sounds like you're the one who thinks there's something shameful in being Republican...

Allow me Dustin, first George do not mind using that vile and despicable word cunt, which means he hates women. Secondly, he hates Olbermann, which means he is either Independent or Republican. Thirdly, he has a love/hate relationship with you concerning your work as a critic. All of those factors lead me to the conclusion that George is gay and is finally coming to that conclusion, and is contemplating coming out over Christmas. Am I right George?

but it [being a Republican] says a lot about a person.

Really, tamantha? It says which way a person may or may not vote (but not even conclusively), but it doesn't say "a lot" at least not any more than declaring to be a Democrat.

It always weirds me out that Pajiba tries to peg itself as the epitome of acceptance (and most times are), but any time someone is outed as a Republican, you're immediately disappointed in him or her.

You assume these people are ignorant and abandoning you without even have a conversation one way or the other about it. And this coming from a girl who hopes the GOP will die out sooner rather than later so a more progressive conservative group can step in to take its place (since, apparently, there's no room for third parties in our government).

Eh, I give up.

Damn, Denzel.

I no longer want many of your beautiful chocolate babies. It's over.

Shit! I'm totally late for work.

Cindy I would love one of those pies. Yes, in that way.

Sam Raimi?...If Spiderman 3 hadn't been so crappy I would be feeling worse; now if you tell me Bruce Campbell is racist you might as well shoot me in the head.

I don't see bucdaddy on your list.

Ahahahahahaha. WIN.

Though to be perfectly honest, I really don't give a damn about a celebrity's politics. I think both sides are equally insane.

I'm what passes for a Republican in Canada, so by American standards I must be a moderate communist.

Deep dish I assume, admin?

Haha... political threads wouldn't be the same without all the defensive Republicans. Personally, I don't mind the Republican party as a concept - the libertarian wing of it is pretty reasonable, and if any of them actually ran for office, I might vote for one. Straight up conservatives (of the marriage-equality-opposing, social conservative variety) are pretty much everything that's wrong with the world, though.

I also have a revelation- one so shocking and huge that Pajiba may never be the same.

I Dylan Jones, am a Republican.

Drink it in world.

No Cindy I prefer it in a normal pan so you get a good mix of...wait..um yeah a really deep dish. With lots of whipped cream. You have to have the whipped cream.

Kayanne

you brought up a good point. Everything is tolerated except for somebody not sharing the exact same political ideology. It makes me love that South Park episode of the tolerance concentration camp even more.

I've just been hitting refresh for the past 10 minutes.

I'm still waiting for the shit to really start flying. C'mon, you know you want to!

Fight! Fight! Fight!

I probably need a more challenging job.

Tamantha, if party affiliation says a lot about a person, then this list wouldn't really surprise anyone, would it?

I really don't see the issue with this list. It's Dustin's blog and he isn't under any kind of obligation to be balanced. The list does come across as kind of douchey but so does bitching about it.

Ewwwww, those evil republicans. Maybe 4 years from now the post will be "Five Guys It May Pain You to Realize Are Democrats."

I don't really understand why people don't think that voting republican says something about someone. Maybe if they voted republican by doing eenie meenie miney moe.

Good or bad, it obviously says something about their values.

See, I have this friend who labels himself Republican. However, he's talking about old-school, pre-association-with-Christian-conservativism Republican. He rarely actually votes Republican, because he doesn't agree with the current party values.
That's the point I'm trying to make, is that someone can call themselves whatever they want, it doesn't necessarily mean they are what someone else thinks that means.

AvB: best rabble-rouser ever.

RABBLERABBLERABBLERABBLERABBLERABBLERABBLERABBLERABBLERABBLERABBLERABBLERABBLERABBLERABBLERABBLERABBLERABBLERABBLERABBLERABBLERABBLERABBLERABBLERABBLERABBLERABBLERABBLE

tee hee, figs!

Vincent Gallo claims to be a Republican too.

I know, who cares, right?

Vincent Gallo makes me really, really uncomfortable.

Yes, exactly when did we become accepting around here? I thought that we were all about shamefully hiding our flaws/Tootsie roll centers (but not our kinkiness)? Whenever I comment, I use my mind to take myself to my happy place. Coincidentally, forcing myself to black out like that is how I get through my work day, too!

Fuck any actor or actress that makes clear their political alliances. I hate both dems and republicans so I'm probably the odd man out. Real artistes don't fucking flaunt their political alliances because they're supposed to be above that. Causes are fine but democrat? Republican? Fuck parties they ruin the system.

Also can NeoCons and republicans split the fuck up already? I'm tired of assholes assuming all republicans are shitheads because of the fucked up Neocon policies and people that have infiltrated the party. Where the hell are my fiscal conservative, government out of the bedroom republicans? Did you fuckers sell your soul to the NeoCon wave of social intolerance and fiscal fucknuttery? Or did you become no party tards like me?

Fuck parties. Excuse my vitrol, but FUCK the 2 Party system it's a load of shit.

Also on a side note, it's good to see Obama is stacking his administration with Clinton cronies, so much for fucking change.

But can we all at least agree that Republicans tend to be haters?

I mean, if the entire Republican platform was just about states' rights, lower taxes, and smaller government I doubt there would be such a strong reaction...right?

Come on, I can sense that this is heating up.

Dustin are you going to let George call you stupid? His attack on you is so...lame...!

Devo, you're so right. Why would Obama want to stack his administration with competent Clinton cronies, when he could just as easily stacked his administration with, good job Brownie, and Alberto "Speedy" Gonzales. I mean, what the fuck is Obama thinking?

Oh Pookie if Obama wants economic change he shouldn't fucking install people who were asleep at the wheel in any administration. And I love the Cold War Hawks seeping their claws into his inner circle too.

lol Change works if it means reverting back to the Clinton era.

JP - Why do you think that a person's belief of what their Government should be. Protect state rights... less government intervention ... lower taxes ...... doesn't say a lot about a person? One's political philosophy is an important aspect of one's values. And your values say a lot about you.

I have to say that I'm baffled as to why folks seem to be saying that "No! No! My political beliefs don't say anything about me!" WTF? You don't have to affiliate with a political party, but if you do, then that does say something about you. It simply does. And for some reason, folks seem to be assuming that because I've said that political affiliation says something about you, that inherently means it says something bad. Fascinating--'cause that's not what I've said. Yet.

Huh, I'm really the only conservative leaning lady out there in Pajiba-land? No other Lady Libertarians? Really?

My nerves are raw from the emotional exhaustion that is finals. I'm keeping my mouth shut.

Also, Pooks, please don't tell me this means we're done? Not all conservatives suck ass, dammit!

And stop being such a woman-hating little boy. I think you'll really enjoy vaginas once you see one.

marya - I think I love you.

"No party" for the fucking win my friends. Although primaries are retarded when you're without a party. Woo ONE CHOICE or NO CHOICE, yes!

Cold War Hawks! Oh shit, Iran Contra fun and games, fun and motherfucking games. Devo what the fuck are you talking about? You can't name me one Republican President that's has ever balanced the budget, or given a fuck about the military.

Wherein did I say Republicans are better? Your bias is showing loud and clear my friend.

See I have this problem where I judge all presidents past and present on this thing called issues and their actions, not their party affiliation. So I'm critical of all of them regardless.

And you see Obama has just reinstalled much of Clinton's cabinet. This does not bode well for any of us. What this has to do with any republican, I'm not sure but apparently in your line of defense any critique of Obama lands me in the "sympathetic to republican" box. Unfortunately for you I'm not sympathetic to any president or party. Seriously guy what the fuck is your problem?

Kayanne- I think you see a conflict in our positions that does not really exist.

Absolutely, a Dem can vote Repub and vice versa, but voting's not the whole story.

The step of affiliating with a political party says that you choose to align yourself with at least some of the tenets of that party.

The fact that you have chosen to remain unaffiliated says to me that you don't feel comfortable enough with what any of the political parties represent to want to throw your lot in with them. And that you want to keep your options open.

I'm always much more disappointed in the Scientologist lists.

Posted by: DarthCorleone at December 3, 2008 4:51 PM

+1

Ha ha!

Devo is trying to take Pookie to task.

Haven't you put it together, man? Pookie doesn't exist on the same plane as the rest of us. He is somewhere else...and nothing you cut and paste will stop him.

There's no sense in trying.

Thanks dylanj. 'Cause why else would you sign up to join that party, right? Doesn't mean that you agree with all aspects of your chosen party, or that they sometimes don't go in a direction you completely disagree with.

Balanced the budget, gave us a surplus that Bush decided we didn't need. Doesn't take away shit like NAFTA though does it? Still got that.

@dylanj:

Good call on Richardson. Why Obama'd pick the inherently annoying person over the veteran diplomat as Secretary of State is beyond me.

Good point Arr Matey, Devo can cut and paste with the best of them. What sane motherfucker walks around with East Timorese on the tip of their tongue. I think he keeps that information in his attacks against Clinton file. I mean really, after eight years of total chaos, Devo is more concerned about some shit that went down during one of the most prosperous times in American history than he is in the shit that went down during Comrade Bush's term, I think it's call misdirection Devo.

Good move for Bush to get rid of the surplus, I mean really, America don't need no stinking savings account. Because the oil we will get from eye-rock will pay for everything.

And yet I said nothing about Bush getting rid of the surplus as a good thing. You're in a class of your own Pookie.

Denzel Washington? Really? The whole Republican thing isn't nearly as weird as being a conservative Christian. Having seen Tranining Day, Man on Fire, and American Gangster I never would have guessed that Denzel was a hardcore Christian.

Of course you didn't, I was being sarcastic Devo. The whole point of me going back and forth with you is that the whole world is waiting for Bush to leave office and you're trying to defend/compare him to Clinton and I think you're so cute playing the underdog role.

Yes let's just let another president roll the cement truck over us because people won't be critical of just who he's putting in his cabinet.

I won't argue with Clinton - someone with an inhuman talent for irritating people isn't someone we want representing us internationally. Especially when he could have picked Richardson. But Timothy Geithner is the perfect guy for the job - his specialty seems to be successfully presiding over bailouts.

@Pookie: You're talking about something completely different - right now, we're looking at a financial crisis, which comes from us not regulating the market, leading to subprime loans and other dumbass strategies. That's from deregulation, which has nothing to do with fiscal policy. That's why we can fund the bailout with deficit spending - if what you said was true (that deficit spending led to the collapse) we wouldn't be able to do that.

Really!?!!

Not a single conservative lady out there but me. Wow, I knew libertarianism would be lonely, but I didn't know it'd be this bad.

I'm totes miz, you guys.

Kayanne, I possess two X chromosomes as well.

Thank you for the compliment Arr Matey, I don't want to blow my own horn but after college I was invited to join a few Think Tanks in the Washington D.C. area, but of course I declined. As far as your desire for more name calling, the night is young.

Tamatha, I'm not saying that your party affiliation says Nothing about a person, but it does not say as much about a person as you imply. This concept that Republicans, are hateful, bigoted, greedy, anti-environmental, etc., is as silly as me calling all Democrats hippie-commie tree huggers.

A lot of the time, the two parties share similar beliefs, just different ways of how to accomplish them (i.e., balance a budget, give tax credits to the middle class, handle the current bailouts).

I live in Cali, where our "Republican" governor is against off-shore drilling, was vocally against Prop 8, was neutral on the big anti-crime initiates in the recent election, and wants to raise taxes. But he also pushed hard for laws that result in less work comp benefits, more casinos, was for a law that would require parent notification before a teen could have an abortion, no on the alternative energy initiates, and no on the animal rights law that was recently passed.

So here's the thing: it's not inherently BAD to be a Republican or to believe in the ideals of the Republican party. The Republican party was based on the premise that the government should be allowed to intervene and intrude very little in the private lives and livelihoods of the American public. Less government, more personal responsibility. Isn't that sort of the ideal? We are, for the most part I'm guessing, a bright bunch of boys and girls here. I don't like having Uncle Same tell me I need to pay more here and stop fucking there. I like to make my own rules and live by my own wits to a degree. And assuming that Americans are unable to do such really feeds into a self-fulfilling prophecy that Americans aren't that smart after all and do need a bunch of silver spoon-fed, elitist politicians to tell them how to go about their daily business.

Problem is, the word Republican has now become synonymous with and heralded by the extremist Christian right and social conservatism. If only we could decide, as a nation, to stop wasting our time and tax dollars on legislating morality and trying to argue whose religious beliefs are the least ridiculous and most applicable, we might actually be able to go somewhere as a world leader in economy and democracy.

If only.

Sadly, that doesn't seem to be the case, so when it came election day, I had no choice but to pull the lever for Obama, a leader I fortunately do believe in and do have hope for. As much as I don't want elections and politics to be about social issues, they are, because those are the issues that get Average Joe and Average Jane to the polls, and politicians know that. Those are the issues that make money for lobbyists who make money for politicians. It's an ugly, ugly cycle, and so I chose to go with the lesser of two evils, the candidate whose beliefs I felt most closely coincided with my own. I don't claim to be a Democrat, and I don't claim to be a Republican. I think pigeonholing oneself into one of those categories is antiquated and silly. I simply try and vote for the best man, or woman, for the job.

That all being said, can you fucking believe Heidi and Spencer are Republicans? It breaks my heart.

It breaks...my heart.

The Pink Hulk I am sending you so many hugs right now. Thanks for getting it, mister.

But, the fact that you're into Heidi and Spencer's business breaks my heart.
It breaks... my heart.

Well said, Sofia.

My Republican sister voted for Obama.

Cunt, clit, cunnilingus, and twat.

What can I say K, I try.

Oh sure, I'm a poop.

Pardon me if people discussing their differences in a rational and respectful manner just makes me want to PUKE.

Keep the dischord alive, you jerks!

[Denzel]'s still a hardcore Christian conservative...

Well, that explains his unabashed and rampant cheating on his wife.

Arr Matey you're a jerk-face, meanie, dweebie, crap-monger. So suck it. Nyah! I'll see you at recess, dork!

Pooks class and all it's efforts is slowly boiling my brain. But it's my job in campus tech support that may have driven me to madness. But, this to shall pass.

How was your day? What on earth do you do that leads you to a life filled with such cwazy rants?

As far as the rants go, I'm bipolar.

Oh, jeez. Canadian politics gets halfway interesting for once (no, really, this is the only time it's ever been interesting! Well, except for that time the prime minister choked a cameraman...), and all you guys can go on about is your silly two-party system.

Hey admin--Harper's goin' down, my friend! *heehee*

I'm sorry I wasn't trying to rub it in, but at times it does get boring. But so boring that I want a fucking job.

I find your intelligence sexy.

I'm just telling you how I feel, your words provide warmth.

Since meeting you K, I've changed for the better.

....and to show how serious you are you chose to come on pajiba, a fucking movie review website to shout out your frustrations as opposed to taking your complaints to anyone of a fucking millions political blogs that exist for fuckers like you.

Oh Kayanne, I'm not really into Heidi and Spencer. 'Twas a joke. I wouldn't even know who there were if it wasn't for "Chelsea Lately." Promise.

I'm sorry K, but these guys see you and I are having a conversation and they chose to interrupt what we having going on.

Haha, Pooks,

1.) I don't care that you've got more venom than a viper.
2.) This is a public thread. You could be making people uncomfortable with all your advances on me, mister.

Ha! Asking them not to talk is only going to make them talk more. And that's pretty presumptuous of you, Pooks. It is a free interweb, ya know.

Haha, fair enough. Nice tactic. Maybe it has scared them off?

he revealed himself on "The Today Show."

Who drooled more when that happened - Matt Lauer or Katie Couric?

Oh you mean like a Renaissance man?

Goodnight K, Top Chef is about to come on.

Nice. Goodnight, Pooks!

You talk about Vince Vaughn's "Midwestern upbringing", yet forget that for three elections straight the most populaced Midwestern states (Michigan, Minnesota, Wisconson, and Iowa) have all voted Democrat. Don't lump all Midwesterners into the Dakotas' red orgy.

"Dion couldn't lead Courtney Love to a blow party"

*sigh* It's true, admin. I really wish it wasn't...but it's true.

And I'm a hippy-dippy environmental type, and I can't bring myself to root for the Green party either. Maybe with a different leader...I've seen May before she took the post, and she certainly doesn't strike me as bright enough to run a country. Layton seems like a decent choice to me, although I'm not totally in agreement with the NDP's policies.

Mostly, I just wish we could go more than a year without the freakin' government upheaval. Gah! Politics, go away!

This post reminds me of that scene from Scrubs, in the lunch room, when Elliot was outed as a closet Republican, and she decided to stand up and embrace it, and then she and her hunky intern (can't remember his name) found out they were both Republicans and had hot Reaganite sex in the supply closet.
Maybe similar pairings will be made today???

So Jenn-I have to ask-would that be "Supply-Side", or "Trickle-Down"

Michael

so basically lillianna28 is a douche. (yes, this insult applies to women as well.)

That kind of inflammatory hyperbole is what I would expect from an 18 yr old who just took their first semester of college poly sci and thinks they know the score. One of the sad things about the spread of technology is that hacks and mouth breathers can afford to cruise around the internet(s) with the people who take the time to have actual dialogue.

Another thing about Clinton, Devo, he balanced the budget because we were flying high on the internet bubble. Just like George Bush had the economy looking good (in the simplest terms and only by some indicators) because of the housing bubble. It was all smoke and mirrors, both times. This economy has been shit for decades.

Pookie- I take this stuff seriously because it's fucking serious business. We've all been fucking off and abdicating our role as the rulers of this country, which is why we've allowed a series of slick talking, corrupt, power hungry assholes take over. I come to talk here because engaging people with a different viewpoint is how you learn--and how you let others learn from you when you're right. I've learned a lot and changed my views on key issues because of discussions I've had here. Talking only with people who already agree with you is how you end up with ignorant political extremes.

Eep- please accept my apology I was not trying to imply that you weren't serious about your political beliefs, sometimes in my haste to be funny I overlook the seriousness of the subject at hand. I too love this country, my father bled in Vietnam, and his father bled in WWII. When I hear Bush apologizing about a war he could have chose not to fight my blood boils. Sometimes humor is the only thing that can get you through the day.

Pooks, maybe we owe and apology to figgy and everybody else?

Sorry folks.

Good morning, Pooks, but I do think we really should play nice for the other folks here. Yes?

Pooks, don't cause us any trouble!

lilianna28

if you really believe that being a Republican in 2008 makes you a "bad person" then you're a fucking idiot and not worth another word.

Doh! dylanj I saw that coming.

Seriously, is someone's political ideology that big a deal? Who cares who one votes for as long as they're educated on the issues and candidates?

And I never udnerstood why being a Republican is such an evil thing - Lincoln was a Republican. And although the party didn't exist during our country's formative years, many of our first presidents followed political ideals that would now be considered Republican: smaller federal government, less taxation, more states' rights, etc. Our country was essential founded on Republican and conservative points of view.

And I'm a democrat, by the way, since I can already anticipate the mud about to be slung my way.

Yeah, I'm looking at you, Millard.

I think the important thing for us all to ask ourselves is: are we human or are we dancers?

Hopper is scary as shit, so that doesn't surprise me (although he did announce he was voting for Obama).
Sam Raimi...now THAT is a huge bummer. I hope beyond hope that he's an old school Republican who believes in moderate government spending versus the new Evangelical nutjob republicans who believe in mindless hate mongering. I actually know (and really like) a few people that identify as republican but don't fit the creepy mold so I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt on this one.

Yeah, Republicans are REAL bad. Let's all give our (and our children's and our grandchildren's) tax dollars to the automakers so the same useless $40+ dollar an hour union scam artists can keep on making a killing doing nothing ad infinitum. Democrats are so smart!

Smart people.

Sam Raimi, republican. YES! I am a republican wanting to be a director and Raimi is my favorite director

srry,didnt mean to submit that one twice