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Box-Office Confirmation Demonstrating Why Today's Biggest Comedic Actors Seldom Do Drama Even When They're Capable

By Dustin Rowles | Posted Under Seriously Random Lists | Comments (22)



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This is one of those common sense posts where it’s often nevertheless enlightening to see actual numbers to back up obvious theories. Of the five actors currently best known for making broad comedies right now, there are still movies that each of them have made that most of us adore: Sandler in Punch-Drunk Love, Ferrell in Stranger than Fiction, Carrey in Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, Carell in Little Miss Sunshine and Stiller in The Royal Tenenbaums. We know they’re capable of making good films and, indeed, the list of smaller, more dramatic roles on each of these gentlemen’s resumes is (mostly) impressive.

So why do they continue to make broad stupid comedies that make many of us hate them all the more? For the same reason many of us would. The money, of course. But what’s the real-dollar difference between making a 90-minute fart joke and baring your soul?

It’s significant, as you can see below. The list of films in each of these actor’s resumes should also fairly well indicate what will become of Zach Galifianakis’ career, too.


Adam Sandler

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Broad Comedies: Grown Ups, Bedtime Stories, You Don’t Mess with the Zohan, I Now Pronounce You Chuck and Larry, Click, The Longest Yard, 50 First Dates, Anger Management, Mr. Deeds, Little Nicky, Big Daddy, The Waterboy, The Wedding Singer, Happy Gilmore, Billy Madison.

Average Box Office Gross: $111 million.

Riskier More Dramatic Roles: Funny People, Reign Over Me, Spanglish, Punch-Drunk Love.

Average Box Office Gross: $32 million.

Jim Carrey

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Broad Comedies: A Christmas Carol, Yes Man, Fun with Dick and Jane, Lemony Snicket, Bruce Almighty, How the Grinch Stole Christmas, Me Myself and Irene, Liar Liar, Ace Ventura 2: When Nature Calls, Ace Ventura: Pet Detective, Batman Forever, Dumb and Dumber, The Mask.

Average Box Office Gross: $134 million.

Riskier More Dramatic Roles: The Number 23, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, The Majestic, Man on the Moon, The Truman Show, Cable Guy.

Average Box Office Gross: $52 million.

Will Ferrell

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Broad Comedies: Land of the Lost, Semi-Pro, The Other Guys, Step-Brothers, Blades of Glory, Talladega Nights, Bewitched, Kicking and Screaming, Anchorman, Elf, Old School.

Average Box Office Gross: $92 million.

Riskier More Dramatic Roles: Stranger than Fiction, Winter Passing, The Producers, Melinda and Melinda.

Average Box Office Gross: $15 million.


Steve Carell

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Broad Comedies: Dinner for Schmucks, Date Night, Get Smart, Evan Almighty, The 40-Year-Old Virgin.

Average Box Office Gross: $102 million.

Riskier More Dramatic Roles: Dan in Real Life, Little Miss Sunshine.

Average Box Office Gross: $53 million.


Ben Stiller

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Broad Comedies: Night at the Museum: Battle at the Smithsonian, Tropic Thunder, Heartbreak Kid, Night at the Museum, Meet the Fockers, Dodgeball, Envy, Starsky and Hutch, Along Came Polly, Duplex, Zoolander, Meet the Parents, There’s Something About Mary, Mystery Men.

Average Box Office Gross: $217 million

Riskier More Dramatic Roles: Greenberg, The Marc Pease Experience, The Royal Tenenbaums, Keeping the Faith, Permanent Midnight, Your Friends and Neighbors, Zero Effect, Cable Guy.

Average Box Office Gross: $20 million.









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Comments

To be fair, the average grosses for the more serious pictures (quite a few of which weren't marketed solely on the comedian's name) are still a damn sight better than the higher-profle efforts of far too many better qualified dramatic actors. Not as good as, say the $100 million+ that they get for the dumb shit they crank out otherwise, no, but still some credible box office numbers.

Posted by: Jerry at December 7, 2010 1:21 PM

Another concern regarding this list. Aren't the majority of the riskier more dramatic roles from independent and/or low budget films? I wasn't aware Melinda and Melinda, for example, was predicted to be the biggest film of 2005 when, at it's peak breadth, played under 300 theaters. I'd be more interested in seeing the comparison account for profit or per theater averages, but that's a ton of nerd math that I wouldn't wish upon my worst enemy.

Posted by: Robert at December 7, 2010 1:27 PM

The simple answer is that the broad comedies appeal to the lowest common denominator -- feature plenty of dick, fart and poop jokes amongst them -- while the riskier roles require a willingness to see the clown not being funny.

Posted by: Fredo at December 7, 2010 1:27 PM

While I accept the overall point, The Producers is Mel Brooks. I'm sure he would be amused to have his work placed in any category other than broad comedy.

Posted by: Eep at December 7, 2010 1:32 PM

On second though, with regard to the broader point (and Robert beat me to this to some extent), you're treating this as though the actor is the important thing in determining the crowd that sees the movie. I suspect that the genre and public knowledge of the story are far more important. To Robert's list of comparisons, I'd like to add that I think it would be very interesting to find examples where dramatic movies of the similar type from directors of similar stature are made with one featuring a top comedic actor and the other not. I suspect the actor will draw in a few people who might not otherwise stop by--while perhaps at the same time driving away some who like their indies really indie.

Posted by: Eep at December 7, 2010 1:36 PM

Which actor gets you to see a movie of his regardless of trailer, idea concept or concept? Very few people who I say "I'll go see his movies no matter what!"

Posted by: Fredo at December 7, 2010 1:45 PM

The picture of Stiller was able to make me not notice that he looks like a monkey* for a whole nanosecond. That’s a new record. What is it with the salt and pepper hair rendering previously dismissed men attractive, albeit extremely briefly in this case? I'm still on the new Matt Leblanc is what I'm saying. My id is getting saucily quixotic in its dotage.

*I guess that since Stiller is chimp-esque he is technically putting the ape in homo sapien, and not a monkey, but monkey has a "k" sound and therefore is funnier. Or so I've heard. I learned that while watching The Sumshine Boys and noticing that Walter Matthau has got it going on. ENTER! indeed.

Posted by: Mrs. Julien at December 7, 2010 1:47 PM

I look like Walter Matthau.

Posted by: Jay at December 7, 2010 1:52 PM

Eep and Richard,

Umm, you might be missing the bigger picture here.

Big dumb comedy=$$$$
Dramatic role=$

It really doesn't matter if comedian x dramatic movies are great, don't open as widely, do great per screen, or do better than they would with dramatic actor x. It's all about the total paycheck when the day's done.

If you can make the big bucks doing stupid comedy you do it. There aren't many who would do it differently.

The more fun exercise is to predict which of the above guys will follow which predecessor's path:

Tom Hanks--Overwhelmingly dramatic roles
Bill Murray--Quirky comedic roles in smaller budget movies
Steve Martin--mix of sell out Disney type fare and the very occasional sophisticated adult fare.
Eddie Murphy--almost complete sell out
Jerry Lewis-charity/community service
Gene Wilder/Rick Moranis--retirement out of choice
Andrew Dice Clay--Retirement without choice
John Candy--premature death

Posted by: ed newman at December 7, 2010 2:04 PM

Oblique point glancing off Mrs. Julien's...

I was on board with this whole post...yeah, OK, makes sense, uih-huh...uh-HUH...And then I got to Stiller's dorky simian face and my brain went Whoa little dogies! and the spell was broken and all I am left with is Ben Stiller can never overcome his arrestingly freaky-ass visage.

Box office-shmox office.

Posted by: klingonfree at December 7, 2010 2:06 PM

Which actor gets you to see a movie of his regardless of trailer, idea concept or concept? Very few people who I say "I'll go see his movies no matter what!"

Moreover, a lot of the "risky dramatic" roles listed for some of these guys were ensembles. I don't even remember Steve Carrell being in Little Miss Sunshine. I don't know that that really counts.

Posted by: The Wandering Parakeet at December 7, 2010 2:07 PM

I guess an even deeper look would be, of the broad comedies, which of those were truly enjoyable and actually good movies and "funny-ha-ha" instead of "funny-fart-fart."

Sandler: 50 First Dates, The Wedding Singer

Carrey: Ace Ventura, Dumb and Dumber (a stretch)

Ferrell: Anchorman, Elf, Old School

Carell: 40-Year Old Virgin, Date Night

Stiller: Tropic Thunder, Zoolander, There’s Something About Mary

I bet if you remove those movies from the equation, the average box office for their comedies would drop considerably, with the exception of Sandler. And I dunno why, but Sandler makes it really easy to laugh at him, even the fart jokes. He seems like a pretty down to earth guy. Who the fuck else in Doucheywood would ever be nice enough to just randomly have a new Maserati delivered to each of his co-stars' houses to say "Hey man, thanks for doing that movie with me..."

Posted by: PissBoy at December 7, 2010 2:18 PM

Not sure I would qualify A Christmas Carol as a comedy. Mainly because it wasn't funny. At all. Pretty good, but certainly not funny. I thought Carrey was damn impressive in it too, especially as Scrooge. I had forgotten how gifted he is at doing different characters. In Living Color was a LOOOOONNNNNNGGGGG time ago.

Posted by: TylerDFC at December 7, 2010 2:24 PM

Ed Newman- I lost track of the point of the story at some point during posting and basically ended up agreeing with it while saying I was disagreeing.

I do think it would be interesting to see whether big-ticket comedians bump or hurt the box office on the serious indie movies, though.

Posted by: Eep at December 7, 2010 2:56 PM

Fredo- I bet almost everyone on this site has someone like that. I mean maybe not completely regardless of concept, etc, but I bet certain actors get a pretty generous curve from certain viewers.

Posted by: Eep at December 7, 2010 2:58 PM

re: Ben "The Chimp" Stiller. Patently awful anyways...

(1) Stiller in "Cable Guy" was a dramatic role?!? I'll have to take your word, as I still haven't seen that steaming pile...

(2) For all of his comedic roles, he plays the same basic character: obnoxious, detached, over-reaching, befuddled, overwhelmed... Even in Tropic Thunder, which I thought was his best (read: most tolerable) role since "Mary".

Posted by: litmus0001 at December 7, 2010 3:01 PM

I see your point

Posted by: J9 at December 7, 2010 3:03 PM

Riskier More Dramatic Roles: Stranger than Fiction, Winter Passing, The Producers, Melinda and Melinda.

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LOL!!! Did you really classify The Producers are a Riskier More "dramatic" role? He played a Hitler obsessed feaux Nazi for crying out loud, in a movie written about the worst musical ever. The Producers IS A COMEDY.

Memo to author of article:

Watch movie, then classify, and organize it into said snarky article.

Posted by: Southernlass at December 7, 2010 5:38 PM

"Eep and Richard,

Umm, you might be missing the bigger picture here.

Big dumb comedy=$$$$
Dramatic role=$"

Most of us would kill for just $. I guess those extra three dollar signs are the price of self-respect.

Posted by: Steve at December 7, 2010 8:37 PM

All of you are missing the point. Stiller has a FUCKTON of money. Jesus Christ, over 200 million average gross? That's an amount that defies similes.

Posted by: the_wakeful at December 7, 2010 11:51 PM

I wouldn't necessarily call Click an outright comedy. It was funny, yes, but also pretty emotionally compelling and turned out to be a real tearjerker. It doesn't seem to belong lumped in with the rest of the Sandler comedies listed. Not to say I don't love me some Sandler - Billy Madison is still one of my favorite movies, ridiculous and completely sophomoric as it is.

Posted by: Poptart at December 8, 2010 10:00 AM

I'm glad people don't have a lot of faith in stupid sandler.

Posted by: james at December 12, 2010 8:18 PM