Hey Wealthy Filmmakers: Having Your Rich Celebrity Friends Defend Your Kickstarter ISN'T HELPING
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Hey Wealthy Filmmakers: Having Your Rich Celebrity Friends Defend Your Kickstarter ISN'T HELPING

By Dustin Rowles | Pajiba Love | August 1, 2013 | Comments ()


The Internet has broken our own Daniel Carlson, who has discovered that anyone can submit Buzzfeed lists. He’s having a field day. Check out these essential lists:

6 Rocks That Totally Rock.

8 Sassy Colas that Know How to Keep It Sweet.

13 Benedict Cumberbatch GIFs that Are All the Same.

The 7 Sexiest Numbers.

7 Signs You Grew Up in Texas

Over the course of his career, Breaking Bad’s Aaron Paul has been in some weird movies and television shows that you almost certainly don’t remember him from, and he’s sported some truly bizarre hair styling choices. (Uproxx)

Here’s an interesting twist on a old standby list: 5 movies that improved upon the books, according to the author. (Cracked)

My favorite defender on “SNL” reminds us that, though the show is losing a ton of male characters this year, the show is not in trouble. Stop saying it is. (HuffPo)

Here’s Spike Lee getting really pissed off when he’s questioned about his decision to use Kickstarter to finance a film, despite lots of evidence to suggest that he’s a very wealthy man. “F*ck the haters!” (The Playlist)

In defending Spike Lee’s Kickstarter, Matthew McConaughey talks about his favorite Spike Lee film, and Steven Soderbergh dropped $10,000 into the Kickstarter. Why don’t famous filmmakers just go, hat-in-hand, around to all their rich friends and ask for checks? All I know is, the Kickstarter model for wealthy filmmakers is not going to survive the backlash much longer. (IndieWire)

Hollywood is trying really hard these days to make Shailene Woodley happen, and by God, I hope they succeed. (GFY)

Which villainous role in a recent Marvel movie was Alec Baldwin offered, but declined? Let’s investigate. (Slashfilm)

Speaking of actors that turned down roles, Denzel turned down a big one, too (not that Brad Pitt role in Se7en, although that, too. This is a different, recent one). (Vulture)

I’m not sure what’s going on over on Celebitchy today, but I think it may be Unattractive Pictures of Celebrity Day, because they have managed to unearth the least flattering photos of Aniston, Clooney, Lohan, and Oh God, Cumberbatch. That one smarts. (Celebitchy)

Yeah?! Why are potato chip bags always half empty? (Mental Floss)

The Mummy reboot lost Len Wiseman as its director (oh. no. that. is. just. so. sad.) while the Scarface reboot gains a director. Ugh. (TheFilmStage)

I love you Romola Garai. No. Really. I love you, even if the above header photo kind of slightly maybe a little bit defeats the point you’re trying to make here. (The Guardian)

Andy Greenwald’s piece on the television violence probably had the opposite of the intended effect: Now I want to watch all of these shows. (Grantland)

Speaking of television shows, how many of the top 25 network and top 25 cable shows last week did you watch? Me? Zero. Half of them I’ve never even heard of. (WG)

I’m not going to disagree with the top choice on this list of the ten most bad-ass looking characters on television. (Unreality)

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Comments Are Welcome, Bigots and Trolls Are Not

  • lovezoid

    I can't believe they missed X Files for Aaron Paul, Jane Lynch was in the same episode too

  • "There are no flattering photos of Benedict Cumberbatch, AKA The Lizard King."

  • Guest

    I'm working on a documentary, Rape and Consent: A Simple Study, exploring rape culture within our high schools and can't get any backing on Kickstarter. The shit responses I've received from organizations and websites refusing to help with any type of awareness have ranged from a large independent news website telling me that unless "this was about an actual rape" or if this project were "celebrity endorsed" I wouldn't get a shout out. I've been told that because I have no pop culture relevance, my project is not "anything we could use to draws hits to the site". I've talked on the phone to organizations that asked for monetary compensation for a tweet and one very notary organization offered aid to the project, if I allowed them not only to control its direction, but if I attached their name and would agree to work with a filmmaker of their choice.

    Spike Lee's rich ass wants to make a movie and people throw him money he doesn't need. Oh well, its the business, and if the movie ends up being good then great. Those that contributed are rewarded with a wonderful film. My thing is that guys like Soderbergh, whom could fund the project with his pocket change will donate money to a filmmaker that doesn't need it when there are so many awesome projects on Kickstarter that could use the help. Kickstarter was created as a means for creators to get aid they otherwise would never be in the position to receive. People like Zach Braff and Spike Lee are ruing the concept. Hell, I am joyed that Veronica Mars was funded. A great show with a following offers to produce more if we show we want it. Backers on set as rewards, cool. Wealthy directors taking money to produce their ego driven vanity projects with no finalized script. Fuck off. Makes me want to Radio Raheem Spike...and make Braff...I don't know, watch The Last Kiss like Alex's Ludovico treatment in A Clockwork Orange.

  • Sara_Tonin00

    Why do the rant if you're not going to post a link to your Kickstarter page? You are on pro-women Pajiba! This is a place that has discussions about rape at the drop of a hat. Use us!

    But Kickstarter isn't about getting mentioned in the press - it's about word of mouth. It may suck if organizations aren't tweeting or posting that word of mouth, but you have friends, relatives and business associates who have social media, right? The small arts groups I work with approach organizations for money before going the crowd-sourcing route - because crowd-sourcing is about individuals.

    If you are worried about making your minimum, do IndieGoGo. They take a larger cut, but everyone who donates is donating.

    A different way to encourage donations is to put yourself under an umbrella non-profit organization, like Fractured Atlas, which would mean donations to your project would be tax-deductible for the contributers. But you would need to look into the specifics to see if that's the right path for you. Fractured Atlas also runs a grant blog - http://www.fracturedatlas.org/...

    I'm not excited about celebrities on Kickstarter, but what they are ruining appears to be expectations. It still works though - the opera company I'm working with this summer just ran a nicely successful campaign.

    So even this project falls through, keep on trucking. No one is obligated to give you anything for your dream, but ask until you make yourself annoying. :)

  • Guest

    You are absolutely right. It is about word of mouth. I know it seems that I've contacted these organizations looking for press, but these very organizations are ones I've worked with. Groups I've produced very successful advertisements and docs for. I guess most of my anger comes from the fact that the responses I've received from them are the exact opposite of what I have told them in instances when I was being asked to help them. Often for less than I would normally receive, often for free.

    I am new to crowd funding. Normally I just go to to local businesses and clubs asking for any support they can offer. Be it money or manpower. It always works. My project will be made whether this Kickstarter thing works. It was never dependent on anyone funding it. I can skip some meals and fund it myself, that is why I budgeted so small.

    But if anyone is interested:


  • Sara_Tonin00

    Ok, I just had to revisit the Buzzfeed lists to see which had the most likes. I'm not surprised to see that the Benedict Cumberbatch one is leading. I did think Rocks would do better. And I kinda expect Texas to be a slow burn and go viral, though he did leave out homeschooling in #1, and that could offend a sizeable chunk of the Texan population.

    (and I forgot to mention it before, I love the fact that's the saddest possible looking English breakfast for the breakfast picture on that link.)

  • googergieger

    Also I think Spike Lee is doing the kickstarter thing to distract from all the shit the Oldboy remake is getting. Part of the reason they pushed back the remake as well.

  • googergieger

    My life feels like a reimagining of Groundhog Day where every day starts out totally different only to always end on the same note of, "fuck people".

  • cgthegeek

    I'm curious to know why it's OK for the Veronica Mars folks who are also millionaires to have a kickstarter, but not OK for Spike Lee to have one...

  • Sara_Tonin00

    It's not, don't worry. :)

  • Mitchell Hundred

    I'm not sure of the details on either project, but it seems like the Veronica Mars concept/characters are owned by a network, which would need to be convinced of the viability of a movie before they'd allow it (the TV show got cancelled, so it must not have had very good ratings). Presumably Lee can just pick an original script and film that.

    Or maybe he's way richer than the VM people? I really don't know.

  • annie

    That's a pretty old picture of her. She plays up the sexpot less and has been more decisive about choosing smarter, less exploitative roles and more vocal about her feminism. And just generally being awesome and unashamed.

    I STILL DEMAND SHE BE THE NEXT DOCTOR. But as a ginger. Her hair in Amazing Grace suited her far more than her natural blond.

  • jon29

    Garai says "How am I supposed to explain that to my daughter?"
    How about, "Some people like to read things that I don't like to read because I find them offensive."

    Like a commenter at the Guardian said, first it was "please think of the children," so they moved those magazines above children's eye level. Then it was "racy covers" so they add "modesty panels." Now they want a blanket ban.

    I don't read "lad magazines" but I don't think they should be banned from store shelves either.

  • Sara_Tonin00

    Here are my questions regarding Kickstarter and Spike Lee, and none of them are ethics-based.

    A) Does Soderbergh like Kickstarter so much that he wanted to donate $300 to it? Because that's what Kickstarter will get out of Soderbergh's $10K contribution to Spike Lee.
    B) What are the tax implications? For individuals, you are taxed on gifts exceeding $10K. Many projects on Kickstarter are for non-profits; I'm doubtful that is the case for Spike Lee. Donations are not the same as investments. Do they count as sales? Kickstarter has a document for "financial professionals" that it doesn't recommend you "read sober," so sounds a little too complicated for me to surf to an answer.

    There will be no significant backlash (monetarily) to celebrity projects. There will just be ones that are funded because they sound awesome to whatever demographic(s) and there will be those that aren't. And Kickstarter will make mucho dinero.

  • e jerry powell

    I'm 0 for 50 on all those shows.

  • Mrs. Julien

    Romola Garai looks like a "wallflower" character in a Regency romance novel. On the shelf at 27, she's too tall and too lush for the fashions of the time. Longing to be petite and willowy, she's self-conscious and a bit awkward, but genuine, clever, and wry. Soon, she'll meet a beautiful man who will be brought to his knees by her voluptuousness and vivacious personality. Although he's sworn off entanglements, he will be unable to resist the temptation to kiss her senseless during lulls in their flirtatious banter...

    I may need a moment to collect myself and my stays.

  • emmelemm

    She's purty.

  • Mrs. Julien

    That too.

  • e jerry powell

    7 for 7.

    Yup, I grew up in Texas.

  • Mrs. Julien

    UGH! How did you put up with the stop signs everywhere?

  • e jerry powell


  • NateMan

    1. I agree, The Mist was a better movie than book. That said, I will never watch that horrific ending again. Ever. Not now that I'm a dad especially.

    2. I know Spike Jones is sometimes a brilliant director, but he's such an asshole too.

  • e jerry powell

    Spike Jones? I thought he died in 1965.

  • NateMan

    Yeah, sorry. I was actually talking to a dude named Mr. Jones while I typed that and got distracted.

  • Fabius_Maximus

    Every King book is better as a movie, even if it includes ass weasels and Morgan Freeman phoning it in for the paycheck.

  • BWeaves

    The Mist (and also Torchwood: Children of Earth) are pretty much the same idea as an Ambrose Bierce short story about a civil war soldier who finds his best friend being eaten by wild pigs. The friend is still alive, and so is his horse, who is also injured. The soldier shots the horse to put it out of its misery, but has no way of saving the friend. The friend begs for death, but the soldier is out of bullets, so he takes his sword and kills his friend. As the friend dies, two other soldiers come over the hill carrying a stretcher.

  • Tinkerville

    I find stories like this wildly depressing (like most people, I imagine) but I'm so completely addicted to them. Off to consult a psychologist about this, brb.

  • DeltaJuliet

    Why wouldn't he put his friend out of his misery first? Did he not realize he only had one bullet? Apparently I need to read this story.

  • BWeaves

    It is considered mercy to put an animal out of its misery. It's considered murder to do it to a fellow human. It still is.

    Bierce wrote a lot of ghost stories and a lot of civil war stories, that, to me, are more horrifying for their reality.

  • ,

    I put it his way:

    If you put a suffering animal to sleep, you're humane. If you put a suffering human to sleep, you're an animal.

    That said, I really don't know why more people faced with the inevitable don't chuck themselves headfirst down a long marble staircase, or swan dive off the 45th floor. There's lots worse things than dying.

    Fear of not finishing the job would be my guess.

  • BWeaves

    Because, a lot of times, by the time you're sick enough to need the mercy killing, you're too sick to do it yourself. Plus, I wouldn't want to commit suicide, but I would like someone to painlessly help me die.

  • GDI

    AMEDD, during the time of the Civil War, wasn't all too effective. The sudden industrialization (and partial mechanization) of war led to more causalities than could be saved. AMEDD really stepped up their game in Vietnam, but that was due to great technological advancements that would allow for quick transport of casualties to a MASH, as well as more effective treatment when they arrived.

    Not to disparage prior medics and surgeons, as it must have been hell treating the wounded in their respective eras.

    With that in mind, maybe it isn't all that tragic to be killed quickly over falling to the slow death of a pathogen that could have claimed him later.

  • Ian Fay

    And now I am sad all over again that The Hour is cancelled.

  • Mitchell Hundred

    I recently watched it on Netflix for the first time, and while there was room for more development, I do think the end of the second season works as an ending for the series as a whole (albeit a rather dark one). It's not perfect, but I am satisfied with what we got.

  • foca9

    My thought as well :(

  • Why isn't Romola in every movie/tv show? I've been in love with her since Daniel Deronda. I even watched Dirty Dancing 2: Havana Nights because of her. Love forever.

  • toblerone

    She was in D.D. 2?

  • Oh my god, she was.


  • toblerone

    YUP, I will miss the fantastic cast and Bel's customes the showcase R.G's amazing figure.

    And Bel's glasses.

  • BWeaves

    The 7 sexiest numbers and he forgot 69?

  • Seriously. What a hack.

  • Three_nineteen

    I watch two of those shows. King and Maxwell because of Jon Tenney and Perception because of Eric McCormack. Both actors have reached the laugh-line, salt-and-pepper stage of their lives, and I am a sucker for a good looking middle-aged man.

  • JJ

    Well played, Mr. Carlson. I appreciate a site that can make fun of itself.

    Wait, he was making fun of Buzzfeed and not SRLs?

  • pajiba


    It was only a matter of time.

  • I'm going to make an SRL of the best SRLs on the site, but the number one will just be the list linking back to itself. Seriously Random Listception. Dun-DUNH.

  • alannaofdoom

    Wrong onomatopoeia there. Don't you mean "BRAAAAAAHHHHMMMMMMM."

  • Mitchell Hundred
  • JJ

    Ugh. Sounds like it involves too many click-through links.

  • JJ

    I didn't want you to be disappointed, but it took me a while to choose from the list of The 13 Jokes That Came To Mind That Demonstrate How SRLs Would Work Seamlessly on Buzzfeed. Mostly because I could enough gifs.

  • pajiba

    I appreciate the time and effort you put into the comment, sir. It's very kind of you.

  • Jifaner

    I would add Forrest Gump to the list of movies that improved the books. Everything that was fun or odd about him in the movie is x1000 in the book. Instead of a quirky, endearing character he is obnoxious and annoying. In short, the book sucks.

  • lowercase_ryan

    So it was Carlson who tipped off the Heritage Foundation?

  • dizzylucy

    Wow, of the top 50 shows, I only watched 2. And I watch a lot of TV.

    In a perfect world, people who have access to movie funding would just do that, and leave kickstarter to those without connections and other options. But I think the (very unique) Veronica Mars situation made a lot of people say, hey, I can get a couple million I don't have to pay back or answer to investors for, so I expect it will continue until people stop donating money.

  • jon29

    I am watching one.
    Note to self: why are you watching Under the Dome?

  • DeltaJuliet

    And I only watched 1! I watch an average amount of TV. So either I have really unique tastes, or most people's taste sucks.

  • Sara_Tonin00

    I started by thinking: Buzzfeed makes millions of dollars. Why would you give them content for free, Pajibator? And then I briefly wondered if he was trolling and....*slow clap*. Those are magnificent lists, all of them. Surpassing Lays Potato Chips in consumability, I not only continued past one, I had to read them all, even scrolling to the very end of the very last one I went for - the BC giforama.

  • Joe Grunenwald

    Those lists made me CRY.

  • Bert_McGurt

    Mr. Carlson deserves many a *slow clap*.

  • lowercase_ryan

    I want to see those cable lists with everyone watching Orange is the New Black factored in.

  • **I AM** NotTheOne

    Spike Lee could prolly go around asking rich stars to help him fund his films. And I don't think Celebitchy likes its celebrities. Always the worst pictures.

  • Mrs. Julien

    Well done, Community Contributor, danielwcarlson.

    If you are going to pick just one Cumberbatch gif, that does seem like an excellent choice.

    Also, kudos on not picking #1 as one of the sexiest because, as everyone knows, 1 is the loneliest number. It's alone in its bunk with that list right now.

  • Sara_Tonin00

    I upvoted because a) proper use of "it's" and "its" and b) I almost made a loneliest number comment also. (Is it wrong that I think of it as an Aimee Mann reference, when I thought it was supposed to be a Beatles reference, but apparently it's actually a Harry Nilsson reference? I just answered my own question. It's apparently all kinds of wrong.)

  • e jerry powell

    Or a Three Dog Night reference...

  • That header photo, tho.

  • She is wearing the hell out of that dress, isn't she?

  • e jerry powell

    I'm even older than I thought; I mistook her for a bleached-out Rose McGowan.

  • chanohack

    She's certainly using her considerable allure for good, not evil. Love it.

  • toblerone

    YUP. Someone give Romola a JOB NOW!

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