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American Psycho / Ranylt Richildis

Pajiba Blockbusters | February 28, 2008 | Comments (138)


Our Underappreciated Gems series is humming along nicely, but the staff craves more opportunities to write about the better-known older films, too — and we’re sure commentators would love more opportunities to rant, rave and tussle over them, by turn. Because our Classics Weeks are so spread out, we thought we’d give ourselves that opportunity by launching a new series Dustin likes to call “Pajiba Blockbusters”: films that are anything but neglected, but which have a special appeal for our particular audience. I chose American Psycho as our inaugural entry by honest accident; I’d just rented the movie because I wanted to re-watch it after reading the book last month. It seemed to fit the bill. In fact, when I suggested American Psycho to the boss man in response to his query, Dustin said he couldn’t imagine a better film to kick off this series, and I think I understand why: It’s well-known but controversial, it’s dark as hell, it reserves no cows for the sacred grazing ground, it’s scathingly satiric, and it offers site-mascot Christian Bale in raw, shirtless form (if you could reduce these elements to a single visual, you’d have the design for a new Pajiba Tee).

American Psycho, like the 1991 Bret Easton Ellis novel that informs it, is based on the premise that consumer culture (the late-’80s urban American variety) has so compromised our humanity that our least offensive characteristic is our apathy. At our worst, we’re greedy, vain, covetous and incurious little ids, and the shinier the surface, the scarier the marrow it conceals. The movie’s thesis is simple: He who lives for the exterior has no interior. A lot of ink has been spilled about American Psycho’s attack on Reagan-era values and mindless consumer trends, but that ink describes only the picture’s foreground; the foul effects of luxury have always been one of the most common targets of satire (along with hypocrisy), and neither Reagan nor the 1980s can claim a patent on the behavior or its critique. Look back to Juvenal and Horace, then skip ahead to Alexander Pope and every other Augustan poet, and American Psycho’s ancient pedigree, once exposed, gives the film or novel even more breadth than it seems to present at first glance. Despite its place in a long tradition, Ellis’s book is one of those works which, once written, filled an absence in the canon that was waiting to be filled; it picks up similar messages by Pope, Austen and Waugh and throttles all the politeness out of them by replacing the silver fork with the Ginsu knife and duct tape, and by presenting a world where wet bodies stuffed into sports bags or blood-stained sheets can’t raise eyebrows in a public defined by material rather than human value. It’s not a new premise by any means, but Ellis and Mary Harron (who directed the film version in 2000) take a great old saw and run it into soft bodies until they burst in the kind of gore-shower Ellis believed was needed to shock us out of our daze at the tail-end of the last century.

American Psycho the novel caused controversy even before it was published, and the same difficulty plagued the film production, which went through several slated directors (Stuart Gordon, David Cronenberg, Oliver Stone) and leads (Johnny Depp, Billy Crudup, Leonardo DiCaprio) before Harron and Bale secured deals; at the time, neither was Hollywood A-list, and they had to fight for their jobs when studio suits tried to A-list the project. The musical-chairs name game that surrounded the production fueled the controversy already belching flames out of the political trenches over the novel’s gruesome content; critics who believed that the representation of crimes in art always equals the endorsement of those crimes were vocal in their condemnation of American Psycho for its surface misogyny. The film version tames the book’s sadism and focuses its energies on depicting the hero’s world of Kiehl’s lotions and nouvelle cuisine and prestigious Wall Street sinecures.

Bale is irreplaceable as Patrick Bateman, a perfectly cut and dressed twenty-something born into wealth and keen on making sure everyone knows it (sidebar: how many Dexter fans caught the American Psycho reference in Season One? Bragging rights to the first commentator who posts the connection). The film’s production design is as perfect as Bateman’s $500 haircut: the sleek apartments full of modern art and designer furniture but devoid of hominess; the collections of expensive cosmetics owned by a character who predates the term “metrosexual” but embodies it completely; the restaurants and clubs that subsist on buzz — going nova the day they open, then dying two months later, poisoned by their own trendiness. Bateman and his entourage compete for uniqueness in a market that thrives on reproduction — they one-up each other with hard-to-get reservations at trendy spots, buy the same designer labels, wear the same Oliver Peoples faux tortoise-shell glasses, and find whatever spark of individual flight they can in drifts of cocaine. Their exteriors are so formed by the same brands of luxury products that the characters constantly misidentify one another; aspect lives in hair, suit and shoes, not in face or personality (this running gag enables Bateman to conceal the murder of a rival who, like Bateman himself, has a hundred clones lounging around New York City and London).

This competition for the best suit, the most expensive apartment, and the hottest reservation is where the film’s black humor gestates; Bateman has literal panic attacks when someone one-ups him with better style or a larger price-tag. The best scene in the whole movie boils this anxiety down to its essence: Bateman and co-workers draw business cards from silver holsters and compare paper quality, color tone and typeset. He who can boast the most understatement wins; it’s an exquisite paradox exquisitely rendered, and Bale’s nervous sweat is the seepage of an ego burst to juices. Out of his envy springs epic self-loathing that finds an outlet in the slaughter of vagrants, prostitutes and rivals. Bateman’s psychosis is brought on by the confines of material conformity, and his killings are violent bouts of self-expression; he defines his humanity in hedonism and accepts that “there is no real me” under the illusion — and his grasping at identity is made even more slippery by the fact that we’re never sure if the murders actually take place, or if they simply dance around inside the hero’s own mind. Bateman believes they do, and his belief is persuasive; he even announces a parallel between his consumer consumption of designer products and his cannibalistic consumption of women’s bodies. Between the moments of homicidal bombast that disturbed so many critics are dozens of hilarious comments on conformity, product branding, excess, and what passes for Thought in a culture distracted by designer goods. Bateman’s critique of modern mainstream music, for example, isn’t a subtle satirical device, but it’s hard not to laugh when he praises Phil Collins’ solo career over the works of the “too arty and intellectual” Genesis, and extols Huey Lewis and the News as “the greatest American artists of our time”. His sober embracing of Belinda Carlyle or KC and the Sunshine Band over punk, jazz or even Genesis is an easy way to sketch Bateman’s enslavement to trends and advertising.

I’ve flapped my gums a lot about the film’s themes and gleaming surface, because I think they’re the best things about American Psycho, which is, for me at least, an imperfect but enjoyable film held together by a great satirical tenor, and by spot-on art direction that faithfully recreates a certain New York lifestyle circa 1988. Like I Shot Andy Warhol (Harron’s earlier go at provocative material), its execution seems overwhelmed by challenging subject matter, and something doesn’t quite gel. But if I’m suggesting that Harron’s direction isn’t as firm as I’d like it to be, I’m talking only by a matter of degrees; though it’s far from a personal favorite, American Psycho tilts close enough to Hot Diggety-Dog that it’s almost not worth addressing its flaws. Harron isn’t an actors’ director — many of the performances seem inorganic both in themselves and in their collusion with other actors, and I don’t accept the argument that the jerky interaction between characters is meant to reflect their emptiness; Samantha Mathis as Courtney, for instance, manages to layer her vapid and Xanaxed heiress with incredible richness, and Bale builds one of the most substantial “shallow” characters ever put to screen. The rest of the cast, for the most part, bump against one another like hesitant clumsy lovers, and the same clumsiness hampers the editing and camerawork; a few scenes look like they were interrupted mid-dialogue, as if Harron kept changing her mind about their purpose (it’s a filmmaking reality, but it’s usually handled a little more smoothly in productions of this scope). And Harron’s desire to transplant some of Bateman’s monologues from the novel into the film results in a weird pastiche — I’m not comparing novel to film but rather critiquing the filmmakers’ choices about how to transition from one medium to another; Bale extolling the cultural value of Sussudio as he preps his whores for sex and slaughter feels a little square-peg-in-round-hole forced. Trying to reproduce certain kinds of narrative onscreen is a thankless task, and Harron does what she can; these monologues are crucial joints in the satire’s backbone, but they’ve been strained into an unnatural posture. It’s as if the director’s anxiety about the controversy over her subject matter resulted in over-rehearsal and a lot of second-guessing of her own abilities.

Still, the subject matter rises above these minor technical issues (which won’t even bother some viewers, and might even add substance to the experience). And it’s a great film for people-watching with its mix of wannabe edgy types and wholesome studio stars: in addition to Bale and Mathis, Willem Dafoe, Justin Theroux, Jared Leto, Reese Witherspoon and Chloe Sevigny parade around onscreen (and Guinevere Turner, who co-wrote the script with Harron, emits fantastic Who’s That Girl? charisma in her brief scene as Elizabeth. Read: I have a new girl-crush). However jumbled the cast and structure, though, American Psycho is a necessary satire; it portrays the new libertine in a comedy of manners that, per tradition, reproduces “correct” social behaviors and values only to expose how completely undermined these values are by private, secretive behaviors. Regarding the film’s place in that tradition, Harron gets everything right.

Ranylt Richildis lives in Ottawa, Canada. She can usually be found sneezing in college libraries or dropping chalk in lecture halls, but she’s somehow managed to squeeze in a film or two a day for the last decade.


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Comments

Little known fact: there's an American Psycho 2, starring the lovely Mila Kunis as an amoral clit would do anything to get ahead. It's strangely....watchable.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at February 28, 2008 2:34 PM

this is one of my absolute favorite movies. satire this biting and perfect should always be revisited.

Posted by: maggie at February 28, 2008 2:43 PM

You can't write a review of such an amazing movie without posting the best scene...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=O-hUkO13Fy8

Posted by: Daisy at February 28, 2008 2:43 PM

I bought the Special Edition of this movie at Best Buy for $3.99 last weekend. Sweet, sweet find.

Posted by: Mattfactor at February 28, 2008 2:45 PM

Excellent review. I just saw this for the first time a couple weeks ago and loved it- so glad you decided to write about it. You do it justice.

Posted by: Bettytron at February 28, 2008 2:49 PM

Bragging rights to the first commentator who posts the connection

Didn't Dexter use the name Patrick Bateman as an alias when he ordered the stuff he injects into his victim's necks?

Also, I want to note that watching American Psycho and Newsies back to back is a fun filled if slightly disturbing evening.

Pajiba annoints Sonia for correctly pinning the allusion on the donkey. --RR

Posted by: Sonia at February 28, 2008 2:50 PM

I haven't read the book so maybe those who have can shed light on the matter. So here it goes:

Did he really kill anybody? 'Cause in my vague memory (haven't seen it in years) when he goes back, it seems as if they either covered up for him or they thought he was having an nervous episode or something?
Is my confusion because of the way it was directed (or the fact that I may be an idiot), or, is it like that in the book?

You answered your own question, Slim, in a way. The book and film can both equally be read as "it was all in his mind" and "people are so braindead they don't notice or care". Take your pick. --RR

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at February 28, 2008 2:51 PM

Yay for this review! I need to watch this movie again.

I've also seen American Psycho 2, and 'strangely watchable' is a good way to describe it.

Posted by: katy at February 28, 2008 2:54 PM

I really think Bateman's dialogue about pop music to different people, the whole awkwardness of it, really adds to his character. He's such a non-person, I think that's how he thinks people interact in a non-work setting, even when he's slaughtering people.

Posted by: Rob at February 28, 2008 2:55 PM

"Christy, get down on your knees so Sabrina can see your asshole. Phil Collins' solo career seems to be more commercial and therefore more satisfying, in a narrower way. Especially songs like In the Air Tonight and Against All Odds. Sabrina, don't just stare at it, eat it. But I also think Phil Collins works best within the confines of the group, than as a solo artist, and I stress the word artist. This is Sussudio, a great, great song, a personal favorite. "

One of the best monologues in history (the whole thing is too long to post, that's just my favorite part.)

As usual, RR, a great review.

Posted by: TK at February 28, 2008 2:55 PM

Sonia, you got it! I loved that.

Posted by: Kt at February 28, 2008 2:56 PM

Seriously, Slim, do you just sit at your computer and hit "refresh" all day?

Posted by: Kolby at February 28, 2008 2:56 PM

Sonia

I have actually had that same movie watching experience of American Psycho and Newsies back to back as well and I share the exact same sentiment.

Posted by: Wanda at February 28, 2008 2:57 PM

Hee! Everytime someone tries to tell me that Phil Collins has talent, I refer them to American Psycho. Case. Closed.

Posted by: PaddyDog at February 28, 2008 2:57 PM

Sonia;

that sounds fantastic. I'm always looking for the best/most warped back-to-back movie themes.

Great, great review.

Posted by: twig at February 28, 2008 2:58 PM

i'm so glad i got to see the naked chainsaw scene on the big screen. this movie is fantastic. i think of it every time i go to an ATM machine. they have it in the $5 bin at wal-mart right now. i snatched it up as birthday gifts for everyone i know. i wasted a viewing of it on some WoW addicted friends, who spent the entire time talking about the armor their cows (or whatever they're called...it's coming to me--tauren. sigh. i hang my head in shame) need. i wanted to smack them for missing the movie and myself for hanging around them.

Posted by: kelley at February 28, 2008 2:59 PM

TK, that is such a great scene. He's just so menacing, the look of hesitation and embarassment on Sabrina's face always get me.

Posted by: Julie at February 28, 2008 3:00 PM

American Psycho is an amazing book for anyone who wants to read it and loves dark books. I got into Ellis when I was craving more Chuck Palahniuk, someone recommended it to me. And that's how a feminist got into reading American Psycho.

Posted by: Kamakaze Feminist at February 28, 2008 3:01 PM

Seriously, Slim, do you just sit at your computer and hit "refresh" all day?

Posted by: Kolby at February 28, 2008 2:56 PM

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What I do on my sick days while watching American Dad in questionable underwear is my business. MINE!

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at February 28, 2008 3:01 PM

What's that great line said in a loud club or something, not "Mergers and Acquisitions but Murder and ..."?

I actually could not read the book, I felt too sickened by it but I liked the movie and might have been appropriately older by that time. I currently have no problems with Jeff Lindsay's third Dexter novel. Oh, to be older and hardened..

I agree with the Mila Kunis American Psycho 2 sentiments. She has a really believable sociopath in her.

Posted by: ScandinavianBlonde at February 28, 2008 3:09 PM

My take, at least from seeing the movie, that it was all in his head. I only saw it once and haven't thought too much about the evidence for or against that interpretation, but it's the one I liked the most.

Never read the book.

Posted by: ajax19 at February 28, 2008 3:11 PM

Murders and executions.
And I also found American Psycho 2 strangely watchable, but I almost felt that if they did away with the American Psycho connection, it would have been better off as a stand-alone film. It barely qualifies as a sequel, except that they threw in Patrick Bateman as a character (barely) in the beginning.
Anyway, I read this book when I was 15 and it used to disturb me so much I would throw it against the wall. I always felt the movie paled in comparison, but Christian Bale is great in it. It's a movie I can watch multiple times and enjoy, but it's not a favourite.

Posted by: Lannie at February 28, 2008 3:23 PM

The Bateman music critiques remind me why I stopped reading Rolling Stone.

Posted by: Al Christensen at February 28, 2008 3:25 PM

The Bateman music critiques remind me why I stopped reading Rolling Stone.

Ain't that the truth, brother.

Posted by: TK at February 28, 2008 3:33 PM

The part where Christian Bale axes Jared Leto in the face is my favorite moment in any movie, ever.

"TRY GETTING A RESERVATION AT DORSIA NOW YOU FUCKING STUPID eyeliner-wearing, hair-straightening emo BASTARD!"

Posted by: Smithy at February 28, 2008 3:36 PM

Murders and executions

Of course, thanks :-) Actually, the fact that he says that that is what he is into might have been what put the whole thing in the reality camp for me if I remember correctly. It's a long time since I saw the movie and I'm not sure I even wondered much about the reality or non-reality.

Posted by: ScandinavianBlonde at February 28, 2008 3:40 PM

I used to work at Kinko's. That business card stuff is no joke.


None.


P.S. Best scene- the flexing in the mirror. God, I loved that scene, it seemed to worship and loathe itself at the same time!

Posted by: that bees chick at February 28, 2008 3:40 PM

I love the part near the end where he's talking to Chloe Sevigne on the phone, trying to confess and keep his secret at the same time. His behavior is so manic and bizarre...I love it.

Posted by: Brie at February 28, 2008 3:44 PM

Slim I was left with the same lingering questions. Thanks RR for clearing that up.

Posted by: cijis at February 28, 2008 3:44 PM

Fantastic review! I haven't seen this in a while; I need to again.

Maybe an American Psycho and Empire of the Sun pairing?

Posted by: llism at February 28, 2008 3:45 PM

Slim, you have "questionable underwear"? That's a question in itself. But one that's best left unanswered, I think.

Posted by: Brie at February 28, 2008 3:46 PM

Haha, or American Psycho followed by Reign of Fire? Imaginary serial murder + dragons (+ alcohol) = a fine evening.

Posted by: Smithy at February 28, 2008 3:49 PM

Smithy, that could be one of the best movie marathons EVER.

Posted by: Julie at February 28, 2008 3:51 PM

The film and book are both fantastic and much like Catch 22 act as companion pieces to each other. I remember when I first heard that the book was going to be adapted for film, that I pondered as to how they would incorporate Bateman's narratives about pop music. In the book they are seemingly incongruous isolated chapters entirely devoted to dissecting a particular group, which served to add to the menace of the rest of the prose. I have always been one to believe that the ending acts to illustrate that he did commit the murders but everyone around him was so self involved that they were totally unaware of the fiend behind the mask, probably best illustrated by the fact that they often confuse him with someone else. Does anyone know if this book was banned in Australia, because when I first purchased it, I had to order it from the US and it came wrapped in plastic with an R rating sticker? However, after the film was released, the book was everywhere albeit with a different cover. So many great scenes and lines... Duct tape. I need it for... taping something.

Posted by: Dexter Morgan at February 28, 2008 3:53 PM

Pajiba originally introduced me to the magnificence that is Christian Bale when I first stumbled upon the site quite some time ago. Since then, I have gone on to view nearly every Christian Bale movie and American Psycho is by far my favorite. Bale is great in just about everything I've seen him in (although I haven't seen Reign of Fire) and because of Pajiba, my adoration of him has acquired somewhat of a stalkerish quality. I made my son watch Newsies last night, we had a blast! (he's only 6 but you can never start too young) Anyway, great review Ranylt, as usual. Now excuse me.....I have to return some videotapes.

Posted by: Pudenda at February 28, 2008 3:56 PM

Ah... Reign of Fire pity my stupid neighbors took out a cease and desist the last time I jumped from my roof wielding an ax in homage...

It's my house dammit!

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at February 28, 2008 3:57 PM

What I do on my sick days while watching American Dad in questionable underwear is my business. MINE!

Why would your underwear be questionable?

On second thought, never mind. I don't want to know.

Wait a second. I like In The Air Tonight (it isn't art, but is it fun to listen to after the sun sets) and have often thought about certain folks just need a little extra murder in them. Is that bad?

Posted by: Vermillion at February 28, 2008 3:57 PM

Slim- maybe it was because of the questionable underwear, and not so much the ax.

Posted by: Kolby at February 28, 2008 3:59 PM

Sorry about the continuous italics in the previous post...Bale-induced excitement causes uncontrolled body quivering which sometimes hinders typing ability.

Posted by: Pudenda at February 28, 2008 3:59 PM

BSlim, your neighbors need to mind their own damn business (and stay off socalled's lawn!). If in this day and age in the great nation of America you can't wield whatever you like on your own property, the terrorists have won!

Posted by: Smithy at February 28, 2008 4:01 PM

So, B-Slim, are you saying I should see Reign of Fire asap? Not quite sure if the ax-weilding is a good or bad thing, but then again, if it's on your property it's none of my concern or business.

Posted by: Pudenda at February 28, 2008 4:04 PM

I love Reign of Fire. I couldn't care less what a piece of crap it is. Aside from the always enjoyable presence of Bale, Le McConoughey gets eaten by a dragon. It is spectacular.

Then again, I also love Deep Blue Sea, which is one of the dumbest movies ever made. I am inordinately fond of any film wherein animals or monsters stalk and eat people.

Posted by: Sarina at February 28, 2008 4:04 PM

I don't know what it says about me, but I didn't find the movie particularly gruesome. I'd heard about the stuff that went on in the book so I guess I was expecting more. Great movie though. Too many great scenes to note, though the part where he axes Jared Leto was beyond awesome. One of the best scenes in any movie ever.

Posted by: vadmspartan at February 28, 2008 4:07 PM

*rummages through ax collection, chomps on cigar*

*you need to watch Reign of Fire asap.

Damned straight it's my property, screw the cease and desist and fuck da' police...

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at February 28, 2008 4:09 PM

Enjoyed this review. Will watch AP again in a new light.

PS: The DK joker clown is scaring me.

Posted by: GinKirk at February 28, 2008 4:10 PM

Then again, I also love Deep Blue Sea, which is one of the dumbest movies ever made.

Sarina! Of course you love that movie, it has uber-smart sharks that eat Samuel L. (motherfucking) Jackson mid hero speech! It. Is. Glorious.

Posted by: Julie at February 28, 2008 4:19 PM

Ah, Reign of Fire. Just watched it recently. Good for screaming "America! Fuck yeah!" and throwing up the horns every time Big McLargeHuge shows up. He chewed the hell out of the scenery on that one.

Dragons were well done though.

Posted by: twig at February 28, 2008 4:19 PM

Now see, I loved Reign of Fire, and I thought it was an excellent movie. It wasn't meant to be high art, and it didn't try to be, but neither was it action-cheese schlock a la Sylvester Stallone. The story was great, the actors all did a fine job, and the special effects were stellar. So, for an action/fantasy movie, I thought it was the bee's knees. I totally do not get why it got such a bad rap.

Posted by: llism at February 28, 2008 4:21 PM

I will say this once more for those of you in the back. I will break it down word by word, so you understand how serious I am. Are you ready? Are you sure? OK, here goes:

Reign.

Of.

Fire.

Sucked.

Posted by: TK at February 28, 2008 4:24 PM

Does this movie really qualify as a "blockbuster", however good it might be? Sure, it's well-known to Pajibans (who universally worship Bale), but I don't think it did all that much at the box-office.

Posted by: Todd at February 28, 2008 4:25 PM

Sarina! Of course you love that movie, it has uber-smart sharks that eat Samuel L. (motherfucking) Jackson mid hero speech! It. Is. Glorious.

Omigawd...I completely forgot about that. I must get this movie and rewatch it...that may have been the greatest moment in cinema.

As for AP...I liked towards the end when he's carrying on a reasonable conversation with Chloe (can't remember her character's name) while holding an air hammer at the back of her head. That's creepy, there.

I too, found American Psycho II strangely compelling....

Posted by: Shadows of Dakaron at February 28, 2008 4:26 PM

Pudenda,
From what I've gathered from some of his past posts, I'm afraid B-Slim does not recognize any human who hasn't watched and/or liked 'Reign of Fire'.
If you want any respect or acknowledgement from this most prolific and profound Pajiban, I believe Netflixing this movie should be made one of your top priorities.

Posted by: TMax at February 28, 2008 4:29 PM

TK, why do you refuse the greatness that is Reign of Fire? Did a dragon stomp on your puppy when you were little? Did an american riding a tank accidentally bulldoze your house? I don't understand your animosity. Come, let us partake of spirits and watch again.

Talk to me...

Posted by: Shadows of Dakaron at February 28, 2008 4:30 PM

BSlim - an axe collection, eh?
do they have classes on that so you can distinguish between good and bad, like wine and cheeses?

cause that might be interesting.....

Posted by: Bethy at February 28, 2008 4:30 PM

Sarina! Of course you love that movie, it has uber-smart sharks that eat Samuel L. (motherfucking) Jackson mid hero speech! It. Is. Glorious.

Posted by: Julie at February 28, 2008 4:19 PM

You don't gotta tell me. It is in all seriousness one of my favourite movies, even though it is seething in the stench of its own crap. Michael Rapaport's leg gets bitten off and the foot twitches as it floats away. It is the pinnacle of awesomely bad.

Actually, a lot of my favourite movies (favourite in the sense that I watch them over and over and never tire of them) are pretty horrid. It's because Cheesy + Entertaining = Classic.

Posted by: Sarina at February 28, 2008 4:31 PM

I saw Reign of Fire in the theatre. It really did suck. I watch it now out of utter boredom or to get a quick Bale/Gerard fix. The one thing that movie has going for it is hot male flesh, sometimes literally.

Posted by: Kolby at February 28, 2008 4:35 PM

In fairness to Phil Collins, did anyone ever hear the This American Life episode where a contributor wanted to write a really sad and bitter break-up song so she called up Phil Collins to get advice from him because she felt that Against All Odds was the best break-up song ever? I have to say, he was a real sport about it and it made my Collins-hating heart melt just a little bit.

Posted by: PaddyDog at February 28, 2008 4:35 PM

My husband and I love, love, love this movie. If it's ever on a movie channel we will watch it, and he despises gory movies and tv shows. I read the book when it came out and thought it was brilliant because it was so "true" to the era.

At a Christmas party this year, we met the brother of a friend of ours and he was so eerily Patrick Bateman it was kinda freaking us out. The voice, the looks, his salesman's patter, his horrible, yet considered, taste in music, it was all there. We spent the whole night wondering if he had ever seen the movie, but were afraid to ask. It just made us want to watch American Psycho all over again.

Posted by: scoxsmith at February 28, 2008 4:36 PM

You know, Ranylt, I just re-read your paragraph about the monologues and I have to say I disagree. I always felt like the whole movie was a little disjointed - deliberately so, which I guess is why I never felt like the monologues were out of place. The film is so bizarre that in a way, it lacks any sort of cohesive rhythm... which actually works in it's favor.

I dunno, maybe I'm not remembering it accurately, but I sometimes feel like the movie, even taken as a whole, was more a series of sketches about the moments in the life of a psychopath, than a steady narrative. And that's why the monologues seemed so perfect to me - they're almost greek-chorus-like.

Posted by: TK at February 28, 2008 4:38 PM

"the shinier the surface, the scarier the marrow it conceals."

This.
Once my joyous paroxysms have faded, I will read the rest of the review. But for now, all I can say is thank you. AND, I had another fit when I saw mention of my favourite fictional serial killer on Dexter. Little nods like that make my day.

Posted by: Lola at February 28, 2008 4:39 PM

I dunno...Phil Collins also did that song about not rocking the boat, or whatever. I hate that song. It makes me bleed in my earholes.

Posted by: Sarina at February 28, 2008 4:39 PM

The part where Christian Bale axes Jared Leto in the face is my favorite moment in any movie, ever.

I know what you mean. Whenever I see a photo of Jared (motherfucking) Leto, or read about another of his douchebag antics, I think of his demise in American Psycho and it makes me feel a little better.

Re: Deep Blue Sea, I remember the shark/Sam Jackson scene was cited in some list somewhere of "The Awesomest Scenes in the Shittiest Movies," or some such. Or, as my husband once lolcatted, "They had Samuel L. Jackson, but they eated him."

Posted by: Jerce at February 28, 2008 4:40 PM

The one thing that movie has going for it is hot male flesh, sometimes literally.

So I wasn't the only one shouting for McConaughey to rip his shirt off in the fight scene? And then cheering when he did? And then shouting for him to rip off Bale's shirt?

*crickets chirp*

Ok, I'll... um... I'll just find my own way out.

Posted by: twig at February 28, 2008 4:40 PM

Or, as my husband once lolcatted, "They had Samuel L. Jackson, but they eated him."

Ha ha ha! Your husband sounds AWESOME.

I have to admit I could barely get through Reign of Fire, but in the right (drunken) context and with enough (drunken) friends, rewatching it would be pretty badass.

Did a dragon stomp on your puppy when you were little?

Hee! Shadows, you rock.

Posted by: Julie at February 28, 2008 4:46 PM

re: warped movie combos

Try watching Labyrinth and Requiem for a Dream within the same _year_ as each other. Anytime I think about Jennifer Connelly it breaks my brain now.

Posted by: tph at February 28, 2008 4:46 PM

After BSlim's last comment, I had a mental flash of him as a Tolkeinesque dwarf chomping on a cigar and playing with his axe collection. It really made my day.

Posted by: lateformyfuneral at February 28, 2008 4:49 PM

Ah, Reign of Fire. Just watched it recently. Good for screaming "America! Fuck yeah!" and throwing up the horns every time Big McLargeHuge shows up. He chewed the hell out of the scenery on that one.

Dragons were well done though.

Posted by: twig at February 28, 2008 4:19 PM

I did not think Longhorns actually admitted to having He-who-does-not-use-deodorant as a person who attended for only 3 years. Plus, he did get arrested for being high and playing the bongos naked in his home.

Let's all come to an agreement everyone. McConaughey will never win an Oscar as his best attributes generally involve him being shirtless. But he does have a pretty smile when not wearing god-awful burnt orange.

TK, just how badly do you hate Reign of Fire?

Slim, will you be touring with your axe show?

Posted by: Melody at February 28, 2008 4:50 PM

Caught the movie before I read the book, which forced me to go back to see the movie again.

And looking back, Christian Bale nails Patrick Bateman. I can't imagine Depp or DiCaprio bringing the fervor to the character that he required.

Which is an odd thing to say. Bateman is someone who is entirely alive only within the confines of his murders. Even the yuppie games (best business cards, going to trendy restaurants) are challenges which are met with half-boredom/half-dread by Bateman.

BTW, watch this movie then watch the HBO documentary on the Trust Fund Kids. Combined they gave me a sense of sorrow -- for people who have everything and yet have nothing.

Posted by: BFFredo at February 28, 2008 4:53 PM

Oooh....can you juggle them, Mr. BSlim? As you're flying through the air? Blowing smoke rings? I'd pay good money for that.

Posted by: Shadows of Dakaron at February 28, 2008 4:54 PM

Plus, he did get arrested for being high and playing the bongos naked in his home.

It's one of the better mug shots, just barely beaten out by Robert Downey Jr., imo.

*apologies for filling the awesome movie review comments with fap about McMuscles*

Posted by: twig at February 28, 2008 4:57 PM

I'm presently negotiating a deal with a *cough* ...Costa Rican, production company, hopefully we'll be touring Peru and some venues in southern Paraguay before closing in Tijuana. It's gonna. be. huge.

I'll keep you guys posted.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at February 28, 2008 4:59 PM

I will totally come to see it, except maybe not in Tijuana.

Posted by: Melody at February 28, 2008 5:06 PM

Fun comment diversion: incredibly satisfying scenes in otherwise shitty movies (or movies that aren't as stellar as the scene). How about Wilford Brimley getting the shit kicked out of him in "The Firm" by TC? "You sick, sadistic bastard..."

Posted by: samantha t at February 28, 2008 5:06 PM

Oh Samantha, hell yes, I love that comment diversion suggestion.

Posted by: scoxsmith at February 28, 2008 5:28 PM

Slim, does Ye Olde Axe Show involve you doing splits across the entire dancefloor? Because that? I would pay money to see.

Posted by: Kolby at February 28, 2008 5:39 PM

I was telling a friend of mine about this movie just a few weeks ago. I had never seen it until I bought the DVD for $5 at Best Buy, but now it is one of my favorite movies.

Deep Blue Sea is some very delightful cheesy goodness. Watching a shark go all chomp-bechewy-chomp on Samuel L. "Motherfucking" Jackson makes it a winner.

I also have to say that I like the cheese that is Reign of Fire. Tanks vs Dragons, fuck-yeah!

Posted by: CptCrckpot AKA Caesar Hardwood at February 28, 2008 5:39 PM

Ha ha ha! Your husband sounds AWESOME.

Heh. He is. He is awesome.

And he's mine. So nobody better get any ideas. Any woman makes eyes at him, she's gonna lose 'em both.

Posted by: Jerce at February 28, 2008 5:42 PM

A surprisingly unaffected and unpretentious review from RR. Good for her. Well done.

Posted by: Chewie at February 28, 2008 5:48 PM

B-Slim: "Amoral Clit" would be a great name for a band.

Posted by: biscuits at February 28, 2008 5:51 PM

"Amoral Clit" would be a great name for a band.

Posted by: biscuits at February 28, 2008 5:51 PM
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Yes and it is AND it belongs TO ME along with all international and subsidiary rights!

Are we gonna have a problem?

*slams sawed-off shotgun on top of bar*

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at February 28, 2008 6:00 PM

BSlim, you're so subtle and timid. You should really work on speaking up and making your demands and opinions known, or people will just railroad right over you.

Posted by: Sarina at February 28, 2008 6:10 PM

A little BALE is good in any form- Western BALE, Batman BALE, POW Camp BALE, Newsies BALE, Crazy BALE- it's all very nice. Shirtless BALE is extra special nice.

The only part of Psycho I fu$king HATE???? The cat in the ATM. Do.Not.Want.

Posted by: Be Adequite! at February 28, 2008 6:30 PM

Ranylt:

Great review, and thanks for reminding me to go put on some of my old Stranglers records.

Posted by: kushiro at February 28, 2008 6:36 PM

I'm actually a PhD biology student, not a psych student.
And considering I bring up a good point, isn't it a bit curious that you retort by calling me a philistine?
Aren't the writers for this site the least bit concerned they're conforming to exactly what they say they hate conforming to?

Posted by: Wex at February 28, 2008 6:41 PM

I'm a wuss, I have no tolerance for violence, so I'll never watch this movie.

Moving on.

From what I'm hearing, it seems as if this bears a strong resemblance to the book COMPLICITY by Iain Banks, which I think came out not too long after A.P. did. I had to read the Banks for a class some years ago--that's the only reason I finished it, I was forced to.

It'd probably be tame by all of your standards, but I just can't handle reading all the gory details of murder, after murder, after murder. Ugh, he was so...creative, that was poetic justice rum amok, I'll tell you. Anyway, I was told after reading it, that that particular book was meant to be an indictment on Margaret Thatcher's looooooong government. I think it was meant to focus on a lot of the same issues, minus the yuppiedom, and with lots of Freudian and Lacanian psychoanalysis...sigh.

Has anyone read it? Thoughts? Questions? Perturbations?

Posted by: Jo 'Mama' Besser at February 28, 2008 6:49 PM

"...Aren't the writers for this site the least bit concerned they're conforming to exactly what they say they hate conforming to?..."

Posted by: Wex at February 28, 2008 6:41 PM
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I don't think I'm understanding you Big W, when you say writers, who are you referring to? The regular posters or the reviewers?
I'll give you my opinion on that whole reviewer ass-kissing deal: that sort of asshattery has gone way down. However that doesn't mean that people are banned for giving a fucking a compliment to the reviewer.
As for the herd mentality *shrugs* really? Personally I disagree with the reviewers on a daily basis. I'll give the place kudos for letting you speak your mind.

*as long as you can back it up, not doing so makes you look like: a tool, and that's ALLLL you baybee not Pajiba*

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at February 28, 2008 7:02 PM

Oh and, W?


Around here, if you CAN'T do a split, across the WHOLE floor, your PhD is worth exactly, JACK. SHIT.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at February 28, 2008 7:10 PM

Wex:

I'm curious. You ask some questions about the motivations of posters on this site during another thread. You get no traction immediately so you actually intentionally re-post the same question. When you get an answer, you (presumably) don't like it, but instead of moving on, you re-phrase the question in yet another thread. So my question to you is: WHAT DO YOU FUCKING WANT? Is it attention? Profanity? (coz you really didn't have to go down the irritating multiple posting of the same dull question if all you wanted was profanity). Should we all just be sheep and agree with you that we're sheep? Will that make you stop? Coz, here's the thing: I'm having a bad week and I usually turn to Pajiba for some relief from the corporate assholes when I have a bad week and yet here today I find the blogosphere equivalent of the guy in the meeting who won't let go of the small immaterial issue on slide #10 so that we can get on with the real issue. I have no problem with someone taking the contrary position (see the thread where you started this), but enough is enough. Next slide please!

Posted by: PaddyDog at February 28, 2008 7:50 PM

Maybe he wants to buy an argument. Unfortunately, this room is for abuse.

Posted by: twig at February 28, 2008 7:55 PM

By writers, I mean the reviewers themselves.
It's also good to know the people who respond to my comments like to argue, just like myself.
It's unfortunate that you mock education, though.
Well, that you mock my education anyway, since I'm probably doing considerably more important things than you are right now, barbadowhatever.
I was actually just hoping the reviewers noticed this post so they might not get too ahead of themselves, and to avoid them patting themselves on the back. I really do like the reviews, and I find it a shame when those that I admire turn out to be jackasses. Of course, I'm not saying the reviewers are jackasses, but it would be entirely unfortunate to find out that they were.

Posted by: Wex at February 28, 2008 8:04 PM

I also enjoy that some people take these threads as seriously as they do.
You realize it just gets me more riled up when you lash back at me for all the things I write.
In fact, I totally get off on it.
I'm jerking. Right now.
Mmmmmmm god, that felt good.
Fuck.

Posted by: Wex at February 28, 2008 8:07 PM

I'm actually a PhD biology student...

How nice for you.

And considering I bring up a good point... Only, see, you don't.

You claim to be in a PhD program? Then perhaps you are familiar with the concept of citing your sources. A PhD in the sciences, no less? Then perhaps you have heard of something people call evidence?

Cite it, motherfucker. Read this thread and pull examples of the kind of behavior you keep on posting remarks about. From this thread; this is the thread you chose to troll in, so it has to be this thread.

We'll wait.

Posted by: Elron Hubble at February 28, 2008 8:10 PM

"Mmmmmmm god, that felt good..."


Nowhere near as good as we are W, nowhere, near. :)

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at February 28, 2008 8:23 PM

Just ignore it and it will get bored and go away.

Posted by: Sarina at February 28, 2008 8:32 PM

Oh, and here's a tip for your next response sometime around.... 3 AM..ish? When you're done curing cancer, right, Marcus Welby MD? (or when you man up, troll)

You can contact via email the, "writers for this site" and give them any suggestions.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at February 28, 2008 8:35 PM

Fantastic review, and I love the idea of a Pajiba Blockbuster series. Having said that, this thread has officially gone down the crapper.

Posted by: Rob at February 28, 2008 8:40 PM

I like how the last comment sums up what I was trying to say.
Bravo, Rob. Bravo. *standing ovation*
Now then, as you can see, I won't go away, even if you ignore me.
I like it here.
In fact, I might just invade every single thread from now on for a few posts a day.
I'll spread my bad karma like herpes, uncurable and totally irritating.
But you can't avoid it. All you can do is pick away. And pick some more.
Mmmmmm, it's turning me on again.
*touches himself*

Posted by: Wex at February 28, 2008 8:49 PM

Sooooooo are you saying that as the website's motto is bitchy, all we are allowed to do is complain? I think you filled todays quota Wex. Thanks

Posted by: Draya at February 28, 2008 9:01 PM

NO
The quota's not filled.
It's only begun.
I'll be here every day from now on.
You'll grow to love me. I know you will.

Posted by: Wex at February 28, 2008 9:07 PM

BarbadoSlim~ What I do on my sick days while watching American Dad in questionable underwear is my business. MINE!

Ewwwwwww... Can't we just go back to talking about taco dip? Please?

Posted by: KatyBelle at February 28, 2008 9:08 PM

You know, back when I got my lowly B.S. degree, I had to contemplate where to point my life. Should I stay in school, get a Master's, consider attempting to earn the title of Dr. Wednesday? Or should I just learn to do a split across the ENTIRE DANCE FLOOR?

I think we all know how it turned out.

Posted by: Wednesday at February 28, 2008 9:13 PM

To Ranylt and not really the other commenters on here (but not because I don't like you or anything):
Okay,I'm obviously late on this and I'm NOT reading all the comments above me to see if someone already addressed this, but:
"Samantha Mathis as Evelyn..."
Reese Witherspoon played Evelyn, so I'm a little confused here. Mathis was playing COURTNEY.
Otherwise, Ranylt, you're my favorite reviewer on this site. Your reviews are thorough and spot-on. =)

You are so right--thanks for the keen eye! Fixed. And blushing more over the compliment than over my lame-ass gaff. --RR

Posted by: Kim at February 28, 2008 9:34 PM

Has anyone read it? Thoughts? Questions? Perturbations?

Posted by: Jo 'Mama' Besser at February 28, 2008 6:49 PM

I haven't read the book that you are referring to but I also got a similar feeling of familiarity when I read The Wasp Factory, also by Iain Banks. That is one messed up book with a plot twist that will make you gag. But I loved every page.

Posted by: Dexter Morgan at February 28, 2008 9:39 PM

A note on Phil Collins: I hate him as much as the next self-respecting man, but after watching this video I gained a certain...respect for the man. Also, gorillas.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=CbLr2NEV_7o

Posted by: the_Wakeful at February 28, 2008 9:46 PM

Well golly, I was going to post way back in the weird Bale movie matchings conversation, but I had shit to take care of. So I come back and the thread has taken a seriously grouchy turn. I can't say I fully understand what this dude's chief complaint is because all threads on Pajiba eventually dissolve into some off-topic nonsense revolving around sex, booze, and boardgames.

At least the dating site spammers post once or twice and then they go away.

Back to my original reason for posting: Try combining "American Psycho" with "Little Women"; go from nekkid chainsaw-wielding Bale to genteel Bale trying to woo Winona Ryder.

And TK, my undead comrade, I am going to have to side with BSlim on the "Reign of Fire" debate, because honestly RoF is brilliant filmmaking next to that craptastic gun-kata movie. Bale was the only redeeming thing about that turkey.

"Reign of Fire" had dragons, and I have an unholy, nerd-level of love for dragons. Plus, how can you beat wacky BALD MattMc?

Posted by: Alabamapink at February 28, 2008 10:02 PM

Ranylt, je t'aime.

P.S. Random book recommendation for you: A Complicated Kindness by Miriam Toews

Posted by: Kevin Longrie at February 28, 2008 10:02 PM

Meh, hating Phil Collins is the lowest form of hipsterist douchebaggery. In the Air Tonight, alone, should give the dude a free lifetime pass.

Anyone who's seen one of his live shows knows what I is talkin' 'bout. Do yourself a favor and Netflix one of his concerts from 80s or mid 90s, before all his Disney crap, and at the very least, you'll get seeing some VERY good musicians doing their thing out of it.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at February 28, 2008 10:03 PM

This movie is definitely No. 2 on the last afternoon comment diversion. Considering my obsession with Christian Bale, it's really baffling that I haven't seen this movie. Better put it in the queue.

Posted by: Cady at February 28, 2008 10:03 PM

I notice, Wex, that you have posted several more times but are not doing anything to support your whining "argument."

...How far along are you on that PhD, anyway?

From your comments I'd say you're at about Grade Seven--am I right?

Have you completely given up the prextext of being a "PhD in biology" or did you just slip up?

You can carry out your ridiculous threat to post everywhere all the time (since you have no other commitments, such as your "schoolwork"), but how exactly would you deal with it if every single poster here simply ignored your posts as if they didn't exist at all?

Posted by: Elron Hubble at February 28, 2008 10:18 PM

To be fair, Elron, so far he is succeeding since y'all keep responding. May I make the suggestion that the collective ignoring commences....

Now.

Posted by: TK at February 28, 2008 10:28 PM

For a second, I thought you all had ignored me.
I'm almost done my degree, actually. I'm finished this year, with a couple papers to my name, one of which was chosen as the editor's choice article by Nature.
I think you all secretly tire of talking about movies and want to argue endlessly with me.
You people barely know what my argument was, let alone actually argue it with me.
And yeah, you're all feeding into my deep desire for this kind of thing.
I've cum at least three times now, each one better than the last.
I'm almost exhausted for the night, but... I guess I could go for another round.

Posted by: Wex at February 28, 2008 10:44 PM

Dexter Morgan,

I've heard of The Wasp Factory, but I haven't read it. I think that novel is one of his most popular ones, I've noticed a lot of references or allusions to it in various British media that I've come across. Was that his first novel? Anyway, I had to write a take home exam/essay on Complicity some years ago, so that's from whence my passing knowledge of Factory came. I don't really know/remember much about the book aside from its basic premise, and nothing that I read gave away this twist that will make me gag. I'm intrigued though, I'll have to re-read a plot summary somewhere, I don't have time to read a whole novel for leisure right now.

From what I've read of Banks, he's kind of fond of twists. The one in Complicity appears only about 2/3rds of the way through. It's kind of underwhelming, but given the insanity of what comes before it, it could only be anti-climatic, they had to get it out of the way.

I do remember reading that Banks also really cranked up the violence factor between Factory and Complicity, so (I think it was a review) the document said that if you didn't have the approprite sensibilities for Complicity, read Factory. So if it interests you, have at it.

Posted by: Jo 'Mama' Besser at February 28, 2008 11:08 PM

Spelling and grammatical errors aside.

Posted by: Jo 'Mama' Besser at February 28, 2008 11:10 PM

Loved the film, haaaaaated the book. Loathed. It was unbearable.

Also caught the Dexter shout-out; thought it was OOC for him to use such an obvious pseudonym. Harry would have given him hell.

Posted by: Lauren at February 28, 2008 11:23 PM

Oh shit. I'm late. Again. But, I saw this movie the first time the other day, and I have to say that my favorite part was when he is trying to convince the chicks to have a threesome. The one girl is SOOO not up for it. But they do it anyways. Ha. What a guy with a nice apartment and 6 figure salary will make women do. Oh, by the way, I love this site, and I love listening to the random rants by the regulars. You guys make a boring one in the morning internet search interesting.

Posted by: Raye Raye at February 28, 2008 11:52 PM

Jo 'Mama' Besser

It was indeed his first book but I have never heard it mentioned in the media over here and the only other person I know who has read it is the person who recommended it to me.

You write that he amplified the violence between the two novels. That sounds quite ghastly considering the level of violence depicted in The wasp Factory. In particular, the main character recalls killing some children when he himself was a child. The description, and the rest of the book for that matter, is quite frank and without remorse. It is quite black and peppered with macabre humor.

Posted by: Dexter Morgan at February 28, 2008 11:58 PM

Raye Raye, it helps if the 6 figure guy with said nice apt. looks like Christian Bale, too. But I digress...
never heard of the Wasp Factory, after reading a few reviews tonight I might just need to track down a copy.

Posted by: Be Adequite! at February 29, 2008 1:09 AM

Aaaah, the movie that made me like Sussudio.

From what I've read in interviews with Ellis, in retrospect, he wrote AP out of disgust and boredom with his own generation and lifestyle (and his father, with whom he had deeply troubled relationship). I got the boredom part of it.
He's not a very good writer, stylewise, but the message still comes through. The movie, be it flawed here & there, got the gist of it very well.

Posted by: Adere at February 29, 2008 2:52 AM

(upon scanning the thread).

Oh no, not the Reign Of Fire hate again... That's so November last year.

Posted by: Adere at February 29, 2008 3:14 AM

Didn't get the book first read. I found it really disturbing and didn't like it at all. Saw the film, re-read the book and appreciated its dark humour. I usually enjoy a book more than its film adaptation but felt Harron/Bale interpreted the novel really well.
RoF - love it! If we're just talking popcorn movies, what the hell, it's better than a lot of other shit going around. And I'll watch Christian Bale ... anytime! [sorry Bill Duke].

Posted by: Subi at February 29, 2008 4:42 AM

"Maybe he wants to buy an argument. Unfortunately, this room is for abuse."

Hee! A Monty Python reference always brightens my day. Nice one, twig.

Posted by: Dill The Devil at February 29, 2008 6:09 AM

Read the book. Was deeply disturbed, but I finished it. Then I saw the film and while they certainly kept the spirit of the book, it was much easier to take. I don't think they can actually show some of the stuff in the book on film. There's no rating for the hungry-rat-pipe-cheese-crumbs scene. *shudder*

Posted by: joker at February 29, 2008 6:11 AM

Please, everyone, do not judge all biology grad students on the basis of one. I made it through my program without feeling any need to become a belligerent self-important tit who likes to talk about my masturbatory exploits.

(Though there was that one time I threatened to eat my own Pajiba....)

A publication in a well-respected scientific journal, although pretty trippy to a very small group of people (Nature, huh? Good for you, dude!), does not make one qualified to be a film critic critic.

Come on, why not make nice and engage in some constructive bitchery with the group. It's more fun for everyone that way.

Posted by: MO at February 29, 2008 9:33 AM

Did anyone notice his designer ax? True chrome head with pine handle. Even that is semi-designer. Highlarious.

Posted by: MikeF at February 29, 2008 10:28 AM

This was definitely the film that kickstarted my near-unshakeable man-crush on Christian Bale. The scene where Bateman is confessing all of his crimes (whether they be real or imagined - and personally, my money's on imagined, if only because of Bateman's own shocked look when he manages to blow up a police car with a couple of haphazard pistol shots - seems to suggest even he can't quite believe that what is happening is real) over the phone to his lawyer ("I just had to kill a lot of people!") could easily have come across as utterly overblown ham acting in less capable hands. Bale sells it effortlessly.

I mean, seriously - imagine, say, Pacino doing that scene. Cringing yet? My point exactly.

Posted by: Dill The Devil at February 29, 2008 11:36 AM

late!again!
damn it i gotta get my ass in gear

as for this, god damn it American Psycho is an amazing film, just...so. damn.good.

and i have to hold up a hand and say yes, yes i am a reign of fire fan, its AWESOME!its about freakin DRAGONS!!! McConaughey goes after a dragon, with an AXE!!

Thats up there, in terms of sheer kick assery, with that bit from (the fantastic, genuinely) Pitch Black where Riddick is trapped between two aliens and we see the Alien-Sonar view of him puttin up to punch the fuckin thing in the damned head!!

You cant hate shit like that.

Not to mention, in terms of effects, the fly over of the tank convoy, the dragon just decimating shit from above while the people below can do nothing, then, OUT OF SPITE,because the got TOO CLOSE, tracing their route back and attacking the castle(Dragon Attacks CASTLE!COME ON!THE AWESOME!)is just incredible.

Man,my Reign Of Fire DVD is at HOME damn it!!!!i worked my ass off all week, have to work all weekened and next week too, it'd be SO much fun right now to stick RoF, DBS, man what else...Equilbrium, (i dont actually think its a dumb film, im fact i love it, but its up there with sheer fun violence and Bale-ness) Dog Soldiers, Transformer then to round it off...ease down with Dazed and Confused and Empire Records...ah well. i'll have to make do.

oh wait...i have my Hot Fuzz DVD.kickass.

Deep Blue Sea is another one thats just the most fun in the world to watch, me and my dad can occasionally share a love of big stupid action fare and we went to see DBS together and both predicted Sam's demise, laughed when it happened, then laughed harder at the full minute in length SHRIEK a girl sitting behind us emitted upon 'Now lets a pull together, and find a way, to get the hell BAM*rarlgemunchmunchnomotherfuckerthatsmylegsyoueatingraarglemunchchew!!!!!' hahahaaaaa....good times. thats how you bond with your dad girls. you go and watch stupid action flicks with him.


as for the McConaughey, i know he's been sweaty and shortarmed of late, but...in regards to his talent, SERIOUSLY people, have we all forgotten A Time To Kill?!

He's yet to do anything so bad IMO, that can wipe that from collective memory, the closing argument alone is enough to forgive being a bit smelly.

Plus, Dazed and Confused...i love the McConaughey, i'm not ashamed, this;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7f-BgDgpmE

is not the work of a talentless man
Back to Bale though...and...lets do that more often, it feels nice, for reals, the dude is easily one of the best actors working today, as much was evident back in the days of Empire of The Sun(Up there in the top of the 'films that will make me weep the second i hear the first bars of the soundtrack' ), 'Jim' was one of his best performances to date and given what the man has turned out since thats saying something.
The guy can make anything he's in good, he brings that much weight with him that you could give him the script for ....my god, for the Hottie and the Nottie and it would IMMEDIATELY transform from shit i wouldnt force on my worst...no i'd force it on my worst enemy, she's awful, but from truly horrible, horrible horrible crimes against cinema, to a dark and brooding study about....broody, dark shit relating to looks...it'd almost be the reverse AP. And, Bale could play the Nottie(GASP!)i mean it'd never work, the bdget alone for make up to make Bale anything other than utterly perfect(seriously, is he a robot?) would be so sky high as to bankrupt the project but it's fun to think about.

also fun, thinking about combining AP Bale with Dragon Slayah McConaughey and Equilbrium Bale and putting him in a room with Paris Hilton.

Imagine it.
Bateman's....Bateman-ness, McConHOORAAAAH's(gotta be is new name, come on)axe wielding building leapery and lack of fear of dragons, with the quick quickness and ability to slaughter his way through...everyone, ever of John Preston....going up against The Skank That Shall Not Be Named(*in tiny writing* except for above)

I'd pay to watch that.

I'd pay to watch every screening of that in every cinema in the world.

Posted by: nadine at February 29, 2008 11:55 AM

Late, but lovelovelove Reign of Fire. And not just because of the hot guys. It's not exactly a thought-provoking movie, but it's a fuck of a lot of fun.

Also, twig, love for the Monty Python reference.

Posted by: Cuno at February 29, 2008 12:57 PM

When I first read the book, I took the lack of bodies in the apartment as evidence that someone had come in and cleaned the place up.

Real Estate in Manhattan is damned expensive. It seemed to make sense to me that a realtor would go into a condo like that, see the bodies and have someone come and "clean up". Far too much money at stake to let a few corpses queer the deal.

It seemed to go with the underlying current of the book to me. Maybe I misread, it was a long time ago.

Posted by: mk at February 29, 2008 1:12 PM

high-five for the almost comedic overuse of cliches in a "movie review"....reading this crap sent me into deja-vu hell...plaigiarism at its worse....phhffftt..please

Posted by: muvo at February 29, 2008 1:19 PM

re wex's comment at 8:49 p.m.
__________________________
that's hot

Posted by: muvo at February 29, 2008 1:31 PM

I can't believe I'm admitting this but as soon as I saw the kitten, I turned off the movie. I just can't watch animals get killed. Humans are fine, kill them all if you like, but NO ANIMALS. I realize I am weird this way. I apologize.

Posted by: jessi1974 at February 29, 2008 2:14 PM

Seriously, Slim, do you just sit at your computer and hit "refresh" all day?

Posted by: Kolby at February 28, 2008 2:56 PM

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What I do on my sick days while watching American Dad in questionable underwear is my business. MINE!

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at February 28, 2008 3:01 PM

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barbadoslim really is one prolific blogger/commentator....he also frequently "regales" on Dlisted.com ...he's quite the regular there....and one or two other equally mind-numbing sites...needless to say his comments there are equally unsurpassed "clever and witty" ...yuh....so whilst 5 days a week are workdays for most...those same 5 days are "sick days" for slim there...poser

Posted by: frenchvanilla at February 29, 2008 2:34 PM

Just wanted to say this movie is awesome, and the review seemed spot on even if I did disagree with a few points. I'd like to comment further but I have a client to meet... a Cliff Huxtable.

Feed me a stray cat.

The kitten ends up fine, though, jessi.

Posted by: The Stew at February 29, 2008 3:18 PM

Re: The Stew - seriously?

If so, I'm so getting this over the weekend! Thanks for letting me know. (happy dance now commencing)

Posted by: jessi1974 at February 29, 2008 3:22 PM

Oh man, Stew. Jessi is going to flip shit when she finds out what really happens to that kitten. Just thinking about it gives me the shakes.

Kidding!

Posted by: the_wakeful at February 29, 2008 8:15 PM

Jessi- I rewatched the scene just to be sure, and yes, Bateman gets distracted with an old lady, the pretty little kitty ends up scampering off.

haha, too cruel wakeful, too cruel...

Posted by: The Stew at March 1, 2008 8:35 PM

I just finished watching Shaft(remake)on TNT and then read this, which has filled my Bale quotient for the week.

I just finished reading American Psycho about 2 weeks ago, when I was buying it at Borders the girl was like "oh, you saw the movie" and I was like yeah. Idk why but I thought that was weird. Even though I had watched the movie for the first time in a long time on HBO about 2 weeks prior to that. I had planned to only read a few chapters at a time so that it would take me a week to finish it. I like to read during breaks at work, but I was so into it, it only took me 2 days to read it. I imagined the characters as they were in the movie, Bale as Patrick, Reese Witherspoon as Evelyn, etc. But then I started to imagine him as the very Ralph Lauren print ad looking guy on the cover of the book and slowly started putting myself into Patrick Bateman's world. I was disturbed at the fact that in some weird way I probably would have been attracted to Patrick Batemen. Not that he would have dated me b/c I'm not white. Although he may not have had a problem disemboweling me.

So it took a few days to shake this book out of me. The words and the scenes were stuck in my head. I felt guilty that I had even bought it, that I was some sort of bad person. The blatent misogyny and racism made me hate the characters in the book, but what got to me more was that these people probably actually existed. These people that care about nothing but what they're business cards and suits look like. Whether they have reservations at the right restuarant and which girlfriend they will be taking there. Patick Bateman may not exist, but those people still do.

It is hard to say whether or not he actually killed anyone. He certainly wasn't all there. A park bench following him home. Everyone is always mistaking him and everyone he knows for someone else. When he talks to his lawyer about his phone call where he confesses everything, his laywer actually thinks that he is someone else who was pretending to be Patick Bateman. He says that he had dinner with Paul Allen in London. Was it Paul Allen or someone that looked like him? The fact that he was still living in his apartment where there were decaying bodies. The fact that none of his neighbors seemed to be complaining about the smell. Wouldn't he smell after all that time? In one of the last scenes of the book he is robbed by a cab driver who "recognizes" him as the guy who killed one of his friends. Was he just being robbed or was the guy actually getting revenge?

I also found it quite funny that Gloria Steinam, Christian Bale's step-mother, was one of the many people who publicly detested this book for it's misogyny.

Posted by: B at March 2, 2008 3:13 AM

I saw the movie and upon first viewing, found the only entertaining thing about it to be the scene where he chases that girl around with the chainsaw. I actually laughed out loud in the theater....I was..the only one laughing. Anyways, trying to find some meaning to it, I read the book. Then I threw the book away praying no one would ever know I owned it. It was so darksided, it gave me a new appreciation for the movie...which was decidedly less horrific. It still made the same social commentary, but not so (shuddering) awfully. i heart christian bale.

Posted by: jane at March 5, 2008 5:59 PM





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