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The Films of 1999: Eyes Wide Shut / Drew Morton

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On March 7th 1999, four days after screening his first cut of Eyes Wide Shut (1999) to stars Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman (still married at the time) and Warner Brothers executives, director Stanley Kubrick died at the age of 70. Kubrick, of course, was long known for his perfectionist qualities, which often continued after a film made its theatrical debut. For instance, following its disastrous New York premiere, Kubrick trimmed nearly twenty minutes from 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968). More than a decade later, after The Shining (1980) was in its general release for a week, Kubrick demanded the film’s original ending be revised. This said, as scholar Michel Chion asserts in his BFI monograph on Eyes Wide Shut, “It is highly likely that Kubrick would have made changes had he been able, but we must accept seeing this film as it was left after its director’s death.” Re-watching the film for the first time in maybe six years, I was still engrossed by its mysteries and its aesthetic beauty. Yet, for the first time, I felt confused by some of Kubrick’s formal choices. Perhaps part of this confusion was unintentional, as Chion notes. Yet, those inconsistencies are present in the text and they fundamentally altered the film for me upon review.

Kubrick’s film, an adaptation of a novella by Arthur Schnitzler entitled Traumnovelle (Dream Story), begins as a wealthy married couple, Dr. Bill Harford (Tom Cruise) and his wife Alice (Nicole Kidman), prepare to attend a Christmas party at the home of one of Bill’s patients, Victor Ziegler (Sydney Pollack). When they arrive, Bill is drawn away from his wife by Nick Nightingale (Todd Field), an old medical school acquaintance, now a jazz pianist. As the party progresses, Alice finds herself in the arms of a Hungarian man who attempts to seduce her while two young models try to do the same to Bill. Under the effects of marijuana the following night, Alice and Bill discuss their encounters with their would-be seducers. The conversation becomes confrontational when Bill assumes that Alice would never cheat on him, simply because women are hard-wired into marital lives that command commitment and security. Alice, angered by Bill’s assumption, confesses that she once considered cheating on him and leaving their lives together simply because of a glance she once shared with a naval officer.

After Alice’s confession, the phone immediately rings, drawing the confused and bitter Bill out onto the night-shrouded streets of New York City. He is instantly propelled on a sexual odyssey that includes such highlights as a run in with a prostitute (Vinessa Shaw) and an un-invited trip to a Venetian masked-orgy. When Bill refuses to leave the orgy, he is threatened by a mysterious man in a red cloak. Before Bill can be harmed, a mysterious woman steps forward and “redeems” him. The next morning, Bill discovers that his friend Nick, who informed him about the orgy, has disappeared and that the body of a woman, who shares a striking physical resemblance to the one who saved him at the orgy, is in the morgue. Were the events of the following night real or just a nightmare? What possible consequences will they have, as a dream or as reality, when Bill returns home to Alice? That question is the preoccupation at the heart of Kubrick’s final film.

Perhaps the oddest thing about Eyes Wide Shut from the perspective of this retrospective is that it, as critic Jonathan Rosenbaum noted in his review, “isn’t a film of the 90s in most respects but something closer to what movies at their best used to be.” While Rosenbaum’s comment is drawn from his description of the film’s aesthetic attributes (specifically its old-fashioned sound track, the grainy photography, and exquisite color balances), I would tend to place it in the domain of the old fashioned via two other characteristics: the film’s ambiguity and moral viewpoint. The film’s ambiguity stems from the question of what, exactly, is the nature of Bill’s journey? Is it a dream or is it reality? The film, both to its credit and to a degree of weakness, tries to play it both ways. For instance, Bill’s odyssey begins with an encounter that seems to take place in a parallel universe. He is beckoned the house of a patient who passed away in his sleep and tries to comfort the patient’s grieving daughter, Marion (Marie Richardson). As their encounter progresses, Marion reveals that she has wanted to give up her life to be with Bill, just as Alice confessed in the previous scene. As Chion has shown, Kubrick enhances this thematic echo visually with two virtually identical steadicam shots, the first framing Bill, the second framing Marion’s boyfriend (who looks a lot like Tom Cruise’s Bill).

Bill’s encounters get more surreal as the evening progresses. First, nearly every woman Bill meets offers herself up to him. Men, on the other hand, react to Bill with either homophobia or sexual attraction (as Alan Cumming’s hotel desk clerk does). Secondly, there are odd repetitions foregrounded in the film. For instance, during Ziegler’s party, the two models attempting to seduce Bill tell him that they want to take him where “the rainbow ends.” Later, when Bill needs a costume to attend the orgy, the shop is coincidentally called “Rainbow Fashions.” Finally, to draw off Chion’s analysis once again, characters engage in minimalist dialogue, often parroting one another to a comical and, sometimes, frustrating degree:

[At Ziegler’s Party.]
MODEL: Where the rainbow ends.
BILL: Where the rainbow ends?
[During Bill and Alice’s argument.]
BILL: What did he want?
ALICE: What did he want Oh… What did he want.
[During the orgy.]
RED CLOAK: The password for the House.
BILL: The password for the house?

Through the dialogue, the mirroring compositions, the stylized lighting (Christmas lights, like candles in Barry Lyndon, seem to provide the lighting for every scene); we are pressed to read Bill’s odyssey as a sexual nightmare. Yet, as noted above, Kubrick does not relay to us where reality ends and dream begins, producing a film that wants to have it both ways.

Watching the film the first couple of times, I felt that the party sequence was real and the events between either Bill and Alice’s lovemaking (emphasized by an ellipsis) or her revelation and his confession to her upon returning home and finding the mask on the bed (again emphasized by an ellipsis) were a dream. How else could you justify the ambiguity of the woman that “redeems” Bill at the orgy? Specifically, the film, via both voice-over and a dialogue exchange, attempts to relay to us that it is the same woman Bill saved from an over-dose at Ziegler’s party. However, that woman had crimson hair and the one who sacrifices herself for Bill has dark blond hair (we also see her talking to the red headed woman, presumably the one Bill saved, in one scene). Are they the same woman? The sequence does not make any logical sense when categorized as reality, hence my temptation to read it as a fantasy. Yet, if we are to take the formal devices of parroted dialogue and stylized lighting as indicators of something other than reality, we notice that they both appear before the “dream” begins.

Finally, if Bill’s odyssey is a dream, how is he privy to an omniscient point-of-view? Specifically, in the final act of the film, Kubrick shows us Bill’s missing mask on a pillow next to Alice’s sleeping face. Yet, Bill has yet to realize where he left it, let alone enter the room. If it is his dream, which would make it a subjective experience, this objective shot seems strikingly out of place. Obviously, the line between dream and reality is fuzzy in Eyes Wide Shut, which I appreciate intellectually to a point but also find maddening (For the record, I would not prefer a formal device as obvious as a shot of Bill falling asleep. I would have been happy with something far more subtle.). As James Naremore writes in his study of Kubrick, “These repetitions and transformations [in Eyes Wide Shut] create a problem of interpretation.” Essentially, the spectator is left in an unresolved state of ambiguity. As I said earlier, Rosenbaum was discussing aesthetics as marking the film as not being from the 90s. Yet, I find the film’s ambiguity as not being characteristic of the films of that decade (with the notable exception of films of the American independent cinema movement) but much more in line sensibilities of European art cinema of the 60s and 70s.

Finally, the overall moral message of the film does not share the belief and value system of the late 90s. While it is rather progressive of the film to acknowledge that Alice is a sexual creature and that love may not last “forever,” she is viewed by her husband in an oddly Victorian fashion, unwaveringly faithful. Moreover, despite the abundance of nudity and the controversy surrounding the orgy sequence (it was once censored thanks to the strategic placement of digital fig leaves), the sex depicted within it is surprisingly abstract.

The orgy is not sensual; the music and camera’s spatial distance from, for lack of a better word, the action does not allow the viewer to become enticed. Finally, the end exchange between Alice and Bill is telling with regard to the film’s morality:

ALICE: Then we have to do something very important.
BILL: What’s that?
ALICE: We need to fuck.

Thus, in the end, the film suggests that the couple’s sexual fantasies can be assimilated into their relationship. Instead of fucking the naval officer or a masked woman at an orgy, Alice and Bill can fuck one another, treasuring fidelity, even if it isn’t immortal in the end. This ending is not of the contemporary period with regard to two respects. First, the morality of the message seems reactionary. Secondly, Kubrick refuses to give both the on-screen couple and the audience a traditional happy ending. As Naremore writes, “Whatever optimism there might be in the last scene is extremely hard won, and the film has the courage to leave its characters relatively unchanged…Tomorrow and the next day they will have similar adventures, which they may or may not survive.” Thus, there is a complex tension in the fílm’s resolution, adding a second layer of uncertainty and ambiguity, making it more reminiscent of Michelangelo Antonioni’s films of the 1960s than 1999’s seventh highest-grossing film, Notting Hill (1999).

A Hilarious Note of Coincidence: Following my viewing of Eyes Wide Shut on Thursday night, I found myself in the midst of the latest episode of “Saturday Night Live Weekend Update.” I was shocked when Bill Hader’s James Carville went on a rant about the film. You can see the clip here, but make sure to fast-forward to roughly 2 minutes from the end.

Drew Morton is a Ph.D. student in Cinema and Media Studies at the University of California-Los Angeles. He has previously written for the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel and UWM Post and is the 2008 recipient of the Otis Ferguson Award for Critical Writing in Film Studies.


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Oh, is that what's going on in this movie? I still don't get it.
I do love me some James Carville, though.

Posted by: ShannonAnn at September 21, 2009 4:46 PM

I can't tell...through this review, if you liked the film or not. I really hope you didn't. While some people consider it his masterpiece (I believe even Kubrick himself did) I think it was probably his worst film. I can't recall how long that scene was that consisted only of Kidman (I tried to look online for the time for about 2 minutes then said fuck it) but I do remember how I watched that scene.
One: watch
Two: get bored and look at wall
Three: watch
Four: stare at toenails
Five: watch
Six: get up and make a sandwich
Seven: eat sandwich, glance at screen
Eight: leave room to smoke a cigarette
Nine: fuck, come back to realize the movie has progressed
Ten: rewind until the movie starts again

Seriously. I think I read some where that the average attention span of an American is something like seven seconds. I know you can watch most films and count everytime there is a new shot. It usually changes every seven seconds. I'm serious, try it. Visually the movie was ok, it was no A Clockwork Orange, but it was ok. Story wise? It fucking blew, you don't get an emotional investment with any of the characters. You don't really give a fuck about the plot or anything that happens. I just remember being bored out of my fucking mind. BORED.

By the way, no mention of Leelee Sobieski? Tisk, Tisk.

Posted by: DeistBrawler at September 21, 2009 4:58 PM

Deist,

I didn't outright make a judgment. While Strangelove, 2001, and Barry Lyndon are probably my top three of his filmography, the majority of Kubrick films always put me on my toes. I've alternated between loving and hating "A Clockwork Orange," "Full Metal Jacket" was never my favorite, but it improves for me with each viewing.

"Eyes Wide Shut" used to be in my top five but, after this latest viewing, I thought less of it than I once did. I don't dislike it, I find the aesthetic of it lovely, and I enjoy its ambiguities to a point. Let, perhaps because of his death at such an early stage in post-production, the end product seems uncharacteristically shaggy. Needless to say, I'm very conflicted about it.

After re-watching many of his films this summer, my top five probably looks something like this:

1. Strangelove
2. 2001
3. Barry Lyndon
4. Paths of Glory
5. The Shining

Posted by: Drew Morton at September 21, 2009 5:08 PM

2 troubles in this movie:
-the orgy is so ridiculous
-where and what Kubrick want to go/say!

Posted by: carrie at September 21, 2009 5:16 PM

Yeah...different strokes for different folks.
1. Full Metal Jacket
2. A Clockwork Orange
3. Dr. Strangelove
4. The Shining
5. 2001: A Space Odyssey

Posted by: DeistBrawler at September 21, 2009 5:21 PM

Thanks Drew. I love reading your essays.

Maybe you'll find this interesting. It's Jim Emerson's (a.k.a. Ebert's editor) take on the Opening Scene (his analysis is in italics):

http://blogs.suntimes.com/scanners/2006/12/opening_shots_eyes_wide_shut_1.html#more

Posted by: groovekiller at September 21, 2009 5:27 PM

There is one word here that you seem to have missed thematically: Jealousy. One of the aspects that were apparent in the movie is how he deals with jealousy on the psychological level and how it bleeds into all of his interactions. To not acknowledge jealousy and its part in the plot is to miss one of the major points of this film.

If you've never been jealous before then maybe you have no emotional anchor to this film.

The general estimation of this film is that of enigma. Looked at from an authorial point of view, that might be the best way for Stanley to go out: enigmatically.

This is a Rorshach test: what do you see?

Posted by: Recondite at September 21, 2009 5:32 PM

Hot damn, someone started the Pajiba Movie Club a day early.

Well, it's been a few years since I saw it. I recall being intrigued by Kubrick's desire to make a big budget blue movie and the real life married couple being featured in it. And I remember lots of sex and nudity... I'll try to push past the prurient stuff and recall the plot and themes.

I definitely think it was a psychological exploration of Tom Cruise dealing with his anxiety over sex and infidelity. He was a committed married man, he was intrigued by the prospect of fucking two young models but ultimately unable to commit to acting on it.

I'm reminded of that Seinfeld episode with the roommate switch/ menage a trois- "I can't. I'm not an orgy guy." Contrary to popular belief a lot of men, especially married ones, though they may fantasize about it or jerk off to it on the internet, would be too (conservative/ intimidated/ morally conflicted/ faithful) to have random sex with two hot chicks or to enter the seedy world of underground sex clubs and orgies. A part of them wants to, but they just aren't orgy guys.

It's that temptation and fascination with sexual indulgences he will never know that gives rise to the resulting inner tension/ regret/ feelings of inadequacy, etc. (especially when jarred by his wife's acknowledgment of her own sexuality and desire- not always focused on him) which leads to the exploration of sex and danger in the rest of the film.

Or I could be way off base, it's been awhile.

Posted by: Yossarian at September 21, 2009 5:33 PM

fyi, alice's last word is just "Fuck".

Posted by: vaskark at September 21, 2009 5:35 PM

Also, the geometric architecture of the palace in which the orgy is taking place is heavily Arabesque, which, following the lines of Western literature a la Poe, feeds into that episode occurring in a dream, not reality.

Either way, to insist on having the lines of reality and dream distinctly drawn for better viewer comprehension is to also miss the point of the film: they bleed into one another effortlessly, as opposed to having full control of each one distinctly as you are either dreaming or awake. We cannot completely control where our minds take us.

Viewed in a more open-ended light, the film opens discussion more than closes it.

Posted by: Recondite at September 21, 2009 5:36 PM

Recondite,

Just because I didn't use the word "jealousy," doesn't mean it isn't there. Bill's journey obviously stems from it, as I alluded to when I described him as "bitter and confused."

As for dream vs. reality, as I said I don't mind ambiguity, but the formal flourishes Kubrick places in the film to help mark the space are not used appropriately. The use of ellipses is the logical marker, but the placement is off. Also, the objective shot of the mask still doesn't make sense given the subjective point-of-view. I'm all for blurring boundaries, but the techniques here seemed uncharacteristically messy for a Kubrick film (perhaps due to his premature death).

Posted by: Drew Morton at September 21, 2009 5:42 PM

I agree with all of your points about the film, but I disagree that any of these qualities amount to a demerit. Kubrick has stated that Eraserhead is one of his favorite films, and I would draw parallels between Eyes Wide Shut and the works of David Lynch; both concern themselves with stilted, dreamlike approximations of the world which are both ambiguous and unexpectedly unsettling for their juxtapositions of the banal with the absurd.

History shows us that Kubrick was almost always working a few years ahead of his audience, and it is my belief that this is true of his last film as well.

Posted by: Chris at September 21, 2009 5:46 PM

So, for the sake of argument, what do you think Kubrick would say of your usage of "appropriate", "off", "doesn't make sense", and "uncharacteristically messy"? Why so much conventionality and the standards thereof to describe a director who is anything but?

That's kind of like telling Jackson Pollack his works need to be "less messy". Transposing your intended purposes of a film with that of Kubrick's may make for an interesting academic exercise in analysis, but it doesn't really approach understanding the movie "outside of the box."

Your review is more in line with an "in the box" standard, which I don't see at play in this film.

Posted by: Recondite at September 21, 2009 5:49 PM

Oh, how I hated this film. Loathed it. I hated the interaction between Cruise and Kidman, particularly. It felt like he was trying to let them improv it, to an extent, and like they were just awful at it. To be honest, it never even occurred to me that any of it was a dream, despite the repetition of elements. Not one moment of it struck me that way.

However, I think you make an excellent point about Kubrick not having that opportunity to go back and edit it into something a little more coherent (or even cohesive). And, I do have to agree that visually, it is a stunning film, which I think is perhaps why I hated it so much; why make such a narrative mess of such a gorgeous piece of work? I did not, at the time, appreciate the ending, probably because I was too busy being annoyed, though I tend to prefer things not wrapped up in a neat little bow (likely why I enjoy films of the 70s so much).

In short, now I'm going to wind up watching this movie that I hated again. Thanks, Drew. Thanks a lot.

Posted by: Anna von Beaverplatz at September 21, 2009 5:55 PM

Recondite,

Thanks for pushing me on this. I appreciate it with all sincerity. As you might have been able to tell, I've been feeling a bit of Private Joker's duality about this film.

Okay, so above you made a comment:

"Either way, to insist on having the lines of reality and dream distinctly drawn for better viewer comprehension is to also miss the point of the film: they bleed into one another effortlessly, as opposed to having full control of each one distinctly as you are either dreaming or awake. We cannot completely control where our minds take us."

I would tend to agree with your points, but I think our disagreement is over the use of "distinct." I don't think the use of ellipses as a formal marker would be distinct on a first or second viewing (maybe to someone taking copious notes because they do occur so far apart in the duration of the film). Certainly not like a shot of Bill falling asleep would be (which I would despise as a device). Let me emphasize that I treasure the ambiguity of the film but repeated viewings should enrich the experience or allow for deeper associated to be made. On my forth viewing, I felt like it was shaggy for Kubrick's style. After all, Kubrick was so meticulous that he had the level of wine in the glasses fluctuate in "A Clockwork Orange" because the narrator was drugged. In other words, there is almost always seems to be a motivation for an inconsistency in his films.

I think the problem is that the theatrical cut is his first cut and he would have changed it. It's a hard film to judge for that reason, as part of it seems unfinished. There's a lot of greatness contained here and I look forward to my next viewing, which will probably change my mind again.

Posted by: Drew Morton at September 21, 2009 5:59 PM

/delurk

I always looked at it as more of an examination of Bill's belief that Alice would always be faithful and the revelation that she had had vivid fantasies of another man. Bill's moral dilemma at that point leads him to seek out his own fantasies -- whether it's a dream or real isn't important. In the end he finds that he is the one who is incapable of being unfaithful (even if it's only due to fear).

$.02

/relurk

Posted by: duquesne_pdx at September 21, 2009 6:02 PM

The issue is that you are using his previous works as a historical precedent to explain what he's doing in this one. Artists who are constantly experimenting and honing their craft until the day they die will probably treat each new project differently, as can be seen from the time-span that passed from his previous movie to this one.

Viewed in that light, you have to at least consider the possibility that he's not replicating his previous movies' patterns, but trying something new.

You have to consider this movie on its own merits to reach a better understanding of it instead of saying, "Why isn't it more like x movie?", or, "As we've seen in x movie in the past, he's clearly doing this" while ignoring what's actually going on on the screen.

I'm not saying to completely ignore historical precedents, but to not make them so central to understanding the film. There may be watermarked idiosyncrasies that are endemic to Kubrick, but I get the feeling he didn't want to make the same movie twice, hence why so much time passed between his projects.

Posted by: Recondite at September 21, 2009 6:07 PM

Man, that was L-A-M-E. (not your review - that was awesome - the friggin' clip sucked) Seriously? Never saw the movie, nor have I any intentions to, but I'll tell you one thing - that orgy would've been something to fake a crap attack to - after you'd excused yourself to go to the can, you'd wind up at Applebees for some jalapeno poppers and two-for-one MGDs...

Head Lame Orgy Monk: Welcome to the circus of carnal desires - let us hum.

Lame Orgy People: huuuuuuuuuummmmmm... huuuuuuuuuummmmmm... etc.

[...door slams open & lone figure rushes in - humming stops and everyone turns...]

Skittimus Maximus Esquire III: Hey everyone! Sorry I'm late to the freaky orgy, but parking is a bitch out there! I shoulda car-pooled with somebo... Where the hell are the armholes on these robes? Jesus Chri... Oh - am I supposed to be wearing a mask? Shit... Gimme a minute.

Head Lame Orgy Monk: Tonight we cast aside all taboo, all things holding us b...

[...door opens - figure enters with plastic 7-11 bag over his head...]

Skittimus Maximus Esquire III: Look! I'm that bagheaded guy from that creepy movie where those fucking psycho people are trying to kill that chick from the Aerosmith videos! HAHAHAHA! Creepy, huh? So we ready to get this party rocking? Check out this suction cupped floppity thing I got - it straps over my head and you attach the vibrating nutsa...

Assistant Lame Orgy Monk: Excuse us? Sir? We're in the middle of a carnival of the flesh which we've gone to great measures to keep both elegant and intrigui...

Skittimus Maximus Esquire III: Ohmigawd, you look like friggin' Destro in that thing! AWESOME! Say, is the Baroness floating around here? A few of my soldiers might go spelunking in salty caverns of Cobra Island! Get it? HA! So... Where's the snack table?

Assistant Orgy Monk: I... uh... as I was saying - this is a sacred night of...

Skittimus Maximus Esquire III: Wow, it reeks of patchouli in here! You guys are all clean right? I'm not into any freaky hippie shit...

Head Lame Orgy Monk: As my assistant was trying to say - this is a private event - a sacred event. And had you been invited, you would have seen the invitation clearly stated a guest was required to accompany you tonight. Now, if you wouldn't mind...

Skittimus Maximus Esquire III: Oh, I've got a guest...

[...figure opens robe, revealing one-eyed lump with a twisted, turkey-like appendage...]

Skittimus Maximus Esquire III: Yeah it's a little weird at first, but you'll get into it once the LSD kicks in... Who's first? I likes 'em HAIRY!

Head Lame Orgy Monk: ...

Assistant Orgy Monk: ...

Lame Orgy People:...

Posted by: Skitz at September 21, 2009 6:10 PM

.....aaaand there's Skitz for the decontextualized comic relief.

Imperfect timing.

Posted by: Recondite at September 21, 2009 6:17 PM

I would love to get into it on this one, as my personal experience with this film is an up and down one, but unfortunately stupid work is unusually demanding today. For the time being, I'll just say thanks for the good review. Also, in the end evaluation I really dig this film a lot.

Posted by: DarthCorleone at September 21, 2009 6:18 PM

"Imperfect timing."

I know. After I posted it I saw that the discussion had actually evolved. Now I feel like a douche. My apologies, folks. I just couldn't get into the movie.

Sorry. Please continue.

Posted by: Skitz at September 21, 2009 6:25 PM

I had the pleasure of watching "Eyes" with the author of the review, although in some respects we saw a different film. "Eyes" is a Rorshach, indeed, though in the end the film sadly amounts to little more than an inky mess, open to any interpretation one cares to read into it. A few observations:

Everyone refers to the ritual sequence as an orgy, though if it can be called that at all, it is a "failed" orgy at best; at a minimum the sex here is more spectatorial than participative. It is also decidedly sinister and one-sided--more a bordello for Masons than an exercise in equal-opportunity, libertine behavior. I have no answer as to the significance of the ritual sequence, but it seems more a meditation on anonymity, class (perhaps money is the film's real preoccupation), and domination than marital betrayal.

As for the release of the film and context of American morality in the late 90s, I'm not sure any claim can be made (whose late '90s morals, exactly?). Although if I were to hazard a comparison, I'd say the film's couple is very congruent with the era--publicly prudish, privately licentious (or, in pot-fueled moments, wanting to be, anyway). It's all very Victorian, and very 1990s--the era of public witch hunts (and private hypocrisy) over sex and fidelity.

While "Eyes" proves enigmatic, the film is no Antonioni mystery. Antonioni films (at their best) have real consequences; people really disappear, they actually have affairs. And while the mere thought of betrayal can have its consequences, a film about thoughts must still generate some real stakes. Did Cruise's character, propelled by jealousy or betrayal, dream his non-sex, or have his non-sex? Either way, there is not much to confess in the end. And while dream and wakeful states may indeed blur in delightfully (or terrorizingly) puzzling ways, here the subject matter is providing a little too much cover for indecisive technique and story-telling. Thankfully, we have many and much better Kubrick films to ponder. And thanks to Drew for his nuanced attempt at finding a form in such a shapeless film.

Posted by: David at September 21, 2009 6:59 PM

Whatever, I love Skitt. The discussion may certainly continue around his bloop of funny. You hear me, Skitt? I adore you, please have my babies.

I tried to watch this movie years ago and, honestly, I just kept getting so BORED. Therefore I have no real opinion of it, since I wasn't able to finish the damn thing. It was very pretty, and I liked looking at the masks (I love Venetian carnival masks) but I kept falling into the 1,000 yard stare at the wall beside the tv and then snapping back the way you do during a boring class or presentation or something. You know when your eyes are open, but you feel like you're asleep and then you "wake up" and have that embarrassingly large flail of shock and make a noise like "AHH!" so that everyone within a 5 mile radius knows you were nodding off?
Wow, is THAT what the movie's title means?

Posted by: myysharona (formerly Sharon) at September 21, 2009 7:02 PM

It's been a really long time since I saw this movie... and I'd be SO way out
of my league if I even tried to weigh in the way that Drew M and Recondite
(and several other Pajiba-ians) can with the high-brow deconstruction-y
stuff [meant with warmth by the way].

Skitz isn't really that far off on his comedic take on the Orgy house / scene
proceedings though. You see, many of you haven't been to the occasional
L.A. / alternative / undergound / performance artsy / WTF-am-I, parties.
I'm just sayin. There's bizarre goings-on all over the place.

Posted by: Ms MoMo at September 21, 2009 7:03 PM

Drew, do you not think Kubrick wanted that ambiguity - that it was the essence of the film? I felt like I wasn't meant to really figure out what was real and what was dream, but rather be left to wonder (and wander) through the feelings.

Posted by: Cindy at September 21, 2009 7:57 PM

I love the film. I love how up in the air everything is. I'm basically a sucker for films that you can talk about and pore over endlessly (Mulholland Drive was my favorite film, bar none, for a long time). It's just such an interesting movie.

Of course, last time I watched it, it was spread out over months in various chunks on Netflix Instant Queue. Maybe that made it easier to digest.

Posted by: whatBENwatches at September 21, 2009 8:03 PM

I think Kubrick was a genius, and I was so sad that this hot mess was his last movie.I tried....I really really ,tried to watch this movie and like it, but Kidman & Cruise were predictably awful and the plot (there was a plot?) was entirely missing.Your review is interesting, but after seeing this movie twice I gave up.Perhaps you've seen it too many times and are reading way too much into it.I do admit that the visuals were classic Kubrick, but they aren't enough to salvage this dreadful, boring waste of film.

Posted by: brite at September 21, 2009 8:31 PM

There is an entire apparatus of psychological theories underpinning the plot of the film. Being an emphasis on psychology (mind), don't expect much to "happen", tangibly speaking. The film is an abstract meditation more than anything. Additionally, it might supplement the understanding of the movie to research/study early-20th century psychological theories to plumb the depths of what is going on beneath the surface of the celluloid.

Would it be too much to say Stanley was looking for a sophisticated audience to bring something to the film instead of showing up and expecting him to bring it all to you?

Posted by: Recondite at September 21, 2009 8:57 PM

I adore you Skitz.

The orgy may be preposterous, but I hope they had a Dick Check next to the Coat Check. Nothing crashes a classy party faster than a Spotted Dick. And I ain't talkin' British cuisine.

Posted by: Cat at September 21, 2009 9:13 PM

Although it could be infered from the review, you never just came out and said it so I will, Eyes Wide Shot is fucking boring as hell.

Posted by: EricD at September 21, 2009 9:15 PM

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Posted by: anna at September 21, 2009 10:10 PM

fucking for them, in the end triumphs all, fantasies, assimialtion, tom's character being stereotypical threatened male when it all came down to it;nicole's character being innate wisdom Woman is more honest and brutal because she really transforms and grasps the situation initially, also realizing that husband is perhaps a little out of his comfortable male dominated element now that she has risen to the level of the new shit and needs a little coaxing to get the proper perspective, and her transformation is so zen right she is able to impart a little lesson bout knowing your role, bringing him along;but also knows what is important and "they" will survive because in the end all our intellectualized concepts, all of it,just dont mean so much compared to the real shit

Posted by: furtherbeyond at September 21, 2009 11:16 PM

I feel like a such a moron because I just don't get this movie. And yeah, it was boring as fuck.

Posted by: ceejeemcbeegee at September 22, 2009 1:23 AM

Cindy,

I don't think Kubrick is against ambiguity and I certainly don't mind it to a degree (look at 2001 for instance). Yet, for Kubrick, who despite genre always focused intensely on film form, it seems sloppy at times (as I noted above). Even if we're to cast aside issues of dream or reality and whatever formal issues I found there, "Eyes" still seems odd in contrast with his other films. The framing, while symmetrical (like most of his works), is surprisingly tight when it comes to head room.

I think some people like to write off the film's missteps as serving Kubrick's ambiguity. I can go with that to a point, but I also feel like he had a lot of work to do on this film before it would have met his ideal. Of course, we'll never be able to know. "Eyes" is far from an uninteresting or unwatchable film but when it comes to the Freudian cocktail of dreams, sexuality, and ambiguity, I'd much rather go watch David Lynch's "Mulholland Dr."

Posted by: Drew Morton at September 22, 2009 12:55 PM

When I first saw this movie upon its release, I found it pointless and boring as others have stated. But shortly thereafter, I got married and remained so to this day. I watched this film again about a year ago, and suddenly it made a whole helluvalot more sense.

Perhaps the viewer needs a bit of experience doing the marriage thing to really understand and appreciate it. A good portion of this film is about commitment and temptation, something everyone deals with in a honest, lasting marriage.

And to me, Eyes Wide Shut makes more sense that 2001 which I find frustrating from a story aspect.

Posted by: B-Unit at September 22, 2009 1:51 PM

B-Unit,

I'm not sure if the viewer needs to be married to understand commitment and temptation, as any long term relationship deals with those qualities as well. For the record, I'm married and I think less of this film now than I did when I was single.

Posted by: Drew Morton at September 22, 2009 1:57 PM

Drew,

All of that recent love you showed for Tarantino may have thrown off your objectivity for a filmmaker like Kubrick who has 100x the ability QT displays.

But that aside, I think marriage (and perhaps even having children) is still a key to the film. Not THE key, but it's of major relevance to it. Cheating in a relationship whether long-term of not doesn't have the stigma attached to it as it does in marriage. That scarlet letter still burns for many people.

Yes, anyone having ever been in a romance from grade school on up knows of jealousy, temptation, commitment, etc. But I think the older one gets, the more understanding of those complexities cloud the mind. Kubrick was nearly 70 when he made this film, and I believe a lifetime of those experiences and thoughts weighed on this film.

Posted by: B-Unit at September 22, 2009 2:26 PM

B,

You might want to re-read those "KB" and "DP" reviews. ;)

Posted by: Drew Morton at September 22, 2009 2:46 PM

Thanks, Drew, but no thanks.

Posted by: B-Unit at September 22, 2009 3:01 PM





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