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Alec Baldwin Expresses Regret For His Homophobic Rant: Should We Forgive Him?

By Agent Bedhead | Pajiba Love | July 1, 2013 | Comments ()


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  • googergieger

    Also, weird how much shit Dexter gets(deservedly) but how much of a free pass Mad Men gets, despite so many episodes being one hour Draper doesn't know what the fuck he wants or who the fuck he is filler.

  • googergieger

    I never liked Alec Baldwin to begin with really.

  • tiny_bookbot

    Paul Feig is fantastic, but Joe Wright is another male director who understands the Bechdel test. (Atonement, P&P, Hanna...) He's said great things in interviews about the ways in which the female experience has been underexplored in film.

  • Mrs. Julien

    I am posting so much today, I should start adding "and then I found $5" to every comment I make.

    Hey look! $5!

  • Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh, that's where this came from

  • Deidra

    "The name is a doozy."

    Ace Knute Johnson is "a doozy?" In a world with celebrity baby names like Pilot Inspektor, Audio Science, and North West, we consider a "doozy" of a name to be Ace? And his middle name is his Swedish grandfather's first name

    Go home, inane celebrity gossip, you're drunk and fucking useless.

  • Mrs. Julien

    Still, once again, does one not wonder why no one has explained the concept of nicknames to these people, and others like them in every day life?

    Ace was one of our joke names before Little J arrived. We would say it was triplets and we were going the name them Ace, Cannon and Rex.

    And then I found $5.

  • DonnaSaurus

    Follow your own dream and concentrate on the positive in life! I need this embroidered on a pillow, stat!

  • LwoodPDowd

    Shouldn't apologizing to the person he actually slurred happen before sending PR apology statements to the GLAAD?

  • Long_Pig_Tailor

    While he's doing insincere and patronizing things, he should offer to hold an Appletini summit or something.

  • Maguita NYC

    There was nothing sincere about that apology to begin with. It was a clear PR stunt to control the hemorrhaging.

  • foolsage

    There wasn't nearly enough Maisie Williams (Arya Stark) in this collection of links. I'm here to remedy this lack.

    Here's Maisie reacting to an unexpected tryst in her bathroom:

    http://imgur.com/gallery/wrxlC

  • Forgive Alec, don't forgive him, it's hard for me to care. I mean, what he said was bad, but I almost feel like outside of 30 Rock, what he says/feels hardly rates on my radar. He says dumb stuff so much of the time that it's hard for me to really get my dander up about him.

    This doesn't excuse his gay slurs, but I just can't find it in myself to really give a shit.

  • Mrcreosote

    I want an All Dog version of the X-Files. RIGHT NOW! With that dog.

  • BWeaves

    Given that I thought that dog was David Tennant for a moment, I want an all dog Doctor Who. Doctor Shih Tzu?

  • lowercase_ryan

    More interesting question, why do we play the anthem before sports games?

  • BWeaves

    I thought it was to calm the rabble down.

  • Because sports games embody everything that is great(and everything that is not so great)about America.

  • lowercase_ryan
  • emmalita

    I just watched Goon this weekend and LOVED it.

  • Vi

    Marry a Dog? Psh. Imma gonna marry a pizza!

  • Last time I was in Chicago, I was served a pizza that looked so pretty I didn't know whether to eat it or fuck it, so there is precedence.

  • Maguita NYC

    Don't. Melted cheese burns like a mofo.

  • Mrs. Julien

    It clings, eh?

  • Maguita NYC

    Tried to be sexy once during a cheese fondue party-à-deux.

    Then I found 5$.

  • Mrs. Julien

    You "found 5$", did you? Why you little ----

  • Maguita NYC

    Mneeeeeh.

  • Twitter is vapid and meaningless. If you take it seriously or give it even the tiniest bit of credibility, you should be making your own apologies to society at large.

  • alwaysanswerb

    Wait, what? Whether we like it or not, Twitter is becoming (has become?) a behemoth in our social discourse. I will absolutely not apologize for holding people accountable for what they say, even if it's said in fewer than 140 characters.

  • Monica

    Right? Twitter is where news breaks. Twitter is where news breaks and then blows up. I spend half my working day on Twitter - as part of my job - to keep up with the news cycle alone. People might use it in a vapid and meaningless way, but it's almost silly to write it off like that.

  • Mr_Zito

    I'm so glad I'm not watching Dexter anymore.

  • Long_Pig_Tailor

    I'm going to go with... Probably forgive him? I feel like he's one of those assholes who when they get pissed they just say whatever shit comes to mind that sounds mean and hurtful, without actually meaning most of the serious underlying stuff of the words used? If that makes any sense.

    That is to say-- He is an asshole, but he's probably not actually a homophobic asshole.

  • Long_Pig_Tailor

    My premise being that we're basically cool with someone being an asshole, as long as they're not bigoted assholes. See: Christian Bale vs., say, Mel Gibson.

  • $2786243

    Baldwin gets mad and uses racist/sexist/homophobic language. How does that make him different from Mel Gibson?

  • Long_Pig_Tailor

    Mel Gibson seems to actually hold that worldview, albeit more well-hidden, when not mad and/or drunk. It's not quite as clear that's the case with Baldwin. I'm pretty cool with just not forgiving him, though. He's funny, but not remotely indispensable.

  • Mrs. Julien

    I have been angry, I have been drunk, I have been angry and drunk, and I have never spoken to someone like that or said those kinds of things. You know why? Because I don't think that way and therefore don't have to deal with repercussions of my mouth outstripping my grey matter.

  • $2786243

    Right. The fact that this crap is apparently Baldwin's 'default' mode speaks volumes.

  • BWeaves

    "What is said while drunk has been thought out beforehand."

  • Mrs. Julien

    That's a keeper.

  • Sara_Tonin00

    We praise the extended and eloquent insults in In the Loop and Veep. We quote easily the threats issued in The Godfather or The Sopranos or Goodfellas (ugh, especially Goodfellas).

    "Vicious old queen" sounds pretty mild to me - "queen" isn't even that derogatory. Some people just pick the words they know hurt the most, even if they don't necessarily believe the idea behind them. I remember calling a South African classmate a "Boer." (and yes, he knew I meant Boer, and not bore) He was infuriated. I knew he would be. I also knew he was English-South African, and not racist, and he knew I knew that. But I wanted to provoke him and I successfully did. (I'm not proud of it, I was a teenager, but it's germane)

  • emmalita

    I get what you're saying - both points. I sort of agree with you and I sort of don't. I really enjoy watching or reading about fictional characters behaving in ways I never would. I'll never be as eloquently aggressive as the characters on Veep, but I can fantasize about it. When someone pisses me off I can imagine saying something that will totally cut them off at the knees. But I won't because I'm not that creative and it's rarely as satisfying in real life as it is in fantasy.

    More importantly, I think there is a tremendous difference between a teenager saying something deliberately nasty to get a reaction and a grown-ass man saying such nasty things. Ideally, we are supposed to mature out of that behavior. Add in that Baldwin a) has gotten in trouble for this before, and b) had the additional step of hitting a button before his angry rant went out to the world, and the level of culpability increases.

    (Most importantly, I did not down-vote you).

    Are there more important things for us to get angry about? Yes! But I understand why people are pissed, and don't want to see Baldwin be forgiven again.

  • Maguita NYC

    I wonder if Angelina Jolie was caught viciously yelling at one of her sons and calling him "thoughtless little pig" would have been forgiven.

    And what if not long after she punches the wall near another actress's head in utter frustration for not getting her way during rehearsal for a Broadway play?

    And what if after that she verbally attacks a photographer, screaming "crackhead, drug dealer" adding "I want you to choke to death"?

    Then she gets thrown out of a plane because not only she refuses to put her phone down, but she also verbally attacks the plane staff...

    And after that she tweets homophobic slurs against a journalist...

    Well, you get the picture. Many women in Hollywood had done a lot less than Alec Effing Baldwin and did not get away with it. Not only where they publicly lynched, but they suffered financial loss as well.

  • ,

    I wonder what Paula Deen thinks.

  • Maguita NYC

    Exactly my point. Equal punishment for Alec Baldwin, or let Paula Deen get off equally scot free.

  • Sara_Tonin00

    Eh, Courtney Love? She's still around. Zsa-Zsa? Naomi?

    But I don't recall any public lynchings of actresses. And I'd hazard the educated opinion that throwing the phrase "lynching" around is about as unsettling/outrage-inducing for a lot of blacks as throwing around the word "rape" is for a lot of women.

  • ,

    Does Paula Deen count as an actress?

  • Maguita NYC

    Courtney Love is unemployable. Naomi Campbell is a model, different rules apply to that world. No matter her temporary attempt (and failed) at acting.

    From Jane Fonda to Melissa Leo, by way of Angela Bassett, Wynona Ryder, Sean young, Ingrid Bergman, Hilary Swank, Kate Winslet, even Halle Berry, Mo'Nique, and so many more who had at a time or another done something we did not agree with, and had more than paid the price for it.

    Some made a comeback, some never recovered from the Hollywood ostracizing (if that is a word you are more comfortable with then my figurative use of public lynching), but all had to suffer for their actions. So much more than Alec Fucking Baldwin has been made to suffer so far for his repeated, and very public offenses.

    Whether you agree with these women or not, they were much more rigidly condemned and held accountable for their actions than their male counterparts. Most had to bow their heads and make amends, or simply disappear form the public eye in shame. However, it took quite some time before they were invited back to grace our screens.

    And that was my point. All I ask is for equal punishment be dished out.

  • emmalita

    Francis Farmer.

  • Maguita NYC

    This one belongs to a whole other club of unfairly mistreated and misdiagnosed women. That was the age of unusual cruelty to those who expected and demanded equal treatment. Her story is quite sad.

  • Sara_Tonin00

    I'm not really pro-Baldwin or anything - I guess I find myself unable to get that worked up about him.

    But what are the incidents with Angela Bassett, Kate Winslet, Hilary Swank or Melissa Leo that you are referencing? I don't want to argue your examples rather than your point, but I'm not familiar with them being ostracized by Hollywood.

    Sean Young seems to be the closest to Alec Baldwin, but that was also years ago. But I do think there are cases of men like RDJ or Mickey Rourke.

    Quite honestly, I'm more disturbed with people like Chris Brown being accepted back into the fold - people who have, without doubt, maliciously caused bodily harm to other people.

  • Long_Pig_Tailor

    I don't actually care how anybody thinks. It's entirely possible every other person on the planet is a complete lunatic for all I know, I can only go by their actions. Alec Baldwin's probably going to continue to get away with this because, while there is obviously a pattern at work here, he only says this shit when drunk and/or angry, and people seem bizarrely inclined to letting that kind of thing go when it doesn't extend to their sober behavior.

  • alwaysanswerb

    I don't actually care how anybody thinks. It's entirely possible every
    other person on the planet is a complete lunatic for all I know, I can
    only go by their actions.

    That's the thing, though. To go off of actions alone, exhibits A-Z are Alec Baldwin continually using slurs and acting violently. To try to excuse that behavior as being *only* when he's drunk or angry is actually bringing "how he thinks" or intent into it where it wasn't otherwise. Mrs. Julien's point isn't that she's trying to surmise how he thinks; it's that he behaves that way repeatedly, where many, many other people don't, even when they're drunk, or angry, and their personal filters are less tightly regulated than usual.

  • Steph

    Yes! Thank you. This! This is exactly what I keep trying to explain when people say that Paula Deen used the N word after she'd been held at gunpoint. First of all, that's not the worst part of what she's accused of. Secondly, there are a LOT of words I would use to describe someone who held me at gunpoint. That particular word is NOWHERE on the list.

  • Long_Pig_Tailor

    As you say, the real reasons Paula Deen is getting her reputation trashed are not the gunpoint thing, but I want to ask-- Do you happen to be a sixtysomething Southern person? Because I'd be surprised if that word wasn't on the list of things you call someone who robbed you at gunpoint, were you a sixtysomething Southern person. And personally, were that the only time you used that word or behaved with some kind of racial bias, I wouldn't think you were terrible.

    Whether everyone is admitting it or not, Paula Deen is getting a pass for the N word at gunpoint thing. What she isn't getting a pass for is being an expensive Food Network property who had a nasty lawsuit become a big public spectacle. She's being fired 90% to avoid trouble and maybe 10% for actual moral objections.

  • Steph

    As it happens, my husband will be 63 this year and he was raised in Tennessee. He was always told that was "not a nice word" even though a few of his relatives used it. I am fully confident that word has never left his lips and would never leave his lips no matter what sort of stress he was under. So...yeah. I blame her.

  • Maguita NYC

    Because he didn't call the "queen journalist" Sugar Tits*?

    *Facetious

  • $2786243

    That's what I call everybody when I'm drunk and mad.

  • emmalita

    Agree. I think the difference is that Mel Gibson says that shit when he's not angry, too. However, I just spent a week with elder family members throwing temper tantrums and I currently have negative amounts of patience for this behavior.

  • princessdi81

    I feel like we are always forgiving Alec Baldwin. I can't for the life of me figure out why. He seems like an asshole.

  • Maguita NYC

    The list is starting to get very long for Baldwin's "missteps" in assholistic behavior.

    So far he has publicly attacked: His ex-wife, his daughter, Broadway actresses, fellow actors, black photographers, flight attendants, queen journalists...

    Yes, rehab is in order.

  • Sara_Tonin00

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  • emmalita

    It's like the Dan Harmon/Chevy Chase asshat race - they are both asshats. One's asshattery does not excuse the others

  • Mrs. Julien

    I would forgive him if, instead of issuing apologies every time his entitled anger gets the best of him, he acknowledged being an entitled angry person who needs, and then gets, help. I don't care if he's sorry. He's always sorry. Maybe address the root of the problem this time, dude.

  • dizzylucy

    Or if he'd, oh I don't know, learn from his mistakes and not continue to repeat them?

  • Slash

    Yeah, this. I mean, I'll still watch "30 Rock" reruns, but I have just about decided that he wasn't acting on that show so much as he was channeling a slightly nicer version of himself. Also, editing. And writing.

  • emmalita

    This.

  • Mrs. Julien

    Seriously, "he only hits me when he's drunk".

  • Erin S

    I got all but two correct on the Paul Rudd quiz, and both were a matchup between 2004 Rudd and 2010 Rudd. Perhaps that was when his looks did a "reboot" and reset to his default ageless beauty?

    Or maybe he just had similar haircuts.

  • lonolove

    I also got all but two correct, using the simple technique of choosing the handsomest Rudd. He has, demonstrably, gotten better with age.

  • kirbyjay

    I got 1 Paul Rudd wrong. Do I get a Paul Rudd or a reasonable facsimile as a prize? Or do I have to get no Rudd's wrong?

  • Long_Pig_Tailor

    So... You're saying Time Lord who seems to have picked a form?

    Ooh. Or maybe a Highlander-style immortal who got a little refresh from a recent Quickening.

    Day-walking style of vampire on a blood-restricted diet with six year gaps between feedings?

    Is God and just fucking with us.

    Or maybe just had really subtle work done.

  • e jerry powell

    Can I not forgive him and still lust after him?

    I know, that's just masochistic.

  • Mrs. Julien

    Your id is so mean to you.

  • John W

    Alec Baldwin and Dan Harmon should start a club.

  • BWeaves

    1. I thought that dog was David Tennant for a moment.

    2. Duck tape is wonderful.

  • emmalita

    Spare the Duct Tape, Spoil the job.

    -Red Green

  • Maguita NYC

    We all know Alec Baldwin suffers from Schweaty Balls. They itch like a motherfucker, and make him act like an asshole.

    Not his fault, it is a hopeless condition.

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