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5 Prodigiously Talented Actors I Wish I Knew Nothing About

By Joanna Robinson | Seriously Random Lists | January 18, 2013 | Comments ()


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Obviously personal exposure comes with the territory of fame. We're fascinated by celebrity, their image and our perception of that image. There's a whole thriving industry based upon picking apart and cobbling back together fleeting glimpses into these stranger's lives. We think we know them. We make assumptions and claim insight into their motivations. There's something very broken about that system. It's the system that Jodi Foster was (inarticulately) calling out last Sunday at the Golden Globes.

Nonetheless there are a good many people who manage to keep their personal lives fairly discreet. I'm not saying it's easy for celebrities to do so, but I am saying there's a huge difference between making your sexual preferences known and becoming, to quote Foster, Honey Boo Boo Child. But it's inevitable that public perception or the required self-marketing aspect of Hollywood will flavor our reaction to a performer and, by extension, their performance. There are some "ill-behaved" actors whom I don't regret disliking. I was never monstrously attached to Lindsay Lohan, Charlie Sheen or even Katherine Heigl so my reaction to them his more "why aren't some of those people in jail" than anything else. But there are some outrageously talented people whose "antics" or "demeanor" or downright criminal activity stains their otherwise impressive gifts. There are certainly things we can do to avoid knowing too much about someone: avoid gossip sites and magazines for one. But I'd argue that these five have been unavoidably irritating or off-putting. And that's too bad because hot damn are they talented.

Anne Hathaway: We've talked a good bit about the Hathaway backlash on the site this week. And many of you are rightfully confused why the backlash exists in the first place. (For the record Anne is far and away the least offensive on this list. It's not even close.) That being said, Hathaway had just barely worked her way back into the collective good books this year based on her fantastic performances The Dark Knight Rises and Les Miserables. But the breathy, wide-eyed unctuousness that's hanging around her like a cloud this awards seasons is grating as hell. And that's unfortunate. Because though she may not always choose to flex 'em (*cough* One Day*cough*), the girl has major chops.

James Franco: After a banner year in 2010, Hathaway's erstwhile Oscars co-host blew his reputation to smithereens. His sh*tty, pretentious, condescending attitude came through on Oscar night, via his Twitter account and bizarre cultural commentary. (Really, Franco, you have an opinion on "Girls"? Okay, I have an opinion on Your Highness.) Watching "Freaks and Geeks" reruns on Netflix, however, it's impossible to deny that Franco has always had some major talent. This is one of my favorite episodes. Come for the pathos, stay for the pay-off.

Joaquin Phoenix: Phoenix appears to share much of Franco's "I'm too good for this sh*t" attitude. And, listen, it's fine to not want to be a part of the Hollywood machine or to not give a crap about acting awards. It's not really cool, however, to crap all over anyone else who does. I thought I was done with Phoenix after his year of living beardiously, but the man was beyond great in The Master. In fact, only Daniel Day Lewis could outstrip that performance. Phoenix gave everything over. It was a full-body effort and you have to admire someone who can steal every scene from Philip Seymour Hoffman. I may not like Phoenix the man. But the actor? Holy hell.

Christian Bale: Another transformative performer, Bale is unquestionably one of the finest, most chameleonic actors of his generation. If only he weren't also an abusive, arrogant prick. If only.

Mel Gibson: My hatred for this one is so intense I couldn't even tolerate him in the role of Jodi Foster's supportive friend. I honestly think he is human garbage. Braveheart was always a sentimental favorite of mine, but when I watch it now, I can only see the crazy gleaming out of those blue lamps of his. Disappointing. So damned disappointing.







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  • Even Stevens

    John Cusack via Twitter. Oy vey.

  • Aeryn

    Yea I got soured on Anne, she has really shown her colors lately. All the list I can agree with. Gotta add Sean Penn as well. Paltrow However the GOOP you spell it.

  • Jimbo Jones

    Get off that Mel Gibson shit already. Oh you hate Mel Gibson? So does everybody else. Why? Because everybody else told you to hate Mel Gibson. This list was kinda interesting to it unraveled at the end. Bandwagons... they're fun to jump on 4 years too late.

  • Katy21

    Ummm, really, nothing about Roman Polanski??? When did alchoholic racists become BIGGER scum bags than child rapists, hmm?

  • e jerry powell

    Maybe it's because he hasn't been getting a lot of press lately, but I think John Cusack has more than earned a spot. Maybe he's offset by the bundle of joy that is his sister.

  • Az

    And still, Charlie Sheen isn't brought up once on this list. Amazing.

  • Jo 'Mama' Besser

    He was brought up a given, like Lindsay Lohan, but not mourned because the writer hadn't felt any true personal attachment towards them. I think it's crazy that people give up with the 'Oh, that Charlie!' just because he admits that he acts like a madman after the fact. You keep shooting those girlfriends, you scamp.

  • Orleanas

    I'm not really sure as to when I fell out of love with Anne. It might have been around the time I saw Rachel Getting Married. My strong negative response to her now is interesting because I did want her to succeed, especially because she was the only one of the four young actors in Brokeback Mountain to not have gotten nominated for an Oscar that year. I sensed that awkwardness in her and rooted for her to overcome. Now, her wide-eyed wonderment at winning her awards makes me very sad--for Jake Gyllenhaall who I really wanted to have the accolades and career that Anne seems to be getting right now. Maybe that's really why I'm tired of Anne right now.

  • c

    What the fuck has Heigl done that she deserves jail time for? Lohan and Sheen I can see, but Heigl?

    Seriously?

    Far as I can tell, all she's done is quite justifiably made some comments about the misogynistic tendencies in Judd Apatow's movies.

    As for Phoenix, sorry but you can't BE part of the whole 'Hollywood experience/machine and then bitch and whine and blub about it. You loathe it so much, go do rep theater in Saint Louis, otherwise SHUT THE FUCK UP.

  • e jerry powell

    I attribute it to the Shelley Long-ness of it all.

  • F'mal DeHyde

    She made her comments at the height of Apatow's popularity here. He's not quite as popular now but her remarks will live on in infamy.

  • theotherone

    Bono - Tax evading preachy MTF!

  • KV

    I am surprised that nobody here mentioned the incident where James Franco publicly ridiculed an NYU professor (which might have led to his eventual firing) who had given him a "D" on a course.
    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/l...

  • LibraryChick

    No, students earn grades (as opposed to teachers just giving them out). Franco was probably more annoyed about knowing he deserved to earn the "D" more than anything else.

  • kirbyjay

    Tommy Lee Jones. I love him but Jesus Christ, don't go to awards shows if they make you irregular

    Frank Sinatra. One of the biggest assholes on the planet

    Someone should really explain the deal with the devil to these people. You get to do the work you love, live a fab life with riches beyond your wildest dreams, wear designer clothes, live in palatial homes, travel the world, constantly told how fabulous you are, be relieved of the mundane life duties of the little people ( child care, housework, car repairs, cooking, paperwork, planning, etc etc ET CET ER A.....) and in exchange.....you lose your privacy.

    And they still complain.

  • Arran

    If there's one allegedly abusive person I hope the allegations aren't true about, it's Bill Murray. Please. Bill. Don't let it be true. I couldn't handle it.

  • Az

    You mean Yosemite Sam. I think Bill Murray gets away with it because his talent trumps his douchery and because he's not Chevy Chase.

  • e jerry powell

    Yes. Being Not Chevy Chase has garnered him quite a bit of goodwill over the decades.

  • in_heaben

    Ugh, long-ass work day on Friday? Preach, joanna

  • MJ

    They were both good in Signs, even though they're both crazy.

  • I'm torn because I'm a big fan of Christian Bale's acting but he went off on the DP basically for doing his damn job. Now I don't know if Shane Hurlbut, the DP of that movie, was using an incident meter or a spot meter, the difference being one is in your face and the other can be used from a distance, or maybe it wasn't about a light meter at all...but Shane Hurlbut is just there to make pretty pictures like any DP, and he's exceptionally good at it and one of my favorites. So yeah.

  • Jor

    I know Christian Bale's infamous rant sounded douche-y, but as someone who actually works on sets, I never thought it was that bad . According to the rant, the DP was walking around and messing with lights while an apparently major scene was going on, which is a big no-no. Crew shouldn't really do anything which could distract an actor. There's a shitload of running around on set, but it all should stop during filming. This was apparently a re-occurring problem.

    Also, the quality of the audio sounds like it's coming from the production sound, which means the director never called cut. Christian Bale's a crazy method actor, the rant sounds like he's still in character.

  • Guest

    So this may sound stupid and silly but I've really just been noticing the seemingly rampant arrogance that runs amuck in Hollywood. Yeah...I know...I just don't normally watch very many interviews. I'm technically "in" to Celebrity culture, but I'm really bad at being a fan of anything. But as I watch interviews and see a bit more of their personalities I feel a sense of unease.

    There's just something...pretentious about a lot of them. Something very much "Oh yes DAHLING, I am amazing", etc...Like Mariah in American Idol, who seemed (at least in the first episode) to bring a lot of things back to her. And I can see why people are feeling uneasy about Anne, watching an interview she was nice and charming but there was just the slight hint of "I am an AC-TOR".

    Maybe I'm reading too much into it though. But yeah, it kinda makes me wish I didn't do some of the digging I decided to do because now its bleeding into the movies and tv I watch.

  • Jo 'Mama' Besser

    Celebrities are annoying as hell. I don't have anything more profound or less trite to say, but I say it genuinely and it's no less of a truth; celebrities are annoying as hell and if you don't turn your head frequently it'll want to explode.

  • marya

    You say there's gambling going on in this establishment? I am shocked! Shocked, I say!

  • Boothy K

    Mel's an alcoholic, which makes for interesting and in is case, very public "bottoms". Gallipoli is one of my favourite movies to this day. The last shot rips my heart out every time. And he was so beautiful then.

  • F'mal DeHyde

    God, wasn't he? I was spellbound watching him in all his movies back then, he was the most beautiful Fletcher Christian in history.

  • What about Paul Newman? I heard he... I mean he... And he...

    Who am I kidding. I've never heard a single bad thing said about him. Man was a saint.

  • e jerry powell

    A damn pretty saint, too. His prettiness moved Tennessee Williams to write reams, and that's never a bad thing, because all the reams Williams wrote mooning over Newman led Newman to start directing.

  • Zirza

    He once put Robert Redford's car into Of those crushing machines and then had it delivered back to him. That's only funny among rich people.

  • dizzylucy

    Mel is the only one on the list I find truly reprehensible.

    Christian Bale, I get the impression he's a decent, albeit intense guy, who just had a really bad day and handled it in a really bad way. He also owned up to it and took responsibility for his behavior, which helps.

    Joaquin and Anne - talented actors made crazy and annoying, in different ways, by awards.

    James Franco bugs me. He seems to fancy himself some sort of multitasking genius, and that every task is worthy of a magazine article and opening gala. Do what makes you happy, but quit trying to prove something and shoving it down everyone's throats.

  • the dude

    Christian Bale: Good guy, all the way.
    Mel: Probably racist because of upbringing, an ok guy with serious problems.
    James Franco: Just a bit narcissistic, but all in all a good man.
    Same goes for Anne.
    Joaquin: What has he ever done to you?
    Sean Penn: Only person who deserves to be on this list.

  • $27019454

    Here's where I completely went into hate territory on Anne/Liza/Jazzhands: The no-underwear thing. It was as if she was ticking off every strategy in the publicity playbook and that was just one more on the list: Chgange your appearance-- check, lose weight and talk about it all over and over -- check, appear with your new beau/husband -- check, give interviews to every every every outlet and talk about how you are a private person who is just well behaved and so above all the other sluts -- check, and then, to top it all off "forget" to wear panties and then be just MORTIFIED about it and refuse to discuss it. Nevermind that none of these strategies work together. They get you press! It's like Rooney Mara a few years ago and Anne decided to up the ante with the no undies thing. And her umbrage! How dare you ask me about it!

    But yeah. James Franco. Freaks and Geeks. Bummer about that.

  • Lisa Bee

    I might be alone here, but does anyone else find that Edward Norton sort of comes across as a pompous, irritable prick in real life too? Yet as soon as the camera is on him I fall in love all over again... I just don't know.

  • Az

    He was engaged to the Widow Cobain and she was considerably less insane when she was with him. I don't know whether that is bad or good.

  • TwentififthHour

    Norton has a reputation of being insufferable, which sucks. Notice he has rarely worked with anyone twice.

  • mairimba

    I wouldn't have Bale on this list. Many of us in similar situations have lost our shit and acted pretty much the same. At least I have and I'm like the most passive person ever. Just don't fuck with my work.

  • Slashie

    I think it's less that, and more "screaming at his mother and girlfriend so hard the cops get called"

  • ScienceGeek

    I think the mother thing has more to do with what sounds like a very ugly divorce between his parents. My Dad had one of those, before he married my mum, and my guess is, Bale's mistake was to lose it in a nice hotel, instead of a white-trash neighbourhood like mine, where people only bother to call the cops for gunshots or explosions. Screaming matches merit nothing more than an eye-roll.

  • Slashie

    That makes a lot of sense. I guess we'll never really know what happened there, it's just that plus the DP incident make me wary of him. I'd be less likely to believe a reasonable explanation if it happens again, I think.

  • ScienceGeek

    That's fair. The DP thing is deserving of at least a serious side-eye. I'm really just giving him a semi-pass on the mother thing out of crazy-family solidarity.

  • Az

    I wouldn't have Bale on this list either. Especially after the aftermath of the movie theater shooting.

  • Bert_McGurt

    Anne Hathaway has always kind of struck me as the type of person who took up acting to try to get over a serious case of shyness and improve her self-esteem. Now she's really comfortable when in character but is still pretty self-conscious when she has to just be "Anne" - hence the awkwardness in interviews or accepting awards. Particularly when they're talking about her weight, appearance, or (thanks, creepy Matt Lauer) her lady-bits.

  • Yan

    I genuinely find it difficult to understand why Anne Hathaway is included here. Nothing she had done was even remotely close to the douchebaggery displayed by the others. She was never "holier than thou", she didn't have a (semi)public melt down, she was certainly not an out right racist. I don't get it, is it just because you need to include a woman on this list? or is it because she's the it-girls ergo the it-person to hate?

  • Zirza

    I agree she doesn't deserve to be on this list, but personally I got a bit fed up with the constant talk of I CUT MY HAIR FOR THIS FILM, YOU KNOW but to be fair that was probably mostly journalists asking for it. I didn't find out I was supposed to hate her until a week ago.

  • e jerry powell

    I don't hate her, really, but I am kind of sick of finding her mug propped up on a red carpet by a loaner designer dress on TomandLorenzo.com every freaking day. Alas, campaigning for an Oscar is like a second job.

  • BWeaves

    Roman Polanski.

    Actually, most of the directors out there.

  • Zirza

    Polanski pains me. Seriously. I love his films. His biography reads like a Vonnegut novel. Reading interviews with those he worked with tells me he lives up to his reputation of being a little on the dictatorial side. He did something unspeakable and then the court case was bungled in an unspeakable manner. The US justice department is all GIMME THAT EUROTRASH MIDGET, the French are all WE WILL HAVE YOU KNOW HE IS AN ARTISTE and the Swiss are all WE ARE GOING TO HAVE HOT CHOCOLATE NOW AND THINK ABOUT PLACID MOUNTAIN LAKES.

    That was an interesting lesson about international relations.

    But yeah. His films. I like them.

  • NoPantsMcLane

    Yeah, i can't even enjoy his movies after i found out about what he did. Not even Chinatown.

  • Jill

    Yes, a million times yes on this one. I think that many of Polanski's films are wonderful and I keep feeling as though I should hate myself for that.

    It is much the same for me when I hear California Dreamin'. I may be one of the few people who believes Phillips' daughter's claims against him and I find it almost painful how much I love that song and hate that man (assuming the allegations are true) every time I hear it.
    I wish these two would have just yelled at someone.

  • anon33

    I'm replying so late that I'm positive you won't see this but I believe her too. I read his book (hangs head) and some of the stuff he said in there about her....I don't know. It certainly wasn't hard for me to believe her after reading that. Even though he wrote the book he came off as a totally worthless human being.

  • kinnat

    The actor I simply cannot bear to watch, in anything, ever - is Tom Cruise. However, I understand why he is not on this list as it is headed "Prodigiously TALENTED ACTORS ... " - no problem, no connection whatsoever to ol Tommy.

    I love the Lethal Weapon movies and will always enjoy them. I am confused about Mel. I was never this huge fan really, just of the aforementioned 4 movies. I am however a HUGE admirer of Jodie Foster & Whoopi Goldberg - both extremely intelligent women. If they say Mel is being misjudged, if they still love him as their dear friend, I can't help but wonder ... alcohol does NOT always bring the truth, I don't care what anyone says !

  • Devil Child

    Whoopi Goldberg has enough blindspots to strip her drivers license. She attributed Michael Vick's dogfighting ring as a cultural problem, being as Vick's from the "Deep South." What the hell does that make slavery?

    Though it's not just Goldberg's fault, most people are naturally forgiving, and eager to put up blindspots on things that distort the vision of those they admire. People have done the same things for OJ Simpson, Lance Armstrong, and Chris Benoit: it's only natural they'd show the same hand towards Gibson.

  • e jerry powell

    And Roman Polanski, let's not forget.

  • e jerry powell

    That's the one, yep. He's a movie star and hasn't gone anywhere near acting in the whole of his career.

  • Sara_Tonin00

    I wonder why it is that there's backlash against a woman for wanting an Oscar? I mean, don't we expect football players to want the Vince Lombardi? or even more - to be MVP?

    I get it a little - acting is supposed to be higher-minded than that, and a team project to boot - but it's still understandable. I don't hate Hathaway - I find her *surprise* at winning awards disingenous - but I don't blame her for wanting an Oscar, and being unable to contain everything that conjures up when it's so within reach.

  • Ginger

    I wonder why you think gender has anything to do with it?

  • Sara_Tonin00

    Oh, actually, it wasn't necessarily that she is specifically a woman. I suppose I could've said "person" or "actress."

    though now that you mention it, do we ever hear about men campaigning for Oscars?

  • Az

    I guess you've missed what Ben Affleck's been doing for the past few months. And although his efforts may seem to have failed, I am still holding out hope that maybe he will have the biggest payoff of all on Oscar night.

  • Sara_Tonin00

    Yes, I guess I have missed. How has he been campaigning? Anything beyond "for your consideration" ads?

    (btw, saw Argo this weekend - good movie, though I don't think it's a best picture. It'd be more apt to give it a best director.

  • e jerry powell

    I think we were able to forgive someone like Melissa Leo simply because she was so barefaced and blatant about her campaign. Hathaway thinks she's being slick.

  • Az

    Those "for your consideration" ads were off the charts embarrassing.

  • e jerry powell

    But well-styled, you have to admit.

  • Brittaney

    George Clooney's campaign last year was ridiculous. I remember some people being annoyed by that, but not as much as they are with Hathaway's campaign.

  • Nadine

    It often causes me actual pain and sickness to admit Apocalypto is a fucking excellent film, in every way. I know he didn't act in it but I don't care. FUCK YOU GIBSON.

    I also don't know if I believe Christian Bale is actually that bad of a person IRL.I don't know if two accounts of blow ups is enough, given that at least one, I can fully admit I would be capable of, and the second was something that, while ugly, with context was mostly sort of sad.
    I think there are more incidents of his being nice than of abusive. But that's me.

  • e jerry powell

    I'm on the fence simply because Christian Bale is Gloria Steinem's stepson.

    Irrational, I know, but there it is.

  • Nadine

    Don't worry about irrational reasons to hate someone, I hate so many people for such simple things. I hate Jenna Malone because she has a 'smug face' (I don't even know if anyone but me thinks that, but it's my reason)

    Also, exactly. The incident in the hotel with his mother and sister is the one that, in context, is sad. To sound PROPERLY like a fan girl, legend has it he has had an estranged relationship with his mum and sister since he was a kid, and in fact moved to the US at 16 with his dad to get away from them. This may or may not be true, but I am also british and I know what can constitute 'verbal assault' and it really, it can be nothing. You can say fuck to someone once and get in trouble. We are incredibly polite.

  • e jerry powell

    No, I actually like Gloria Steinem, even though I've only met her once. That was supposed to be an up-side.

  • foolsage

    I share your uncertainty about Bale's real character. The time he blew up at the idiot walking back and forth on set was definitely unpleasant, but then he undeniably puts a lot of effort into his roles, and it's hard to stay intensely immersed when some tool is distracting you again and again. I just dunno. He might be a colossal jerk or he might just be someone who really cares about his craft.

  • Devil Child

    He's both, unlimited talent's never been a cureall for being an asshole. James Hetfield fronted and wrote songs for the greatest band of the 80s, and the man has the IQ of a rabbit.

  • Scully

    He did visit the survivors of the Aurora, CO shooting in the hospital. And he did fly out a little boy with cancer and his family to Disneyworld. Plus he's involved in Greenpeace and WWF, two organizations near and dear to my heart, so I will always want to believe he's a nice dude.

    Plus, ya know, BATMAN.

  • Rebecca Hachmyer

    Plus, ya know, LAURIE.

  • Quatermain

    The WWF is near and dear to my heart as well. Hulk Hogan was always one of my favorites, followed closely by Andre the Giant.

  • Scully

    A little more cute panda bear, a little less spandex and baby oil.

  • e jerry powell

    ...and do rag with attached weave tracks.

  • Mel Gibson is a huge one for me. I used to love the guy. He was always so charming in movies, and Maverick is still one of my absolute favorites, but one that I haven't been able to rewatch because I don't want to think of how awful he is in real life. How completely messed up.

    Also? Russell Crowe. I think the guy is an amazing actor. I wish I didn't know how douchy he is outside of movies.

  • F'mal DeHyde

    I think that's where I lost my taste for the guy too. It was really more on Meg Ryan than him since she was married and Crowe wasn't but he ended up dumping her ass when he was through with her and then running back to Australia to marry the long time girlfriend. Jerk.

  • Az

    Similar to this is the distaste I feel for both Claire Danes and Billy Crudup. My disdain for Claire Danes already existed, though the whole Mary Louise Parker thing served to exacerbate it. I hope karma doesn't bite Angela Chase too badly in the ass for that one.

  • e jerry powell

    I'm mostly pissed at Danes for marrying Dancy and spouting forth with his progeny, particularly coinciding more or less with his ever-so-pretty arc on The Big C. I was over Mary-Louise by then because of the mucky descent that Weeds had taken.

  • e jerry powell

    I count fucking Meg Ryan during the shoot for Proof of Life to be just a little douchey. Not a lot douchey, because it takes two to tango.

  • Az

    Plus, considering she was married to Dennis Quaid, she went from the douche frying pan into the douche fire with that move. And she has paid for it. Neither her face nor her career have ever been the same.

  • e jerry powell

    Though the douche gene is certainly noticeable within the Quaid family, not to mention very prevalent in Mellencamp.

  • Pete

    I do love how (almost) everyone here forgets about Fassbender assault allegations.

  • JoannaRobinson

    Okay here's the deal on the Fassbender front. And I think about it a lot, I do. I don't fully buy the story as it stands. I'm sorry, I've grappled with it. But I don't. Not because "oh Fassbender is so dreamy" or any of that bullshit.

    I think this is an interesting read. http://leandralocke.tumblr.com...

    The being said, my Fassbender goodwill/love is dangling by the daintiest thread. Should he so much as look askance at some random barista who made his latte wrong, I'm out.

    So not forgotten, no.

  • carrie

    where is Tom Hardy? he's the one that i know who boasts about to slap his colleagues http://www.tomhardyparty.com/v...

  • Eva

    I for one am really enjoying the Anne Hathaway backlash. I have disliked her for SO long and I am glad to no longer be so alone in that sentiment. Even in her best actressin' scenes I still just can't stand looking at her. She doesn't disappear into her roles. She always seems like she's just consciously trying to impress. And even if she chops off her hair and loses lots of weight, she still has that same stupid face.

    Don't get me wrong, I don't wish her harm or anything. I just wish she would go away.

  • $27019454

    YES yes yes. SO "actressy." So not believable. So taking me out of the movie.

  • GDI

    Unnecessary.

  • Meaning single word comments that could be about the article, other comments, or really anything or nothing in particular? Why, then, I totally agree with you.

  • Kala

    I recently watched Howl. I loved Franco reciting the poem and I appreciated his performance. Then I made the mistake of listening to the commentary with Franco and the film's creators. He's a bright cat who is too eager to show the world how smart he is. He's the guy in class whose voice you hear too goddamn much because he wants to impress the professor. While I think some of this is just the mark of an asshole, I am beginning to think that much of it could stem from insecurity. Either way, I wish he would shut up and just make good films.

  • Jo 'Mama' Besser

    Bleh. When he got that professor fired and started defaming his teaching and on-set career all over town because he gave him a bad grade (the guy showed up to two classes in the entire semester) crossed the line. Of course, the guys who pressed the 'eject' button because he promised them favours are pretty dirty, as well.

  • I've not enough info to comment on Phoenix the person, but I completely agree about Phoenix the actor. THAT guy is a force of nature that could reverse the rotation of the Earth if he Acted hard enough.

  • F'mal DeHyde

    He was the best damn thing in Gladiator.

  • Jill

    My husband and I were just discussing last night whether that will always be his greatest role. I think so. It was his biggest hit, his shot to super-stardom, and it has been a steady decline for him ever since. That's just rough. Because he is a fine actor.

  • Pajiba_Pragmatist

    Walk the Line is pretty darn amazing. It didn't make as much money as Gladiator, but he was pretty phenomenal.

  • Nadine

    He's the only reason I find that film remotely rewatchable. Russell Crowe fuckin' sucks but Phoenix frightened the crap out of me in that film.

  • DeltaJuliet

    No mention of Tom Cruise? I can't see him in anything now without thinking about how crazy he is. Mel is still much, MUCH worse though.

  • Az

    Tom Cruise is RUINED for me too. I can't disassociate his batsh*t insane, Scientology rambling, weirdly hyper, patronizing, tiny lift-wearing self from the characters he plays. It's like he turned into Ben Stiller's parody of himself except crazier.

  • e jerry powell

    Okay, am I the only one in the world who wishes that James Franco would just bone a guy, get it out of his system, and go away? This whole "is he or isn't he" when everyone knows he's not is getting old.

  • Mrs. Julien

    Is there a whole thing about that?

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