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Brian Dennehy’s Head gets a much needed structural analyzation. (GiantRealm)

You guys are not even going to believe what happened to Becky #1 from “Roseanne.” (WIMB) Strangely? The Golden Girls haven’t aged a day! (WIMB)

I challenge someone to do this with the trailers for Gigli, Battlefield Earth, or Patch Adams. (Deus Ex Malcontent)

Dustin uses a whole, whole lotta words to say why he thinks Hillary should be Vice President. I’m keeping my opinion to myself, mostly because I haven’t actually formed it yet. So what do you guys think? (QuizLaw)

Indie darling Miranda July has debuted her first collection of fiction. (Loud, Please!)

Angelina Jolie has green hair and bosoms out to here in the new issue of Vanity Fair. (Popoholic)

Come get your nerd on: thanks to a tip from causaubon, here are some Dark Knight special features footage clips. (Spike)

Starbucks double-shot espresso drinks are the perfect drink for both unemployed registered sex offenders and general layabouts to kick-start their day. (TIB)

Guess which half of the Olsen Twins is heading to rehab? (Yeeeah!)

WHAT?! The Apples in Stereo are going to make a cameo in the Love motherfucking Guru?! So cold… (CC Insider)

Is there anyone who doesn’t think Willard Scott is the best part of the “Today” show? (KSK)

Clay Aiken gives a rare candid interview about his pregnancy, after the jump!

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Didn't that Miranda July book come out like, a year ago? She has a slightly newer book already- Learning to Love You More, which is like, Ono style creative suggestions for things. It's cute too.

Posted by: Bettytron at June 9, 2008 3:53 PM

Miranda July's book did indeed come out a year ago. Maybe they're talking about the paperback edition? Or maybe someone is just as far behind on their reading list as I am..

Posted by: zenhound at June 9, 2008 3:59 PM

Whenever I think of Alicia Gorenson, I think of 2 classic Roseanne eps: the farting episode and the drinking episode, both of which were improved by Sara Gilbert's deadpan humor.

Was Alicia in Boys Don't Cry? I think that was the last thing I saw her in.

And Stacey, those Starbuck drinks aren't just for layabouts, but for nice layabouts who don't feel like working.

Posted by: Brie at June 9, 2008 4:15 PM

Shit...ignore that last part b/c it's repetitive. It's Monday and I'm stressed.

Posted by: Brie at June 9, 2008 4:16 PM

"Didn't that Miranda July book come out like, a year ago?"

Well, this site is bitchy, not relevant.

Posted by: Mike B. at June 9, 2008 4:36 PM

I recommend paperbacks on that site. So yes, it was released about a year ago. But just recently in paperback.

Posted by: JMW at June 9, 2008 4:49 PM

Good lord! How did the most identical of all identicals diverge to this extent? Maybe it's just by comparison, but that Ashley-bot is looking downright good! The Mary-Kate-bot needs a good slap in the face to get her to stop channeling Joker-Heath.

Posted by: elizabeth at June 9, 2008 4:52 PM

Re: Hillary as VP.

Do. Not. Want. Will. Not. Happen. After all the nasty shit she pulled during the primaries, after the borderline race-baiting, after making him waste millions of dollars in campaign money after it was clear that she had very little chance of winning ... she deserves a kick in the crotch, not the VP slot.

I've said it before, I'll say it again: She read a civil rights poem in an African-American church in Ebonics, just about the most embarrassing thing I've witnessed as an adult.

I think Obama has an excellent shot, and I will run to the polls to vote for him. I also think a lot of the political middle of this country can haul themselves into the 20th century and vote for a black man.

Many of them will not be able to haul themselves into the 21st century and vote for a black-female ticket. If the Dems want to launch yet another Death Ship of a presidential ticket -- see, e.g., Mondale/Ferraro, Dukakis/Benson, and anything involving John Kerry -- then by all means, send out Obama-Clinton. I'll be over here getting ready for McCain's Middle East "strategy," investing heavily in military contractors, war bonds, and a heavy beef-up for the Apocalypse Kit.

Posted by: socalledonlycousins at June 9, 2008 4:57 PM

While I obviously respect the opinions of my elders, socalled, Hillary was still winning primaries the week she conceded the race. I don't think we can say that "it was clear that she had very little chance of winning". She also won the popular vote (albeit, not but a large margin).

Clinton was my candidate of choice, and I think she'd do well in a general election. She pulled in some demographics that the Dems traditionally have trouble with, and she does come off a bit tougher than Obama. She'll also draw more of the disenfranchised Republicans who are disgusted with the way the Neo-Cons are running things. There's good things about a unity ticket, which is why I'm sad it likely won't happen. I just don't have the faith in Obama that others seem to, but I was in a foreign country for most of the primary season so maybe he'll win me over before November.

Posted by: Genny (also Rusty) at June 9, 2008 5:17 PM

So am I the only 'tard on the block who didn't realize that Sarah Chalke was Becky Number 2? Huh.

And I reeeally want to know what Alicia Gorenson tattoo looks like.

On the political side, I know more Republicans who would swing the other way for Obama before they even dreamed of casting a vote for Hillary. In some ways she's a heck of a lot more polarizing to moderate conservatives who still associate her with her husband's administration.

My husband likes to joke that Obama would best invest in some good body armor if he picked Hillary for a Veep. He cracks she'd be gunning for him before the end of the first year.

Posted by: Alabamapink at June 9, 2008 5:30 PM

While I obviously respect the opinions of my elders, socalled, Hillary was still winning primaries the week she conceded the race

Elders are frequently wrong; forty years of doing something wrong doesn't make it right.

But she accomplished that well after it was widely predicted (and mathematically graphed) that winning those primaries almost certainly wouldn't close the gap sufficiently. It's an "almost," and there was a chance she could win, but in April many educated pundits were already predicting how difficult it would be for her to come back and win it.

Ultimately, I think the hard-fought primary was a great outcome for energizing groups who generally vote Democrat (younger voters, black urban poor) but have been apathetic about voting in recent elections. But I don't think that's why she stayed in -- I think she's a me-monkey. (And I'm not in love with Obama -- just going "best available," as usual.)

If she had won, I would hold my nose and vote for her. And I would pray she didn't select Obama as her running mate, for reasons previously stated.

Posted by: socalledonlycousins at June 9, 2008 5:37 PM

So am I the only 'tard on the block who didn't realize that Sarah Chalke was Becky Number 2? Huh.

We always called her "Fake Becky."

I know more Republicans who would swing the other way for Obama

Well, he is a good-looking man...

Posted by: socalledonlycousins at June 9, 2008 5:41 PM

I'm jumping on the anti-Hilary bandwagon of fun wih socalled. I once considered Hilary a legitimate candidate, I even liked the fact that she at least had a health care plan. It was when she criticized the Bush administration's secrecy last year, then refused to release her own documents that I started to get the red flag. But then she almost destroyed her own political party for the sake of her own career. I'm sorry, but are you kidding me? I'm sorry but considering how secretive the executive branch has become with Cheney, I just don't think I can really vote for someone who doesn't practice Full disclosure and accountability for a governing figure.

Posted by: Jeremy at June 9, 2008 5:42 PM

My goodness. I just now realized that Kenneth Parcell was based on Clay Aiken.

Posted by: Geetch at June 9, 2008 5:52 PM

She'll also draw more of the disenfranchised Republicans who are disgusted with the way the Neo-Cons are running things.

I'm not sure I buy this - I'm with Pink in thinking that Clinton still makes moderates and conservatives viscerally angry, whilst Obama has stuff like this going for him: http://www.republicansforobama.org/?q=homepage

I have yet to see a "Republicans for Clinton" organization pop up... and from what I can glean from moderate-to-conservative friends and relations, Clinton is simply too polarizing a figure. I'm not sure I buy that America isn't ready for a black candidate running with a woman - I just don't think Clinton has the power to sway wavering Repubs uncomfortable with McCain.

p.s. Becky 1 has rad tats.

Posted by: Tammy at June 9, 2008 5:54 PM

I can't wait until the Republicans for Obama wake up from their Obama-lovefest next January and realize that he won't advance their interests in any way. "Honeymoon's over, my friends, and, yes, your children's inheritances will be highly taxed!"

Posted by: samantha t at June 9, 2008 6:03 PM

she's a heck of a lot more polarizing to moderate conservatives who still associate her with her husband's administration.

Hey, I live in the same city as Neil Boortz and my mother. Both of them...I can't boldly capital italicize the Clinton hate enough. McCain's working the "I'm the new GOP" enough (whether he actually is or not) that I don't think Clinton would gather many defectors looking for somewhere different to run to.

Mind you, I'll never understand the Clinton hate, nor why people were so ferociously desperate to get out of what seemed to be a pretty decent eight years for the country. I guess the two just really bugged people. But the "Don't Blame Me" bumper stickers...blame you for what? Gay soldiers and national health care that's never happened? Does anyone remember what the impending doom was? (no, really, I'm curious)

Posted by: Jay at June 9, 2008 6:32 PM

Higher taxes or no, I can't imagine we'd be bleeding any more money than we are right now, what with the fucking war and our shit-ass economy. I can't say if things will get better under Obama, but they probably won't get ay worse. And at least I'll be able to go to bed at night knowing a woman's right to choose will still exist in the morning.

Posted by: Kolby at June 9, 2008 6:33 PM

Higher taxes or no, I can't imagine we'd be bleeding any more money than we are right now, what with the fucking war and our shit-ass economy. I can't say if things will get better under Obama, but they probably won't get any worse. And at least I'll be able to go to bed at night knowing a woman's right to choose will still exist in the morning.

Posted by: Kolby at June 9, 2008 6:33 PM

Yeah, I've never really been able to see why taxation should be my primary deciding factor in voting - it's probably due to the fact that I am in the arts industry and I don't make SHIT... but even, like this year, when I get nailed by my income taxes, I still don't get worked into a frenzy over "tax and spend" or other rhetoric.

I like publicly funded roads, infrastructure, and schools. Those things require taxes. Do I think there is room for reform? Hells yeah. Do I think the current income tax structure is needlessly Byzantine? Duh-huh. But that still doesn't explain the hysteria I see from right-wingers when a viable, left-leaning candidate comes to the forefront.

I'm sure I'll get flamed for saying so, but I'm with Kolby, there are many more pressing issues right now that I just can't see being solves by tax-cuts and the like.

Posted by: Tammy at June 9, 2008 6:40 PM

Oh and Pink, you're older enough to know they switched the Beckys, right? Maybe you just weren't watching closely, and I wouldn't blame you, as that show depressed me. My own family was in a rut around 92 riding out the Bush recession and I didn't need to also watch it (but I was a little sad that "Class of 96" up and left). So the Conners could fuck right off. But...that's me.

Posted by: Jay at June 9, 2008 6:41 PM

Hey, why is agreeing with me grounds for getting flamed? Am I that insane? Did I wake up this morning the reincarnation of BSlim?

Posted by: Kolby at June 9, 2008 6:56 PM

Becky!!!!

Posted by: greer at June 9, 2008 6:59 PM

Apparently my father is the only individual who typically votes Republican who was a Hillary fan. He's a registered Independent who tends to vote Republican or Libertarian when he really can't stand either candidate. He voted Libertarian last election, as of right now he's leaning that way again for this year.

And Kolby, I'm right there with you. I hate being a single issue voter, but the candidate who's not going to put laws on my uterus is going to win my vote every time.

Posted by: Genny (also Rusty) at June 9, 2008 7:18 PM

Ha! Sorry, Kolby, I didn't mean to imply YOU would be the cause of a flame-war, I meant that my lefty-liberal-what-who tax talk would get flamed.

Though I would consider taking on the B-Slim mantle to be an honor....

Posted by: Tammy at June 9, 2008 7:19 PM

Yeah, the whole tax cut thing really puzzles me. I see billions flowing down the toilet to kill people who have nothing to do with me -- and much of that skimmed by Cheney's contractor buddies -- yet I would gladly pay more if I had a real voice in where it goes. I would increase my federal taxes significantly if I could be promised it would go directly to teachers, police, a living wage for the working poor, etc. ad nauseum.

Taxes are one of those bugaboo issues where a politician can just say the word and get people riled up, like "soft on crime" or other nonsense that usually has nothing to do with anything.

And Jay, what I always say to morons who refuse to concede credit to Bill Clinton for the prosperity of the 90s: Then Reagan gets a posthumous cock-punch for the supposed "Morning in America" decade. You can't have it both ways, idiots, though the reality is that this country lost a lot of ground in the 80s.

Posted by: socalledonlycousins at June 9, 2008 8:32 PM

Obama please, please don't put Bonnie and Clyde on your ticket.

Posted by: Pookie at June 9, 2008 8:48 PM

Yeah Jay, I remember the Becky reboot (I didn't watch much of the show past the first few seasons because it stopped being amusing.), but I've never made the connection between Fake Becky and the chick on Scrubs.

As for taxes, I'm one of these nuts who thinks that a federal-centric method of taxation is wrong. The fact that income taxes are first given over to the federal government which then in turn decides how best to allocate these funds to the states. It's ridunkulous. Puts way too much control at the federal level over how states operate.

I wish we could pay the bulk of our taxes to the state in which we live and which in turn would give a certain portion of money to the federal government to do federal big shit with it (You can tell I'm all down with political science.), keeping the bulk of the tax payer's money close to home. Plus, each state could dictate how it would raise said funds through a variety of tax methods.

Somehow keeping things as local as possible seems more rational when it comes to taxation.

But then again, what the hell do I know.

Posted by: Alabamapink at June 9, 2008 8:54 PM

Thank you, socalled, for calling bullshit on people who maintain that Clinton ruined this country. Please. Last I remember, most Democrats loved the dude, personal shitshow aside, and rushed to his defense when the whole Lewinsky (bad)/perjury (much worse) stuff went down. I think his biggest, most shameful blunder was his inaction with Rwanda, but something tells me that's not why Republicans and others don't respect the guy.

I'm in the highest tax bracket (and am not rich - discuss) and don't really give taxes much thought. I see it as not my money - somebody comes to pick up my trash, pave the roads where I live, pay the teachers who will ultimately educate my child, etc. I avail myself of lots of public services, so why shouldn't I pony up?

Posted by: samantha t at June 9, 2008 8:55 PM

I think his biggest, most shameful blunder was his inaction with Rwanda

Agree, and I think he would be the first to admit that, and did so on John Stewart if I recall correctly. Can you imagine Bush ever admitting such a mistake? (Q: What does WJC say about this in his ginormous bio, which has been bludgeoning burglars at my house, and not doing much else, for two years now?)

perjury (much worse)

Agree, but to a lesser extent. The percentage of people who would lie under oath to save their job and/or marriage is much, much higher than people would like to admit. I think you and I share a vocation, and I see people perjure themselves over much less literally on a weekly basis. WJC was, however, supposed to lead by example. On the other hand, he had much, much more to lose than most people.

I'm in the highest tax bracket (and am not rich - discuss) and don't really give taxes much thought.

Agree! Except I think about taxes a lot because I'm basically self-employed and have to have the discipline to get them paid on time. But yeah, any safe, well-off American who balks at paying reasonable taxes while using all the services they provide -- especially the police and military that protect their way of life -- is not just a hypocrite but either delusionally short-sighted or just plain evil.

I just hate paying so that el presidente poco-penis can murder people in my name and butt-rape the country so his buddies can buy islands. But I digress. Bwuh.

Mini-comment-diversion/flame invitation: For whom among you did the abortion issue become less and less critical a political issue as you crossed that forty threshold and became less and less likely to get the grim news from Dr. Baby?

I'm all about 14th Amendment protections being maxed out for many other reasons, so my overall stance didn't really change, but that facet of the privacy diamond shines less brightly for me now that the missus is less, um, fruitful-esque. On the other hand, we're committed child-free-by-choicers, so it's a deep-rooted issue for us.

Posted by: socalledonlycousins at June 9, 2008 9:43 PM

Mini-comment-diversion/flame invitation: For whom among you did the abortion issue become less and less critical a political issue as you crossed that forty threshold and became less and less likely to get the grim news from Dr. Baby?

Damn, that is a good question. Hope somebody answers it.

Wasn't there an episode of Roseanne where the two Beckys danced around the house, switching places? Otherwise, some very fun yet very naughty fantasies came from a nonexistent show. And at least Gorenson left the show to finish college and be normal for a while, and not for some stupid reason (like a movie with Mickey Rourke).

Posted by: Vermillion at June 9, 2008 11:27 PM

I thought that seeing as how the race was neck and neck for so long, if Obama and Hillary joined forces now that would probably please all the people that liked each of them.
Ultimately that would be better for the Democrats, wouldn't it? Give them a better shot against the *bleurgh* Republicans.
If I was American I would definitely vote Obama.

Posted by: Loob at June 10, 2008 12:10 AM

I'll take a shot. At 33 years old and with two children, I can honestly say that abortion is not my issue of choice anymore. Frankly at this point if I end up pregnant again, I'm having it. There are the usual exceptions, rape, harm to my health, etc, but the supreme court has already ruled that states can't pass abortion laws that don't factor in the health of the mother over the baby. Really, it's true. I wrote a paper on it last fall.

I decided that Hillary must stay as far away from the ticket as possible when she increasingly used Bush tactics to try to win, while hiding behind the 'it's ok, I'm a democrat!' mask while doing it. The way she was beginning to create her own history and current reality, and successfully sway her fan[atics]s to believe it was nothing short of Rovian. But then again, you can't deny that the Clinton spin machine of the 90's was what allowed Bush to do what he was able to, so she was well versed in this from the beginning. Democrats who use Bush tactics but think it's ok because it's for their side are fucking up our political system just as much as the republicans are. It's time to right things again.

Rawanda the worst thing Clinton did? Horrible, yes, but I think NAFTA was the worst thing to happen by Clinton. We have systematically drove the world into poverty and desperation by promoting our multi-national corporations over human interest. And it still continues. While millions died from the Rawanda massacre in a matter of a couple of years, people will be watching their families disintegrate due to an inability to sustain themselves with basic necessities, continued migration to cities and other countries in order to make a living that borders on slavery, and the erosion of their cultural backgrounds that lead them to a dirty way of western living that isn't even doing Americans any good anymore. Not to mention that the prison population increased at an unprecedented rate in the time Clinton was in office because of his need to portray himself as tough on crime to the republicans.

From all of that you'd think I wasn't a Clinton supporter in the 90's, but I was a huge fan of his. I'm not going to deny that things were prosperous for me personally, it took gaining some perspective a few years after the fact to realize that things weren't entirely rosy for everyone.

Oh, and I remember the Roseanne episode where the first Becky came back. Roseanne looked at her and said something to the effect of, 'well where have you been?' I remember the laugh track gave it a huge response.

Longest Pajibapost ever!

Posted by: katy at June 10, 2008 12:31 AM

At the risk of being pedantic, I did state that the Rwanda debacle was the most "shameful" thing of Clinton's administration - meaning there was pretty much nothing defensible about it. And the fallout from that will continue in Rwanda/Congo will continue for decades, but I digress. NAFTA is something lots of people can get behind because of its (largely illusory) benefits to consumers. I'm not a huge NAFTA supporter and am delighted candidates are questioning it, for the record.

Posted by: samantha t at June 10, 2008 6:31 AM

I wish we could pay the bulk of our taxes to the state in which we live...

That is already a reality in New York.

Posted by: Kolby at June 10, 2008 10:08 AM

Urgh, NAFTA and its impact are subjects I'm ignorant about beyond the barest broad statements like "something to do with open commerce with Mexico and Canada" (?). I felt Rwanda really exposed how the West views darker people when the rubber meets the road, however, which was especially bad for Clinton because of the open-hearted, hopeful support given him by minority voters here, particularly juxtaposed against the action taken (finally) in the Balkans on behalf of light-colored Europeans. On the one hand, the Balkans initiative took far too long to happen, as well, but on the other hand the victims there at least had some armaments and fighters. Rwanda was just a slow motion massacre start to finish, and we really did nothing.

Posted by: socalledonlycousins at June 10, 2008 10:15 AM

I wish we could pay the bulk of our taxes to the state in which we live and which in turn would give a certain portion of money to the federal government to do federal big shit with it

That's an intriguing idea, 'bama, though I'd have some concerns about the responsibility level of some states. 100 years ago, what Florida (for example, since they're crazypants) decided to do didn't mean a whole lot to California, probably, but now it impacts me a great deal if Florida refuses to pay for education or police its ports effectively.

Also: the mercurial nature of state governments. Here in CA we have a jackass legislature that can't find its ass with both hands and writes complicated legislation by candlelight with a Big Chief notebook and a Huskie pencil. Arnie has surpassed expectations, but Gray Davis was an absolute disaster. State governments are actually too able to get things done sometimes.

Posted by: socalledonlycousins at June 10, 2008 10:21 AM

I just hope that you vote in someone who won't be so cozy-cozy with Stephen Harper. Dubya has certainly changed the state of things in Canada, indirectly, through his big-brother relationship with our Prime Minister.

Harper is even trying to get abortion criminalized here in Canada. Even though I would joyfully keep my child should I become pregnant at this point in my life, I want the choice to be available to Canadian women. Hells, I want the choice to be available to ALL women.

Posted by: Pea at June 10, 2008 10:48 AM

The Dark Knight vs the original Batman trailer:

http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1813453

Posted by: Lenoir at June 10, 2008 11:12 AM

I love this well-reasoned, level-headed political discussion so much that I want to marry it, make passionate love to it, and have a litter of Lil' Pajibas with it.

Vote Pajiba in '08!

Posted by: Tammy at June 10, 2008 11:29 AM

Socalled - fabulous, fabulous Ignatius reference. Truly inspired.

As to the Balkans, one could argue that Clinton's (and others') inaction and subsequent (and deserved) public shaming regarding Rwanda inspired the (belated) intervention in the Balkans. I think it's a bit simplistic, frankly, to chalk it up entirely to race. We intervened in Somalia before the genocide in Rwanda to disastrous effect. Again, not even remotely a justification for Clinton's know-nothing approach to Rwanda, but I think it's simplifying the situation to state that we intervened in the Balkan situation merely because those involved were light-skinned Europeans (as if people from (then) Yugoslavia and, say, Switzerland or Austria are exactly the same).

As to the American people, I don't think the vast majority gave any more of a damn about the Balkan hell than they did about the Rwandan hell.

Posted by: samantha t at June 10, 2008 11:34 AM

Why is Florida always the looniest state? I was born there, lived there for years, and am dying to move back as soon as I can. Why does everyone else hate it?

Posted by: Kolby at June 10, 2008 12:28 PM

Because the weirdest stories that I hear or read about tend to take place in Florida. My morning radio show gave Florida their very own jingle because of the amount of crazy stories that come from that state.

Posted by: Melody at June 10, 2008 12:32 PM

Kolby - I, for one, love Florida and its insane mix of real Southerners in the panhandle/center of the state and the heavily Northeastern coastal areas. It's unique in that respect.

Posted by: samantha t at June 10, 2008 12:32 PM

I don't necessarily hate Florida. Just the college football/basketball teams. All of them. Miami, FSU, UF. All of them.

Posted by: Melody at June 10, 2008 12:37 PM

I think it's simplifying the situation to state that we intervened in the Balkan situation merely because those involved were light-skinned Europeans

Well, that's true. The Balkan situation played out over such a long period of time, as well, that if there had been an early, massive massacre (instead of the many smaller ones), we wouldn't have done shit about that in time either. And you're right about Somalia, of course, which I'm sure played a role in Clinton's thinking on Rwanda.

Posted by: socalledonlycousins at June 10, 2008 1:01 PM

Socalled, regarding your question from before...almost my entire extended family and one of my good friends base their votes entirely on the candidate's stance on abortion. They're pro-life and would never vote for someone who wasn't. To the point where my friend and former roommate voted for Santorum in the last election. In high school and college I considered myself pro-life, but I've always been a democrat and a rather liberal one at that, excluding my feelings toward abortion.

As I've gotten older I've shied from this. I still don't necessarily agree with abortion, but making it illegal is no longer something I can support, and I honestly don't consider that issue when casting my vote. It's funny too, I sometimes have vestiges of Catholic guilt when I really think about it...I was so staunchly pro-life for so long, so how can I honestly say that I don't want it banned? Maybe because I've had friends who have had abortions, maybe because there is so much more going on in this world that I feel we should put our energy towards...who knows. It's been interesting, getting older and changing my views...something that, when I was younger and more naive, I though was impossible.

Posted by: Julie at June 10, 2008 1:21 PM

Abortion was never THE issue for me. I support the right to choose but mostly because I am far more interested in pushing sex educaiton rights, and teaching and enabling birth control (financially and openly) and I see a ban on abortion as the beginning of our old friend the slippery slope in that regard. So my position hasn't changed by turning 40. By way of example, the three major companies I have been employed by all denied coverage for birth control pills in their insurance plans (even though one of them made the damn BCPs) but covered abortion. That, to me, is ludicrous.
Anyhoo, on to this election. I have three BIG issues. Immigration, death penalty and war in Iraq. Obama is the only candidate who speaks first and foremost about treating people with compassion and dignity regardless of where they were born; he has worked tirelessly over the years to fight the death penalty in Illinois; and he is the only candidate who was opposed to the Iraq profiteering exercise from Day 1.
Case closed.

And, please pro-Hillary VP people, go back and look at some of the numbers. Hillary won most primaries in states with open primaries and where exit polls suggested she drew a strong Repulican vote because they really wanted her as the Dem candidate BECAUSE she would be so easy to beat. Obama won most states with caucases where only Dems can vote.

Posted by: PaddyDog at June 10, 2008 2:24 PM

Way to make a point about education by mis-speling the word. I hang my head in shame.

Posted by: PaddyDog at June 10, 2008 2:26 PM

And then mis-spelling "mis-speling"!!!! I may just have to wait until I'm back at my own keyboard to continue this.

Posted by: PaddyDog at June 10, 2008 2:28 PM

three BIG issues. Immigration, death penalty and war in Iraq

I know: We've got to find a way to keep the goddam Irish out.

Posted by: socalledonlycousins at June 10, 2008 2:32 PM

Julie:

I just read your comment. I think many people are in the same boat. There are aspects of abortion that make me feel uncomfortable. I certainly do not support late-term abortion and I have never quite understood people such as Sinead O'Connor who make such a public issue out of the fact that they've had multiple (in her case 3) abortions. It sort of seems to me that after the first procedure, one might take precautions from then on. Perhaps it is whatever Manchurian process the nuns used all those years ago, but I think it's more likely to be a pro-choice stance based on the premise that the Govt. needs to stay away from the bedrooms of citizens (Did you know there are states where sodomy is still illegal?) with the understanding that one is not saying, go ahead and make this equivalent to a botox injection.

Posted by: PaddyDog at June 10, 2008 2:33 PM

Socalled:

You just want to keep me in an undocumented status so you can force me to perform unspeakable acts on you and not go running to the authorities. Shame on you for perverting politics for your own desires.

Posted by: PaddyDog at June 10, 2008 2:38 PM

This is one of those incidents wherein I wish we could yak on these subjects in person. I feel like my blabbering on about taxation maybe would be more coherent. I don't necessarily think the state gov't would do a better job than the federal; I just wish we weren't turning over so much money to the federal gov't (in addition to what we already give our states). The fed gov't then in turn puts certain stipulations on the funds it doles out to the states. Basically, I am a believer in a decrease in power at the federal level of government. Blabbity blah.

As for abortion, I've never been a one issue voter nor am I a big fan of treating any issue like a freakin' Sacred Cow. My feelings regarding abortion are very muddled and not entirely straight forward due to my own personal experiences. I wouldn't say I side with either the pro-life or pro-choice camp. I certainly believe it should remain legal, however I wish that the Constitution hadn't been dragged into the fray in order to make that possible.

As for my feelings changing as I got older, well here's one for you: After all this chemo and my pretty-much-for-certain bone marrow transplant, my eggs are going to be nuked beyond oblivion. Birth control? Will be as unnecessary as hair care products are now. Hardy har.

Posted by: Alabamapink at June 10, 2008 2:44 PM

'bama, I read in UsPeopleWeekly that bald is the new black.

Posted by: socalledonlycousins at June 10, 2008 2:50 PM

I was raised by Catholics who thought abortion was a sin who voted Democrat b/c they still believed it was a woman's choice to so sin. This includes my grandparents - they'd never have dreamed of voting Republican. It makes me mighty uncomfortable when my people ally with the Christian right.

Posted by: samantha t at June 10, 2008 2:52 PM

Don't you know it.

Posted by: Alabamapink at June 10, 2008 3:22 PM