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Pajiba Love / Stacey Nosek

Pajiba Love | March 2, 2009 | Comments (104)


“The Sarah Silverman Program” might be the latest casualty of the effects of the recession. Really? That show costs a mil per episode to make? (Celebitchy)

What. The fuck. Rihanna has reportedly reconciled with Chris Brown. I’ll never understand these women who go running back to their abuser. Not ever. (WIMB)

A lawyer who is also a professional magician? Huh. Seems like a natural crossover, to me. Zing!!!! (QuizLaw)

“Tea bag the liberal dems before they tea bag you?” Wha? Why would we want to tea bag anyone in the first place? Is there, uh, some other meaning of “tea bag” that I don’t know about? (Deus Ex Malcontent)

Another print publication bites the dust. It’s a really really scary world we’re living in right now. (SlowlyGoingBald)

Sorry to keep bringing up “Dollhouse” all the time, but frankly, it’s the most interesting thing on TV right now. For me, anyway. (Until “Supernatural” comes back!) I haven’t watched the last episode yet, but what did you guys think? (FilmExperience)

I’ve said it before, but Scarlett Johansson really needs to stop dying her hair herself. (AgentBedhead)

And you thought getting your peanuts taken away was bad. Now some airlines are considering making you pay-to-piss. (YBNBY)

Did you guys know that this week is “No Cussing Week?” Los Angeles made it official after some whiny 15-year-old took up the cause. Uhhhh, yeah. I’ll be sure to keep that in mind. (Jezebel)

And on that note, fuck the Snuggie! I want heated pants! Yes, pants that have heat in them. I would never leave my house. (mental floss)

I missed this by about a week now, but Roger Ebert wrote a piece on the role of snarkiness in Oscar backlash. Thoughts? Thanks to adere! (SunTimes)

Here are some random photos of Rose McGowan… And is it just me or does her head look like it was (poorly) photoshopped onto her body? (Popoholic)

Garlic mashed potato-flavored potato chips? I could deal with that. (TIB)

Holy shit, is this a real cat? This can’t be a real cat. This looks like something straight out of The Dark Crystal. (DListed)

Yay! I love these things. Here’s a new Literal Video Translation for “White Wedding”:

Pajiba Love brought to you by Stacey Nosek, who can be reached via email here.









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Comments

I can't believe Comedy Central is spending THAT much money on Sarah Silverman's self-aware masturbatory...eh...thing, I guess.

about 900k too much as far as I'm concerned.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at March 2, 2009 1:08 PM

God I love the Literal Video Versions. I used to think the Aha one was my favorite (pipe wrench fight!) but then I saw the one made for Tears for Fears "Head Over Heels" and laughed my ass off. "Is that Dave Coulier?"

Posted by: Sharon at March 2, 2009 1:09 PM

She's kind of annoying, but I would do all sorts of things to Sarah Silverman.

Posted by: Snath at March 2, 2009 1:09 PM

And as far as Rihanna and Chris Brown go, this what these people DO, let them wallow in their own filth.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at March 2, 2009 1:10 PM

I'm still on the fence about Dollhouse, but I'm holding on to see how it plays out. The last episode was OK, but there was a moment at the end (I won't spoil it for you) that made me think that things are going to start picking up soon. I hope so. I really want this show to be good!

Posted by: AnnArrogance at March 2, 2009 1:14 PM

Also, every time I see an old Billy Idol video, I have a hankering to watch The Legend of Billie Jean.

Posted by: Sharon at March 2, 2009 1:15 PM

Damn you Americans and your delicious, unreachable, 1st world potato chips that you taunt me with and I CAN'T HAVE.

I am shaking my fist in a general northern direction! BOTH fists!

Posted by: figgy at March 2, 2009 1:25 PM

That thing is a Lolcat waiting to happen. "Nosfercatu can haz ur soul."

...Yes, yes, ban me from the site. Intellect fail.

Posted by: Geetch at March 2, 2009 1:27 PM

Well, I supposed having "White Wedding" stuck in your head is better than humming "Whatever Loal Wants" for the rest of the day.

Posted by: Kolby at March 2, 2009 1:30 PM

"I'll never understand these women who go running back to their abuser."

Yeah, but BarbadoSlim comes running back here to TK all the time......

Posted by: PaddyDog at March 2, 2009 1:31 PM

Whatever you may think of Rhianna right now remember its hard to leave an abuser. Historically its like quitting smoking, it takes 6 or 7 tries before it sticks. The best thing anyone can do for her is try to be supportive and make sure she knows she has safe options.

Posted by: Jadashay at March 2, 2009 1:35 PM

Yeah, but BarbadoSlim comes running back here to TK all the time......

Posted by: PaddyDog at March 2, 2009 1:31 PM

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Awww, nice.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at March 2, 2009 1:37 PM

McKay Hatch would probably be less bullied if he didn't look like such a self-satisfied little twat (At least, according to his picture). Frankly, I'm suprised he doesn't hear "Get the fuck outta my face, you smug little bastard!" more often.

Posted by: spazmodeas at March 2, 2009 1:37 PM

Aaaaaaaand why exactly is everybody reaching the conclusion that this Rihanna woman has been abused, exactly?

Eh, where are the facts?

Are we in Cuba?

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at March 2, 2009 1:39 PM

Yes, pants that have heat in them. I would never leave my house.

I have the advantage of taking my in pant heating system with me wherever I go.

Posted by: admin at March 2, 2009 1:41 PM

When The Sarah Silverman Show first came out, I liked it enough to not turn the channel if it came on. I wasn't exactly attached to it, but for some reason, I got personally offended whenever people insulted it as stupid and unfunny. I finally figured out why when people started comparing me to her, humor-wise. So my friends, who think she sucks, also think I am like her. HMMMMM. Thankfully, I can't be mad when it comes with caveats like:

"She's like you, except less funny" and "You're like Sarah Silverman, but prettier."

Posted by: Sabrina at March 2, 2009 1:45 PM

God, BSlim, I missed you.

Posted by: Kolby at March 2, 2009 1:46 PM

No motherfucking cussing week? For the fucking rest of this shitty week, I'll use as much motherfucking profanity as fucking possible.

Anyone fucking know how to fucking work the fucking word "cuntpickle" into a fucking sentence?

Posted by: George at March 2, 2009 1:54 PM

Nah, I mean it, the whole Rihanna/Brown (two assclowns whom I wouldn't piss on if they were on fire) has brought out the WORST out of people who supposedly live in a country where we live by the rule of LAW and Due Process. And the funny thing is, that we know SHIT about NOTHING that happened.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at March 2, 2009 1:55 PM

Dear McKay Hatch,

BAHAHAHAHAHAno. Fuck you and fuck your whiney little no swearing bullshit. Nothing against you, but there's no fucking way in hell I'm going to stop swearing. Ever. Fuck you and your little "My shit smells like goddamn roses" head tilt you got on your book. I fucking love to swear. Try and fucking stop me, cockhead.

Love,

Jeremy Feist

Posted by: Jeremy Feist at March 2, 2009 2:00 PM

George, shut your fucking face and stop being such a cocksucking cuntpickle.

There, how was that?

Posted by: TK at March 2, 2009 2:02 PM

The last episode of Dollhouse gave me some hope. I was halfway intrigued with the story and I even laughed a couple of times. Although I have to say, even though I think Dushku is not as awful as some people, the actress playing Sierra blew Dushku away.

I also liked how, during the fight with the Russian dudes, someone pulled out a friggin' gun and shot someone. So many times watching elaborate fight scenes on Angel did I think, "Damnit, why don't you bring guns?" I mean, sure, they don't work on some monsters, but why wouldn't you at least try?

Making people pay to pee will backfire in the very worst way possible. I know many people who would soil themselves on principle alone.

Posted by: DeadBessie at March 2, 2009 2:03 PM

I love it when my hometown shows up on the internets. My dog is about to go stay with my parents for a couple of months and that is the vet they use. Love it. They used to have a giant Irish wolfhound in there and now they've got this fucked up cat...they really know how to work the crowd in the waiting room.

Posted by: Cara at March 2, 2009 2:10 PM

Roger Ebert = awesome.

Posted by: Joe the Plumber at March 2, 2009 2:18 PM

I liked the last episode of Dollhouse, it could be that I watched it in lieu of my 80's Sat morning cartoon marathon, I was too tired to put in Thudercats.

Its probably evil of me that I'm dying to read the review of the Jonas Brother's movie, mainly to see if Agent Bedhead actually made it out alive.

My poor 14 year old niece had such a big crush on Chris Brown, she swore she would marry him, before the abuse. She actually took down her posters and calendar of him. I'm scared now she will turn to the Jonas Brothers or Robert Pattinson for comfort.

/Shudder

Posted by: DoubleH at March 2, 2009 2:20 PM

I'll say it - this last episode of "Dollhouse" was beyond retarded. I mean just stupid retarded.

Eliza's accent came and went. The plotline was just WTF ridiculousness. I love Joss Whedon. LOVE him. But this? This is crap. It's not amusing or action-packed or poignant or anything typically associated with a Joss Whedon show.

I will continue to DVR it in the hopes that improves, but I don't know if I'll watch the episodes I record. Seriously, it was bad. Just bad.

Posted by: Lainey at March 2, 2009 2:20 PM

*Thundercats

I posted before I could make the change.

Posted by: DoubleH at March 2, 2009 2:23 PM

She's kind of annoying, but I would do all sorts of things to Sarah Silverman.

Join the club. No seriously, you get a decoder ring and everything. See you at the treehouse!

And as far as Rihanna and Chris Brown go, this what these people DO, let them wallow in their own filth.

Dude, it is kinda unfair to post something like that so early. Now the righteous indignation crowd will have all afternoon to annoy us, instead of posting in the middle of the night where their opinions don't matter.

Although I do find it funny you to claim that we can't believe the store is that have come out, only to act as if this particular one had more credibility than the others.

And since nobody had responded yet: I kinda have to agree with Roger Ebert on the whole snark thing.

Posted by: Vermillion at March 2, 2009 2:28 PM

Wow, no cussing week? Shit, I missed that. And short of just copy/pasting FUCK over and over, I don't have the energy to keep up with some of the previous posts on the subject. But as far as that fuckwit Chris Brown goes, I hope someone takes away his cuntpickle for 3-5 years...

Posted by: Xtreme at March 2, 2009 2:41 PM

>Although I do find it funny you to claim that we can't believe the store is that have come out, only to act as if this particular one had more credibility than the others..."
Posted by: Vermillion at March 2, 2009 2:28 PM
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Respectfully,

First of all, I'm not acting like anything, I'm saying that this is, if anything comes out of it (questionable at this point), a LEGAL issue to be resolved on the facts, in court.

Second, I'm not claiming you should believe or NOT believe anything, there *is* NOTHING. None of the players has said anything of any probative value. One way or the other.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at March 2, 2009 2:46 PM

Second, I'm not claiming you should believe or NOT believe anything, there *is* NOTHING. None of the players has said anything of any probative value. One way or the other.

I get that. I really do. I applaud it, honestly. But your first comment? Doesn't really follow that line. If there was nothing to the whole thing, why bother making the crack? That is all I am saying.

I mean, I know you are, well, YOU, but it just seems...incongruous.

Kinda ties into that whole snark issue Ebert was talking about. Neat.

Posted by: Vermillion at March 2, 2009 2:52 PM

No cussing? What the french, toast?

Kitty = spectacular.

Posted by: Sweetie Dahling at March 2, 2009 2:52 PM

BSlim, since when did a LEGAL issue involving celebrities that ended up in court have anything to do with the FACTS? Have O.J. and Paris Hilton taught us nothing? The shit that occurs in a high profile case like this have about as much basis in reality as most men's dating website profile. Which is to say "based loosely".

Posted by: Xtreme at March 2, 2009 2:56 PM

Posted by: Vermillion at March 2, 2009 2:52 PM


Gee, lemme see these people, live the "thug life" they smack down on "they ho's" and them ho's love to GET smacked around, be they niggaz, or wiggaz.

Is that clear enough for you?

And I'm not here to meet OR disappoint your expectations sweetheart.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at March 2, 2009 2:57 PM

Hating on albino's is all fun and games here at Pajiba, but not so much in Africa. "Tanzania is launching a nationwide exercise urging the public to identify those behind dozens of murders of people with albinism." http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7918960.stm

Posted by: Iwantsprinkles at March 2, 2009 2:58 PM

The shit that occurs in a high profile case like this have about as much basis in reality as most men's dating website profile. Which is to say "based loosely".

Posted by: Xtreme at March 2, 2009 2:56 PM

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Exactly, so put away the pitchforks.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at March 2, 2009 2:58 PM

Oh and to make my position clear: I feel NO pity, no sympathy or empathy WHATSOEVER for any representative of the trash ghetto culture these folks represent.

They can all shoot themselves, cut themselves, beat themselves to death and the WORLD WILL BE A BETTER place: be they male, female, trannie homo etc..I'll be sleeping just fine.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at March 2, 2009 3:04 PM

I would have killed someone for those pants in my November/December job. I worked in an outdoor market. All weekend, every weekend for 6 weeks. Those pants would have literally saved my ass.

Posted by: KatSings at March 2, 2009 3:15 PM

Exactly, so put away the pitchforks

Posted by: BarbadoSlim

Normally I'd agree with you %100, but in this instance I just can't. Pretty much every person on the planet knew that O.J. axe murdered two people, and all he really got at the time was financially bitch slapped. Michael Jackson molests little boys, yet they still play his crap on the radio and call him the King of Pop. That little puke Nick Hogan turned his best friend into a vegetable for life; he served 166 days of his 8 month sentence. I'm not accusing you of tolerance for these shitheads; I just think most of us are tired of Celebutards being above the law. I'd love to see things get better, but given the fact that Obama was surrounded by more celebrities than secret service during his inauguration, I highly doubt this administration is going to be interested in equality for people like Chris Brown.

*steps off soap box*

Posted by: Xtreme at March 2, 2009 3:18 PM

Now, is a cuntpickle a pickle before it goes in, or is it, rather, a result of being in?

Posted by: Rykker at March 2, 2009 3:25 PM

Gee, lemme see these people, live the "thug life" they smack down on "they ho's" and them ho's love to GET smacked around, be they niggaz, or wiggaz.

See that is what I am not getting. First off, when did Chris Brown become a gangsta? As far as I know, he was always been a milquetoast R&B singer (the main reason folks were acting all surprised when this news broke). And Rihanna has always been a pop singer. So I don't get where this attitude that they were "thug life", even by fictional design, is coming from.

Second, you are the one who is arguing that the facts have to be addressed in a court of law. But then you go and make such assumptions, and deem them beneath you because of it. It is only disappointing in that to make such a good argument against the court of public opinion, only to dilute it with a crass remark about some supposed "gangsta" image being perpetrated.

You seem to be taking this personally. I mean, if you just want to be an ass, go right ahead. I am just saying, be a consistent ass. Otherwise, you are no better than the talking heads you complain about.

Posted by: Vermillion at March 2, 2009 3:32 PM

I work at a newspaper, so I don't need to read the article to know that print publications are going up fucked river right now. Like many, I'm just lucky to have a job.

That cat looked like it crawled straight out of Hell.

Re: Chris & Rhianna, I'm not surprised. Not surprised at all.

Posted by: Brie at March 2, 2009 3:33 PM

I missed the first 2 Dollhouse eps, but finally got to see the 3rd one - it didn't thrill me, but I have to say that I will be back just to see what they may do with Amy Acker in the future - am I the only one who was totally thrilled to see her there?

Posted by: SCG at March 2, 2009 3:37 PM

TK = WIN.

Posted by: Nicole at March 2, 2009 3:38 PM

I'll never understand these women who go running back to their abuser. Not ever.

Do you have ANY goddamn idea how difficult it can be to get out of an abusive relationship? It rarely happens on the first try, and that's without the situation being exacerbated by issues of celebrity and media victim blaming. As someone who stayed in an abusive relationship for almost four years and didn't manage to get out until the second try, all of this shit being slung in Rihanna's direction makes me feel ill.

Do a little more research into the psychology of abusive relationships before you make blanket statements about the people involved in them, yeah? Abusers are rarely assholes all the time, and when you're the abused party, when your whole existence has narrowed down to how incredibly vulnerable you are physically, psychologically, and emotionally, it's really fucking easy to believe someone when they tell you how sorry they are and that they'll never do it again.

Posted by: kate at March 2, 2009 3:40 PM

Vermillion - I read Ebert's post and have been shamed into silence (a little bit). I think he hit the nail right on the head. Really, how much time do people today spend on tearing down the accomplishments of others as compared to lauding those that deserve it? This got me thinking that maybe part of the problem with society today is that we are a people that prefer to sit back and whisper meanly rather than to step forward and contribute. It's easier, to be sure, but not nobler. And perhaps our general obsession with and focus on the frivolousness, the gossip, and the petty jealousies of this world instead of what is noble and productive and progressive is part of the underlying mess that's led to this recession. Maybe that's a stretch, but something in Ebert's discussion caused me to wonder about that.

I noticed one of the comments following Ebert's post quoted C.S. Lewis, noting that he addressed this same issue but instead of 'snark', called it 'flippancy':

"But flippancy is the best of all. In the first place it is very economical. Only a clever human can make a real Joke about virtue, or indeed about anything else; any of them can be trained to talk AS IF virtue were funny. Among flippant people the Joke is always assumed to have been made. No one actually makes it; but every serious subject is discussed in a manner which implies that they have already found a ridiculous side to it... It is a thousand miles away from joy: it deadens, instead of sharpening, the intellect; and it excites no affection between those who practise it..."

Truly, I feel a little bit guilty and quite humbled.

Posted by: tt_marie at March 2, 2009 3:53 PM

I loved this week's Dollhouse!

"Bitch please, you can fire me, but don't think you can take me". Classic.

And Helo fighting with a GSW, classic. Un-fucking-believable, but classic.

Posted by: Stella at March 2, 2009 4:05 PM

Actually, kate, I don't think she was judging you or anyone like you at all. I think she was stating that she doesn't understand why women return to their abusers, period. I don't find that sympathetic or unsympathetic - more like simply genuine bewilderment.

Posted by: I Love Beets at March 2, 2009 4:09 PM

Sarina, I wouldn't have associated you with Sarah Silverman, at least not her show, if only because the show is often not aiming for funny, but weird in a conscious "Look at how weird we are!" kind of way. You, I often find funny in a "Let's see what happens when we light this hobo on fire" kind of way.

Posted by: Tracer Bullet at March 2, 2009 4:21 PM

tt_marie, thanks for putting what I felt reading Ebert's post into better English.

I used to feed on snark, update my friends on "ironic showbizz news" three times a day on a forum, for months on end. It was exhausting, and I didn't get paid for it. In the end, all you've got left are mean-spirited remarks and a whole lot of nothing. It has no residual substance. Turns out mom was right: "if you've got nothing nice to say, don't say anything".

One commenter on Ebert's post referred to an article in the Toronto Star: read reason n° 5 and feel your blood boil. This is how some people chose to make a living?

So, that's why I prefer the company of people who know how to show some love and appreciation.

Yes that means you.

Posted by: Adere at March 2, 2009 4:49 PM

People! Sarina and Sabrina are not the same person.

Different writing styles. Different personalities. Oh and different fucking names.

Posted by: Lainey at March 2, 2009 5:24 PM

Ugly Bat Boy doesn't seem like the cuddliest of cats, but he rocks the basic black clothing, daring accessories, and carefully-schooled haughty expression. I think Ugly Bat Boy is actually quite glamorous. There's no need to be afraid of his cunning fashion sense.

Posted by: melligans at March 2, 2009 5:43 PM

Thank you Lainey. If only my parents had gone with their second choice... Nobody would confuse Sarina with Lil Bastard.

Posted by: Sabrina at March 2, 2009 5:49 PM

"Normally I'd agree with you %100, but in this instance I just can't. Pretty much every person on the planet knew that O.J. axe murdered two people, and all he really got at the time was financially bitch slapped...."

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No, not really, in the world *I* live in, people are proven GUILTY in a COURT. OF. LAW.

And do you KNOW? what that means? If you can't prove it you go the fuck home THAT is the system.

If not then you don't believe in the system. It's not perfect, but...ah what if the accused is someone YOU love. What if YOU are wrong? I'd rather have a MILLION guilty folks walking the streets than having ONE.... JUST ...ONE!!! innocent person in prison.

That's how *I* roll.


And boo hoo all you want, but what if it happens to YOU! or one of your loved ones. It's easy to talk shit until the cops come down on YOU.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at March 2, 2009 5:57 PM

I'd rather have a MILLION guilty folks walking the streets than having ONE.... JUST ...ONE!!! innocent person in prison.

So, you'd prefer not to have a prison system at all, is what you're really saying.

Posted by: Sabrina at March 2, 2009 6:04 PM

See that is what I am not getting. First off, when did Chris Brown become a gangsta?

Posted by: Vermillion at March 2, 2009 3:32 PM


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Ok. you are sooooo right I must have imagined that he's hanging out at P-Diddy's house, flexing and thugging out while jet-skiing... ok.
I also made up the fact queen RiRi is "produced" by Jay Z (a fine, upstanding, Harvard educated entrepreneur)...kiss my ass.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at March 2, 2009 6:08 PM

So, you'd prefer not to have a prison system at all, is what you're really saying.

Posted by: Sabrina at March 2, 2009 6:04 PM

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When did I say that? I have not said that. With all due respect, I would see anyone sit on the electric chair, as long as they are given DUE motherfucking Process. I would pull the switch myself. BUT NOT mob rule, you cannot allow a mob to rule.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at March 2, 2009 6:14 PM

Oh and the delicious irony of having PAJIBANS, calling out for a public lynching is ...sad.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at March 2, 2009 6:17 PM

Mmhmm, so you think there are no innocent people in prison right now?

Posted by: Sabrina at March 2, 2009 6:19 PM

Does that mean that I should abide or promote putting more innocent people in there?

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at March 2, 2009 6:20 PM

That's not the point. If you'd prefer to have a million guilty people go free than see one innocent person in jail, then you should be advocating letting everyone out of jail, unless you believe everyone there is guilty.

Posted by: Sabrina at March 2, 2009 6:22 PM

And it isn't about "innocence" or "guilt" it's about PROVEN guilt or NOT in guilt.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at March 2, 2009 6:23 PM

Ok. you are sooooo right I must have imagined that he's hanging out at P-Diddy's house, flexing and thugging out while jet-skiing... ok.
I also made up the fact queen RiRi is "produced" by Jay Z (a fine, upstanding, Harvard educated entrepreneur)...kiss my ass.

But here we are again. You say you don't want people to judge them prematurely, but you are. You have made it up in your mind that both of them are violent criminals, despite your very assertion that they are to be treated as innocent until proven guilty. Neither one, before this incident, has ever been convicted of a crime. And if keeping bad company is now a crime, we may all be guilty at one point or another. You are making inane assumptions, and we all know what Sam Jackson says about making assumptions.

Either they can't be judged by the public (including you), or they can. You can't have it both ways. Which I thought was the point you were making with your "rather have a MILLION guilty folks walking the streets" line. Either you are talking out both sides of your mouth, or you are a hypocrite, neither of which means anyone should regard anything you say on the matter seriously.

Posted by: Vermillion at March 2, 2009 6:24 PM

The worst part about this argument BSlim, is that I really do agree with you. Sadly, if it was someone I loved in that situation, they'd be screwed, because they don't have the millions of dollars required for an acquital, unlike most celebrities. At an average of $300.00 an hour for legal counsel, if I was accused of murder I'd be stuck with a court appointed lawyer. And I wouldn't like to bet on my chances in that situation. I just wish us poor folk had access to the same level of defense, is all.

By the way, do you happen to know somone in Gitmo or something? This just sounds a little personal...

Posted by: Xtreme at March 2, 2009 6:26 PM

"then you should be advocating letting everyone out of jail, unless you believe everyone there is guilty..."

Posted by: Sabrina at March 2, 2009 6:22 PM

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No I don't.

Why would I do a stupid thing like that, those people were proven guilty.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at March 2, 2009 6:26 PM

And it isn't about "innocence" or "guilt" it's about PROVEN guilt or NOT in guilt.

So you don't care if someone's actually innocent or not, just so long as either a jury convicted him or he took a plea bargain. You wouldn't care if an innocent person falsely convicted was executed.

Posted by: Sabrina at March 2, 2009 6:28 PM

Dear Lainey,

You rock the casbah. That is all.

Love and Nutella biscuits,
Sarina

P.S. I motherfucking hate Sarah Silverman.

Posted by: Sarina at March 2, 2009 6:31 PM

Posted by: Vermillion at March 2, 2009 6:24 PM


My personal opinion on the culture these people promote has no bearing on the Due Process argument I'm presenting for anyone on Chris Brown's situation my friend.

It's twofold:

1. Brown/Rihanna/Diddy/Jayz are useless and I wish they would all go up their own asses. MY. PERSONAL. opinion.

2. These same folks CANNOT be jailed/executed by mob rule. The law.

It's fairly self explanatory.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at March 2, 2009 6:32 PM

P.S. I motherfucking hate Sarah Silverman.

See? How can I not take your comment as an attack on me? But that's fine. You don't need to like me. I'll be fine.

Just fine... sniff...

Posted by: Sabrina at March 2, 2009 6:36 PM

You wouldn't care if an innocent person falsely convicted was executed.

Posted by: Sabrina at March 2, 2009 6:28 PM

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I do care, but in order for a system to work there is a process, if the process works you keep that to a HOPEFULLY, minimum. What do YOU suggest?

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at March 2, 2009 6:37 PM

My favourite thing about this website is how we can a)enjoy wonderful reviews of even the worse crap to come out of Hollywood, and b)have meaningful discourse regarding intellectual subjects such as due process.

Oh, what a wonderful site. And don't forget twatwaffles and cuntpickles!!!!

Posted by: Xtreme at March 2, 2009 6:40 PM

My personal opinion on the culture these people promote has no bearing on the Due Process argument I'm presenting for anyone on Chris Brown's situation my friend.

And those who are reading such articles about them and picking sides are doing the same thing: expressing an opinion. Just like you expressed your opinion on innocents and guilty people in jail. Mob rule, by it's very construction, is opinion. So it does have bearing, if that is the argument you are making.

You can't argue against folks who are saying she was abused or he deserves to die, then turn around and say they somehow deserved what happens to them just because they irritate you. It is apples and apples, the same side of the same coin.

Then again, by your own argument, we really shouldn't care what you have to say on it, good or bad.

Posted by: Vermillion at March 2, 2009 6:43 PM

I do care, but in order for a system to work there is a process, if the process works you keep that to a HOPEFULLY, minimum.

But if someone's executed, that means he was proven guilty, which according to you means he's guilty and you wouldn't have a problem with it. There's a big difference between hoping mistakes are kept to a minimum and not being okay with ANY INNOCENT PEOPLE WHATSOEVER being locked up. I know you're being purposefully radical and contradictory, I just felt like pointing that out.

Posted by: Sabrina at March 2, 2009 6:47 PM

Then again, by your own argument, we really shouldn't care what you have to say on it, good or bad.

Posted by: Vermillion at March 2, 2009 6:43 PM

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Yet here you are.


But apart from that, it doesn't change the fact that Mr. Brown has a right to be charged and be found guilty.

That's the America I was brought up to admire, which brings us back to the beginning buddy, I have the same right to ask: What has this man been accused or been convicted of?

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at March 2, 2009 6:49 PM

See, we have this thing called the 4th Amendment. We don't always agree on how it should apply every time, but we (U.S. Supreme Court and all who have to listen to them) agree that you are innocent until you are proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt or you plead guilty. Most people who plead guilty of crime B were actually guilty of much more serious crime A, and got a lighter sentence in exchange for not bogging down the system arguing a case they would eventually lose. They aren't germane to the discussion.

The people who ARE germane, the Chris Browns of the world for example, are people who have been implicated in or charged with wrongdoing but who have not been convicted of anything. They are entitled, as a matter of law, to the presumption of innocence. Period. To treat them otherwise, no matter how convincing the circumstances or persuasive the marks on the alleged victim's face, is to do violence to the Constitution itself; to disrespect the fabric of our society and the fundamental basis of your right to criticize past and present government officials on this very website (which very much enjoy I enjoy reading).

To sum up: BSlim is right, and as I see it nothing he said can or should be construed as advocating keeping innocents in jail if their convictions were flawed, releasing those proven guilty, or showing leniency to those who are being punished appropriately under the law for crimes they were proven guilty of beyond a reasonable doubt. Again, it's not a matter of opinion, it's a matter of law. And it's important, damnit.

Sorry for the boring lawyer rant, back to fun time with Sarah Silverman . . .

Posted by: Boring lawyer at March 2, 2009 6:52 PM

I know you're being purposefully radical and contradictory, I just felt like pointing that out.

Posted by: Sabrina at March 2, 2009 6:47 PM

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That's just you taking a cheap shot. But I'll answer anyway:

It has to end somewhere.

Do you understand that?

Otherwise nothing would ever end, the world doesn't work like that. Shit has to end, and people have to move on. You cannot expect to have perfection, it's impossible, justice doesn't have to be perfect it just has to be.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at March 2, 2009 6:54 PM

See? How can I not take your comment as an attack on me? But that's fine. You don't need to like me. I'll be fine.

Just fine... sniff...

I never said you're like Sarah Silverman, though.

Posted by: Sarina at March 2, 2009 6:55 PM

You cannot expect to have perfection, it's impossible, justice doesn't have to be perfect it just has to be.

Yes. I know that. I was pointing out where you expressed the opposite view.

I never said you're like Sarah Silverman, though.

I know, I was just being silly.

Posted by: Sabrina at March 2, 2009 7:00 PM

I know you were, Sabrina, I just wanted to clarify. Otherwise some people would assume I was passive-aggressively saying I hate you (which I wasn't; when I want to say I hate someone, I just come out and say it) and considering everyone's aggravating tendency to think we're the same person, I'm guessing I'd then get all sorts of annoyingly concerned emails about my sad self-hatred and how I need to learn to love myself or some shit. And then I'd have to kill everyone, and nobody wants that.

Posted by: Sarina at March 2, 2009 7:18 PM

I'm totally with Ebert, and with all of ya'll who are with Ebert.

I'm going to officially start the lackbash against Pheonix. That's right, it's the opposite of backlash. I think Ebert is right--it's pretty brilliant that nobody but nobody can really tell if it's a put-on or not.

And I also agree that if Pheonix is really losing it, that the skits were in bad taste.

And if he's not really losing it, then the skits aren't nearly as funny as the original performance.

Lame, either way.

Maybe it's funny on a scathing-reviews site, but snark always makes me feel really uncomfortable. I like Pajiba in spite of the snark, because it's the only source I know of for thoughtful, critical, non-pandering movie reviews. But thank god the reviewers are people who aren't afraid to put themselves out there and confess to being sentimental from time to time, even if it flies in the face of snark, which to me is not at all different from phony hipster cooldom.

Posted by: Codger at March 2, 2009 7:34 PM

Sabrina, Sarina I owe you both an apology. In my defense, all you people look alike to me.

Posted by: Tracer Bullet at March 2, 2009 7:42 PM

I know you were, Sabrina, I just wanted to clarify. Otherwise some people would assume I was passive-aggressively saying I hate you (which I wasn't;

Posted by: Sarina at March 2, 2009 7:18 PM


Yeah, now just let it happen naturally...get close to her...yeah, smell her. Ok! okay! it feels a little weird, now feel her breasts...

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at March 2, 2009 7:42 PM

Pssh.

Snark is a way of life. fuck you!

Posted by: figgy at March 2, 2009 7:56 PM

Yet here you are.

I am not the one arguing against people expressing their personal opinion, or against anyone else reading them. You are.

But apart from that, it doesn't change the fact that Mr. Brown has a right to be charged and be found guilty.

I never said he didn't have the right to a trial or anything like that. I was just pointing out that you were questioning about how anyone can express the opinion that he is guilty when there is no evidence, after you yourself say the same thing.

Case in point:

Aaaaaaaand why exactly is everybody reaching the conclusion that this Rihanna woman has been abused, exactly?

You are indeed asking about a personal opinion: the idea that he is already guilty of abuse, despite no conviction. But preceeding that:

And as far as Rihanna and Chris Brown go, this what these people DO, let them wallow in their own filth.

That is your opinion. Also, with no court-led conviction. You are, in fact, saying he is guilty, and she as well, despite no evidence to this point.

So what exactly was your point in the first place? Because all you seem to have done is mention one fact (the US court system is not mob rule), followed by tons of contradictory opinions. So either you have no point to your ramblings (which is fine, it isn't the first time, and it isn't only you), or you are pretty much a hypocrite who tried to parse his statements in order to save them, only to weaken them further.

Posted by: Vermillion at March 2, 2009 8:43 PM

Posted by: Vermillion at March 2, 2009 8:43 PM

Hmmmmm. If anything I have argued that what most people are mouthing off on the "internets" IS mob rule and that everyone should STFU and let the system work.

And you know what? What I am seeing is YOU trying to start shit with me. I think I have tried to articulate my point, I have not been successful "Some Boring Lawyer" articulated it quite nicely so "what HE/SHE said." You are the superior Pajiban...oh great Vermillion, you win.

So there, you win... exactly: JACK and SHIT.

I still think what I think.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at March 2, 2009 8:52 PM

Just to make it clear: You won, and don't think I haven't noticed that there is a dirty little snide side to Pajiba, a side where people like YOU and that other whining fuck think you are better than everybody else.

*wind blows* *psssssssssssssst*


Psssst...yeah you, c'mere ..Just don't forget...*whispers* (just between you and me)... we are the only ones reading all the crap you write.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at March 2, 2009 9:30 PM

Hmmmmm. If anything I have argued that what most people are mouthing off on the "internets" IS mob rule and that everyone should STFU and let the system work.

Which you are eagerly indulging in as well. So that STFU would apply to you, too.

And you know what? What I am seeing is YOU trying to start shit with me.

Really, I am not. If I was trying, I could certainly do better than this. The latent racism in your initial post, derogatory remarks about your parentage, etc. But that was not my intention at all.

I think I have tried to articulate my point, I have not been successful "Some Boring Lawyer" articulated it quite nicely so "what HE/SHE said."

Oh, I understood that point. It was simply a fact you kept saying over and over again, one that I am aware of and am not questioning at all. But that has nothing to do with your opinions, as you said, and that is what I am questioning. You seem to think that your personal opinion is not allowed to be under the same umbrella of unimportance as anyone else's. The only person trying to act superior is you, really.

I still think what I think.

Never said you couldn't. You started the discussion, and I did agree with you, at least initially. I was simply pointing out a flaw in the logic you were presenting. You felt as though it was a personal attack of some sort, and for that, I do apologize.

I didn't want to win. In fact, "winning" and "losing" is against the point of my response in the first place. But if you must feel that this is some sort of competition (something I must confess I have done from time to time), go right ahead and do so. I won't.

Posted by: Vermillion at March 2, 2009 9:38 PM

Unless of course, you were simply typing to yourself on a website visited my thousands of people daily, and never intended for said opinions to be shared with anyone else. If that is so, then my bad again.

Posted by: Vermillion at March 2, 2009 9:40 PM

we are the only ones reading all the crap you write.

So? I am addressing you, just like you addressed me. Anyone else wants to read or not read, that is their prerogative.

Posted by: Vermillion at March 2, 2009 9:43 PM

Jesus H. Cocktard Ballnuts Fucklick, this has been entertaining!

Posted by: TWoP Fan at March 2, 2009 10:11 PM

that is their prerogative.

Damn right it is.

Posted by: Bobby Brown at March 2, 2009 10:11 PM

You've all seen it, I've conceded.

..whatever dude.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at March 2, 2009 11:02 PM

Man, and I thought my cat was ugly when I adopted her. At least the only place missing fur on her was her tail! (And it's grown back into full bushiness.) Some asshole left her outside in the Montana winter and she's missing part of an ear because of it. Poor girl.

Oh, and the no-cuss kid? You have to give him credit, he is standing up and fighting for what he believes in. It'd be more effective though if he was actually focusing on real issues, like cancer, world hunger, etc.

And why do I hear George Carlin in my head?

Posted by: Quincy at March 3, 2009 12:04 AM

Oh, no buddy when Pajiba says no cussing they MEAN, NO CUSSIN' and no dissenting opinions either, doors are locked from the outside so bend over FAGGOTs they're gonna ram them up your ass.

Pajiba, for freedom of speech...as long as you agree with them.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at March 3, 2009 2:00 AM

a side where people like YOU and that other whining fuck think you are better than everybody else.

How do you expect to ever get me into a lesbian encounter if you call me a whining fuck?

Posted by: Sabrina at March 3, 2009 2:56 AM

Ok, couple things: No snarking, no cussing. On a website for "Bitchy People". That'll be interesting. Ebert does have a point though. It's harder to be sincere. As for the Kussless Kid, did anyone else notice the book's subtitle was: "How I fought peer pressure, and you can too!"? Isn't that itself a lot like peer pressure?

But as a non snarky nod to the wunderkind, I'll just say - Sarah Silverman? Now there's a "cunning stunt"!

Posted by: Odnon at March 3, 2009 4:52 AM

P.S. That cat almost scared the Bajiba out of me!

Posted by: Odnon at March 3, 2009 4:54 AM

Oh, one more thing. Re: Joaquin Phoenix. I do think it was an act and he's having us all on. And that makes Stiller lamer. Have you seen his "first" rap song? It has to be an act. It just has to be. I don't actually know how to hotlink, so I'll just cut and paste. Enjoy.

http://www.ejb.com/video/19975/Joaquin_phoenixs_hiphop_song.html

Posted by: Odnon at March 3, 2009 5:05 AM

Wait a sec. Unless it was a spoof. In which case I'll just shut up.

Damned insomnia. Oops. I mean, *darned* insomnia. Shit! I mean... Oh fuck it, I'm going to bed.

Sure is quiet here this time of night though. *Taps microphone* Hello?

Posted by: Odnon at March 3, 2009 5:16 AM

Shorter Ebert:

"Shut the fuck up you stupid peasants. Snarking is MY fucking job."

We're supposed to lay off Phoenix because he didn't break character for 20 minutes on Letterman? I've dated girls who were completely nuts but acted sane for 6 months straight. It's not a virtue, it's a condition.

And while Chris Brown is innocent until proven guilty, there's no law that says I can't think he's a fucking scumbag who needs his ass kicked.

Posted by: Uncle Mikey at March 3, 2009 6:38 AM

To anyone who thinks that an abusive relationship is easy to break out of:
Whom did you vote for in the election?

Posted by: Eep at March 3, 2009 6:57 AM

I have hope for Dollhouse - especially since I found out who is playing Alpha. And the final moments of the last ep definitely upped the ante. I'm still in. After all, what else is on? (OK, I'm waiting for more Supernatural, too).

The 'no cussing' kid needs to be Clockwork Oranged in front of an endless loop of Deadwood and it's awesome sweariness.

Ryanair probably won't make people pay to piss. It's plane stupid (sorry) and yeah, given their rather chavvy customer demographic, seat-cleaning issues would soon result. But apparently, there is no legal requirement for planes to have toilets at all. Odd, that...

Posted by: Tarn at March 3, 2009 7:33 AM

Ahem:

My cats breath smells like cat food.

That is all.

Posted by: admin at March 3, 2009 9:11 AM

Wow, this thread really took on a life of its own, eh?

One thought: B Slim isn't actually contradicting himself by saying that those engaged in some sort of thug lifestyle (which, as an aside, I don't necessarily think applies to Chris Brown, and certainly not to Rhianna) deserve the treatment they receive from peers also engaging in that kind of lifestyle. That position addresses behaviors and consequences totally outside the law. It is entirely separate from the position that LEGALLY, people deserve a presumption of innocence.

I'm not saying these two points mesh well, but they aren't in direct conflict with one another.

Posted by: tt_marie at March 3, 2009 9:48 AM


















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