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Not groovy, Sam Raimi. Not groovy.

Dwayne, why you gotta do me like you do?

Whatever.

I'm more interested in which actors are spelunkers. Or baby eaters.

Yeah Dennis Hopper defended Obama after meeting him, and rejected the whole McCain/Palin ticket due to their attacks on what he saw as a very good guy.

Dustin, who cares.

Seriously, who the fuck cares about what party you are, parties make no difference in who you are. My god, you can be stupid. You may be one of the best critics on the internet, but I can't abide by your support of that piece of condenced cunt fluid Keith Olbermann, and some of your other stupid statements.

Sam Raimi! Bummer. I had no idea about that one. And you're sure we can't rule out some kind out some kind of demonic possession?

And wait, what about Ted Raimi? Come one Joxer don't let me down.

1. Sam Raimi -- Ouch. The director of the Evil Dead and Spider-Man trilogies actually donated money to the Bush/Cheney campaigns in 2000 and 2004. That one stings the most.

This explains why Spider Man 3 was so bad, and why 4 and 5 are being made...the man clearly agrees with an ideology of torture.

Monica - Do you really care what Dwayne's political affiliation is? Don't you mainly just want to be sexed up by him and not actually have heart-to-hearts?

I've always said that The Rock would be the perfect man if he weren't Republican.

But Denzel? You break my heart, sir. You break my heart.

George, I think you mean condensed. And who knew there was such a thing - do they sell it in cans with which to make sexually attractive pumpkin pie?

Sam Raimi stings a bit, but if you tell me Bruce Campbell is a Republican, my heart will get a little blacker and I might cry a little tear.

Heh. My prediction: This will be the most interesting (read:obnoxious) thread of the day.

I am now kicking my feet up on my desk with my refresh button at the ready.

GO!

(everyone knows Republicans eat babies and enjoy kicking puppies)

Pajiba is an environment of welcoming, and you should just get the hell out.

Anna vB it's already obnoxious thanks to my total destruction of grammar in my last comment. Me talk pretty one day.

Can't we do a list of Libertarians? Or Green Party Folks?

Can't we all just get along?!?!!!?? I thought all of this was over when we all parted (amicably, I might add) on the Obama victory comment thread. Yeesh.

(everyone knows Republicans eat babies and enjoy kicking puppies)

Pajiba is an environment of welcoming, and you should just get the hell out.

Posted by: figgy

Arrrggghhhh! Because you quoted The Office, figgy, I'm inclined to forgive you... THIS TIME! Muahahahaha

And also, hugs to bucdaddy. You make my conservative leaning heart swell with pride.

I honestly don't care if someone is Republican/Democrat/Libertarian/Tastycrat, etc. I'm pretty liberal, as are my parents, siblings, and most of my friends. My extended family are almost all hardcore conservatives, and my mother's boyfriend, one of my best friends and my brother-in-law voted for Bush in both elections. I love them, we just happen to disagree on a lot of issues. We'll argue, sometimes vehemently (oh man it got ugly when my friend voted for Santorum in '06), but basic political views haven't changed how I feel about them.

Meh meh meh.

Oh, yeah, who am I kidding?

I'd still totally have Denzel's babies.

Kayanne - yep it does. It says something about a person's political ideology and what they value. And by "it" in my original post, I clearly wrote political affiliation--so that means Republican or Democrat (or the numerous other political parties that are out there). If one bothers to affiliate oneself with a political party, then one is definitely making a statement about where one sees oneself in the world.

Oh, and there is no "n" in my first name. If you are going to call me out, at least spell my name correctly. When in doubt, copy and paste.

*sigh* Fine. You win, yadda yadda yadda, here's your gold star!

I lose two points for technical fouls (of the grammar and name-spelling variety) and the whole world learns I suck.

My apologies to tamatha. And I didn't even ctrl+v it! I may have botched my routine, but I sure as hell stuck the landing.

This post reminds me of that scene from Scrubs, in the lunch room, when Elliot was outed as a closet Republican, and she decided to stand up and embrace it, and then she and her hunky intern (can't remember his name) found out they were both Republicans and had hot Reaganite sex in the supply closet.

Maybe similar pairings will be made today???

The only one who disappointed me was The Rock but then a commentor up there made me realize that I'd really only have sex with him so...yea, political ideology doesn't matter.

The Republican party is much different than it used to be. It took on some crazy Neo-conservative, Bible-thumping, non-transparent freak show type...thing when the newest Bush took office. I don't think Republicans know what Republicans used to be. As a concept, the Republican party is a great party but the last eight years have seen the party go haywire.

By the way, I am officially loving the word "party" to describe a political affiliation. I hated it all through the election process but now it just seems fun.

Kayanne - doubt very much that you suck. You did find your way here, and discovered that you liked the lot of us (give or take a few, I'm sure). So, even if you are a wackjob (I kid! I kid!) conservative (and I'm not saying that you are), you can't be all bad. :)

I didn't know about Vince Vaughn, mainly because I never bothered to care, but he's a Cubs fan AND a Republican? And he made another shitty Christmas movie? He is officially unredeemable to me. And, for that matter, I wasn't aware that anyone in Chicago voted Republican. I know he's from the suburbs, but still!

Good point, NotBlonde... Republican means different things to different people, so how can you really say that it says something about them? Same goes for every other party that exists.

On the other hand, stereotypes make life easier.

/adding fuel to the fire in an attempt to make this thing OUT OF CONTROL

Anna Von Beaverplatz (totally laughed out loud when I read that), I guess it just bothers me when people assume the worst when someone says "Republican" or "Democrat". Not all Republicans are assholes, same as not all Democrats are liberal, Pinko, Commie, Marxist, Socialist, tree-huggers who never wash their hair.

Conservatives suck ass, and that is my contribution to this debate about tolerance and political ideology.

Question: where exactly did people get the idea that Pajiba bills itself as tolerant? The tagline isn't "Scathing Reviews for Non-Judgmental People," folks.

I'm surprised Christopher Nolan isn't mentioned on this list. He's a hardcore conservative. That's why the Dark Knight was an apologia for the Bush-Cheney years.

I voted the hell out of Obama, so take that into consideration when reading this.

Personally, I believe the GOP needs to become two parties. On the one hand you have fiscally conservative and socially progressive, on the other you have fiscally and socially belligerent. In time, the former would grow to become a viable rival to the Democratic party (because let's face it, Dems, we need one - unchecked power is unchecked power, I don't care who wields it) while the latter would wither and die.

Honestly I think that's the only way they're going to survive. I remain hopeful there are still enough intelligent Republicans (I'm looking at the ones who parted ties with McCain near the end) to pull it off.

@Anonymoose

Haha... it was hilarious to watch the conservative columnists/bloggers cream themselves over that. Especially when the take-home message is that the right wing seems to think that they're batman.

Is that the original Joe the Plumber or some guy using Joe the Plumber's moniker.

you'd be surprised...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Pitchka/Republican_Celebrities_Page

I'm not sure - by original Joe the Plumber, you mean the bald, not actually a plumber, 15 minutes of fame guy (not me) or a commenter (might be me.)

This is bullshit. These Hollywood bigwigs are so out of touch with society. They're not real Republicans like me. They just do it to fit in with the rest of Hollywood.

And Tamatha, party affiliation can say a lot about a person... or it could just indicate a person's belief of what their Government should be. Protect state rights... less government intervention ... lower taxes ......

Victoria Jackson of SNL fame is also a raging Republican, very conservative and very insane. I'm surprised you didn't put her on the list. Anyway, Sam Riami is quite a surprise and not too bright either...he donated both times?! I can understand the first time, but the second time? That's just not cool....at all...of course Denzel had to support Obama, he's also Christian you know?

joe - are you kidding? They are actors; their job is to mold themselves into different characters. In theory, we have no idea who their true selves are. On top of that, Hollywood has a reputation for being a hotbed of Democratic leanings, so yeah, that's why A) this list is a surprise, and B) their political affiliation says a lot about them--it still speaks to how they identify themselves in the scheme of things.

And again, MY NAME HAS NO N IN IT. And missing that the first time I pointed it out, makes you an idiot. Or just really, really, really--I mean REALLY--slow.

Oh, on the subject of Republican actors, last I checked, Gary Oldman is a big ol' Republican.

Last I heard Gary wasn't much of anything, he just got mad that a movie leaned pro-democrat when it should have been objective. I guess that makes him a honorary republican or something.

Sam Raimi? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

I'm gonna go cry in the corner now.

JP - Why do you think that a person's belief of what their Government should be. Protect state rights... less government intervention ... lower taxes ...... doesn't say a lot about a person? One's political philosophy is an important aspect of one's values. And your values say a lot about you.

I have to say that I'm baffled as to why folks seem to be saying that "No! No! My political beliefs don't say anything about me!" WTF? You don't have to affiliate with a political party, but if you do, then that does say something about you. It simply does. And for some reason, folks seem to be assuming that because I've said that political affiliation says something about you, that inherently means it says something bad. Fascinating--'cause that's not what I've said. Yet.

My god, you can be stupid. You may be one of the best critics on the internet, but I can't abide by your support of that piece of condenced cunt fluid Keith Olbermann, and some of your other stupid statements.

Posted by: George at December 3, 2008 2:11 PM

I'm sorry, George, you don't get to call anyone stupid until you learn to use spell check. And stop being such a woman-hating little boy. I think you'll really enjoy vaginas once you see one.

Aaaand I'm back.

tamatha Just one little point and this is a teeny tiny itsy bitsy one:

One's political party does not determine how he or she votes.

A republican can vote democrat; a democrat can vote republican, and any one of them could vote third party if the system would let them. I'm unaffiliated. What does that say about me? Go ahead: generalize.

Wearing red or blue doesn't mean that either one of them is your favorite color. It just means it looks good on ya (sometimes).

tamatha

I voted for Obama and he doesnt have alot of the values I hold dear. However, it was clear that he is whats best for the country right now so thats who I voted for. But I do agree that for the most part people are going to identify with a party that shares their values both politically and personally.

I think for the purposes of this conversation, people are referring to the republicans who are voting republican most of the time.

I'm always much more disappointed in the Scientologist lists.

P.S.

Since you're such a big fucking fan of Clinton, here you go:

Under Clinton, Yugoslavia was bombed and dismantled as part of what Noam Chomsky described as the "New Military Humanism." Sudan and Afghanistan were attacked, Haiti was destabilized and "free trade" deals like the North America Free Trade Agreement and the General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade radically escalated the spread of corporate-dominated globalization that hurt U.S. workers and devastated developing countries. Clinton accelerated the militarization of the so-called War on Drugs in Central and Latin America and supported privatization of U.S. military operations, giving lucrative contracts to Halliburton and other war contractors. Meanwhile, U.S. weapons sales to countries like Turkey and Indonesia aided genocidal campaigns against the Kurds and the East Timorese.

sssshhhhh devo

pookie is one of those liberals who only sees the world in black and white- the GOP is evil where the Dem's are good. Strangely enough that kind of mentality is what the Neo- Con's are looking for.

:)

Pookie is just a liberal troll. Funny enough I'm more used to right winged trolls.

Whew! That is a lot to digest Devo, I'm not sure I can respond intelligently. But I'll try, one question though? Did Clinton balance the budget?

Aw, fuck, tamatha you're being reasonable. I think I was harking back to what you called out to George.

Then I realized George is a dick.

You win the gold star again. But this time I do not stick the dismount.

David Mamet as a Republican is hard to take too.

....and I care why?

Good move for Bush to get rid of the surplus, I mean really, America don't need no stinking savings account. Because the oil we will get from eye-rock will pay for everything.

@Devo: what specific Clintonites do you have a problem with? Generally speaking, both candidates picked them for their qualifications. Hillary, though, I can agree with you on.

@Pookie: budget surpluses/deficits are pretty minor compared to stuff like deregulation and trade.

@ Pookie: ".....or given a fuck about the military."

BWHAHAHA

Oh wait. You were serious.

Clinton and pretty much everyone he's listed so far as a possible Treasury Secretary,

Where the hell are my fiscal conservative, government out of the bedroom republicans?

We voted for Ron Paul, which got us (survey says?)...another Clinton presidency!!

F'ing status quo loving beezies...

"budget surpluses/deficits are pretty minor compared to stuff like deregulation and trade."

Joe The Plumber

Are you serious Joe? One has a direct affect on the other. The markets have proven that fact clearly. Gas does not go from $5.00 per gallon to $1.75 per gallon over the course of four months without the market being in utter turmoil. With the proper legislation the markets, and trade will be brought under control. That genius that ran for president on the Republican side that the market will self- correct itself without government intervention.

Joe- without a sound fiscal policy we are destined to continue down this road that we are on. We need a big enough stimulus package that can spur the economy, and we will also need deficit spending.

Like I said, I love me some conservative strange.

I never figured Pookie for a policy wonk.

I'll be honest, I had hoped that this thread would yield a tad more name-calling, but I suppose this is better for humanity.

Pooks, I think I'm crushing you back. Also, now I'm convinced you wrote that Post Secret last week about wanting to do a Republican.

TryScience, YAY!!! Let's talk about conservative spending, hm?

And Arr Matey you're a POOP!

Denzel a Christian Conservative? The Denzel who has been cheating on his wife for years? Whatever.

Secondly, he hates Olbermann, which means he is either Independent or Republican. (Pookie)

To hate Olbermann just means the lefties can do better. I see him as the Michael Douglas character from Falling Down. I thought he was going to "Foster" the whole RNC when he was there. Olbermann = Hannity.

As the only liberal in a family of conservatives, I don't really care on which side you are. If you stand for something that's greater than your existence, and you express your thoughts and concerns eloquently, you're a good human being and a wonderful citizen.

That's what my parents taught me, and I love them for it. And so much more.

Seriously Sofia, you went all Linus in A Charlie Brown Christmas on us. It made me smile. Thanks, lady!

thread needs more name calling.

You're all buttholes.

Pooks you sure know how to sweet talk a girl.

How was class today K?

Please humor him K.

So what's the problem with Denzel having a goomah?

Well I had a business that was very profitable then I sold it because I refuse to work myself to death, and these days I hang around the house doing absolutely nothing and I love it.

I hang around the house doing absolutely nothing and I love it.

Rub it in why don't you. Rub. It. In.

But honestly, congrats to that. :)

I'm bipolar

Seriously? Wow. Thanks for sharing. I like this openness from you, Pooks.

Thanks K, I feel like I can be myself around you.

Thanks, Pooks. But now I'm blushing.

That's wonderful, Pooks, glad I can be comforting for you. :)

I can't believe I missed this (sigh).

The parties suck. Even the libertarians put up the worst possible choice this year. Please, if you ever read any of my comments and give them any weight, make it this one: go read and learn about the principles of freedom this country was founded on and why. We have one party that claims it wants social freedom but thinks that we have to give up economic freedom and one that claims it wants economic freedom but thinks we should keep social freedom in check (I'm simplifying). The government grows by taking freedoms, and it always wants to grow, even when it tells you it's going to give you more freedom. It's so hard to get a freedom back once we give it up, and we keep giving them up. God, I wish I were more articulate right now, but don't just listen to what the politicians tell you. The politicians want you to believe that the current economic situation happened because of too much freedom, but the opposite is true. Don't just listen to what I tell you either. Go. Go learn. Tell your friends to do the same. Don't let these bastards enslave us at our own hands.

Yes, Pooks, the change is evident.

My dear meaux I don't like Harper at all. But I didn't care for the Liberal platform and Dion couldn't lead Courtney Love to a blow party.

I don't agree with Layton at all and I can't vote Bloc (racists).

What am I left with? Voting for my MP.

(And no I didn't consider the Green Party).

Now in the interest of entertainment:

Every one who doesn't agree with my opinion is a bitch-ass motherfucker! Yeah you heard me.

Thatta boy!

I know a really sweet (straight) guy who's in love with LC. Things like that really sadden me ya know? The Hills kill, people. It kills souls.

Excuse me everybody but K and I are trying to have a conversation, so can you please give us some time alone and not post any comments. Thank You.

I know, I was just trying to see if the jedi mind trick would work.

Hey, what can I say. I'm just a simple man trying to make my way through the universe.

Pooks, you are an intriguing man.

Yea, that seems about right. Wait, have you made a flying machine?

Dennis Hopper said he decided he would vote for Obama after meeting him in an elevator. Obama asked him how he was doing after his mother passed away. So there ya go. Oh, and as my sis pointed out, Obama is picking all the people he was running against to be in his cabinet so they won't run against him in 4 years. Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.

Clinton's problem was that he was a southern democrat. Way too much Republican tinge in that administration. Deregulation and don't ask don't tell- that's that good ol' boy republican influence for ya.

Dems have a hard time winning / relating in this country because they like this whole THINKING process, they like to work THROUGH answers, snap shots and sound bites don't solve problems so they try to be all intelligent about the issues- in a country that shops at WalMart and thinks it's a deal when they buy $1 toothpaste that can kill you, 99% foreign manufactured goods and in the same moment can't imagine where the jobs have gone and why they can't afford to go to the doctor. Far too close to 51% of this country is fat and stupid and watches Deal or No Deal. It is no wonder to me we've been in a downward spiral since Reagan sold us on the theory that rich people LIKE to share their money!

I'm with tamatha. It says something. Saying you're a Republican in 2008 says one of two things to me- you give two shits less about those pesky "poor" people Jesus liked to talk about or you are two fricking stupid to realize the small government fiscal conservative Republican of Barry Goldwater's era (of which, BTW, you weren't around for unless somehow in my absence here this crowd aged 15-30 years) hasn't existed since Reagan's vacant, pretty boy face won back when I was a youngin'. Either way, it doesn't say anything good about you and I wish you well in your mind-numbing, self centered, "someday I might make enough money for the Republicans in power to care about me!" lives so long as you stay the fuck out of the voting booth for the next decade or two. Go hunt some wolves from a god damn helicopter in Alaska while we try to fix shit in this country for your dumb asses, k? And try not to kick a homeless person on your way out there- they're hurting enough.

For fuck's sake. Someone get Kayanne and Pookie a room already. For the sanity of us all.

This must be depressing for those of you who vote the way Gwyneth Paltrow tells you to.

Mostly, I just wish we could go more than a year without the freakin' government upheaval.

Amen meaux.

Bravo Mike, Bravo.

Pookie, I want to get some things across. First off, sometimes the word cunt is the only word that can do justice to my hatred of someone, if the word cock can exist, it is only fitting to have an equal word for the vagina.

And secondly, my hatred for Olbermann is made clear by my hatred for biased and shitty journalism, which is what MSNBC has devolved into. When you lay down with dogs like FOX, you do wake up with flies. In fact, right now I hate it more than FOX because its creating an almost identical news situation that FOX helped create in the Bush administration by lavishing the administration with endless praise and asking no questions. The only reason you don't see the wolf is because this time it's wearing a sheep costume.

And despite my dissagreements with Dustin over politics, and sometimes even movies, I think he's one of the best movie critic's I've ever seen on the Web. And I hated Bush before it was cool, I really didn't support Kerry, I just hated Bush, I didn't know shit about Kerry, just fucking hated Bush. I always will, I hate him as much as Pete Nanos, who almost cost everyone in my town their jobs.

Right now, I'm holding out to see if Obama will fix things, I supported him from the nomination, but I'm worried none the less. And yes, I'm an independent, with libertarian political beliefs.

George I wasn't trying to start an argument with you about your political beliefs. I know that good people come in all different sizes, colors, and political persuasions. It was funny to me that you would attack Rowles, and in my book you get a gold star for attacking him. George you are a good guy, and if I've offended you in any way please accept my apology.

If there is anyone else I need to apologize to, feel free and step right up.

I was just thinking about you, good morning K.

K, you only have to ask me once to play with you.

ah, dylanj, the clarity of your gender-neutrality in insulting is oh so refreshing, and intelligent too! If you can equate being a 2008 republican and being a good person together, I suppose I should applaud the mental contortions you're capable of. I must simply be too feeble minded after shedding 12+ years from my life to post here to make such leaps possible.

pookie-
It's all good. Actually I thought you were calling me out for being too serious. At any rate, any anger in the posts isn't directed at you, it's at the politicians and the whole situation.

I want an apology. They make me feel powerful.

You know who are a bunch of total assholes?

The goddamn Whigs.

Those dudes are such cockgobblers.

Thanks Pookie, I accept. And I'm glad you wrote that because the last thing we need is more trollish behavior on the internet. Let's make sure that whenever there's an argument, we realize our humanity and move beyond it. I hope we can all learn from that. Have a nice day.

Denzel Washington is a nice guy, he's always buying hospitals for people and building houses and such. He is proof that you can be a Republican and a good person.

"Hope beyond hope"? I'm curious, as a serious question, are there people here who assume that MOST Republicans are crazy evangelical nutbags? Maybe more to the point, are there people who don't?

Autoworkers are making a killing? Are you out of your mind? WHO is making a killing in the auto industry, even when it's failing? I'll answer that for you: the CEOs.

I never liked Vince Vaughn. I always thought there was something creepy about him. Now I know what it is.

Nothing creepy about Vince Vaughn!! Whats up with you people!! The media is so biased on the left! Oh, one doesn't "care" if you aren't a liberal!!
Good for Denzel standing up for what he believes in, you are beaten down in Hollywood if your a wee bit conservative. Wonder how many hop on the band wagon just to keep jobs?

Like the Obama family.....hope they don't sell the Lincoln bedroom to the highest Hollyweird bidder!

Sam Raimi, republican. YES! I am a republican wanting to be a director and Raimi is my favorite director