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5 Movies That Needed to Remove the Main Character

By Dan Saipher | Posted Under Seriously Random Lists | Comments (47)



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Sometimes the what-could-have-been films that we dream up in our head far exceed what we’re presented with on screen. As studios see it necessary to insert predictable subplots of romance, or try to push a blank slate protagonist on us, we let the better parts of a film become obscured. Perhaps there isn’t enough time to explore the secondary characters and stories, and perhaps their limited time on screen makes them all the more memorable, but we still want more.

Attempting to ignore poor acting performances, the following movies provoke us to wonder what they’d be like without the main character moreso than without the headline actor. While this character certainly changes the context and events within the film, I’d like to believe these movies could still exist without too much alteration.

1. Mary Reilly — Julia Roberts

Gambon. Malkovich. Michael Sheen. Directed by Stephen Frears (High Fidelity, The Queen). An award-winning re-telling of the Jekyll and Hyde yarn in book, and an unmitigated disaster headlined by Julia Roberts on the silver screen. Equestrian jokes aside, and Roberts’ performance aside, Mary Reilly worked in book form because it explored the character’s abusive backstory as well as the historical interests of foggy London. The movie wastes this new perspective through a poorly-written romance and conventional frights and tension. Could the studio-backed (but never realized) teamup of Tim Burton and Daniel Day-Lewis have saved this one?

2. Lock, Stock, and Two Smoking Barrels — Eddy (Nick Moran)

If you’re playing cards with gangsters, you had better figure someone is stacking the deck against you, boy. Poor Eddy should have been known surveillance on that card game was tight. Out of the cadre of Cockney small-time bad boys, Soap, Bacon, and Tom are all better characters in Guy Ritchie’s interconnected chaos. Eddy gets to spend most of the movie in disbelief and dishevelment while everyone else acts cool as a cucumber. In fact, would you have rather given more screen time to Eddy, or his bartender father as played by Gordon Sumner?

3. Do The Right Thing — Mookie (Spike Lee)

Spike Lee’s introductory offering went unrecognized by Oscar envelopes, and perhaps a bit forgotten now that Lee has had a few stinkers. Looking back, it’s almost downright criminal that Lee couldn’t swing a Best Director or Best Picture nomination. His portrait of a Brooklyn neighborhood played out like a hip-hop opera, composed by Public Enemy, post-Reagan urban neglect, and racial divide. Mookie is our everyman, followed high and over the shoulder through the streets, but he fails to offer us compassion or interest as compared to other players. Not to mention he’s chained to Rosie Perez.

4. Pirates of the Caribbean: At World’s End — William Turner (Orlando Bloom)

We should have known what troubled seas we were in when the opening scene of a light-hearted adventure film hangs a young boy at the galleys. By pushing Jack Sparrow over the edge, the character loses his selfish yet charming purpose, and the perspective moves to Mr. Turner and his machinations. Where the first film had a limited number of angles for each party to play, the third film jumps unnecessarily, as if we’re supposed to be shocked where the final loyalties lie. The plot twists serve no greater purpose; in the end everyone winds up on the predictable side at the climax, almost like a 3 hour game of Chutes n’ Ladders that ends with everyone sliding back down to the first game space. Orlando Bloom’s sideways tactics and lack of chemistry with Keira Knightley doomed this film; didn’t we want to see her end up with Jackie boy anyway?

5. The Last Samurai — Nathan Algren (Tom Cruise)

The catalyst for this list. Some cats dig cowboys, some dig ninjas, but I’m a sucker for a good samurai tale. The opening of trade routes with Japan’s isolated people culminated in the Satsuma Rebellion in the last part of the 19th century. As the samurai found their centuries-old traditions outlawed, they made a last stand to hang on to their place as a separate and influential (and yes, corrupt) caste in society. Even with the necessary Hollywood script changes, the film is completely stolen by Ken Watanabe as Lord Katsumoto, and never gives us enough of Hiroyuki Sanada as the stoic badass Ujio. Instead of deeply exploring the parallels of Native America suppression with modern upheaval in Japan, we get the drunk rebirth and romance of Tom Cruise’s predictable bombast. Cruise does accomplish one major feat, though; he manages to make Timothy Spall seem subtle.

Dan Saipher has no problem being the gaijin meat in a Watanabe-Sanada samurai sandwich.









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Comments

I would also add the lead actor in The Hangover (it should be telling that I've both forgotten his name and have no interest in Googling it).

Posted by: ramzib at March 25, 2011 10:38 AM

ramzib great point...I just re-watched The Hangover recently and had absolutely no memory of that 'main' guy from my original viewing.

Posted by: fenchurch at March 25, 2011 10:50 AM

i liked both the character of mary reilly AND julia roberts playing her.

i realize i may be in a minority (again).

Posted by: gp at March 25, 2011 10:51 AM

I volunteer to be chained to Rosie Perez instead of Mookie.

Also, I doubt you could remove him from the movie entirely, but the fighter was the least interesting character in "The Fighter."

Posted by: , at March 25, 2011 10:51 AM

His name I believe was "McGuffin".

Posted by: Mrcreosote at March 25, 2011 10:53 AM

FYI: Do The Right Thing was Spike Lee's third movie after "She's Gotta Have It" and "School Daze."

Posted by: Justin at March 25, 2011 10:55 AM

didn’t we want to see her end up with Jackie boy anyway?

No.

Posted by: Todd at March 25, 2011 10:57 AM

"FYI: Do The Right Thing was Spike Lee's third movie after "She's Gotta Have It" and "School Daze."

Slap me in the mouth I've seen both of those.

/proofread facepalm

Posted by: D-Day at March 25, 2011 10:59 AM

Well so far I've only seen Lock Stock and The Last Samurai out of this list, but I don't think it works for them...does it?

Lock Stock all hinges on whathisface (can't be bothered scrolling up again) fucking up that card game, without which nothing would've happened, no?

Last Samurai I admittedly ain't seen in yonks, but again, I'm pretty sure the short, pretty white man instigated a lot of shit in that film...

Certainly the Hangover, as mentioned in the comments, needed the main character, otherwise...no Vegas trip, and - ignorting the fact that Jeffrey Tambor could probably throw an even better party in his mansion - none of those crazy R-rated shenanigans that followed.

Two points of note:

- I hate all those characters I just mentioned.

- Sleepless and hungover I am, so I very well might be missing something.

Posted by: zeke the pig at March 25, 2011 11:01 AM

We should have known what troubled seas we were in when the opening scene of a light-hearted adventure film hangs a young boy at the galleys.

I actually really enjoyed the opening scene, in particular this:

By decree, according to martial law, the following statutes are temporarily amended:
Right to assembly, suspended.
Right to habeas corpus, suspended.
Right to legal counsel, suspended.
Right to verdict by a jury of peers,
suspended.

Unfortunately, the movie failed to live up.

Posted by: An Atlantan at March 25, 2011 11:03 AM

Malkovich as both Jekyll and Hyde was way worse than the miscast Roberts.

Posted by: xoxoxoe at March 25, 2011 11:04 AM

Mary Reilly was the film that proved definitively that if Julia Roberts doesn't have an opportunity to issue a charming grin or laugh in a scene she becomes completely forgettable. It amazed me how utterly incapable she was of even making her presence felt in that film, let alone making a case for being the leading character.

Posted by: PaddyDog at March 25, 2011 11:04 AM

Wrong on Lock, Stock.

He is the straight man and de facto group leader.

But Soap is still my favorite.

"Brother, mother, any other sucker."

Posted by: maka at March 25, 2011 11:21 AM

Perseus (Worthington) - Clash of the Titans

If they had focussed on Mads Mikkelson and Gemma Arterton trying to take down Jason Flemyng and all the Gods I think it would have been a FAR more compelling flick. Even all the CG nonsense would have been palatable with more of those three.

Posted by: TylerDFC at March 25, 2011 11:26 AM

Lock Stock is fine as is. Agreed on Mookey though Lee was terrible and that was a downright obnoxious character.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at March 25, 2011 11:36 AM

Without Mookie, Sal and his sons are dead. Mookie has the sense to break the stalemate by directing the block's anger toward the pizza shop itself, rather than the white guys who run it. Given his no-win position, he makes a bad thing happen to prevent a far worse thing from happening. He has to destroy Sal's shop to save Sal's life, and to save his friends in the mob from committing murder. Mookie does the right thing.

It took me years to figure this out.

So how can you remove him from the movie?

Posted by: , at March 25, 2011 11:45 AM

10:51: Couldn't agree more. Wahlberg was competent, but he was so profoundly outshone by Bale et al. that he was forgettable.

Posted by: samantha t at March 25, 2011 11:46 AM

Sorry, should have marked that with SPOILERS! but I don't suppose there are many of us left who haven't seen it.

Posted by: , at March 25, 2011 11:46 AM

Oh, wait - do you mean the character himself or herself, regardless of who plays him or her. I'd agree that Mookie is central to that movie, but that Spike could've done a better job in the role.

Posted by: samantha t at March 25, 2011 11:47 AM

Gordon Sumner? Really? How much fun is it trying to feel smarter than everyone else? Just say Sting for christ's sake. All "...Gordon Sumner" is gonna get you is people telling you that you're wrong "...because Sting played his dad" because they don't know that he and GS are one in the same. But they'd be right, you know. Because he was fucking billed as Sting. Not goddamn Gordon Sumner.

Research your Spike Lee filmography a little more.

And it's "gallows". People didn't die in a ship's kitchen now did they?

Posted by: PissBoy at March 25, 2011 11:53 AM

A fairly decent list. I'd disagree on The Hangover since the whole point of that character was his absence -- and wasn't Emu Coop the main character anyways?

If I'm adding any others, I'd add:

- Bella from the Twilight films. Come on, we all know that all the Twi-hards want to see the vampire and the werewolf make out anyways.

- Anakin Skywalker from the Star Wars Prequels. Saves us from watching bad performances and the "myth" stays alive.

Posted by: Fredo at March 25, 2011 12:03 PM

Oddly enough I usually end up feeling this way about the main characters in TV shows. Zack Braff in Scrubs, Fraiser in Fraiser... Even Seinfeld in Seinfeld. Why do they always put the most annoying or bland person center stage?

Posted by: rhombus at March 25, 2011 12:08 PM

Because, in all their focus group characterization, that is what is supposed to pass for a middle-of-the-road, fence-sitting androgynous American cipher, like YOU, whose sensibility is somewhere between cardboard and mannequin and apparently has a moral compass that twinges at anything slightly untoward.

Because everyone is an anesthetized Puritan who shocks easily.

Posted by: Recondite at March 25, 2011 12:15 PM

Broke my heart in two when one of my favorite stories and one of my very favorite (obsessive, even) actors were chained to Julia Roberts.

Bullseye on the Tom Cruise bombast. I put that DVD in reluctantly (but lured by the promise of a good samurai tale) and about 30 minutes in, I muttered, "I'm goin to bed."

Hey did Julia and Tom Bombast Cruise ever do a movie together? I can't recall. I'd line up not to see that one.

Posted by: klingonfree at March 25, 2011 12:27 PM

What a great list. It's something I always think about with could've-been-great movies. I love The Last Samurai, but I always find myself skipping the scenes when it's just Tom Cruise's story--because honestly, who cares? You just want to see some badass samurais, and though I get that that's the point of the story, it's the fact that it's yet another White Man Among the Natives story that keeps it from being a truly great film.

Posted by: figgy at March 25, 2011 12:28 PM

rhombus: I always do that with TV shows, too. I get that a lot of shows/movies are based on the straight man vs comedic talent, but the main characters so often bog down good shows. Seinfeld was one, and I think Outsourced is a great example of this. The show could be truly hilarious without the boring, ignorant central character. I think they could at least bother to make the main character a little more likable while keeping the fish-out-of-water dynamics intact.

Posted by: figgy at March 25, 2011 12:32 PM

How about whoever Jon Favreau was supposed to be in "Swingers"?

Posted by: clatie at March 25, 2011 12:44 PM

Because, in all their focus group characterization, that is what is supposed to pass for a middle-of-the-road, fence-sitting androgynous American cipher, like YOU, whose sensibility is somewhere between cardboard and mannequin and apparently has a moral compass that twinges at anything slightly untoward.

Because everyone is an anesthetized Puritan who shocks easily.

Posted by: Recondite at March 25, 2011 12:15 PM


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Ding.

Posted by: zeke the pig at March 25, 2011 12:45 PM

Agrred on the Cruise thing.
Or any movie that has the White Guy in the (insert culture here).
Last of the Mohicans. Glory. Dances With Wolves.

Although I would love to see Cruise in The Last Scientologist.

Posted by: Odnon. at March 25, 2011 12:55 PM

you had me until you said Johnny Depp and Spike Lee. I don't like the Pirates movies but they are absolutely nothing without him. And Do the Right Thing, though Spike isn't the greatest actor, was a great movie and his character was in fact compelling and tied the whole story together quite nicely.

Posted by: Candice Frederick at March 25, 2011 1:15 PM

Going with the TV theme... I've always thought that how I met your mother would be better without Ted.

And not as bothered by him on the 2nd viewing but I didn't enjoy Brad Pitt in Inglorious Basterds...

Posted by: Kim at March 25, 2011 1:15 PM

It's always bugged me that "The Last Samurai" is about a white guy.

Also, the main character of a lot of action/super teams is usually boring and removable- Cyclops of the X-Men, Leonardo of the TMNT, etc. I'd even go so far as adding Superman of the Justice League, though I know a lot of people would disagree (well, I wouldn't say he's removable, but he's in that boring leader role).

Posted by: fracas at March 25, 2011 1:34 PM

Damn - that clip of Do The Right Thing made me remember just how fresh and different that movie was when it came out. Must revisit.

Posted by: Brian at March 25, 2011 1:52 PM

Perseus (Worthington) - Clash of the Titans
If they had focussed on Mads Mikkelson and Gemma Arterton trying to take down Jason Flemyng and all the Gods I think it would have been a FAR more compelling flick. Even all the CG nonsense would have been palatable with more of those three.
Posted by: TylerDFC at March 25, 2011 11:26 AM

AMEN! I spent that whole movie alternating between thinking, "*This* is the guy that's in every third movie right now?" and "When is Mikkelson coming back onscreen?"

Speaking of that awful movie, I'm really sad that Bill Nighy is in the sequel, because that means I'll probably watch it.

Posted by: elisamaza at March 25, 2011 2:01 PM

I think you have to careful what you wish for in a lot of these situations. It could be like when Topher Grace left That 70's Show. Eric wasn't always the funniest or most compelling character, and I found him really annoying most of the time, but that show just didn't really work at all without him there. And that's with 6 or so season to develop the chemistry between the other characters and not-Eric.

I'm not certain who you would consider the protagonist in the Hangover. It's definitely not Doug (or as Mrcreosote calls him "McGuffin"). If I had to pick one of the guys from the main ensemble, I'd actually say it was Ed Helms's character. I'm not sure if it's cooth to call a group of people the protagonist, but really, I would go with all three as the "main" guy.

PS - Is the proper way to make a proper noun that ends with "S" possessive? I'm never sure.

Posted by: Socrates_Johnson at March 25, 2011 2:11 PM

I was going to correct the omitted word in the post script there, but then I just let out an emo sigh and said screw it.

Posted by: Socrates_Johnson at March 25, 2011 2:21 PM

"but then I just let out an emo sigh and said screw it."

Don't we all, pal....don't we all.

Posted by: klingonfree at March 25, 2011 2:25 PM

Yeah, I second Brad Pitt in Inglorious Basterds.

Posted by: kayla at March 25, 2011 8:13 PM

Yes, yes, a thousand times yes on The Last Samurai. That movie still pisses me off. You're telling me that all these samurai, who have trained with their samurai elders since childhood to be the best warriors on the planet, all get cut down by modern weaponry but Tom motherfuckin' Cruise is the last man standing. I don't...I can't....uhhh.

Posted by: Dingles at March 25, 2011 8:26 PM

Could we put Julie Powell from "Julie and Julia" in there? What a boring non-story she was compared to Julia Child's personality and achievements.

Posted by: wildflower at March 25, 2011 11:59 PM

I think you have to careful what you wish for in a lot of these situations. It could be like when Topher Grace left That 70's Show. Eric wasn't always the funniest or most compelling character, and I found him really annoying most of the time, but that show just didn't really work at all without him there. And that's with 6 or so season to develop the chemistry between the other characters and not-Eric.
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Exactly! You can't take out the main character of an ensemble of wacky side characters, you have no center, no foil. There has to be someone that the target audience can relate to.

Posted by: EshinX at March 26, 2011 1:16 AM

Anakin Skywalker from the Star Wars Prequels. Saves us from watching bad performances and the "myth" stays alive.

The only thing that could have saved the prequels would have been to keep George Lucas the hell away from them.

I agree that Inglourious Basterds would have been better without Brad Pitt.

Posted by: Uda at March 26, 2011 1:18 AM

Could we put Julie Powell from "Julie and Julia" in there? What a boring non-story she was compared to Julia Child's personality and achievements.

YES. I get that it was a movie based on Powell's book, but a movie that was just about Julia Child would've been infinitely better. Powell was a terrible character.

On that note, The Devil Wears Prada would be much more enjoyable if it had been just about Miranda Presley. The Anne Hathaway character was insufferable.

Posted by: figgy at March 26, 2011 2:14 PM

But without Brad Pitt there would be no gorelaaaameeeeee

Posted by: EshinX at March 26, 2011 2:23 PM

Of course we didn't want Elizabeth Swan to end up with Jack Sparrow. We wanted her NOT TO BE IN THE FILM AT ALL BECAUSE SHE IS AN AWFUL CHARACTER AND I'M PRETTY SURE KIERA KNIGHTLY IS ACTUALLY A IRONING BOARD WITH A FACE

Posted by: Nadine at March 27, 2011 10:26 AM

10:51: Couldn't agree more. Wahlberg was competent, but he was so profoundly outshone by Bale et al. that he was forgettable.

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Kinda saddens me that so many people don't realize the unbelievable job Mark Wahlberg did in The Fighter. Living the next town over from Lowell, MA and having a friend who sparred with both of them, I probably know more of Ward than most moviegoers and MW captured him perfectly. He was soft spoken and quiet and took a backseat to his boisterous family.

The brothers both said Wahlberg could have been a hell of a boxer. The movie was about the family, not just Micky Ward's career.

Posted by: kirbyjay at March 27, 2011 11:35 AM

Watched the Last Samurai about a month after it opened ... about 50% capacity in the theater that day. When Cruise started screaming for sake, everyone in the theater - old, young, all shades of color - erupted in laughter. It was one of those weird yet spontaneous warm-and-fuzzy, kumbaya moments. SAAAAKEEEEEE!!!! SAAAKEEEEEEEE!!!

Posted by: MisterMJ at March 27, 2011 8:39 PM