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Five More Celebrity Women for Whom the Universe Has Developed an Irrational Hatred

By Dustin Rowles | Posted Under Seriously Random Lists | Comments (111)



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A year ago this month, we posted a Seriously Random List that examined five women and the reasons why we/you/the world despise them. Some of the disdain seemed irrational. Some of it, perhaps, warranted. But that hatred was strong. Last year, those five women were Jennifer Aniston, Katherine Heigl, Megan Fox, Gwyneth Paltrow, and Sarah Jessica Parker.

It’s a new year. And like Hollywood, for better or worse (or worse or more worse), it’s out with the old, and in with new celebrity women with whom we can barely justify our hatred. Again, I’m not abdicating responsibility (except for numbers four and five down there, with whom I have nothing against) or trying to excuse, justify, or absolve our role. But of this new generation of celebrity women, I’ll ask the same question I asked last year: Why? Why do we hate these five women so much? Why do we often wish them harm? It’s too easy and misguided to blame it on sexism: That may play a role in some of it, but these five women are generally regarded just as poorly by other women. I want to explore that hatred, hopefully with a modicum of reason and logic. I’m putting that question to our readers to help explain it.

91748.jpgLea Michele: Ms. Michelle is perhaps the easiest to justify, if only because Courtney wrote a withering piece on why it is we do hate her: “Basically, she’s an asshole. The kind desperate to have attention poured on her, accolades thrown like roses and to not have to get that by being kind. It started when she was an annoying idiot to a photographer because he had the unmitigated gall to not know her name. Ever since then, it’s been tale after tale of “Lea Michele’s a big bitch, Lea Michele is trying so hard to be famous, she makes that blonde chick from new 90210 look subtle, Lea Michele makes little girls cry.” Sure, most people only get into this industry to be famous but look at her face. Every single picture. She will gnaw the fame out of your neck if you try to hide it from her. And there’ve been more than a few reports about how much she hates her co-stars getting HER attention ….”

Fair enough. I get it. But it’s not universal. It can’t be. “Glee” is hugely popular, even to a small extent on this site. Someone out there must love her, so maybe the better question here is: Why do you love her? And can’t we at least chalk up some of her actions to the stupidity of youth?

blake-lively-hate.jpgBlake Lively: Ms. Lively is new to the hate, and much of that can be attributed to her heinous performance in Green Lantern. But even before then, the public had turned against her. Not because of “Gossip Girl,” because not enough people even watch that to justify hatred en masse. It really started with her small but underwhelming role in an otherwise excellent film, The Town, and the fact that the gig got her the Green Lantern role. Even then, it was more the fact someone from “Gossip Girl” and The Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants could be cast in The Town or The Green Lantern that upset people. The performances in both, unfortunately, proved those upset people correct. She’s not a very good actress, but as a person, I’m not familiar with anything that might warrant such an irrational hatred.

january-jones-hate.jpgJanuary Jones: Jones is this year’s Katherine Heigl, and we have certainly contributed to the wellspring of disdain. But most of that is by bringing to attention all the things that make her awful. Joanna never seems to have a shortage of material with which to justify our intense dislike. It doesn’t help that she was bad in X-Men: First Class (I actually found her more soulless than Blake Lively in GL). But we must concede that, before we found out she was an awful person, we’d already made up our mind about her because she plays an awful person on “Mad Men” so convincingly. It’s quite possible that it’s just her natural personality.

natalie-zea-hate.jpgWinona Hawkins: Maybe I’m stretching here because the (irrational) hatred is built solely around a character in a TV show and not the actress herself, but it is intense and it is unwarranted for all the reason that Dan Saipher described. Obviously, I love the woman . I wonder if something that snaphiss wrote contains any truth to it: “I’m willing to bet most of the people that hate Winona are female viewers. It reminds me a little of the Cuddy haters, like these women characters are somehow poaching on the super fan’s men.” The commentary I see in regard to Winona Hawkins reminds me a lot of what I’ve read written about the three women above, Jennifer Aniston, and even Katherine Heigl.

lady-gaga2.jpgLady Gaga: This one I don’t understand enough to get. Whenever her name is mentioned here or elsewhere, the claws come out. Best I can tell, she’s Madonna 2.0, who happens to wear coats made of meat. But her music isn’t bad. It’s just derivative. I think she simply makes people feel uncomfortable, and for what reason, I’m not sure. People didn’t feel this way about Madonna until much later in her career (mostly, after she became British). Gaga holds political positions with which most of us agree (she even came out to Maine, of all places, to lobby for the repeal of Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell), she’s provocative, and she’s sexy without being traditionally attractive. I feel like this is something we should be celebrating. And the younger generation is. It’s mostly people over the age of 30 that have turned against her, and instead of being based in reality, the irrational hatred seems built around a Get Off My Lawn mentality and a lack of understanding. Come on folks, don’t be your parents. At least built a solid foundation for your dislike.









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Comments

I find Lady Gaga disturbing because no man should be that good at hiding their junk.

Posted by: the_wakeful at June 21, 2011 2:59 PM

Nice nip slip in that header pic!

Posted by: sean at June 21, 2011 3:02 PM

Is that a little nip in the header pic? The Link Wench will certainly find a reason to not hate her if that's the case.

Posted by: Codeman at June 21, 2011 3:03 PM

I like Lady Gaga...but I'm also not over thirty.

Posted by: Candee at June 21, 2011 3:03 PM

I have no hatred for any of them. Possibly because I don't watch any of them except Hawkins. Hawkins is just an actress on TV to me.

The Glee girl may indeed be a bitch but it is refreshing to see a girl that is not a size 0 starring in something.

Posted by: logan at June 21, 2011 3:03 PM

I just saw First Class, and January seemed fine to me, if maybe a little dull. I thought Halle Berry was much worse in X1 and X2.

Posted by: Lauren at June 21, 2011 3:04 PM

I don't like Lady Gaga because I find her phony and disingenuous. She presents herself as high art when her music is anything but. She's derivative, egotistical, and highly overrated IMO. I hate the idea that her activism precludes her from being criticized. When I say that I don't care for Lady Gaga or her shallow, insipid music, people think I am somehow criticizing her activism. There is a difference between being skeptical of her motives and outright condemning her for it. Also, she talks like a cult leader, and it kind of freaks me out to see grown ass people calling a 24 year old their "mother".

I am under 30, for the record (for three months more at least...).

Posted by: icicle at June 21, 2011 3:08 PM

Lea Michelle: hot flavor of the month desperately trying to be something more.

Blake Lively: extremely attractive but hasn't displayed any talent to earn her status (this year's Megan Fox).

January Jones: I think people believe she's not a good enough actress to be faking her bitchiness but is just rather taking her own personality and using it in her roles.

Winona: Duh! She's got The Olyphant in her bed and she's not even cool like Ava. Jealousy and rage ensue.

Lady Gaga: pretentious and desperate to prove she's more than a studio-made star.

Posted by: Fredo at June 21, 2011 3:08 PM

Every male Justified fan I know hates Winona. Are they secretly harboring a man crush on The Olyphant? Perhaps.

She still sucks, and my hatred is rational.

Posted by: Mel C. at June 21, 2011 3:08 PM

"...sexy without being conventionally attractive."

What? White girl with blonde hair and a coke bottle body? Wow, how unconventional /snark.

I'm pretty much astounded at how hated some famous women are, it requires too much personal investment. When it comes to Lady Gaga, I don't hate her, I just think she's a derivative fraud which is unfortunate, because she's actually kinda talented.

Posted by: Rest In Peace at June 21, 2011 3:09 PM

I dislike Lady Gaga for a few reasons. Number one, she's arrogant and self-important to an alarming degree, even for a famous musician. She actually doesn't think her music or her ideas are derivative. She thinks she's breaking new ground. Number two, her music and her clothes and her performances are not only bad, but have an annoying capacity to be memorable. And the worst part about it is that you can tell that Gaga is a talented person. She could be better. I don't know, her whole personality grates on me. I've got no problems with the rest of the women on this list, with the possible exception of Lea (such is my scorn for Glee).

Posted by: jmag at June 21, 2011 3:10 PM

I think women can be just as sexist as men.

Posted by: ERM at June 21, 2011 3:10 PM

Mr. Julien and I heard the perfect description of Lady Gaga this past weekend: She's Marilyn Manson for teenage girls.

Posted by: Mrs. Julien at June 21, 2011 3:12 PM

I am over 30 and I love Lady Gaga. Her self-awareness and desire to be so fucking out there reminds of a little of Fooly Cooly.

I understand the dislike for BL and JJ because they are awful actresses who seem to be gaining success and fame in inverse proportion to their talent. That is irksome.

Hatred for a character is kind of ridiculous unless it translates into hatred for the actor. I hate the character of Joffrey on Game of Thrones (so fucking much), but I love the actor playing him for making me hate his character so much.

And I love Lea Michele. I was surprised when I heard that there was hatred of her at all. I think she is Tracy Flick IRL and unapologetic about it. Perhaps if I followed gossip more closely, I'd become overwhelmed and my feelings would morph into annoyance and dislike. But at the moment, I respect her ambition, I admire her talent and I think she's pretty hot. People tended to think Tracy Flick was the bad guy in Election. She was more or less presented that way, but really, she was just about the only person worthy of praise or respect. Similar to this list.

Posted by: Blair at June 21, 2011 3:12 PM

I don't hate any of these people. I can't stand Gaga's music, but she definitely doesn't inspire hatred. Am I out of the loop now? Have we grown apart, Pajiba?

Posted by: jamiepants at June 21, 2011 3:13 PM

Ummm...that nipple in the header pic. It's not safe for work.

Posted by: superasente at June 21, 2011 3:15 PM

1. Can't act
2. Can't act
3. Can't act and I've seen more emotion from the frozen corpse of that hobo from the down the street that I keep in my freezer.
4. Haven't gotten that far yet. Judgment reserved.
5. Exactly. Madonna 2.0 but thinks a whole heaping fuckton of herself for recycling someone else' schtick.

I don't hate any of them though. They more like a bowl of plain oatmeal. They're there if you want them, but there are so many better items to consume.

Posted by: admin at June 21, 2011 3:18 PM

1. Yuck. I don't even watch Glee, but yeah, she just comes off as a total fame-whore.
2. I actually think Blake Lively is really pretty and seems kind of nice and down-to-earth in interviews. Can't speak to her acting abilities, though. See, when I think something is going to be bad, I just don't watch it.
3. No real opinion.
4. Who?
5. I'm 35, and Gaga is pretty much awesome. Batshit crazy, but awesome. Although I'm starting to get a little tired of her schtick.

I still loathe Jennifer Aniston.

Posted by: Samantha at June 21, 2011 3:18 PM

BTW, is it any surprise that these lists are often comprised of women who could be described as "bland" or "vanilla"? Honestly, what is Lady Gaga without her make-up team and her auto-tune producers? Does anyone look at January Jones twice if they're walking down the street?

I think that's the biggest gripe: they're interchangeable with last year's models. There's few ounces of uniqueness, individuality or charm in them.

Posted by: Fredo at June 21, 2011 3:19 PM

Ummm...that nipple in the header pic. It's not safe for work.

Totally missed that. Thanks for the head's up!

As for hatred... I don't hate any of these people. In fact, I don't think I have seen any of the moives or TV shows that any of the actresses are in. Hopefully, I will see January Jones in X-Men in the next few days.

As for Lady Gaga, I barely know her music and what I've heard seems innocent enough.

Posted by: Forbiddendonut at June 21, 2011 3:19 PM

a) the might NOT be a nipple, it could be a shadow.

b) if it IS a nipple. . . hell, even Lizzie Borden had nipples.

c) bottom line. . .HAAAAAATE.

Posted by: Joanna Robinson at June 21, 2011 3:20 PM

Also Randy Newman has nipples. . .so. . .I'm just saying.

Posted by: Joanna Robinson at June 21, 2011 3:22 PM

I don't particularly hate any of these women. I think that most of them have questionable talent, but what else is new?

A note on the Lea Michelle thing. I saw her in Spring Awakening and she was awesome. Hers is a common story of too much coming too soon. Fame and popularity as Rachel on Glee have totally ruined her. Every person I know in the industry who has worked with her has said she was unbearable and a bitch. And where I used to love listening to her sing ("Mama Who Bore Me" is awesome), she's been directed (or making terrible personal choices) to overdo everything now. She is currently incapable of doing a song without looking like she's crying or in pain. Woman. Smile. Enjoy yourself. Fame is fleeting.

Posted by: KatSings at June 21, 2011 3:22 PM

I just saw Lady Gaga on the Graham Norton Show and found her...charming (still hate her music, though). Then again, Gwyneth Paltrow was on the same episode and I didn't hate her as much as I usually do, so there might have been a Graham Norton effect going on.

Posted by: Lee at June 21, 2011 3:23 PM

Boo new header pic.

Posted by: THRILLHO at June 21, 2011 3:24 PM

It's not even derivative to a fault. Gaga is intentionally fucking with the pop music audience. Her shit that sounds like other shit is designed to get a rise out of music snobs and subvert expectations of dumb pop fans. Her word play is strong and she can sing, dance, and perform like no one else in her age group. You can't hate manufactured pop acts for being derivative and hate a pop act whose sole purpose is to fuck with those derivative and sell that shit to the radio. You can't. It's like saying you hate Michael Bay for making everything a mindless blow-up session but then saying you admire his ability to blow shit up in every movie. It's a blatant contradiction.

Lea Michele, though? Stone cold bitch. And yes, I know it from personal experience. We were hustling auditions at the same time in NYC and she was nasty to anyone she thought couldn't advance her career. She's talented, but her attitude will destroy her career if she doesn't learn to check herself.

Posted by: Robert at June 21, 2011 3:27 PM

Also Randy Newman has nipples. . .so. . .I'm just saying.
Posted by: Joanna Robinson at June 21, 2011 3:22 PM

Yes, but can you milk them?

Posted by: Codeman at June 21, 2011 3:28 PM

I don't care about Lady Gaga's music. Her personal appearance, photo shoots and, most particularly, music videos upset me tremendously. The sexualized violence/violent sex imagery make me sad and disheartened. I genuinely worry about the children who see it. I used to watch Madonna and think, "Exactly how much attention do you need?". Lady Gaga makes Madonna look like an agoraphobic noviate.

Posted by: Mrs. Julien at June 21, 2011 3:29 PM

Sorry - I'll ban myself after that last comment.

Posted by: Codeman at June 21, 2011 3:29 PM

I don't hate Lady Gaga, I'm just baffled that she's so huge, considering that her music is just mediocre pop.

January Jones is a lousy actress, but I don't hate her, personally.

I've never seen the other three in anything. I will say, though, that I don't think Blake Lively is especially attractive. She's got the tall slim blonde thing that seems to automatically indicate hotness in our culture, but facially she's sort of, well, plain.

Posted by: Todd at June 21, 2011 3:35 PM

After much soul searching, I have found my problem with Blake Lively. She doesn't deserve the attention she receives. There is no charisma, no charm, no personality. She's just a pretty package of nothing. It's like she's full of packing peanuts. The casting couch should not be the ONLY reason a person is famous but I suspect it is in her case.

Posted by: SwedishAcid at June 21, 2011 3:35 PM

I must be slipping because I don't hate any of them. Not even Lively or Jones. I guess I'm blinded by their hotness. Wait, you mean to tell me that attractive women have gotten reasonably far in Hollywood?? Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?

Posted by: junierizzle at June 21, 2011 3:37 PM

I'm over forty and I don't care enough about Gaga to hate her. As for the other four, I have no idea who they are. The only reference I recognized relative to any of them was "this year's Katherine Heigl," which I guess is reason enough.

Posted by: Jerry at June 21, 2011 3:40 PM

What nipple! I don’t see no fucking nipple! Don't joke about the nipple!


p.s. yes, why would anyone in their right mind want to hate those beautiful Anglo Saxon white women? Jeez Rowles, what, drooling over pictures of McAbs don’t do it for you anymore?

Posted by: Pookie at June 21, 2011 3:40 PM

I just saw Lady Gaga on the Graham Norton Show and found her...charming (still hate her music, though). Then again, Gwyneth Paltrow was on the same episode and I didn't hate her as much as I usually do, so there might have been a Graham Norton effect going on.

It had to be the Norton effect, because there is really no celeb who sets my teeth on edge more then Ms. Platrow and even I thought she seemed almost human.
I'm almost 50 and like Gaga.

I think JJ gets the hate for the same reason Evangeline Lilly (soon to be elf who has set off the Hobbit fanboys with rage.) gets it. Neither is a very good actress who are treated like great actresses. Jesus, JJ even made Pirate Radio come to a complete halt once she opened her mouth.

Posted by: Jules at June 21, 2011 3:41 PM

Lea Michelle - Don't watch, don't care.

Blake Lively - she was definitely the weak link in The Town. That's all I know her in.

January Jones - Don't watch Mad Men but she was boring as Emma Frost and that's kind of hard to do one would think. So I guess she gets backhanded kudos for that one.

Winona - she's a manipulative bitch, but I like her. Raylan needs someone he can't manipulate to play off of. They are evenly matched. Raylan being in love with her shows just how screwed up he really is. As this season showed, it's a damn lot.

Lady Gaga - I like her. She is Madonna 2.0, some of her music is good, her HBO live show was pretty great, and she's always being pretentious and weird and entertaining. Like Madonna.

Posted by: TylerDFC at June 21, 2011 3:44 PM

I love Lady GaGa. True, she abuses the whole "I was bullied and now I cry whenever I get an award because I adore my fans" thing (a.k.a. pulling a Taylor Swift), but she goes out of her way to try to give meaning to what she does. She takes the time to let her fans know that she appreciates them and that they should feel good about being who they are. I don't always approve of the way she says things, and sometimes she appears to take herself too seriously, but she's still young.

She may wear a meat dress, but at least she showers. (I'm looking at you, Ke$ha)

Posted by: Sofia at June 21, 2011 3:45 PM

Lady Gaga is abhorrent and annoying for the same reasons as Marilyn Manson or Alice Cooper -- they're shocking people for the shock of it, not for a reason. She should be called Lady Dada. David Bowie challenged sexual norms as he lived an abnormal sexual lifestyle. Madonna was similar, as was Freddie Mercury. It was their honesty about themselves that makes their music matter. Lady Gaga smashes all of their schticks together the way Manson did with Ozzy, Bowie, and Alice Cooper (himself manufactured), and turns everything up to 11 to manufacture record sales. She simply isn't that person. She's Vanessa Carlton pretending to be Madonna Bowie. I think the people who have a problem with her are the same people who have a problem with most pop music, and she represents everything that's wrong with the genre, whereas someone like Pink represents everything that can be good about it. Music should be about honesty, about bearing your soul, not creating a character to hide that soul. When Bowie was Ziggy, we met another side of Bowie. When Stefani Germanotta is Gaga, we don't see past the curtain. Plus, that superdancepop shit is just disco repackaged, yet again. It has never been good and never will be.

Posted by: puppetDoug at June 21, 2011 3:45 PM

Five male actors I irrationally hate:

1- Jason Schwartzman

2- Owen Wilson

3- Hugh Grant

4- Ricky Gervais (aka Hugh Grant 2.0)

5- Russell Brand

Posted by: John W at June 21, 2011 3:46 PM

I feel like Blake Lively's personality is summed up by her expression in this photo... Hence my dislike:

http://bit.ly/jN63dH

Bitch, why your skin so tiiiiiiight?!

Posted by: Lisa Bee at June 21, 2011 3:47 PM

"After much soul searching, I have found my problem with Blake Lively. She doesn't deserve the attention she receives. There is no charisma, no charm, no personality. She's just a pretty package of nothing. It's like she's full of packing peanuts. The casting couch should not be the ONLY reason a person is famous but I suspect it is in her case." Exactly.

I'm over 30 and love Lady Gaga, I appreciate her desire to be out there and embrace the weird. Unlike Kesha she actually can sing. Her progressive views on politics and how the fact that she is committed to them is admirable. Suck it haters, she's the only one on this list that will still be around in 5 years.

I think I hate Lively the most, though I dont think it's irrational. She is completely overrated and not pretty enough or talented enough to convince me otherwise.

Posted by: Melody Be at June 21, 2011 3:51 PM

I've decided not to hate anymore. Hate leads to suffering, you know.

Posted by: MM at June 21, 2011 3:52 PM

Y'all know me. I reserve my irrational hatreds for food, music, and movies, not the chefs, musicians, or filmmaking cast/crew, and even then it's often with tongue in cheek.

Blake Lively showed she has some acting chops in The Town.

I was subjected that Lady Gaga HBO special. I did find her shtick a little grating, and her music does absolutely nothing for me. That said, I'll give her props for the activism. Her superstar status has granted her a gigantic megaphone, and I respect her for using it in a positive way to influence people. Not all stars step up like that.

The other three I haven't seen enough to form an opinion.

Posted by: DarthCorleone at June 21, 2011 3:53 PM

If you REALLY want to explore LEA MICHELE hatred it is easy. Google gossips vs fans testimonies. You shold try and see. SO MUCH possitive DIRECT meeting with Lea (so much respect and love from fans) via tumblr and twitter. Versus same old 2 gossips aka "insiders rumours" (photographer and Hailee S. fangirling Lea). In both oportunities Lea aproached them and apologies (photo included and twitter proof).
A LOT of pics of Lea and castmates and crews (BTS were she is unawares of fans videos) were you can see frienship and love. Search latest videos of the Glee Live tour and you will find partnership and balance.

You said "she hates her co-stars getting HER attention ….” NOT TRUE. Search her twiter comments and latest interviews. So much respect to Chris Colfer, Naya Rivera, Amber R. Jane Lynch, among others.

I´m not a teen not a fangirl but I did the researsh myself and this is what I found

Posted by: Mili at June 21, 2011 3:54 PM

My reactions to these people:
Meh.
Who?
Who??
Who???
Meh.

Posted by: Lindsey with an 'e' at June 21, 2011 3:57 PM

People always make the Gaga/Madonna comparison as if it's a given that we all loved Madonna and why can't we love Gaga.
I'm proof that we didn't all love Madonna. I hated her and her attention-seeking schtick from the get-go. I hated her stupid pop songs (not written by her). I hated her moronic videos. I hated her sartorial idiocy. Always have. Still do.
Hence, I hate Gaga for all the same reasons (rumor has it she writes her own songs but they all sound auto-tuned so I'm not buying it).

Posted by: PaddyDog at June 21, 2011 3:57 PM

I don't hate any of them. I find Gaga tiresome, but I like some of her songs. I believe the stories about Lea Michele being a jerk, but I don't have to deal with her, so I don't care.

As for the others--mostly, I just get annoyed that women get so little respect in Hollywood that no-talent, blandly attractive starlets are still handed huge careers because their vapid gazes and perky boobs please the dudebro demographic, while real actresses struggle to find decent roles. But I don't blame the starlets themselves for taking advantage of the system. I'd probably do the same thing if I could.

It does disturb me that female stars get so much hate just for saying dumb things or being too thin or whatever, while male stars' bad behavior is mostly overlooked or quickly forgotten about, even, in some cases, when they've committed *actual crimes.*

(And Dustin, methinks you need to Google "internalized misogyny." Women being sexist towards other women is indeed A Thing.)

Posted by: T at June 21, 2011 4:02 PM

My beautiful, nickle-sized nipples are engorged with buttery-sweet milk. Come to me and be showered by them.*

Posted by: Randy Newman at June 21, 2011 4:06 PM

*[funnier if read in Randy Newman's voice]

Posted by: Randy Newman at June 21, 2011 4:06 PM

I’m not crazy about Madonna either, but at lest she brought talent to the table. This Gaga broad is all schtick and no substance. If my life depended on it, I could at lest sing a few words to a couple of Madonna songs to save my life.

Posted by: Pookie at June 21, 2011 4:07 PM

I hate January Jones for one reason and one reason only: she got to rub up on Don Draper. Andi I will never get to.

Posted by: Mona Sterling at June 21, 2011 4:16 PM

Listen Randy Newman, you have the sensibilities of an alley cat. Shut your whore mouth and go play your deviant sexually charged games somewhere else. This is not some Sodom and Gomorrah pleasure den, we critique film and its meaning on society here. You are a jackal that lays with any filthy beast that shows you her nectar. Your bloodline is filled with reprobates.

Posted by: Pookie at June 21, 2011 4:18 PM

Well, now, here I go again, not hating any of these women. Or should I say... PEOPLE.

I think it's rampant misogyny, pure and simple. People love to hate women who have got UPPITY. "Hey, bitch, we let you get rich and famous, now grovel and be HUMBLE about it."

Fuck all y'all motherfuckers. They're not playing by the rules you fucking assholes have set down. Live with it.

Posted by: Maryscott O'Connor at June 21, 2011 4:21 PM

I don't get why people hate on Winona. I find her to be a decent foil for Raylan, since she doesn't just do whatever he decrees. Yes, this last season she got whiny and stupid, but Ava's always been whiny and stupid. Not to mention Ava was all "No crimes Boyd!" then she was like, "Oh, there's cash in it? I'm in!" Stupid cow. She deserves what she gets.

Posted by: TWoPFan at June 21, 2011 4:28 PM

Oh, come on! Lady GaGa can sing. True, she's no Aretha Franklin (nobody is), but she has a good voice and she can play the piano like it's nobody's business.

Posted by: Sofia at June 21, 2011 4:29 PM

"Hey, bitch, we let you get rich and famous, now grovel and be HUMBLE about it."

Posted by: Maryscott O'Connor at June 21, 2011 4:21 PM

Damn O'Connor! You got some pimp's blood in you. If I were a female and I was fresh on the stroll it would have been an honor to be your bottom bitch.

Posted by: Pookie at June 21, 2011 4:30 PM

25, gay, liberal, hate Lady Gaga.

Generic musics. Attention whore. Overrated. Etc...

Seriously like supporting things that shouldn't exist is reason to champion her. "I think racism is bad."

Call me a hero and role model now please.

Posted by: googergieger at June 21, 2011 4:31 PM

I think that most of the reports about Lea Michele being a bitch are baseless. I follow her and most of the Glee kids on twitter- early 20's, leave me alone!- and they come across as being great friends, always going out to eat, etc. However, I do confess a hatred for Lady Gaga. I like most of the songs that she puts out but I can't stand how she's a "fashion icon" for wearing meat, etc. She's outlandish- but not naturally. It all comes across as very staged, which is annoying, because she then makes a big deal about being different and groundbreaking- but it all seems so fake and just for attention. She's popular enough that her music can stand on its own and there's no need for the theatrics.

Posted by: Ashley at June 21, 2011 4:46 PM

I think that most of the hatred for Gaga springs from the same fountain that feeds the hatred for Lea Michele. Both are raging famewhores, but only Gaga is unashamed about it. That might lead people to be a little more forgiving because, hey, at least she's honest, right?

Instead, though, she has absolutely worn everyone to the bone with her, "look at me, look at me" bullshit. That egg thing at the Grammys was the last straw for me. I don't hate her, but I am unutterably wearied of her.

Posted by: noodlestein at June 21, 2011 4:57 PM

I hate Lady Gaga for a few reasons. Her music tends to be tired retreads of music others have done better. The silly outfits. The pretentious performance art attitude. The fact that she reminds me less of shocking Madonna and more of trying really really really hard to be shocking Marilyn Manson.

But I pretty much hate her for the same reason I hate Will Ferrell: she can do so much better. I've heard tracks from her albums that are so much better than the club crap like "Poker Face" and "Bad Romance." I've seen her actually being charming and funny in interviews and on SNL. She doesn't need the fucking "Gaga" bit to sell records any more than Will Ferrell needs the arrogant moron schtick, but they both do it anyways.

That's why I hate her. She could do so much better. She just won't.

Posted by: Harborwolf at June 21, 2011 5:01 PM

. Best I can tell, she’s Madonna 2.0, w

Eh no. She is Marilyn Manson 2.0


she’s provocative, and she’s sexy without being traditionally attractive
Let's ditch the pc thing. She is ugly. Ugly as hell

Posted by: Yesplease at June 21, 2011 5:06 PM

I hope T and I can be bestest friend foreh-vahr, we obviously have the exact same brain.

Posted by: Rest In Peace at June 21, 2011 5:06 PM

Lea Michelle is grating because of the way she's been treated by the Glee people. I'm sure pre-Glee she was perfectly fine.

Boobs Legsley can't act to save her soul. Ohter than that, she's fine.

January Jones is wooden, stiff, and bland.

I know nothing of Winona.

Gaga finds herself more important than she is. She is Madonna 2.0, but she's not as good as Madonna was. Madonna was capable of reinventing herself to an insane degree without resorting to some new ridiculous costume or what have you. I remain unconvinced that Gaga is nothing more than an average pop star with a penchant for ridiculous costumes.


Posted by: Melody at June 21, 2011 5:18 PM

@TWoPFan: /fist bump

Posted by: Tracer Bullet at June 21, 2011 5:21 PM

Gaga can sing, play the piano and I think she is talented. Now, is she self absorbed and pretentious beyond all get out? Hell yes! She just looks like she is trying so hard to be out there. "Look at me, I am sooo unconventional and extravagant! Nobody gets me, but you do don't you my little monsters?"
She reminds me of the non conformist goths from South Park.
Lately her rants literally sound like Charlie Sheen on a bender.
I saw her Poker Face video recently and I was like damn, she was so close to normal. I miss people dancing in jeans and tank top so bad. I am so over the freakin leotards!

Posted by: daria at June 21, 2011 5:26 PM

I love Lady Gaga.
I'm 32, female and a goddamn commie.
I think she's fun. I don't take her too seriously, hell - I grew up with Color Me Badd and NKOTB...she's not half as detrimental to the soul as those groups were.
I WAS SUPPOSED TO HAVE MARRIED JOEY MCINTYRE, DAMMIT.

Posted by: SPAGHATTAH NADLE (formerly popejenm) at June 21, 2011 5:26 PM

I just want to say a big BWAHAHAHAHA to whomever it was on this thread that called Madonna "talented" and "honest about herself". For heaven's sake, she waited two or three hit albums before she hired a voice* coach so she could finally sound like she hit puberty. Protip: if twelve-year-old girls like a song, that song is by definition TERRIBLE. As for the "honesty" part, Madonna was "upfront about her sexuality" (slutting around 80% naked wherever she could get away with it and talking about sex for no reason) because it was the only way for her to get famous.

* I accidentally typed "vice coach". Like she needed help in THAT area.

Posted by: Three-nineteen at June 21, 2011 5:26 PM

I have no idea who the first three hookers are, they done any porn? As for Winona Hawkins, one of THE. WORST. PEOPLE. (as a TV character) ever portrayed on TV. Right up there with that lipstick lesbo from Caprica and the constipated abusive-mom/terrible detective in The Killing.

And Lady Gaga is a dude.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at June 21, 2011 5:34 PM

Oh! And the claim to be so real with the very very obvious nose job.

Posted by: daria at June 21, 2011 5:40 PM

Gaga is intentionally fucking with the pop music audience. Her shit that sounds like other shit is designed to get a rise out of music snobs and subvert expectations of dumb pop fans. Her word play is strong and she can sing, dance, and perform like no one else in her age group. You can't hate manufactured pop acts for being derivative and hate a pop act whose sole purpose is to fuck with those derivative and sell that shit to the radio.

Oh my God, someone else gets it.

Seriously though, the Madonna argument seems to be everyone's trump card regarding whether or not Gaga is worthy of her success and acclaim, but in fact it's a really tired and shallow argument. OF COURSE she apes Madonna. That's the point. Her performance is fame and celebrity -- not music. She deliberately mimics the ploys conducted by the most famous pop stars preceding her, and her music is not really anything special because it doesn't have to be. It's catchy enough to not be absurd on the radio, but it's not required of her to break new ground in pop because she's just as famous when she doesn't.

Even so, in an a capella or acoustic sing-off, Lady Gaga would beat the shit out of Madonna every time. People talk about Madonna like she's the original to Gaga's carbon copy, but Madonna herself has a pretty long track record of "borrowing" ideas from other places. What makes her so suddenly untouchable, as if paying homage to her career is sacrilegious? People didn't seem to mind when Britney referenced Madonna, but when Gaga does and takes it to the level of absurd, she is scorned?

One last point - Lady Gaga is 25 years old and has reached this astronomical level of success in less than three years. Her first album came out in 2008. When people compare her to Madonna, they tend to think of Madonna's whole career, which isn't exactly fair to Gaga, since Madonna improved and matured exponentially compared to when she first started out. So to even the playing field, compare Gaga's work against, say, "Holiday," "Lucky Star," "Get Into the Groove," and "Like a Virgin." Yes, those are classics now, but I think we'd be a bit disingenuous if we suggested that at the time people thought of those songs as the works of a truly talented musician with oodles of longevity.

Posted by: Amanda6 at June 21, 2011 5:53 PM

I don't get Lady Gaga really. I like her fashion sense to a point, but her music, which is kind of catchy at first listen becomes like nails jabbing into your eardrums and bleeding profusely. Then for some odd reason she starts sounding like Katy Perry trying way too hard to be...punk? Or perhaps a derivative of punk? See, I get it but to get it past the age of 30 you're well into the realm of being the most annoying 30 year old this side of the Mississippi River.

Posted by: Gigi at June 21, 2011 5:56 PM

I hate the way women turn on eachother and are pitted against eachother. It's so catty and unnecessary. But it is what it is. And in a massive fit of hypocrisy, I'll join in....

1. I love Leah Michelle, she's the most talented thing on Glee by a mile and she was superb in Spring Awakening. Yes she's a bit of a "lovie" type, but a lot of people immersed in that theatre world are. Her Glee character is meant to be annoying and (as someone else already pointed out) Tracy Flick-esque. Maybe by extension people find her annoying too.

2.Blake Lively is the only one on this list who truly annoys me (probably because I want her hair so so so badly). She's had so much plastic surgery to look as conventional as possible and she seems quite shameless when it comes to getting what she wants. I don't think it's good for other women when it seems the only way of getting ahead is to jack up your fake tits, go after famous guys (married or otherwise) to make a name for yourself when there is very little talent backing it all up. I love Gossip Girl- it's my guilty pleasure- and there's a reason her character has been sidelined for Chuck and Blair's weekly melodrama, she has zero screen presence and charisma. No-one cares about Serena because she doesn't make them care.

3. I have no problem with January Jones, even though she was awful in X men. Richard Curtis must like her as she had roles in Love Actually and The Boat That Rocked, so she can't be evil or anything. She's exactly as good as she needs to be in Mad Men and some of her film choices are interesting - The Three Buriels Of Melquiada Estrada?- plus I like that she's proved her ex boyfriend Ashton Kutcher wrong by making something of herself (he told her she'd never amount to anything, also, he's a douche). Yes she seems like kind of a bitch, but who isn't? At least she's not a bitch who pretends to be little miss sunshine.

4.I haven't seen Justified (don't hate me, I'll watch it I swear!)

5. If you hate Lady Gaga I don't want to know you. She's made pop music fun again, and she's a seriously talented musician and performer. I don't really care about her politics (even though they're all y'know, GOOD) as an artist, she's undeniable. Her song Hair is what I currently belt out in the shower. So what if she takes herself too seriously? At the moment, no-one else comes close. I can't even comprehend any hate.

Oh, so actually I don't really hate any of these women. Some women I do hate; Paris Hilton, any of the Hills twats, Jessica Simpson (hate girls who pretend to be dumb for a living). At least the women on this list have jobs.

Posted by: Katie at June 21, 2011 5:58 PM

The only one I find mildly annoying is January Jones. But for what she does on Mad Men she is just fine.

I don't watch Glee.

I don't watch...whatever show Blake Lively is on.

I don't know who Winona Hawkins is.

I like Gaga. She's so off the wall. She's like a three dimensional cartoon character. She's weird. Kinda fun. Completely insane. I know she can be a bit much at times but I don't have to live with her.

I might slightly hate the new chick in the Transformers movie because she is banging Statham. But it's more an awe-struck envious kind of hate. Like if I met her, I might curtsey or something.

Posted by: greer at June 21, 2011 5:59 PM

Ooooh and Lyndsay Lohan. There aren't enough words to describe the HATE.

Posted by: Katie at June 21, 2011 5:59 PM

Nice nip slip in that header pic!

I assume this was changed since I don't see it now. Oh well

Posted by: Brian at June 21, 2011 6:07 PM

Okay, okay, let's not confuse the thing by bringing Madonna into it. They are BOTH pop trash Lord Gaga and her Vadgesty BOTH of them. Like someone said up there, if the music you listen to is loved by 12-year olds, you are basically listening to poo.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at June 21, 2011 6:09 PM

a Get Off My Lawn mentality and a lack of understanding.

No, she's an asshole. I understand that.

Posted by: Jay at June 21, 2011 6:09 PM

"Madonna was capable of reinventing herself to an insane degree without resorting to some new ridiculous costume or what have you."

Yeah, but every time she reinvented herself, she was still kind of an asshole.

For the record, I turn 40 this year. I've always hated Madonna, but I find Lady GaGa oddly endearing. Even at her weirdest, I just shake my head and go, "Oh, LaGaGa," ("LaGaGa" being my pet name for her in this imaginary world where we hang out and drink smoothies) "you little scamp."

Posted by: Craig at June 21, 2011 6:10 PM

I loved Blake Lively in The Town, and she was surprisingly strong as an SNL host.

I hate Gaga because I find her music equal parts obnoxious, repetetive, and unimaginative. If she were an Eastern European dance pop artist ten years ago, no one would care about her at all. Go back and download some Czech techno from, like, 1999, then listen to "Bad Romance" and see if you can tell the difference. So everyone who tries so hard to pass her off as a music icon or whatever is full of shit. I find her "shocking" personality and outfits completely idiotic. It's like that girl who was a shy nerd in high school until she found herself in a Hot Topic and realized that being garish and bubbly would make people look at her, and possibly even want to have sex with her (guys do this too, but usually more out of anger than misplaced attention). Her voice is barely passable at best, and she's all flash no substance, and yet somehow people have placed some sort of mythical power on her head like she's a goddess or some shit. Ugh. Call me when she becomes as irrelevant as Madonna.

Posted by: ChristianH at June 21, 2011 6:27 PM

In both cases, Lady Gaga & Madonna, what irks me the most is the manufactured aspect of both. While I agree that Gaga might have actual musical ability, whereas Madonna has/had NONE, both rely on that time-worn tactic of stirring up publicity under the guise of pushing the envelope/offending existing societal mores/yawn.

Lest we forget, Madonna wearing lingerie as clothing, simulating stigmata in videos, championing homosexuality--that all got her the same level of notoriety in the 80's that Gaga receives now. Gaga just has to up the ante because we're 25 years down the road. Spectacle for spectacle's sake gets old, period.

Posted by: Mona Sterling at June 21, 2011 6:33 PM

I know it's just a figure of speech, but I kinda wish you'd stop "we'ing" these lists. I don't give a shit about any of the women you list up there. If the list included a Kardashian, yeah, I could get down with the hate there, but basically you've listed actresses who actually, like, do shit. They act and/or sing, and even if I'm not their biggest fan, at least they do something worthwhile. People may not like what they do, but none of them has yet to do anything as annoying to me as what any of the Kardashians do on a daily basis, ie, continue to exist and pollute my TV with their attention whoring and mediocrity, since they have nothing else to offer.

Posted by: Slash at June 21, 2011 7:23 PM

I appreciate Blake Lively.

Her accent in The Town was a cross between an actual Boston accent, the cotton-balled Marlon Brando speak in The Godfather, and boombastic Shaggy.

How many other actresses can do that?

I want to make a spin-off centered on her character's interactions with the Swedish chef, the teacher from Peanuts, and Peter Boyle's interpretation of Frankenstein's monster.

Posted by: penelope at June 21, 2011 7:53 PM

I kind like Lady Gaga, for the same reason I like Marilyn Manson, because I like it that ugly people can be successful. I think that is cool. It is great to see ugly people on the cover of magazines and on awards shows doing freaky, weird, dumb stuff.

Posted by: MRod at June 21, 2011 8:05 PM

Oh yeah, and I AM over 30.

Posted by: MRod at June 21, 2011 8:09 PM

Selena Gomez.

I've never seen more pre-teen hatred.

Posted by: BondGemmaBond at June 21, 2011 8:10 PM

I've only seen January Jones in X-men, but Jennifer Lawrence as Mystique irritated me so much more in that movie. Sure, Emma Frost didn't leave much of an impression, but pretty much everything Raven-related was painfully awkward. (Also, I have always been rather fond of Mystique, so maybe I was taking it personally.) Was it just me?

Posted by: Shibuyama at June 21, 2011 9:31 PM

Yeah, I didn't really have much of any opinion of most of these ladies before reading this list, so hate is a bit strong of a word. Though I also thought as I read through the comments that it seemed like a lot of people disagreed on the first four, and I seem to recall seeing a lot of comments in other threads here to the contrary of those posted here. And I'm pretty sure those previous comments are the reason these women are on this list today.

As far as Lady Gaga goes I usually only see anything about her in JoRo's sections, so comparatively there is less about her, which warrants less hate generated in the comments. I can understand the opinions regarding her, she definitely has pulled a page from the playbook of many a successful recording artist. But one day maybe she will get away from the autotune sound and club mix stuff. In the few times I've bothered to actually watch her perform somewhere when all the things I don't like about her music are removed I am surprised at how talented she is and how I would never have known. For all I knew she could have been like Antoine Dodson.

I think there should have been more of these mysterious celebrities who are famous for being famous on this list. The Kardashians, the Jersey Shore Jack-offs, pretty much anyone who before their reality program no one knew or cared who the fuck they were. I'd sure love to stumble into an era before reality television was nearly all encompassing like it is today.

Posted by: protoformX at June 21, 2011 9:36 PM

I'm a 27 year old male who listens exclusively to hard rock and heavy metal and I love Lady Gaga. I like her music and I think she is very sexy. I think a lot of the hate towards her is backlash against her mainstream success.

When someone is so immensely popular its natural for people like us pajibans to be skeptical. I certainly was so with Gaga at first. But the more I listened the more I see her as being genuine. I guess its possible she is just putting on a show with her whole persona and her political views. But that wouldn't be the worst thing ever considering the positive nature of her message.

And I like that she is sexy in an unconventional way. It comes through not just by showing off her awesome body. But also in the way she moves and the confidence she shows. Blake Lively and January Jones are a little more physically attractive (especially Jones). But I'd rather have sex with Lady Gaga over both of them, over many women in fact.

Posted by: Dave at June 21, 2011 9:49 PM

1. Bitchy- and the only people who think high school is really like that work for Hollywood.
2. Couldn't act with a gun to her head.
3. Ditto.
4. Never heard of her before this article.
5. Lady Gaga-- Anyone who tries that hard isn't worth my time. Someone who dresses like a colorblind frustrated second year drama student and says she identifies with the "
gay struggle" is insulting the LGBT community to say the least. Wearing ugly clothing onstage isn't what's getting men & women curb-stomped and beaten to death in the South--IT'S BEING GAY.

Posted by: Mr. stitch at June 21, 2011 10:08 PM

It's posts like this one and the comments on it that make me lose respect for the Pajiba community.

Seriously Dustin, if you actually felt like the illogical hatred of women in Hollywood was a bad thing, you'd write an article on the possible reasons for it, not post pictures of the women so the people in the comments section could go into detail on the ways they hate them. Though I guess that wouldn't create page views.

I hope the contributors on this website at least realize that they are no different than Us Weekly or Star magazine.

Posted by: ERM at June 21, 2011 11:36 PM

i actually detested gaga until i learned of her human rights work. only then did i check out her music, which was mostly fun.

Posted by: maxwell at June 21, 2011 11:55 PM

Oh man, do I hate Winona. Listen, if you don't hate her and you want to defend that opinion, fine. But my hatred is totally rational, that woman is a terrible (fictional) person. TERRIBLE.

Posted by: Even Stevens at June 22, 2011 12:42 AM

Wait, people thought Lively was bad in The Town? I actually thought she was pretty damn good. Lady GaGa is a famewhore with marginal talent and an ugly face.

Posted by: EshinX at June 22, 2011 3:05 AM

I write too much.

I like two of the women on the list, and love one of them. (You can probably see who by my previous response, e.g. the one in which I wrote too much.)

Posted by: Amanda6 at June 22, 2011 3:06 AM

I just wanted to say that I'm really amazed when people comment (on a movie and TV review site) about how they don't know an actor or actress (never seen them in anything). What are you even doing on the site?

Do you just come here to read articles about TV shows you'll never watch and movies you'll never see?

Posted by: DeistBrawler at June 22, 2011 3:21 AM

I resent a little that the Winona haters are being accused of hating her JUST because she's fucking a hot man we all desire physically(I'm not going to pretend most of us dont want to bone Timothy Olyphant til exhaustion kills us both)

I think we made our point quite well that she's just a bad character, selfish, lazy, hilariously stupid and flaky.
It has fuck all to do with her fucking Raylan. Rachel could have the same character traits and I'd hate her as much and she isn't fucking any one.

SO yeah. Msot of us can rationally explain our hatred for her so it's a little unfair to include her and us on the list. Frankly.

Mel C said it best, LOTS AND LOTS of male, straight Justified fans fucking hate Winona too. I'm actually QUITE pissed off about this, more so than I thought I would be, it kind of suggests you didn't really read the comments made by Winona haters on Dan's article because we argued our side damn well.

As for the rest, I haven't experienced enough of January Jones to feel any way about her, Blake Lively just seems like she wants more fame than she's reallistically going to achieve, Lea Michele I don't hate as a person but I have issues with as a performer(She still over emotes facially when she sings but that's her broadway training I guess) Lady Gaga is just crap. Just crap. You all know I hate her. She sucks all of the dick.

Posted by: Nadine at June 22, 2011 3:54 AM

Only Lea Michele because I can't stand her voice and she thinks she's Barbra Streisand. She is a lousy actress and I'm not fond of acting ensembles where one of them thinks she is "the star" over the rest of them.

I actually like Anniston, Heigl, Parker, don't mind Paltrow, Fox, Lively and Fox, think Jones is good in MadMen ( haven't seen her in anything else)find Gaga mildly entertaining and don't know of Hawkins. Does that me not jealous or a lousy judge of taste?

Posted by: kirbyjay at June 22, 2011 6:29 AM

OK - just wanted to correct my Madonna comment. She didn't go around 80% naked. She did wear clothes: ugly, awful, ugly, atrocious, ugly clothes, but clothes she did wear.

My comment also makes it sound like I hate Madonna. I never really hated her. I can't stand her music, and I hated the fact that for an extrordinarily long period of time, I couldn't get away from her or her music.

Posted by: Three-nineteen at June 22, 2011 9:53 AM

I've got nipples
You do too
When we take our shirts off
They'd rather look at you
Pink and pointy
Round and brown
Wear a t-shirt in the winter
and show them 'round the town
Everybody's got one
most of us have two
You have three and you love me
and that's why I love you!

Randy Newman

Posted by: The Mutt at June 22, 2011 10:18 AM

Gaga annoys me because her music isn't about music. Her popularity stems from the absurdity and craziness of her act, not the quality of her performances or her music. To me, Gaga is a less obscene version of Adam Dunn.

Posted by: Camytaru at June 22, 2011 10:24 AM

puppetDoug wrote:
"Lady Gaga is abhorrent and annoying for the same reasons as Marilyn Manson or Alice Cooper -- they're shocking people for the shock of it, not for a reason. She should be called Lady Dada. David Bowie challenged sexual norms as he lived an abnormal sexual lifestyle. Madonna was similar, as was Freddie Mercury. It was their honesty about themselves that makes their music matter."

Wait, so basically if Bowie was totally straight but had the same act you would think he was abhorrent and annoying too? Feeling like a weird alien outsider isn't just a matter of sexual norms, and from Gaga's life story it sounds like she felt like an outsider a lot of her life too. And I don't think she's just pretending to be into surrealistic weirdness for the sake of album sales, that aesthetic is as much a reflection of her tastes as Bowie's aesthetic was of his.

Posted by: Jesse M. at June 22, 2011 10:34 AM

Nadine, I was wondering when you would weigh in on this. You said it perfectly; our hatred is not out of any jealousy but comes from really, truly disliking her character and her character's actions.

Posted by: Even Stevens at June 22, 2011 12:58 PM

Lady Gaga sucks because she's a copy cat.

And I'm a big Madonna fan. And I'm 23.

Posted by: kayla at June 22, 2011 1:35 PM

So the irony is that Blake Lively..... isn't?

Posted by: Odnon at June 22, 2011 1:40 PM

"It's not even derivative to a fault. Gaga is intentionally fucking with the pop music audience. Her shit that sounds like other shit is designed to get a rise out of music snobs and subvert expectations of dumb pop fans. Her word play is strong and she can sing, dance, and perform like no one else in her age group. You can't hate manufactured pop acts for being derivative and hate a pop act whose sole purpose is to fuck with those derivative and sell that shit to the radio. You can't. It's like saying you hate Michael Bay for making everything a mindless blow-up session but then saying you admire his ability to blow shit up in every movie. It's a blatant contradiction."

Actually, it's that people have this idea about Gaga that I hate her. People buy into her "really, I'm an intellectual and this is all performance art" schtick but she is still selling the same message to her fans when she lost weight to get even skinnier, to show even more skin, in order to be even more outrageous -- all to sell even more records and concert tickets. I'm glad she is supporting good causes.

But she is not a feminist icon, and people try really hard to paint her as one. Madonna wasn't a feminist icon either--they are both products of enlightened sexism where manufactured sexuality and outrageous-ness somehow equates to female power, presenting a model of success that is not only unattainable for the average, not super privileged young woman, but damaging.

That and I don't actually like any of her songs, but they get stuck in my head (Madonna songs are the same way) until, because I know them so well and they have a beat I can dance to, my brain tries to tell me I like those songs. I don't. And I don't want a Bad Romance, and Just Dance is disturbing, and there is very little going on in Gaga's world that looks like she was born that way. Au Natural she is not.

And when I complain about how she's actually not all that talented (I listen to singer songwriters who have never writhed on stage or worn meat dresses, and speak truth and move me in ways Gaga never could), someone tells me that I just don't get it, or her.

I wish she was more of the feminist icon I would like to have; I wish a true feminist icon could have her level of success. But without the hyper-sexuality/performance art aspect, they just don't get the attention. I too wish she could be better than she is.

I think that's what a lot of the "we hate these women" things are about. Look, you ladies who supposedly have the looks, charm, talent or what not to be successful in the world as it is, can you try to use that success to make the world better, and stop representing all the things I like least in pop culture?

Posted by: TheHobo at June 22, 2011 4:54 PM

Gaga is to Madonna is to Elvis is to Sinatra.

Talent? It doesn't matter. They are famous for being famous and that's exactly what they set out to do. They set out to be stars and they are.

Slow clap.


Posted by: The Mutt at June 22, 2011 9:49 PM

I can't understand hating an actor or actress because they aren't very good. Hate the people who cast them and the people who direct them. Blake Lively and January Jones aren't great actresses, but they are good when cast correctly. So blame the people who cast them in roles they can't pull off.

Posted by: KateMC at June 23, 2011 2:03 AM

Don't care for Gaga or Glee. Winona I do not know anything about. January Jones does not interest me. For that matter, neither did Blake Lively. She was a character in a ridiculous show on TV, but they are dime a dozen. Her fashion and personality are boring. So why the sudden dislike of Ms.Lively ? The Time 100 most influential. What did she do to deserve that spot ? Sleep with someone ?

Posted by: Meredith at June 24, 2011 7:03 PM

I've found that concentrating all of my irrational hatred on Paltrow has helped me look with a critical, but less bitchy eye on the members of this list. Lady Gaga's Ok, but I never get the sense she's doing anything but performing. There's no genuine connection to anything she does, no real foundation. If that's her end game, then she's winning, but if she's claiming to be an artist, she's got a hell of way to go before she gets there.

Posted by: Ana at June 26, 2011 4:30 PM

I personally don't hate Lea Michele. I think she has a beautiful voice but I DO get really tired of her character on the show. If she IS like what everyone says she is that really disappoints me. I don't think having talent gives you the right to be a raging jerk.

I kind of like Blake on Gossip Girl. But I don't think she's a great actress by any stretch and I'm mostly just puzzled by her fame. If anyone should get famous from that cast I feel it should be Leighton, she's a much stronger actress.

I like JJ on Mad Men, but her fame ALSO puzzles me. And I think she sucked all of the life out of the X-Men movie. She was just truly awful in every scene she was in.

Don't know the other lady and I only mildy dislike Lady Gaga. Simply because I find her antics a bit tiring and her current music boring. I like some of her old music, it is fun. But her recent stuff and behavior kind of bores me.

That said, I don't really hate any of them.

Posted by: KC at June 26, 2011 8:23 PM

The only one of these women I dislike is the character of Winona. And really that's only because I liked Raylan with Ava. Also that woman has a really pointy nose. I don't hate her for it but I do find it distracting.

Posted by: Ang at June 26, 2011 10:11 PM