But They Can Never Taint You in My Eyes: Ten People We Loved So Hard, It Turned to Hate
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But They Can Never Taint You in My Eyes: Ten People We Loved So Hard, It Turned to Hate

By Cindy Davis | Seriously Random Lists | October 25, 2012 | Comments ()


Watching the new Iron Man 3 trailer the other day, it struck me how empty the whole thing felt. Robert Downey Jr. can't save Gwyneth Paltrow, but who really gives a shit? It's just another overdone third entry in a another triad of overblown films, with its over-exposed stars--another superhero film with explosions, and an even more badder bad guy. In this land that is our land we eat what they feed us, and when we love it, they feed us more...and more and more, until we are so completely and utterly sick that we can no longer stand it. We do it with our movie franchises, our television shows, and we do it with our actors. Well, somebody does it--whether it's the publicity machines, the network or film studios, or the actors themselves, someone keeps shoving the people we like down our throats until they each turn into just another regurgitated, self-important blob. Do we even remember when we loved them?

The Friend: Jennifer Aniston


You were so cute! You were darling and likable, and a little ditzy; we all wanted to be your friend. (Oh the others too, but mostly you.) You had pretty hair we coveted, and wore the clothes we wanted to wear, had excellent boobs (never minded showing your nipples) and we all cheered when you landed Brad Pitt.

But Then: "Friends" was over, you decided you wanted to become an actress we'd take seriously, and you got all snippy about how you hated "The Rachel." We figured out that you could basically only do some other version of Miss Green, Brad ran away, and you turned into The Woman Who Is Desperate to Land a Man and/or Have a Baby. For the last umpteen years, you've done bad comedy after bad comedy (with a few lucky shots in between), man after man, and now we're all just so relieved that you pinned down that guy with the giant eyebrows...maybe you'll have real triplets and go away for good.

The Bad Boy: Sean Penn


Taps, Fast Times at Ridgemont High, Bad Boys, Racing with the Moon, The Falcon and the Snowman, At Close Range, Colors, Casualties of War...you were a young powerhouse actor who blew (and continues to blow) us away. You were the quintessential bad boy and when you hooked up with Madonna, we all saw why. You are immensely talented, but as creative people sometimes are, also volatile--attacking photographers and finally, Madonna herself. And while it's perfectly fine to get involved in causes, it's your self-important and righteous attitude that turns us off. If you decide to go into politics, you'll be right at home.

The Funny Girl: Cameron Diaz


You were the winning combination of beautiful and funny, launched into our consciousness with The Mask and My Best Friend's Wedding, and locking yourself into place with There's Something About Mary. Suddenly, you were everywhere we looked, in every movie and on every magazine and in our faces all the time. It got uncomfortable. And though you've been a serviceable actress here and there, the beauty thing went sort of empty--along with your movie choices. Frankly, your friend Drew has your schtick covered, and she's a better actress.

The Mangenue: Brad Pitt


When first we (most of us) met in Thelma and Louise, you took away our breath with your looks; we stuck around because of your skill: Kalifornia, Legends of the Fall, Se7en, Twelve Monkeys, Fight Club... We watched you work your way through Hollywood's women--heck, we even enjoyed the way you morphed yourself to match each one:

Confused, Possibly Doped Up Pitt:


She Told Me We Had to Match! Pitt:


Golden Couple/Clean Cut Pitt:


Billy Bob Pitt:


And so you went from being this regular, cute, guy-next-door kind of guy with a natural talent, to someone who seems to need a certain kind of lady on his arm, and yet--also the guy who maybe doesn't have enough of his own personality to be whomever he really is. Now it's all Brad and Ange and their parade of It's a Small World conquerers are in France! Now Italy! Now Zimbabwe! Who cares?!

The Comeback Kid: Robert Downey, Jr.


We loved you since you first stood on the Brat Pack fringe, from Weird Science to The Pick-Up Artist and Less Than Zero. You killed us with Chaplin, made us laugh with Soapdish, and broke our hearts in Chances Are. When the drugs completely took hold, we rooted for you so hard. Despite a few backward stumbles, you were great on "Ally McBeal" ...and then...something changed. Whether it was the giant Iron Man success, who can say? Your arrogance got out of control. Any stage appearance or interview reeks of self-aggrandizing, and frankly, no one can be as impressed with you as you are, yourself. Perhaps the Goop, it rubbed off? Maybe head back to your acting roots and show us how you used to shine, because RDJ 2.0 is just a leetle too shiny.

The Goopster: Gwyneth Paltrow


Oh Gwynnie, some of us do remember you before you were overtaken by the Goop! You seemed shy and quiet, and even though you were privileged from the start, we were willing to give you a chance. And you know what, you were charming for a while there...pretty you hanging on to your pretty Brad toy. You did your bit part in Se7en well enough, got yourself a couple of decent parts in Moonlight and Valentino and Hard Eight and then delighted us with Emma and Sliding Doors. Then, you must've gotten a little taste of the Goop and liked it, because we could almost see it working its way through your veins--you got a kind of Goopy glow. It was there in Great Expectations, maybe a teeny bit sweated out during A Perfect Murder and then it went full on raging through your bloodstream after Shakespeare in Love. Why, you almost dressed as if you knew you'd win that Oscar, even though we all know it belonged to Cate Blanchett. (I will admit your teary acceptance speech got to me.) Then shit went CRAY. You got this idea that you could have it all, you could do it all and that you would be doing us a favor if you not only actressed, but you'd sing! (Please don't sing.) Finally, you put the nail in your own coffin when, completely taken over by your monstrous creation--Goop--you began sending out snobby newsletters filled with all the expensive stuff you buy, the fancy foods you eat (or cleanse out--ew) and the luxurious hotels you visit, so the rest of us poor slobs could do as you do. Only we're not rich and famous, so we can't. Dickhead.

The Lucky Star: Madonna


You did it old school, fought your way to the top and stayed there--for that you'll always have our respect. Whatever our feelings now, we still remember that early 80s cheeky girl. You weren't the world's best singer, but you put your heart and soul into everything you did to get our attention. Then came the acting...oh, the acting; Desperately Seeking Susan was cute, but that was just you being you. Shanghai Surprise? Who's That Girl? Dick Tracy? You refuse to understand that film is not your forte, and while we admire your tenacity, at a certain point, it turns to foolishness. Like most of your list companions, it is ego that knocks you down. A certain affectation when you speak, a little pomposity here, and putting on airs over there...honey, you're from Detroit--not London. Put a sock in your Kabbalah.

The Recluse: Johnny Depp


Cry Baby, "21 Jump Street," Edward Scissorhands, Benny and Joon, What's Eating Gilbert Grape; we were head over heels with you Johnny. Ed Wood, Donnie Brasco secured your hold on us; with Chocolat, we melted in your hands. Then you went French, took a wife, started rolling your own cigarettes and put on that Madonna-esque faux European accent thing... You entered into perpetual hookups with Tim Burton and Disney, both of whom have turned you into some sort of caricature Depp who looks like a homeless, middle-aged woman, and speaks with a mucous-filled, muppet voice. We fully expect you to next star as a goth Billie Jean King in Burton's twisted biopic, The Nightmare Before Wimbledon or perhaps as Cher in Gypsy Tramp: Thief Bride.


The Mask: Jim Carrey


You quickly and easily won us over with your madcap "In Living Color" performances and a heart-warming story of a dream--writing yourself a post-dated ten million dollar check that's likely been banked ten times over. You were adorably silly in Ace Ventura: Pet Detective; you freaked us out with The Mask. Then you shocked us all by proving your flair for the dramatic: The Truman Show, Man on the Moon and Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind. But somewhere along the road, we got sick of all the dumb and dumber, the schtick got old, the face morphed one too many times. You pounded us over the head with your lunacy until we just couldn't stand the sight of you any longer. But worst of all, you took our beloved Dr. Seuss stories and turned them into abominations that should be banned in all countries. Good day sir! I said good day!

The Ice Queen: Angelina Jolie


Can we remember "Gia"? Girl, Interrupted (Poor Winona does)? Do we recall that young girl, so beautiful and full of promise? You were going to be the next Meryl Streep. We all fell for you, we did. You followed up your "serious" act, with a thrilling Lara Croft. But almost as quickly as you showed up on our movie radar, your delayed teenagerish, acting-out, shenanigans began--a bloody shirt here, a vial around your neck there, stealing a man over here, another over there... After having ridden your daddy's method and fame, he suddenly became the abhorrent cheater who ruined your mother's life. For all your adopting and humanitarian work, we are still befuddled by your moral hypocrisy, and (leg!) a desperate need to be publicly adored. We're ever so sorry to say Maleficent seems your perfectly identifiable role.

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Comments Are Welcome, Bigots and Trolls Are Not

  • Jo 'Mama' Besser

    I've never had a celebrity crush because I'm a ice robot, I'll base this on people who seemed popular for one role and saw that popularity crash in the next minute, people who slowly built up the crazy or against whom the wider tide has changed and people who were 'found out' and destroyed personally, if not necessarily professionally.

    Group One
    -Kate Hudson (Almost Famous)
    -Katherine Heigl (Knocked Up)
    -Scarlett Johansson (Lost In Translation)
    -Lindsay Lohan (Mean Girls)

    Group Two
    -Mel Gibson
    -Tom Cruise
    -James Franco
    -Halle Berry
    -John Cusack
    -Salma Hayek

    Group Three (not equal in terms of penury of the soul)
    -Jimmy Saville
    -Roman Polanski
    -Woody Allen
    -John Galiano
    -Tiger Woods
    -Jerry Lee Lewis
    -Joe Paterno



    I don't know, does my detached argument hold water? Any submissions?

  • annie

    Once in a while, something with Gwenyth Paltrow comes on, and I remember that, damn, she can be adorable and talented and pretty, and how did things change?! At least Iron Man 3 promises more exposure to the wonderful Rebecca Hall, and I do like Shane Black.

  • Jemiah Jefferson

    I will never not love Robert Downey Jr.

  • Neutrum

    Men who hate women (they don´t even know). Charming.

  • no one

    Man Cindy, seems like you have some hate issues. I love Pitt, RDJ, Depp and Jolie now as much as ever. And even though I wouldn't say I'm a fan of Madonna's I don't have anything but respect for her.

  • Julia Roberts belongs at the top of this list.

    'Hate' is a strong word for most of the folks on this list. I am scornful of Ms. Jolie's self-righteous pretentiousness, beyond tired of Depp's schtick, and indifferent to Cameron Diaz; but I still admire the work coming from Penn and Pitt and I am genuinely fond of Aniston and RDJ.

    Goopy is the only one I wouldn't spit on if she were on fire. But then again, I've never liked her. At all.

  • rogerdodger

    I feel like Aniston came to a point in her career that coincided with her divorce where she was done and if she hadn't co-signed with the whole victim thing she would have been back on television can't really blame her for dropping a few jaded quotes that got overblown and picked over by the media.

    As for Jolie she seriously didn't do anything that bad. Everyone in Hollywood has committed adultery including Tom Hanks, Julia Roberts, and Laura Dern(seriously if you investigate her history much, much worse then Angelina's) even Jennifer Aniston 'stole' somebody's man(as long as they are bipeds with two legs it really their choice to walk away). Really her problem is that she is too skinny and really pretentious I feel like the media has taken such glee in picking her apart based on In Touch covers I think it's the only thing that still makes her famous.

  • John G.

    I know I'm being unreasonable here, but I see that header pic and I just want to throw shit at her smiling face. What is she smiling about?

  • John G.

    Oh Man! remember when Angelina Jolie looked like that, and not an animated skeleton with retractable legs?

  • gnibs

    Never for a femtosecond did I like Gwyneth Paltrow. Fuck you for suggesting such nonsense.

  • So Pajiba is going full on bitchy gossip site now? Is that what this bizzaro piece is telling us? Christ.

  • Tate

    Sean Penn was in Milk. That's his get out of jail free card.

  • Sweep The Leg

    Mike Myers must have missed being put on this list by the skin of his teeth.

  • apsutter

    This list is spot on except for the fact that I've ALWAYS hated that smug bitch Gwyneth Paltrow.


    Really? This is what you came up with? Really? Your analysis of the Iron Man 3 trailer is so fucking dumb that there's nowhere else for you to go, but up!

  • This roll-your-eyes, write-them-off treatment seems to be the default punishment for A-listers who have ridden their success for a while without completely imploding (or just checking out entirely, like good ol' Rick Moranis and Molly Ringwald). We entertainment-obsessed types want sensationalism, we want stars who cause suspense in our lives, and we naturally get annoyed and resentful at those who achieve a fair amount of stability, while still being highly visible. Not that we're to blame for it, because the whole point of the entertainment industry is to keep us engaged and distracted... but it's good to be aware that some of our discontent with these spoiled A-listers is just a projection of our own pathological boredom and restlessness.

  • Lemon_Poundcake

    I can't stand Goop, but she's rocking that short haircut. Maybe she needs to chop off her fried, flat-ironed mess and go back to that look.

  • roodle


  • AngelenoEwok

    Also, "We fully expect you to next star as a goth Billie Jean King in Burton’s twisted biopic, The Nightmare Before Wimbledon."

    Is it bad that I now totally want to see that movie? Damnit, Cindy, why must you taunt me with what can never be?!

  • Nope. Never loved them that hard. Certainly don't hate ANY of them. Hell, I was impressed with Gwynnie's legs in those Daisy Dukes in Avengers.

    The Jennifer Aniston "hate" is extra stupid. She can open movies and she's still rather charming/cute.

    Maybe you should step away from the pop culture a bit. Take a vacation, maybe?

  • AngelenoEwok

    I dunno, if I had any of these folks' careers I would probably become douchey and self important and pretentious as all hell myself. I can acknowledge that I'm not a terribly nice or considerate person now, and I don't even have cray cray levels of fame and fortune as an excuse.

  • DominaNefret

    How about the quirky, less mainstream actors that were for awhile embraced by the lovers of all things indie, and suddenly had that loved stripped away? Who are now seen as overrated and pretentious?
    Main examples: Zach Braff and Natalie Portman

  • e jerry powell

    Then I am standing on my Mary-Louise Parker annoyance.

  • She could still be Ms Cool. Did the steady paycheck ruin her? Parenting?

  • e jerry powell

    Jenji Kohan, really. I've adored her in most all of her pre-Weeds work.

  • Jt

    I think I just fell in love with Shonda.

  • DenG

    I can't miss 'em if they won't go away for awhile. I wish Madonna would take a sabbatical. Take Goop with you.

  • e jerry powell

    Somewhere deep in the Great Rift Valley. With the wildebeests.

  • John G.


    I never like Princess Gwenyth, but my general dislike turned into wishing for murder when she started GOOP. It isn't enough that she's had an unbearably gifted life, but she has to go out and try and flaunt it for the poors and tell them how to live in the most out of touch way possible? In a time when income inequality is higher than ever, we don't need princess Gwenyth to tell us which famous designers should design our pumpkin carving rooms for our children.

  • Sara_Tonin00

    er, than don't subscribe? and don't buy Vogue, or InStyle or Details or Esquire....

    I can rolling one's eyes at the newsletter, but she's not forcing anyone to do anything.

  • John G.

    It's still in poor taste. Although, I suppose when Marie Antoinette said "let them eat cake" people could have just not listened.

  • Sara_Tonin00

    It's a little different, as Marie Antoinette was ostensibly a ruler, and had some responsibility for the welfare of the starving.

    Look, I'm not a fan of the GOOP, but the impression I got is that it essentially started as "so many people ask me about X, that I'm doing a newsletter to tell you where I bought it" and it's morphed into this wacky window on her macrobiotic life.

  • e jerry powell

    Am I allowed to say that I'm very near the edge with Mary-Louise Parker, or is a B-lister ineligible for this burst of outrage?

  • janetfaust

    I had neutral feelings for Goop until I read an article in Movieline where they were asking various stars what their worst Valentine's Day experience was. This was probably around the Se7en years. Everyone they asked talked about people dying, break ups, finding out your SO is cheating - legitimately awful things. Goop's worst Valentine's Day was due to not receiving the flowers she expected from her boyfriend on V-Day. Every time the doorbell rang she was expecting those flowers and every time it turned out to be flowers from *someone else* - friends, her dad, etc. Turns out the flowers from her boyfriend were delivered on the 15th. Oh, the horror! I bet she needed counseling after that.

  • seth

    Choosing between Cameron Diaz and cold soggy french fries... I'll go with the fries.

  • Shonda

    I ain't never loved Paltrow or Madonna. They were and are completely heinous. They are so far up their own asses that their shit has a faux English accent.

    Paltrow is just a ridiculously vapid star-fucker (and probable Weinstein fucker as well because there is no way she actually won over Blanchett) with good parents and who was born on home plate and thought she hit a grand slam.

    And Madge? Fucking please. She can change her persona and reinvent herself all she wants but putting poo in a new box doesn't change the fact the it's still just gift-wrapped shit.

    I feel strongly about them.

  • Jo 'Mama' Besser

    It was part of her two-pronged attack to free Winona of her personal copy of the Shakespeare In Love screenplay

  • dizzylucy

    "born on home plate and thought she hit a grand slam"
    Great expression, and fitting for her and a few other people I can think of.

  • lowercase_ryan

    I think much of this list falls into the apathy category and not the hate. I can see these three being hated: Gwyneth, Madonna, and Sean Penn. Because I honestly they have become jerks. The rest of them, can't say I have any reason to hate them. And yeah, I still have a lot of respect for Pitt and how he lives his life.

  • Blake

    Ed Norton and Hugh Jackman? Both have worn out their welcome IMHO (Norton since Fight Club and Jackman since X-Men).

  • Lee

    That's a weird comment, coz those two are barely seen anymore, and certainly not in our faces all the time.

  • no one

    Jackman is just lurking, waiting for someone to play music so he can burst into dance.

  • ERM

    I think you've had too much of the tabloid kool-aid, with baby-crazy Aniston and 'poor Winona' thing. Wasn't there an article on this site a week ago noting how awesome Winona Rider was and quoting her saying she knew Jolie's role was going to require a great performance and that she was happy for her?

  • FireLizardQueen

    I kept scrolling down, waiting for you to post someone I disagreed with but it never really happened.

    But, since I'm commenting. The more Madonna opens her mouth, the more I hate her. Cameron Diaz? Ugh. Ick. I don't really hate Brad Pitt, mostly because he still makes some great movies and still obviously has a sense of humor (I've no doubt he was well aware of how ridiculous that Chanel ad was) but I understand WHY people hate him. Same with Angie, will always love her but she's teetering on the edge of too righteous and hasn't been in a good movie in YEARS.

  • TheOriginalMRod

    Madonna is the only person on this list that I really dislike. Hell, I don't know any of them personally...

  • ashley


  • Agreed. The day we get sick of him is the day the human race should pack it in, and last one out has to turn off the lights.

  • $27019454

    SO sick of his smug-me act. Shut up already and let the other actors act. Avengers was the last straw. Just UGH. GO AWAY.

  • BWeaves

    My favorite poem from my childhood:

    The Goops
    by Gelett Burgess.

    The Goops they lick their fingers,
    and the Goops they lick their knives;
    They spill their broth on the tablecloth,
    Oh, they lead disgusting lives!
    The Goops they talk while eating,
    and loud and fast they chew.
    And that is why I'm glad that I
    am not a Goop. Are you?

  • e jerry powell


  • Gigi

    I don't believe that Drew Barrymore is the "better" actress actually. Although, Cameron Diaz is not that much better, they're roughly the same talentwise for me. There's Something About Mary was good because of all the characters involved and the script. Why is RDJ even on this? He's had way better roles then the ones you listed in the paragraph. If you're gonna hate on him, i think it's more than jealousy than anything else.

  • e jerry powell

    Remembering above all else that Drew Barrymore is a Barrymore, whereas Diaz is an upstart that didn't come from generations of Hollywood royalty or start out in the business in freaking E.T., I think Diaz has quite a bit more to prove to stand up in that particular comparison.

  • Slash

    I don't hate any of these people. I think Sean Penn is kind of a douche (a well-meaning douche, maybe, but a douche all the same), but that's as strong as my feelings get about him.

  • oilybohunk7

    I can fully understand not enjoying Jennifer Aniston's work, she has done a lot of questionable/terrible movies but I honestly don't understand why so many people hate her personally. Maybe I'm not reading the same articles or seeing the same stories but I've never seen "The Woman Who Is Desperate to Land a Man and/or Have a Baby" coming from her, I see it coming from the media. She dates. She is single, single people date. As far as I remember, and by all means correct me if I'm wrong, she has been married once and engaged one time (not counting Brad). Is that even remotely out of the realm of normalcy for a person her age?

  • Lee

    If the media did not constantly keep her shoved in our faces, I doubt as many people would be annoyed by her. And she tops that feeling up with one bad sit-com movie after another where she plays versions of Rachel. Personally, I'm sick of the sight of her.

  • kirbyjay

    Jolie was married to Billy Bob and Jonny Lee Miller, both in her 20's.

  • TheDeadBurger

    Yeah, I think she's delightful. I've never understood all the hate. She's not a good actress by any means, but she is charming and vivacious.

  • NateMan

    Dude, what did Brad Pitt do? The others I can get, although I enjoy RDJ's arrogance, he's sharp enough to pull it off. But it sounds kinda like you're complaining Pitt's too quiet and unassuming. I appreciate that about him. He disappears into his roles well and never opens his mouth in public unless he's got something fairly intelligent to say (though it's entirely possible he's said some stupid things I've missed). That's all I need from the guy.

  • Jezzer

    Brad Pitt has always struck me as really, really dumb.

  • kirbyjay

    I agree. Brad Pitt is lovely.

  • Brad's one real foray into 'helping others' has been really successful and was well done. He has avoided the spotlight, but lent his name as needed. Hard to find fault with him, other than for his quiet transition into maturity. Once he landed that hellcat, Ms Jolie (and I mean that in a good way), he's been a poster child for stability. I guess he's both gotta be satisfied by her and frightened to death of straying while she's off saving another country.

    You said it perfectly about RDJ, and I cannot muster any animus toward him for pulling out of the absolute toilet.

    Can't really say I'd rally to any of the others on this list.

  • BWeaves

    "never opens his mouth in public unless he's got something fairly intelligent to say"

    You haven't seen the latest Chanel ads?

  • valerie

    Oh wah wah. The Chanel ads are dumb but it's obvious they gave Brad Pitt cart blanche to do whatever the hell he felt like doing. Dude didn't even shave for it! It's the most non-celebrity celebrity endorsement I've ever seen and the money from it probably went to a third world country.

  • NateMan

    Nope. I rarely watch live TV, and though I've seen them posted around I can't bring myself to voluntarily watch a commercial, even for the entertainment value.

  • Callie

    I find it interesting, the sheer number of articles/posts that imply Jennifer Aniston herself is behind her "The Woman Who Is Desperate to Land a Man and/or Have a Baby" image/reputation. Really? Most of the time, it seems that she just answering the same flavor of questions posed to her, over and over again. Don't get me wrong, I am neither Team Aniston or Team Jolie, I just think this whole "she is sooooooooo desperate" description is incredibly lame. Pajiba, Celebitchy, even my beloved Dlisted really seem to hammer that down the throat a smidge.

  • dizzylucy

    Kind of agree. I think in her case, and a few others, the tabloids have latched onto a story that sells, and they'll continue to force feed it to the masses whether it's true or not.

  • NateMan

    I'm with you. I dislike Aniston as an actress, always have. I hated Friends (and being forced repeatedly to watch it by my wife hasn't helped) and I've never cared for her in any movie I've seen her in. But the whole "Desperate to get laid" thing makes me sympathetic towards her. Marriages crumble, and it's always shitty when they do, but I find the amount of false sympathy with a fine patina of contempt directed towards Aniston quite appalling.

  • Lee

    I don't feel the slightest bit sorry for her. She's made a lucrative career out of being the scorned woman, when without Brad Pitt she would have disappeared after Friends to 'straight to dvd' hell where she belongs.

  • dizzylucy

    I love everything about this, particularly the matchy match Brad slide show.
    You have to admit, that's a little weird.

    I still have a bit of Friends fondness for Jen but her film choices are terrible, and I hope that RDJ can step away from the giant franchises to do some quieter work.

    Don't really hate Cam, but never loved Goop or Angelina.

  • Abbey Road

    Re: Brad - I used to defend him to the death for doing interesting things even though he could have fallen back on prettiness, until the over-the-top Oscar baiting after Tree of Life, which I think was one of his most unnatural and forced performances. But the slide show - It's one of those "which came first" kinds of discussions, isn't it? Did he become the person he was dating? Or did he go through phases as he matured (we all do) and date people who matched that phase (we all do)?

  • e jerry powell

    I still can't get past the fact that Gwyneth was banging her father's best friend on the set of A Perfect Murder I wasn't that fond of her to begin with, but that just sealed it.

  • Sara_Tonin00

    Um...if there's an ick factor in this, how about we rephrase it as: Aging movie star Michael Douglas banged his best friend's young ingenue daughter.

    (if this is even true)

  • e jerry powell

    A) true. As I said above, it was all over as a series of blind items, then was confirmed outright some months later.

    B) I like to think that M. Douglas was not chasing after Bruce's daughter, because that would be so uncool. At least the other way around it's just so Jerry Springer. And Gwynnie was quite the climber at the time (which is just stupid, since she's a producer's daughter, for fuck's sake).

  • Sara_Tonin00

    who said anything about chasing? but if you're talking about judgement...

  • dizzylucy

    When I first read your post I assumed you were just talking about their roles in the movie...now I'm seeing otherwise, and ew.

  • e jerry powell

    Nope. It was all over the scandal sheets for weeks, and I can't remember who it was that actually confirmed all the blind items, but I don't think it was him.

  • TWoPFan

    Yeah, I would have done a pre Catherine Zeta-Jones Douglas too. More power to her.

  • e jerry powell

    Oh, don't get me wrong, circa The China Syndrome, I'd have been all up in that bidness.

  • AngelenoEwok

    So...it was only sketchy because he was her dad's friend? I dunno, maybe I can see that (my dad doesn't really have friends that aren't a) related to us or b)married to my mom's friends, so any analogous situation I can think of is SUPER sketch). But as long as they were both single and consenting and what not, I don't find it egregious enough to put someone in the hate pile forever.

  • Bedewcrock

    Wait, what??? Who?

  • e jerry powell

    Gwyneth fucked a pre-Catherine Zeta-Jones Michael Douglas during production of A Perfect Murder.

  • Double-bleh. That's awful. Glad I just ate, otherwise I'd be going hungry.

  • Bedewcrock

    Bleh. Ewww and bleh.

    I shall now call her Elektra.

  • e jerry powell

    Even though it's just a near-approximation, it counts.

  • Forbiddendonut

    I still like a lot of these people: Brad Pitt, RDJ, Gwyneth, Johnny Dep, Angelina Jolie... And the rest I never really cared enough about to love/hate.
    And, wow, another Pajiba piece ripping on Gwyneth Paltrow and Goop. Super original and refreshing. Good stuff!!
    If we're going to down this well-worn path again, I think it's high fucking time we find some reason to post the "Unborn" poster again, so I can see my girl Odette Annable's backside. It's been ages. Get on it, Overlords.

  • No Pithy Name

    I like the well-worn path of which you speak. It has that photo of Carla Gugino on it. You know the one. And yes, I have posted this comment before. It bears repeating.

  • Bedewcrock

    I have to say out of this entire list I haven't really learned to hate Cameron Diaz. Her interviews aren't as insufferable as the other nine and I did kinda like Bad Teacher. So there's that. She was kinda good in a movie about someone who's terrible. What argument am I making here?

  • Jezzer

    I've never understood the Cameron Diaz hate. At worst, she's a bit of a tryhard.

  • NateMan

    I haven't learned to hate Diaz either; I've ALWAYS hated her with a passion. I don't know why. It's partly the natural repulsion I feel towards skinny blondes, and she's always been too good at being an airhead. She just rubs me entirely the wrong way. The only thing she's ever done worth a damn in my eyes was that bondage shoot. But I completely admit that's a 100% subjective opinion, and I don't expect anyone else to share in my level of vitriol towards her.

  • AudioSuede

    I can't help you if you don't like Brad Pitt and RDJ. Nothing I can do.

    I might be able to help you with Sean Penn, but I left my copy of Milk at home.

  • Bedewcrock

    Cate Blanchett was robbed! ROBBED! I'm still so bitter.

  • Still causes an involuntary wash of anger.

  • Lee

    Ugh! Me tooooo. Icky yucky Goopy!

  • Puddin

    I prefer to save my vitriol for Julia Roberts. Ellen Burstyn deserved all the awards for everything for Requiem for a Dream.

  • Shonda

    No shit! I will never let that go. Never.

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