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8 TV Characters We Never Thought We'd Come To Love

By Joanna Robinson | Seriously Random Lists | March 4, 2013 | Comments ()


There are some TV characters we hate. With a deep, soul churning disdain. Your Joffrey Baratheons ("Game Of Thrones") or Pete Campbells ("Mad Men"). When they get kicked down or slapped around, we cheer. Then there are those we love to hate. A Benjamin Linus ("Lost"), perhaps. Or our dearly departed Chloe ("Don't Trust the B"). This list is neither of those. It's a list of characters I used to hate but now adore. Characters I thought were being set up as villains but either by dint of twisty storytelling or an absolutely incredible performance, I've come to cherish these ten. I can't believe I ever hated them.

Adam Sackler -- "Girls": This is a big one and the inspiration for this entire list. When "Girls" premiered last year, Adam Driver's character was set up as a sort of sneering sh*tbag. Not that our heart belonged to Hannah, but it hurt to see him so dismissive of her in general. And then 3/4 of the way through last season everything changed. Driver's character grew on us and, as it turns out, we had the whole dynamic wrong. At this point he is, in my opinion, the most sympathetic and relatable character on the show. Dunham writes him the best speeches (two week ago with the carnival prize speech and this week in AA). I could have picked a million other, "better" photos of Driver but I was especially delighted by his interaction with Carol Kane last night. Driver the actor just seemed pleased as punch to be in a scene with her. Who wouldn't be?

Sasha Torres -- "Bunheads": This little prickly pear started out as one of the more noxious components on "Bunheads." None of the younger actresses really had it together when the show started and, in my opinion Julia Goldani Telles was the weakest links. (Though the finest dancer.) Unkind to her friends, petulant and entitled, Sasha was a mean girl through and through. But as we delved into more of her back story and as Telles matured as a performer (yes I know it's only been one season), the Sasha character wormed her way into my heart. Now she's some sort of poor abandoned waif turned Martha Stewart. And I love her.

Jaime Lannister -- "Game Of Thrones": Did you forget that this man started the series by (uh, SPOILER ALERT?) f*cking his sister and tossing little scamps out of tower windows? You did, didn't you? You were so charmed by his prison beard and his interactions with Brienne that you completely forgot what a monster he is. Well, book readers may remember a similar case of amnesia hitting them in Book 3 of the series. Jamie Lannister gets his own POV chapters in "Storm Of Swords" and the whole world view tilts a little. Yeah he's still an incestuous crippler of children, but he's a dashed charming one.

Crosby Braverman -- "Parenthood": The character of Crosby Braverman had a lot working against him. I mean, when "Parenthood" premiered we were expecting Dax Shepard of "Punk'd" and Without A Paddle fame. He's since become beloved fiancé of Veronica Mars and giver of sloth gifts, but we didn't know that then. We also didn't know he was capable of such depth. Crosby Braverman started the show as the undeniable black sheep of the family. Living on a house boat, lying to his girlfriend. Etc. And it's been a slow road to where he is now, but all along the way Shepard played Crosby with such adorable, hapless sweetness that the audience is inclined to merely swat him on the nose with a rolled up newspaper every time he messes up. You see ol' Sw1mf@n down there? She's basically a stand-in for the audience. And Crosby? He brings us to the sloth-loving meltdown tears.

Dahlia Royce -- "Suburgatory": Actress Carly Chaikin's delivery is so weird. You have to see it to believe it. She's never not a valley girl robot. And while her dead-eyed delivery and, once again, mean girl demeanor were initially off-putting, they are now oddly endearing. "Daddy Altman" is a particularly sweet touch.

Cary Agos -- "The Good Wife": Originally cast as a smarmy, yuppy antagonist to the titular Good Wife, Alicia Florrick, Agos has since grown into a fully formed and fully lovely character. I hate Matt Czuchry on "Gilmore Girls" so was prepared to hate him forever here. Damnit. He's too great. Sporting excellent sexual tension with Archie Panjabi and a lovely (though sometimes tenuous) camaraderie with Alicia, he's become one of my favorite in a show of packed to the rafters with monstrously talented actors.

Dr. Mindy Lahiri -- "The Mindy Project": I'm so glad I stuck with this show. I know most people chucked it early on. And I don't blame them. The show was a messy hotbed of too many characters anchored by a wholly unlikable lead. But the show has since toned down Mindy's more abrasive characteristics and she's become a lovely, charming everywoman. A more fashion-focused Liz Lemon. She's lovely to her friends and good at her job. Hapless? Maybe. But this last episode with Seth Rogen (where she, oh yeah, briefly considered planting drugs on him so he would be kicked out of the Army) was a series highlight. Okay so maybe they haven't toned down all her unlikable qualities. But like Jessica Day (grating for the first few episodes of "New Girl") and Leslie Knope (irritating for an entire season) before her, I'm hoping Dr. Mindy Lahiri will become an entirely beloved TV character. It helps that she's surrounded herself with excellent guest stars (BJ Novak, Mark Duplass) and a solid supporting cast (Chris Messina for all the things.)

Daryl Dixon -- "The Walking Dead": Once a redneck *sshole, Daryl has since become the heart and soul of the show and everyone's favorite character. EVERYONE'S. I don't know if it's his penchant for ponchos, his fashionably greasy hair or his adorable way with babies. But he's it, man. You kill him? We riot.

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Comments Are Welcome, Bigots and Trolls Are Not

  • naye in VA

    I see people below that say Andy from PAR but i'd like to throw April in there as well. She was everything I hate about teenagers up until the 94 Meetings episode then somehow she transformed. Plus she and Andy role-playing is always awesome.

  • Shy

    Spike from Buffy
    Khal Drogo from Game of Thrones
    Eric from True Blood. I hated him in first two seasons.

  • mona_sterling

    Yes, yes...Chris Messina for all the things. Or the one thing. IN MY PANTS.

  • Lovely Bones

    I'm ready and willing to get some flak for this, but Tom Haverford was this for me. He was nothing more than the most goddamn obnoxious, grating, arrogant and unhelpful douchenozzle on Parks and Rec for the longest time. I hated him more than Mark and Season One Andy. It wasn't until they started the arc of Entertainment 720 in Lil' Sebastian, then led into its fallout and his brief fling with Ann, that the legitimate sweetness and sympathetic traits to him became apparent. He's hardly my favorite character on the show, but I'm much more warm to him, and I've loved his maturing in the Rent-a-Swag subplot.

  • Donna SHerman

    Actually, I didn't start actually liking him as a character UNTIL the Rent-a-Swag subplot. Before then, I liked moments, but mostly he just irritated me.

  • Lovely Bones

    Retroactively watching his divorce back in season two after having relatively been unaffected by it the first time around also had a solid impact on my being won over by him.

  • pnnylne

    Thomas Barrow - Downton Abbey.

  • poopnado

    Also Zoidberg. I used to be kind of annoyed by him, now every time I see him I start preemptively laughing.

  • poopnado


  • Lovely Bones

    I personally loved Spike immediately, between that delightful drunken crash into the Sunnydale sign, his killing of the Annoying One, and the establishment of his softer side as love's bitch, as his character introduction.

  • Donna SHerman

    Yeah, I went the reverse on Spike. He was fun when he showed up, and then...er, things happened, I won't get into that here.

  • Lovely Bones

    Was it the crappy chip storyline, or perhaps his relationship with Buffy post-The Gift, with the screwed-up relationship, attempted rape and whatnot? The chip I could totally understand, but as far as I'm concerned, The Gift was the finale, season six up through Once More with Feeling is a non-canon, though still awesome, addendum, and everything else can be disregarded. I'm curious, if you're willing to indulge. Otherwise, I get not wanting to talk about it.

  • Donna SHerman

    Well, the chip storyline was stupid for many reasons imo (if you're going to bring science into your supernatural show, at least TRY to have it make sense; and also, be freaking consistent), but not enough on its own to make me hate Spike. He had several legitimately hilarious moments, especially with Giles, that almost made the whole ridiculous thing worth it. This was when they were still admitting that the chip prevented him from misbehaving, but didn't actually fundamentally change his desires.

    Then he became really sweet and I pretty much ignored it - sometimes I "aww"ed, sometimes I rolled my eyes, but mostly I was interested in other things on the show.

    But when it got to the point of stalking, never taking no for an answer, and finally attempted rape, I'd had enough.

    I should make it clear that absolutely none of this is Marster's fault, but at this point (I've seen the whole series and all of Angel as well), I really just hate the whiny little bitch (Spike, that is, not JM). Develop your own personality and stop leaning on women for theirs, DAMMIT!

    Sorry, that's why I didn't want to get into it :p

    ETA: I know a lot of people consider The Gift the final episode in their head cannon. I understand that. Despite Glory, I really really enjoyed s5 as a whole. But the first three seasons were so great, for me, that if I'm going to end the series early in my head, I'm ending it with the high school graduation.

  • Lovely Bones

    The shite from seasons six and seven enrages me as well, don't worry. Although I do have to seriously disagree with you on one part. *Despite* Glory? Glory was my favourite villain of the series, the best Big Bad of the best season, even as great as the Mayor and Angelus were. I'm completely used to everyone preferring the Mayor and season 3, though, so no hard feelings on that.

    And yeah, The Gift is the best possible ending for the series, for me. Of the three greatest seasons, two, three and five, I lean in favor to 2 and 5 because they're where the series focuses on the necessity of personal sacrifice that is inherited in the role of the Slayer. I adore that theme, and they pull it off so well with the Angelus and The Key arcs. Graduation Day is largely just really entertaining more than anything. Not knocking it or anything, it's a great finale, plenty of great character moments and whatnot.

    I also don't want to knock season four too hard, as much as Adam sucks and a lot of the season is problematic, it's still streets ahead of six and seven. I adore the Tara and Willow relationship's development so much that I even find 6 comparatively tolerable to 7, with *Kennedy* and the melodrama not being compensated for with good humor and levity, and all of the goddamn inspirational speeches. . *Guh*.

    BTVS truly brings out the rage in both of us, as much as we both clearly love it, huh? That's practically the definition of passion.

  • Donna SHerman

    I know my opinion of Glory is pretty standard, but her acting really did bother me. The character itself, I had less of a problem with. The Mayor remains my favourite villain, though.

    I'd definitely agree with you that 2, 3, and 5 are the best seasons. I think the reason I'd choose 3 rather than 5 as an endpoint is because most of my favourite characters were happier then; Giles, Cordy, Willow with Oz (I didn't start actively loving Tara until she started giving Spike shit a couple of episodes before they killed her off; so THAT was frustrating); the end of high school just felt like a natural end point, even if it was a pity that we got only 2 good (well, great) seasons out of it.

    Kennedy was THE WORST. Season 7 was SUCH a slog, and what they did to Giles? Ugh. It might be obvious, but he was my favourite character, and totally assassinating him JUST to plant a red herring that never amounted to anything was SUCH a waste!

    But yeah, one thing you can say about Whedon shows is that there's a LOT to love, and a lot to hate.

  • Lovely Bones

    Ah, that explains a lot. If a happy ending is well-earned, built up to and whatnot, and most importantly, I'm genuinely happy for the characters that get their happy endings, then I'll definitely be fine with it, and may even love it. However, I'm much easier to be won over by ending on a bittersweet or outright sad/dark moment, like Buffy's heroic sacrifice.

    I can see where you're coming from on the actual performance of Clare Kramer as Glory. As for Oz, I love him, and accept the weak handling of his exit since Seth Green pulled that shit on them at the last minute, but I love Tara more. Both of them certainly benefit from being the good (fuck you, Kennedy!) love interests of my favourite character.

    As a side note, I'm glad that we're on the same page regarding all of the crap in six and seven. Nothing that makes a bond quite like mutual frustration over part of something mutually adored. I didn't really get the opportunity to be a part of the BTVS fandom, being a bit younger than probably a lot of Pajibans are, so it makes me happy to be talking with a fellow Buffy fan outside of the couple people in my immediate proximity.

  • Donna SHerman

    It's interesting you say that - I only watched all of Buffy and Angel in one big binge a couple of months back for a little life project I'm doing (don't worry, it's not all TV related), so I totally missed out on the fandom aspect as well.

    I vary pretty wildly one whether I prefer the happy or bittersweet ending to a story. I think, to me, what matters is how natural the bittersweetness seems - if it feels tacked on, just to make everyone miserable, or just to subvert expectations, it doesn't sit as well as a natural happy ending would. Just the same, if everything is twisted in order to make everyone as happy as they possibly can be, it also feels cheap and unearned, and I'd rather have the bittersweet, or outright morose ending. For Buffy, I think both endings were earned at the time. I guess my preferences for the early head!canon ending is simply perfectionism - there's no s4 slump, no clumsily handled character transitions, and only an upward trajectory. But to each their own, right?

    Honestly, when I unleash the inner Buffy-watcher within, I can talk for AGES. When I watched the whole series, I wrote pages and pages and pages of my reaction on my blog, just because. I've enjoyed other shows I've watched for the project more, but no entry has ever been as long as the Buffy one. There's a lot to talk about!

    I'm really enjoying this conversation; I don't usually get too involved with Pajiba comments (I'm just lazy - I know once I get caught up in it, I'll never stop, see this as an example :P), although everyone talks about what a marvelous place the comment section is. It is really nice to discuss and connect with respectful and intelligent people who have similar tastes :)

  • Lovely Bones

    Believe me, if there was some way I could justifiably retcon the weak parts of season four out of the series' trajectory, I would. It really just makes me regret that Maggie Walsh's actor had that other contract commitment, so she had to be killed off and Adam was introduced. She would've stuck as the Big Bad if that hadn't happened, which would've taken a significant chunk of my problems with season 4 away. I really enjoyed her as a character, and am generally just always glad to see a well-written, non-stereotypical female villain.

    And yeah, I could probably talk about Buffy for an inexhaustible amount of time. I have two friends that I occasionally discuss it with, but it's primarily with my brother that I talk about the Buffyverse, including him telling me how awesome Angel (the series) was. He and I have what we call 'The Four B's,' the subjects that the two of us are literally capable of discussing endlessly, which are Buffy, Batman and Breaking Bad. Breaking Bad benefits from our clashing, but equally valid perspectives on much of the series, particularly Walt, while Batman of course has an absurd amount of material in it, even if most of it is crap.

    Oh, and thank you so much, really. I have really enjoyed our conversation as well. I'm very new to actually commenting on here, at least commenting with disqus, but I also tend not to get too invested in commenting generally, although I had this absurdly lengthy discussion in anticipation of Game of Thrones' new season over on Uproxx. As much as I enjoy just off-handedly making goofy remarks to other people on here, I love both the opportunity to discuss one of my favourite television series at length and to do so with great company like yourself.

  • Donna SHerman

    Aw, thank you!

    Discus tells you when you've had a response, unlike the old system, so I find I'm more likely to chat here.

    I've never seen Game of Thrones. Part of me really desperately want to watch it, but a much louder part of me wants to read the books first. And the problem with the books is that the series isn't finished yet :P I'm sure I'll get around to it eventually. The only reason I have for not watching Breaking Bad is that I'm not ready right now to devote the time and energy a good but depressing TV show is going to take from my life! I'm currently working for a Holocaust organization, and I'm really just watching comedies these days, you know? Thank goodness that I have the luxury of taking that break from badness, of course.

    I don't know if you'd be at all interested, but here's the thing I wrote about Buffy when I saw it:


    Again, it's about 500 pages long, so believe me I won't feel offended if you don't. I just thought I'd share because when I feel bursting with thoughts about TV or other media, I like to read anything about that media and just...vent/rant/babble/reminisce.

  • Lovely Bones

    To clarify, I'll be off sleeping for the time being, but I did read through that entire passage, and poked around a little bit elsewhere on that blog. I'll happily talk to you again another evening. I can at least say that I found that impressively large rant on seven seasons of Buffy to be delightful, even as our experiences with and feelings on the show clearly differed.

  • Donna SHerman

    Haha, I'm impressed! And thanks again for the complement :) I think it's bed time for me as well, really. 'Night.

  • Blarghl

    I vote Jess from New Girl. I've never really liked Zooey Deschanel (I didn't hate her really, just found her incredibly annoying) and she was absolutely unbearable for the first few episodes, to the point where I almost gave up on the show. But by the end of the first season she had gotten tolerable, and by now she's won me over to the point where I actually like her character.

  • with Daryl it's easy if u know him like we boondock ppl do :) i mean , it is to be expected since everything Norman does is awesome:) i still think he isn't given enough credit of how good of an actor he is:D

  • Ben

    I was expecting to hate Chris Trager in Parks and Recreation, at first he came smarmy, fake weasel dude. Until you begin to realize that all his excitement and happiness is completely genuine, and when he tells everyone how amazing they are he 100% means every word.

  • dizzylucy

    Yes! I didn't like him at first, but when he got the flu, looked at himself in the mirror, and told himself to "stop...pooping" it changed his whole dynamic. And once they gave his backstory, I was mush. I love how sweet and fatherly/big brotherly he is with Andy too.

  • apsutter

    Plus he was so damned sweet during the bachelor parties episode. He made each individual party exactly what that person would like the best. He's one of my favorite characters in a show with dozens of great ones.

  • Donna SHerman

    Ooh! Morgan from Chuck!

  • Lindsey Gregory

    After last week's episode, I hate Merle a little less too.

    AY DIOS MIO...

  • emmelemm

    It's actually difficult to hate Michael Rooker, even though he more often than not plays total assholes/bad guys.

  • chantal

    I don't know what this says about me, but I liked Adam (Girls) from the very beginning.

  • Cherith Cutestory

    i'm not sure if you're limiting your list to currently running tv shows, but i would have definitely included presbolooski (i have no idea how to spell his name and i refuse to take the time to look it up) from the wire.

    he went from being a hapless dip shit to being the most redeeming character on the show.

  • Joe Grunenwald

    Since people are adding their own suggestions from shows past, I would argue that Buddy Garrity on FRIDAY NIGHT LIGHTS deserves a spot.

  • Teresa G

    Yes! I could not stand him in the first season, couldn't even watch his scenes without snarling at him. I don't remember when he grew on me but he was a favorite before the show was over. I'm re-watching FNL on Netflix and it's weird how much I don't dislike him even in the first season now that I have hindsight.

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  • Aratweth

    WHERE IS BOYD CROWDER?? Dude started on Justified as essentially a neo-nazi red shirt, destined for death in the first episode. He's still a bad, bad man with a bad, bad hairdo, but he's arguably the show's favorite character, charming white and black hat characters alike with his pocketwatch-wearing, hillbilly dancing, philosophical self. His romance with Ava is the sweetest part of the show, and Boyd is so damned awesome, we don't even care that he's an oxy dealing shakedown artist/murderer, and that's saying something.

  • lowercase_ryan

    I contend that he was never truly hated. He's always been the show's anti-hero.

  • JoannaRobinson

    See, I always loved Boyd because of my weakness for Walton Goggins....and his teeth.

  • Steph

    This. A million times.

  • prairiegirl

    I'm surprised that Jesse Pinkman from Breaking Bad was not listed. I disliked his character at the start of the series but he has won me over completely the last couple of seasons. I'm really rooting for him to separate himself from Walter/Heisenberg before it's too late.

    And I agree wholeheartedly about Adam on Girls. He's great and I love every episode he is in lately. Note to Lena Dunham: more Adam scenes moving forward, please.

    Shout out for the Crosby love, too. My sister and I just adore him and that speech he gave Julia was pitch perfect in that episode.

  • Lovely Bones

    Jesse was just a grating, unlikable punk for those first three episodes, outside of pity for that first moment when he falls out of the window, but then he was just completely turned around with that fourth episode, everything with his parents and little brother. Such a great and sudden shift. Hank's evolution is just as impressive, no doubt about it, 3-19, but the character that's most affected me in this regard is in fact Marie.

    The writers clearly didn't really know what to do with her at first, so we had the whole kleptomania as a way of coping with stress idea briefly pop up while she just generally acted self-centered. I was just really irritated with how poorly written she was, but then her screentime was minimized for a while, until seasons 3 and 4. When her relationship with Hank was developed as he got in trouble over beating Jesse and began recovering from the fight with the Cousins, I was won over on her writing. And then my sympathies were finally bought for her over season four, as Hank took out his frustrations about his state and job on her, and she was remarkably patient and understanding with him. Her relationship with Skylar has been built nicely as well, but all of that was what primarily transformed her from the main cast's weakest link to a solid, fairly likable side character.

  • Three_nineteen

    Breaking Bad. I can't believe that show made me love Walter White and hate Jesse Pinkman and Hank Schrader in the first season and then worked its ass off to completely turn my feelings around by the last season.

  • Logan Echolls. ALWAYS and forever.

  • Lucie

    I love when I introduce new people to this show and they spend the first part of the season wanting Veronica and Duncan to get back together. Goddamn Duncan.

  • I was that guy.

  • Jezzer

    I still am that guy. DUNCAN 5EVAH!

  • Donna SHerman

    I can not BELIEVE how much I hated Logan for the first half of season 1. And just as strongly, I can not BELIEVE how much I loved him ever after. I have never experienced such a strong turnaround on a character before. Of course, I've never hated a character quite so much on first sight before.

  • Rochelle

    I would like this a million times if I could.

  • kimk

    For sure. If you would have told me after I watched the pilot that I'd be shipping Logan and Veronica so hard by the end of the season I would have thought you were crazy.

  • Lauren_Lauren

    Last week I saw a Daryl Dixon/Norman Reedus look-alike at the hardware store, goofing adorably with his little girl, and my heart skipped a beat.

  • mairimba

    BAWLING at my desk just watching that gif of Crosby and Julia. That show, man. If I ever need a good cry I just need to play ANY episode of Parenthood.

  • Bert_McGurt

    Man, I was re-reading the first half of TWD books yesterday, and I kept thinking "this sh*t would not stand if Daryl were around". All this conflict about wasted ammo and loud gunshots? Poof - solved by the power of crossbow!

    It's almost like he's taken up some of comic Michonne's bada**ery. Which I found interesting considering what she was packing at the end of last night's episode.

    And PS: Disqus? You are an asterisk for forcing me to censor my posts like this all the time. Do you know what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?

  • Anna von Beav

    This is what happens when you feed a stoner scrambled eggs.

  • Conor

    Absolutely nailed it with Jaime, Joanna, particularly the comment about his POV chapters in ASoS.

    Dude goes from being a one-dimensional asshole to being one of the best, most sympathetic and likable characters going. At least for me, anyway.

    Another one for the list should be Nick Miller from New Girl. Started off as the grumpy, semi-straight man character of the show, who seemed destined to be NG's Ross, but how I was pleasantly, gloriously wrong.

  • Donna SHerman

    I kind of liked Nick right from the beginning, but I way over-identify with him, so...that probably had a lot to do with it. Dropped out of law school? Working crap jobs that demand nothing of you because that's all you think you can handle? Hating those damn kids and sky rats clogging up your lawn/rooftop view? Oh, Nick.

  • Cordelia. Where is Cordelia on this list?

  • Lovely Bones

    Cordy won me over fairly easily, at least as far as I remember. I pretty much loved her, albeit nowhere near as much as my favorite characters, onward from dating Xander and through season 3. And I still have a lot of presumable character development to get through, as I never watched Angel. Although, I'm hardly looking forward to the resolution with her coma and Joss being petty.

  • poopnado

    I only liked Cordy circa Xander dating. I felt really bad for her, but then got annoyed with her again. But I'm working through Angel now, so that might change.

  • Donna SHerman

    I never hated her, personally. First, she was hilariously bitchy, then she just became more and more awesome. But there was never any hate between us :p

  • Joe Grunenwald

    Cordy had her moments, but I still think she was fundamentally unlikeable. Especially after she and Connor hooked up. ICK.

  • lowercase_ryan

    I will fight anyone that hates/hated Chloe.

  • BWeaves

    I haven't even gotten through Season 2 of GoT's yet and I love Jaime Lannister. Maybe it's because I watched Headhunters in between seasons, and Jaime seems tame compared to the prick he played in Headhunters.

  • Rocabarra

    SUCH a great movie! And you will certainly love Jaime even more once you finish the season!

  • Tinkerville

    I'd also add Andy Dwyer on Parks and Rec since first season Andy was an awful person. Keeping his leg cast on so he could keep being waited on by Anne? Not cool.

  • JoannaRobinson

    Andy was my #9!

  • Pants-are-a-must

    Dahlia Royce would've been the Schmidt of Suburgatory, had it not been for the fact that almost the entire B cast of that show is nothing short of comedic geniuses.

  • Joe Grunenwald

    I am genuinely surprised at how much I like Cary Agos now.

  • dizzylucy

    Me too. Logan on Gilmore was so annoying I thought for sure I'd never like Cary, but I do. Plus he's definitely the underdog, and I'm rooting for him.

  • F'mal DeHyde

    I have an age-inappropriate crush on the actor. Damn, that boy is simmering.

  • lowercase_ryan

    same here, I was SO pissed at Alicia last week.

  • Joe Grunenwald

    She was in a tight spot. Why she didn't go to the other 4th years and tell them what was going on, I don't know. But I like that Cary and Alicia are friends now, and I hope they still can be (I haven't seen last night's episode yet so I don't know how things shook out there).

  • lowercase_ryan

    watch this week's. There's more.

  • toblerone

    + 1000 for Dahlia Royce.

    One Additional:

    Officer Dewey Dudek - C. Thomas Howell - Total dick, but he is often the pressure release valve for the other patrolmen on Southland.

    Plus he's Ponyboy (to me anyways).

  • DeltaJuliet

    Oh. Mygod. I have watched this show religiously, HATED Dewey ( I still hate Dewey) and I never ever realized that was C. Thomas Howell. Wtf?? It's like a revelation and now I don't know how I missed it all this time. Wow.

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  • muertemaria

    I love the Mindy Project. It is the only show that I text lines to my friends because I am laughing so hard. I want more people to love it.

  • Ima try it, based on your love. Who knew I was so suggestible?

  • QueeferSutherland

    Jamie Lannister is a strong and rather prescient pick.

    Some others:
    - Namon (The Wire seasons 4 & 5)
    - Al Swearengon (Deadwood)
    - Boyd Crowder (Justified)
    - Schillinger (Oz)
    - Pete Campbell (Mad Men)
    - Olivia Munn (real life)

  • prince_of_montagu

    Good choices with Namond and Schillinger. Ol' Vern was a racist, awful sonofabitch but a GREAT villain.

    Namond? After Michael punched him in the face, i think that's when everything turned for me. Namond was never meant for a life on the corner.

  • csb

    Namon is a good choice, but Bodie is the one I'd have to go for from The Wire.

  • BODIE. YES. I went from absolutely hating him after what happened with Wallace, to bawling my eyes out over him.

    Although, after rewatching The Wire, I realize that my original anti-Bodie stance might have been a bit harsh. He didn't really have much of a choice with regards to Wallace.

  • Boothy K

    Genuinely sad when what happened to him happened (I now it's a bit old to be spoiler sensitive, but, hey, just trying to be sensitive to those ABSOLUTE MORONS who haven't watched it yet). I've watched all seasons three times and I always love seeing him again. Him and Omar.

  • QueeferSutherland

    Bodie is awesome but I never really disliked the guy to have to come around on him. Namon, on the other hand....

  • Kballs

    No way on Pete Campbell. That guy is a doooouuuuuuuche.

  • QueeferSutherland

    He kinda is. But he's also the only one who gave a rat's ass about SCDP, and he wasn't even a partner.

  • Kballs

    JUNIOR partner. And yes, he carried the torch for awhile. But he was such a damned douche while doing it! Gah! I fucking hate that character.

  • Ingrid

    He cared so much about SCDP he tricked out a co-worker by taking advantage of her struggling single motherhood. He was kind of proud of himself for that.

  • Stony Tony

    I will never be able to get the image of Juno's dad raping a man using engine grease away from my psyche. NEVER.

  • Captain_Tuttle

    I never came around to loving Schillinger, but damn do I love the actor. The insurance commercials always confuse me - he's trustworthy and steadfast, but I've also seen him naked & raping people. So very confusing.

  • Stony Tony

    Schillinger was never meant to be loved. He was always meant to be the manipulative, dickhead, fuck-faced racist asshole you could depend on to raise hell. His last bit of humanity was lost after what he did to his own flesh and blood, and from then on he only got worse (in a good way, though I do especially enjoy the first season for the Beecher bits).

  • Captain_Tuttle

    I guess I should clarify: I know the character of Schillinger was not meant to be loved, but I was always floored by the performance.

  • Bert_McGurt

    Yeah, I never came around to Schillinger. Keller and (Ryan) O'Reilly though...

  • Stony Tony

    Schillinger is plainly asshole and the one meant to be considered the villain boss-man in a prison full of murderers, thieves and con men. O'Reilly was my second favorite character behind Beecher, and I kinda felt for him when he had to deal with that crazy bitch, even after what he did to whatsherdoctorface. Plus, he still had an extremely human side you could see in his love for his brother and the guilt he felt for what happened. Fantastic fucking show, doesn't get nearly the recognition it deserves. And to think, it's all on HBOGO in fantastic quality to be watched at any time...maybe i'll give it another viewing this summer.

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