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Hellboy / Dustin Rowles

Overappreciated Gems | April 17, 2008 | Comments (116)


Because I know that my relationship with many of the Pajibageeks is a tortured one - we don’t always agree when it comes to getting our cinematic rocks off; I like good movies, the Pajbageeks like damn near anything that jumps from the comic-book page — it is with a heavy heart and some trepidation — like telling a sexual partner during intercourse that she’s got an errant pube on her upper lip — that I have to break this to you. And I ask in advance that you keep your tar and feathers hidden securely beneath your Costco Doritos purchases and stacks of illustrated erotica in your Mom’s basement where you masturbate to Anime and pray against hope you’ll one day touch a real boobie (H/T Twig). I am, after all, only doing this for your own good, so that you might someday break out of stranglehold that adolescence still holds over you and go out into the real world and greet a sun that’s not etched into the background of whatever video game you’re immersed in. Like the build-up of grime behind your ears or the pony-tail you’ve been sporting since 9th grade, the Band-Aid needs to be removed, quickly and with more than a little force, just so I get the point across, Castlevania:

Hellboy is a fucking cinematic monstrosity, an irredeemable mess of a film that should be excised from Guillermo Del Toro’s resume. It is vile nonsense, stylistically rendered in Goth colors and ludicrous costumes to trick your eyes into believing you’re seeing something worthwhile. It is not. And while I will concede that Hellboy is a visually stunning film, it is no more or less preposterous than the overblown celluloid travesties that Michael Bay regularly flushes out of his intestine with the help of a Gibberish Colonicâ„¢.

Hellboy is, in a word: Butt.

Now, while some of you mull that over and, like a deluded New England Patriots fan walking out of Super Bowl XLII, live in your state of catatonic denial, let me attempt to describe the plot of Hellboy. Maybe then, if you see it in print, your irrational love will dry up like a slug bathing in salt.

Hellboy begins in 1944, where one Gregori Rasputin (yep: one in the same) — after spending five years building a dimensional portal device that he plans to use to destroy the Earth by summoning The Seven Gods of Chaos who have been asleep in another time and dimension — is interrupted in his quest by the pacifist Professor Trevor Bruttenhold and some American soldiers. While the portal is open, the soldiers — who are simultaneously fighting with Nazis — manage to throw a grenade on the porthole and destroy it, seemingly killing Rasputin, but not before he grants eternal life and beauty to Ilsa von Haupstein. Before the portal completely closes, however, a baby demon with a hand made of stone sneaks in through the portal and is claimed by Professor Bruttenhold and the United States’ Bureau of Paranormal Research and Defense.

Oh, and yeah: The baby demon loves Baby Ruth candy bars.

Sixty years later, that baby demon grows into Hellboy (though, he’s not very old — Hellboy ages in reverse dog years, see). Hellboy, who is sort of a red version of the Incredible Hulk (or, at least, a non-CGI rendering of Ang Lee’s Hulk), has a love/hate relationship with his captors and is occasionally called upon to snuff out other paranormal activity before the American public gets a whiff of it. He considers a now older Professor Bruttenholm (John Hurt) his father, for whom he has an immense affection.

We are introduced to present day Hellboy through the eyes of John Myers, an FBI agent who wins over the cantankerous, dry-witted Hellboy with, of course, a few Baby Ruth candy bars (because, as well all know, super-powerful, indestructible demons with stone hands love Baby Ruth!) Also under the employ of the Bureau of Paranormal Research and Defense is Abe Sapien, an alien-looking fish man with psychic abilities, and Liz (Selma Blair), a pyrokinetic who — when angry — has an unfortunate tendency to accidentally burn down hospitals with her powers. Hellboy is in love with Liz, but Liz gets out of the Bureau because she fears the destructive dangers of her power.

Preposterous enough yet? Oh, it gets worse: In fact, it’s at this point in the movie when my brain — designed to understand logic and coherence — completely loses the plot strands. From what I can follow, the cadaverous Kroenen (one of Rasputin’s henchmen) and Isla (who has not aged) find an engraved portal, spill the blood of their guide onto it, and it somehow reawakens Rasputin (yes, that Rapsutin, the Mad Monk who helped discredit the Tsarist government in Russia in the early 20th century). There’s little explanation for how or why. It just does, OK? Then, Rasputin and his cronies go to NYC and release Sammeal, a tentacled Alien looking creature that has the magical ability to split its essence, i.e., whenever it is killed, two grow in its place. As you might imagine, this causes quite a problem for Hellboy and, during the ensuing melee, Kroenen — whose body I think is made of sand (he bleeds sand, anyway) — kills Hellboy’s FBI bodyguard and then pretends to be dead himself, allowing his body to be carried into the Bureau. Then the Bureau director, Tom Manning (Jeffery Tambor) gets all pissy with Hellboy for allowing the murders to happen. Meanwhile, Hellboy — a fucking demon who keeps his horns shorn for inexplicable reasons — gets jealous when Liz has coffee with Myers. Then, Rasputin shows up and shows Professor Bruttenholm a vision of the future where Hellboy destroys mankind.

Then things get really weird.

I won’t spoilerate the ending for you; in fact, I don’t think I could if I wanted to; it makes no goddamn sense to me. The best I can make out is that Rasputin literally sucks out Liz’s soul and Hellboy is faced with a predicament: Fulfill his destiny (that stone hand of his, it turns out, is a literal key which unlocks the door to destruction) or save mankind with a couple of bad 80’s action-film one-liners.

Granted, Ron Perlman — who is hidden underneath the ridiculous Hellboy costume — is fantastic in the role and mines a few of those cheesy one-liners for much more than they’re worth (“Second date, no tongue!”). It’s amazing, actually, that he’s able to spit out the snark through so many layers of prosthetics. Perlman is a magnetic force, absolutely commanding on screen, and an action hero who deserves much better than the heap of demon excrement he’s asked to wallow around in here. The cinematography, also, is a beauty to behold, as you’d expect from Del Toro. The action sequences are also at times stellar, at least before the CGI Spectacular lays waste to everything on screen, piling dumbassery on top of inanity before sealing it in a big bag of idiocy. It is one unholy mockery, and completely fucking senseless, to boot (Could someone explain to me how Hellboy brought back Liz? By breathing on her?)

And therein lies Hellboy’s biggest fault: It makes no fucking sense. Rasputin? A demon boy? Nazis? Portals? Everlasting life? Baby Ruth candy bars? I mean, come the fuck on. Even for the comic-book geekiest of folks, surely all of this rings a little over the top? And what I don’t understand is why the same fanboys who sport wood over Hellboy can’t wait to eviscerate another awful comic-book film like Spiderman 3, faulting it for a poorly designed, overly complex, villain-heavy plot. What the hell was Hellboy but a handful of villains (Rasputin, Isla, Kroener, Sammeal, the Behometh); cornball, endlessly lame dialogue; a hokey-as-hell love story; and — after the ridiculous but somewhat intriguing origins story — ninety goddamn minutes of tortuously empty spectacle? It’s bad action porn with an overly-explosive money shot that hits you in the eye and blinds you before burrowing into the back of your brain and exploding (that’s some powerful demon seed).

Still, for all its faults, there is enough visual panache, dark-world stylism, and breathtaking special effects to suggest that a Hellboy 2 may have some potential, so long as Del Toro doesn’t feel the need to dumb it down the three-year olds, who have no use for logic, anyhow. Del Toro is, after all, a clearly talented director (and a sometimes talented writer). And the character — and Ron Perlman, especially — deserve a second shot to make this motherfucker work; it’s unfortunate, however, that in the sequel, Hellboy will likely be obscured by even more characters than the original. It’s a shame, too, because when it’s just Hellboy and his cigar, he’s definitely a character you can love.

Dustin Rowles is the publisher of Pajiba. He lives with his wife and son in Ithaca, New York. You may email him, or leave a comment below.


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Comments

I haven't read a word yet. I just had to let out a premature SQUUUEEEEE!!!

Posted by: jM at April 17, 2008 2:37 PM

I hear you, Dustin. Not my genre at all. 'Course, 30-year-old chicks are hardly the target demographic for comic book adaptations.

Side note, before I scrolled down all the way, I totally thought that Medifast ad was an ad for breast enhancement. Funny.

Posted by: MO at April 17, 2008 2:38 PM

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

...Selma is hot...

Posted by: boo at April 17, 2008 2:39 PM

No squuueeee?

Posted by: jM at April 17, 2008 2:40 PM

Hey now Rowles....leave the Pats out of it

haven't seen this movie, glad to know I wasn't missing much (tho I do have a slight girl-crush on Selma....)

Posted by: Bethy at April 17, 2008 2:41 PM

What the hell's going on here...? Our pride & joy Ben nails a top comment (as does our beloved Meatbot), Paddy's tradin' Euros, Julie's... fuckin'... I dunno, just Bizarro world stuff, TK is seriously wounded, and now this?

I'm taking the rest of the afternoon off to lay in a field of dandelions and wonder when it all went so horribly, horribly wrong...

Posted by: Skittimus Maximus at April 17, 2008 2:42 PM

huh, the movie made perfect sense to me. Could be I'm a fan of the books and dig that it's all supernatural related.

but damnt to say this is worse than spiderman 3? Have you actually watched spiderman 3? Only way I was able to stand it was to MST3K it when I was in the theatre.

Posted by: kylethoreau at April 17, 2008 2:42 PM

AND THEN I FUCK UP HTMLIMABOBS!!

...great, just great...

Posted by: SKitiDAMMIT at April 17, 2008 2:44 PM

Ouch! Who doesn't love Rasputin as the villain? Come ON!

Posted by: coveredinbees at April 17, 2008 2:45 PM

I've always labeled this movie as too mind-numbingly stupid even for the likes of ME, so I haven't seen it. And I LOVE Pan's Labyrinth. Way too much.

Skitt, shhhhh...it'll all get better soon.

Posted by: Julie at April 17, 2008 2:47 PM

Just outta curiousity (and targeted specifically at Julie), d'ya suppose when Hellboy's lusting after Liz and gets no action, he goes back to the BPRD with a case of purple-balls?

This is my only lure... be strong...

Posted by: Skittimus Maximus at April 17, 2008 2:51 PM

Dustin- Agreed. I tried watching this late one night, didn't follow what they were trying to do, fell asleep halfway though and sent the movie back to Netflix the next day. I didn't even want to bother trying to re-watch and decipher. Great visuals. Good lead. That's it.

Posted by: Riles at April 17, 2008 2:52 PM

But he saves the kittens!!!!

I was very "meh" about the movie after seeing it in the theater. I have to say, though, that I didn't find it anywhere near as nonsensical as you describe. However, after multiple viewings, I've come to truly enjoy the movie & am excited to see the sequel.

Of course, I own more than one Michael Bay movie on DVD, so keep that in mind.

Posted by: Smello at April 17, 2008 2:54 PM

Wasn't Selma Blair married to Ahmet Zappa? Gross.

webRIOT. They should bring that back instead of those other bullshit new game shows and reality cesspools.

Posted by: Kash at April 17, 2008 2:55 PM

Skitt, I'm betting Hellboy goes home and watches The Golden Girls. When he finally gets the lyrics "thank you for being a friend" out of his head he sips some nice warmed milk and falls asleep.

Nice try though.

Posted by: Julie at April 17, 2008 2:56 PM

I make no excuses....I love what I love.

Posted by: feramones at April 17, 2008 2:56 PM

Just so we're clear here, DR:

Are Pajibageeks (1) geeks who like damn near anything that jumps from the comic-book page or (2) fanboys who ... can't wait to eviscerate another awful comic-book film like Spiderman 3?

Please clarify.

I am confused.

Posted by: ajax19 at April 17, 2008 2:58 PM

Oh for fuck's sake.

(Sigh.)

Though I am aware of the pointlessness of arguing with something as willfully and stridently boneheaded as the thesis of this article, here goes:

The plots of Chinatown, Out of the Past, The Big Sleep, and even Citizen Kane would be just as unwieldy and intractable in print. Classics all.

Dustin, turn in your geek credentials immediately. And no, you can never have them back. You are unworthy.

Posted by: dorkenheimer at April 17, 2008 3:01 PM

Agree agree agree, im not sure you could get Hurt, Perlman, Blair and David Hyde Pierce together and possibly recreate as bad a movie.

Posted by: Ryan at April 17, 2008 3:02 PM

Okay, Dustin. Now you're just picking fights for the hell of it.

Reviewing overrated movies is merely an excuse to say the word "fuck" a lot.

Posted by: tt_marie at April 17, 2008 3:03 PM

Yes, I'll acknowledge it's not a great film but I still like it.

Sometimes it's difficult to describe why you like something that is pretty bad, like anchovies on pizza.

Posted by: Jim at April 17, 2008 3:05 PM

I didn't think this movie was spectacular, but I hardly think it was as bad as this review makes it out to be. If nothing else, it gave us a really interesting lead character. And some of your objections just don't track with me.

From what I can follow, the cadaverous Kroenen (one of Rasputin's henchmen) and Isla (who has not aged) find an engraved portal, spill the blood of their guide onto it, and it somehow reawakens Rasputin (yes, that Rapsutin, the Mad Monk who helped discredit the Tsarist government in Russia in the early 20th century). There's little explanation for how or why. It just does, OK?

Well, it's magic, isn't it? How much sense does it need to make? I mean, Christ, we're not idiots, we know there's no such thing in the real world. But in a movie, if some guy's blood brings another guy back to life, what more explanation do we need?

Posted by: Todd at April 17, 2008 3:07 PM

Disagreed.

I'm sorry, but saying the plot of a sueprnatural comic book movie makes little sense is a cheap and easy way to discredit something that one personally didn't enjoy.

Take the plot of any SF, fantasy, or comic book movie and type it out like you've done here, and it will look ridiculous.

Posted by: Dariuss at April 17, 2008 3:12 PM

I didn't think it was popular enough to be that notorious. But Dustin's biliousness and the commenters agreeing seems to say that there's people feeling beat down by HB love.

Huh!

Ehhhh, go back to watching "Lost", sorry you're not having any here.

Posted by: Jay at April 17, 2008 3:13 PM

I'm not defending Hellboy (although I would consider it for Hangover Theater) but... whatever happened to the willing suspension of disbelief?

Posted by: thejodester at April 17, 2008 3:16 PM

In your face, Greg!

Now I have proof (cuz the internets say so) that this film is an overblown suppository shrink wrapped in glossy celluloid and delivered to the quivering, puckered crevasses of eager comic book fan boys everywhere. The least they could do is lube it up before jamming it in there. Cold hands are also discouraged.

Posted by: Erica O. at April 17, 2008 3:18 PM

Hum, "The Confessor and Altarboy" movie is looking like it has a chance.

Posted by: BWeaves at April 17, 2008 3:26 PM

Dustin I love you deeper than the seas of time. But damnit why'd you have to do this to me!!!

This is one of the movies that inspired me to get into monster/creature/character design for movies. The work they did designing abe sapien is nothing short of brilliant, and the Sammuel creature is so old-school awesome (using prosthetics and body suits, which arguably look BADASS AWESOME rather than shitty CGI creatures.)

I lovingly call 'Hellboy' a pantsgasm of hot ideas thrown together in a pit of ridiculous and WTF, which finally emerges drenched in Nickolodeon green slime coughing one-liners.

Damnit. I just love love love hot creature design. And this movie has loads of it. DON'T HATE ME BECAUSE THEY'RE BEAUTIFUL/UGLY.

Posted by: Alexa at April 17, 2008 3:30 PM

I meant sorry you're not having any fun here, and I truly am!

Posted by: Jay at April 17, 2008 3:32 PM

As a thirty year old chick who freaking loves comics and watches all comic book movies I totally agree with this review.

I loved Devil's Backbone and had high hopes for Hellboy when it was released. Then I watched it.

I understand people having a certain attachment to the source material but to argue that this is actually a good movie is willfully illogical and just plain fuctarded.

Posted by: gee at April 17, 2008 3:33 PM

Hellboy's just a fun movie. It's almost in a different class than Spider-Man, because Spider-Man tries to be more serious. Hellboy aspires to be fun, and it is fun.

I don't see that there's any basis for a backlash here, Dustin. Even the HB backers here have been pretty polite. The "keep your tar and feathers hidden" bit isn't really necessary.

Posted by: Tony at April 17, 2008 3:36 PM

I understand people having a certain attachment to the source material but to argue that this is actually a good movie is willfully illogical and just plain fucktarded.

I am mostly curious as to how original creator + decent director = jumble of incoherant ideas badly followed through. It's an intellectual exercise - usually movies don't suck so hard with those ingrediants.

It's like taking delicious chocolate, pure cake flour, fresh organic eggs and heavy cream and instead of making a cake, you end up with cream du fetal pig.

It just doesn't make sense.

Posted by: twig at April 17, 2008 3:40 PM

I didn't think 'Hellboy' was that bad. It's a fun movie to watch on a rainy day. I had more fun watching it than I did any of the Spider-man movies and even the 'Bourne' sequels.

Posted by: mark at April 17, 2008 3:41 PM

..yeah. This sounds like it has less to do with an accurate portrayal of Rasputin than 'Anastasia' .


I'onno. For all my joy at comic book movies (and going all mushy over Ray Park when I met him..gur..), this one never did appeal to me, even though I have a tiny crush on Selma Blair. (I must be tired, because I started writing Sailor Moon, which is a whole 'nother kettle of fish, though it does tie back to Dustin's original masturbatory anime comment. God, I win.)

Posted by: Mara at April 17, 2008 3:43 PM

Mr. PaddyDog dragged me to this. I kept sitting there thinking "Rasputin? Really?"
It's as if someone didn't think Nazis were evil enough and felt the need to throw something else in there. You know, coz Nazis, they've lost their edge. By about half way through however I was hoping for an appearnce by Emperor Ming or at least Pol Pot just to get rid of the boredom.

Posted by: PaddyDog at April 17, 2008 3:45 PM

I'll take a stab at explaining how Hellboy brought Liz back...

See, Hellboy isn't just some random demon baby, he's like a prince of hell (notice the crown of fire when he has his horns all grown out? Yeah, he's a badass in hell too...). You could say he has... connections.

And Liz? Well, she was only MOSTLY dead. I mean, its not like her bod was all fucked up or anything. In fact she was 'killed' by the expedient of sorcerously removing her soul.. and Rasputin pretty much only put it on hold anyway (remember, the prize for opening the door for the Oghdru-jihad or however it's spelled... was her life back).

So Hellboy told whatever power (he doesn't know personally) that if they didn't put her soul back where it belonged he was going to go all mideval on them as only a demon prince of hell with a big fuckin' stone hand could do. Heck, for all we know, THEY were afraid of the seven gods of chaos being unleashed in Hell.

Big Red has connections.

And while I'm at it: What the hell is wrong with lovin' some Baby Ruths?

Posted by: Spike at April 17, 2008 3:47 PM

Dustin, you are right about your plot points, HOWEVER, as you mentioned but majorly glossed over, the movie works because the actors (especially Perlman) and director sell it 110%. It is a great movie to look at and it's fun. I really don't like the genre at all but I enjoyed this one because it was fun and different. Seriously, I think you need to lighten up here, if you don't like it that's fine, but I wouldn't fault anyone who does take it on it's merits and likes it for what it is.

Posted by: lumenatrix at April 17, 2008 3:48 PM

28 year old chick here. Still love this movie. And I can touch my own boobies whenever I want to (and don't seem to have any trouble tracking down other people interested in that task, either), and I see the outside sun plenty when I'm huffing my way through my marathon training.

In this instance, I may have to cheerfully and without rancor ask you to bite me, Dustin.

Posted by: PaleoLithchick at April 17, 2008 3:56 PM

Dustin, for personal experience it's never a good idea to have a unrequited sit-down with your friend to tell her/him boyfriend/girlfriend sucks. If that's the case they will get it anyhow but in the meantime they will sincerely despite you if it's not and you just dont like their loved ones cause, well you just dont click you gonna have to die with the secret.
just an advice, in my humble opinion.

Posted by: rio at April 17, 2008 4:12 PM

The movie is fun eye candy, much like "The 5th Element". Neither movie makes much sense but with a kicking surround sound system and great picture they are a lot of fun. "Hellboy" is nowhere near the worst movie Del Toro has done. That honor falls to "Mimic".

Posted by: Rob at April 17, 2008 4:15 PM

that's clearly what happened when I talked with my old friend puntuation. she clearly wont have any relation with me any longer.

Posted by: rio at April 17, 2008 4:15 PM

http://xkcd.com/406/

That's all I have to say.

Posted by: KatSings at April 17, 2008 4:20 PM

WOOHOO!!

Geeks are so fucking touchy. So defensive about their precious precious movies, comic books.

So it's not often that someone has the guts to drag them into the street and metphorically beat the shit out of them for their AWFUL taste in IRREDEEMABLY TERRIBLE movies.

Why do people defend this garbage? This movie is objectively bad. Stop slobbering over comic books, wake up and smell stench of bad writing, bad acting, bad bad bad bad BAD.

Thank you, Dustin. Whew. And I swear, if the comic book nerds start a flame war over this silliness...

Posted by: Tati at April 17, 2008 4:22 PM

Gasp. Dustin doesn't like intentionally campy movies? Don't tell me you hate Evil Dead II as well! Haha... oh well. Any good movie critic has to have the one good movie they hate. Roger Ebert has his Fight Club, so Dustin might as well have his Hellboy.

Posted by: Joe at April 17, 2008 4:27 PM

I never understood the Pajiban obsession with this film. I don't hate the film, but I've seen it twice and each time it inspired nothing but an apathetic "meh". I have to disagree with Rob that it's similar to the Fifth Element in that the Fifth Element kicks major Managalore ass (and scores points for some psychotic Oldman action), whereas Hellboy is mediocre entertainment at best.

That said...I'll still see the sequel because I am a sucker for this genre and maybe, just maybe, the sequel will rise above its predecessor at least in entertainment value.

Posted by: lux at April 17, 2008 4:28 PM

To me, this is a better movie for Hangover Theater. It makes no god damn sense at all, so I don't have to try to understand it. I can just slump in front of the TV, sip a Diet Coke, and wallow in the stupid prettiness and Ron Perlman's soothing deep voice.

Posted by: june at April 17, 2008 4:31 PM

Ok, YES the plot sounds like gibberish, you've made your point, great whatever.

I would still rather watch Ron Perlman ham it up in heavy makeup than have to see Peter Parker sing and dance. No contest (although talk to me later about Spiderman 2 - Dr. Octopus, don't do it, I love you!). I will see the sequel for the actors/characters, the cinematography and "the visual panache, dark-world stylism, and breathtaking special effects" that you already explained for me.

Alexa, also thanks for the shout-out for the old-school quality creatures, I'd rather see a good prosthetic mask than cheap CGI any day of the week.

Posted by: Anne (in Reno) at April 17, 2008 4:33 PM

Pretty nervy review for a guy who jerked off into the pile of crap that was Knocked Up. You can't love Apatow movies with their stock characters, stupid predicaments, and absurd endings and complain that a fantasy/action flick is unrealistic. I think what fanboys/girls appreciated was seeing intelligent people (even if they are not human) acting like adults, and some dialouge that did not sound like retarded frat boys got into the near beer.

Posted by: jenn at April 17, 2008 4:33 PM

So it's not often that someone has the guts to drag them into the street and metphorically beat the shit out of them...

So, uh, you were home schooled, eh? Never went to highscool and all... Rock on, dude.

It takes balls as big as church bells and a sharp "critic's eye" to rip on geeks and movies based on comic books, and to call a movie about a demon-dude who loves cats, smokes cigars, and was birthed from hell by some Nazi ritual non-sensical.

I don't think HB fans think the movie is great art. I certainly haven't heard that. Perlman nailed the roll and it was sort of goofy, harmless fun. That's all really.

Posted by: ajax19 at April 17, 2008 4:34 PM

Also, I too do not live in a basement, nor does my primary form of sexual gratification come from myself or a computer.

I think we should do a survey and see what the gender split is on love/hate for this movie. Sounds like a lot of chicas on here defending it, and now I'm curious.

Posted by: Anne (in Reno) at April 17, 2008 4:35 PM

Umm, I just wanted to ask a question:

How many of you comic-book-geek haters (Dustin included) are going to see Iron Man when it comes out? Or Dark Knight? Or Watchmen? Or hell, even Hellboy 2?

Because unless I understood it wrong, a lot of you are just as geeked out about those films as the people you profess to despise.

Dustin, seriously, stop living in denial, alright? Complaining about the leaps in logic in this film while touting those movies (even with RDJ) is, as I was taught, the basic definition of hypocrisy. You are looking like the Larry Craig of comic book movies: despite clear evidence to the contrary, you are still fighting the truth about yourself, and while doing so, you feel the need to insult those of us who live openly with our geekosexuality.

If this is what you must do to feel better, hey, it is your site. Whatever. All I know is, loved it, bought the DVD, will see the sequel in a heartbeat. And I don't need any last-minute rationale to do so.

Posted by: Vermillion at April 17, 2008 4:39 PM

Hmm, Hellboy. I thought it was an interesting film, very eldritch and somewhat entertaining (if you weren't doing anything else). It's also an excellent movie to watch while feeling a bit wrung out after a long night. Trust me on this.
The Cthulhu-like monstrosities waiting just outside the Door Between had to be renamed, as the Great Old Ones are steadfast believers in copyright laws and will visit their wrath upon violators.

Posted by: The Wanderer at April 17, 2008 4:39 PM

I'm trying to think of a proper comment but all I can come up with is 'weak'. Writing down the plot of any other sci-fi/fantasy movie will yield similar results. I'm not a particular fan of the movie, and never read the comics.
I definitely agree Ron Perlman makes the most of it. (As an aside, not only can he act in the prosthetics, he can also play pool!)

Posted by: Stew at April 17, 2008 4:45 PM

This was just....meh. The visuals were pretty cool and I do have a pretty hardcore girlcrush on Selma Blair (who I wish would play silent star Louise Brooks). But, Ron Perlman was MUUUUUUCH better in "Beauty in the Beast" and especially in "The City of Lost Children."

Posted by: dammitjanet at April 17, 2008 4:49 PM

Musicals don't make any sense, but you go to the theatre, you sit down, you watch people break into spontanious song and dance, (and half of the songs have less to do with forwarding the plot and more to do with showing off) and then you clap and enjoy it because it got to a place in your heart and it made you smile and it made you take things less seriously and it got stuck in your head for two weeks.

Hellboy is like the musical of the comic book movie adaptations. You know that when you see a movie called "Hellboy" that you're going to watch something ridiculous, but you'll be damned if the people up there don't sell it for all they're worth. And ultimately, it isn't that offensive, so what's the point in devoting so much energy to hating it? I don't think anyone has ever said it was great art, but it is a fun, and there is some definite talent that went into creating it. And for the record, it does not pull the same emotionally manipulative bullshit as a Michael Bay film man. If you expect something serious from something called Hellboy, then go watch Howard the Duck and tell me you expect something serious from that too.

Posted by: DalGirl at April 17, 2008 5:02 PM

ooh Dustin! Tell me it was a strategic move to post this on Thursday afternoon when it's official leave work early and piss off to the pub night just so you won't be castrated before nightfall. I hear the masses howling for your blood, determined to drag you through the streets of Pajiba and hoist your severed head on a pike at the Pajiba city walls. I haven't seen so much real anger on this site since the Smith and Wellesley girls all decided to bail on us.

Posted by: PaddyDog at April 17, 2008 5:31 PM

Paddy, he's a slick one, that Dustin.

Posted by: Julie at April 17, 2008 5:39 PM

This review is entirely false. Fact.

Posted by: TL at April 17, 2008 5:45 PM

Yeah... I agree with Dustin on all of his individual arguments, which is why I find his conclusion so surprising. Hellboy is NOT, "in a word: BUTT". You can't say it's "in a word: BUTT" if you're as impressed with Ron Perlman and the cinematography as you say you are... otherwise you can't summarize the entire movie (in all its faults AND qualities) in one word. Anyone else see what I mean?

Posted by: Gabrielle at April 17, 2008 5:49 PM

Ah! Good times, PaddyDog. Good, good times.

Posted by: boo at April 17, 2008 5:49 PM

Started reading the comments....got bored and am just posting before heading out for the evening.

Love Hellboy. Exactly for all the reasons listed. Yes, every last one of them. It may not have much behind it of substance, but damnit....it's still so pretty and Selma Blair is so vulnerable and Ron Perlman is so fucking AWESOME...

I have to say, Dustin...this review was great. It was so deliberately belligerent and aggressive. Even, should we say...snarky and bitchy? Way to bring snarky back!

K...off to find me some gin worth ingesting...

Posted by: Shadows of Dakaron at April 17, 2008 5:53 PM

PaleoLithchick's comment gave me quite a chuckle. I'm guessing she's not a frequent visitor here.

Posted by: Roads at April 17, 2008 5:54 PM

Love the concept for the new series. Have a great idea for the next overappreciated gem and it would be real easy.

Just copy and paste the recent Buffy article.

Posted by: WestCoastPat at April 17, 2008 6:10 PM

Oh, PaleoLITHchick. Okay, I had read it as PaleoLITchick and I thought it was a new book genre aimed at ditsy little girls who can't be bothered to read real literature but have an unhealthy obsession with cave men.

Posted by: PaddyDog at April 17, 2008 6:12 PM

Boo:

Yeah, I remember those days fondly. My early days at Pajiba were bathed in the beautiful mysogyny wars. I miss those hell cats.

Posted by: PaddyDog at April 17, 2008 6:17 PM

I hardly ever agree with Dustin, so seeing him rag on a really fun and entertaining movie is not very surprising. I don't understand the Apatow and message film love, he doesn't understand the genre film love. That's just the way it is.

Posted by: Adam C at April 17, 2008 6:47 PM

Any time I see or hear "lith" my brain automatically says "'neo', meaning 'new' and 'lithic' meaning 'stone'". Just can't help it.

I don't know if Buffy's overappreciated, I didn't watch it. But that was a nice dig by Pat, I definitely give style points. I don't really hate anything that's sacred around here, I just ignore it, so I couldn't say "NUH UH, IT SO DOES SUCK!". But really, how are polar bears living on that island? Explain that smoke monster.

Ohhhh I'm not mad. Tati's fuckin steamed about something and obviously wants a fight, but that's his/her lookout, as they say. I'm gonna go see the New Pornographers in a few minutes and maybe even have a beer or two! I'm completely serene.

Can I shout the "New Frontier" animated movie out again? Granted, the book's titanic, but I think they made a pretty good little movie out of it.

Hmmm. I wonder if there's people out there festering to rain hate on "Henry Fool". That probably would get me to punching the tar baby, I'm afraid. Can "Dune" get an "Under--" already, though?

And yes of course I own the three disc edition with the extended cut. Just kind of an ironic shame that "Red Right Hand" had already been used for "Scream" so they had to get someone to cover it for a movie with a guy who literally has a big goddamn red right hand. I guess Nick got the publishing money anyway.

Posted by: Jay at April 17, 2008 7:04 PM

Posted by: joe at April 17, 2008 7:12 PM

I haven't seen so much real anger Wait? Who's raging with anger here?

Posted by: coveredinbees at April 17, 2008 7:20 PM

44-year-old female here. Fond of some comics, not fond of some others, never read Hellboy before or after seeing the movie. I don't even own a basement and I refuse to read any book that starts at the back.

I don't know where the "overrated" impression comes from. I've never heard anybody say, "You HAVE to watch Hellboy, it's SO great." I've never heard anybody relentlessly quote the one-liners till you want to puke.

Most I've heard is, "Yeah, Ron Perlman was good in that one." But Ron Perlman is good in just about everything he tries, so that's not too startling a revelation.

It's more like "affection", less like "slavish adoration." I'll see Hellboy 2 at some point.

Posted by: Wednesday at April 17, 2008 7:57 PM

Overall, the movie is faithful to the source material, which makes it a great film. But, there are some issues with the movie that drag it back down to just a pretty good and fun film.

Firstly, you need to read the source material. This movie was not made for the masses, it was made for the fans of Hellboy. The fact that you don't get it isn't the film's problem, it's yours. Someone mentioned willing suspension of disbelief, and you really need to rethink that. It's a movie about a giant demon guy with a huge, movable, stone for a right hand. Unclench a fucking little, will ya?

Now, the faults of the film are present, and they are serious. In the books, Hellboy isn't a secret. He's public knowledge, as is the BPRD. Why the writers felt they had to fuck around with this bit, I'll never understand. Also, the human point of view character is completely fucking useless. You're supposed to get a view of humanity and all its faults and features through the eyes of Hellboy, a demon fighting on the side of angels. This, and this alone, is the biggest fault of the entire fucking movie.

But, if you were to actually read the books, and then compare them, you'd be astonished by how much they got right. Comparing this to Spider-Man 3? Where, for some fucktard reason, they chose to rewrite the death of Uncle Ben, introduced fucking emo Peter Parker, and subjected us to a fucking singing Kirsten (piss-poor casting as Mary Jane to fucking begin with) Dunst? That's just a low blow and an act of willful ignorance.

Posted by: Spork at April 17, 2008 8:22 PM

I stopped being able to comprehend what was going about a paragraph into the plot summary. The only reason I finished reading: I'm putting off studying for an anatomy final.

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Posted by: chloe at April 17, 2008 10:23 PM

Meh, as a self-sufficient, socially functional, sexually active member of society, I can confidently say I liked this movie. Love it? Nope. Enjoy it for Hangover Theatre? You bet. Like comics too, in fact.

And don't worry; I'm not angry or offended. I've long since stopped getting bothered when people try to insult me personally for my tastes. Life is short. I like what I like. If anyone thinks less of me for my taste in entertainment, they can simply bite my lily-white posterior.

So do your worst, Mr. Rowles. Do your worst.

Posted by: ShinyKate at April 17, 2008 10:34 PM

Overappreciated, my ass.

I've never heard anyone praise this movie the way they do for what are generally considered overappreciated movies.

Also, this was a comic book. Way too easy.

Posted by: morerobots at April 17, 2008 11:00 PM

But it has Ron Perlamn fighting Nazis, Rasputin, AND Selma Blair. We've all been subjected to terrible movies that feature those items individually, but it's mathmatically impossible to hate a movie that has all three. Do I need to show my work? Okay, here goes:

Ron Perlman fighting Nazis with his bare fists (A) = Awesome.

Rasputin: the closest thing to a real life supervillian the 20th century has ever seen [Fuck Stalin, Hitler, Mussolini, Chairman Mao, and their ilk, they were pussies] (B) = Awesome.

Selma Blair: talented, great personality, and unconventonally beautiful, so you can enjoy her, but don't have to worry about meatheads telling you repeatedly how much they'd like to "do" her or where they'd like to put it in her (C) = Awesome.

If A, B, & C all equal awesome individually, then A x B x C must equal Awesome to the third power, which everyone knows is so much awesome that it renders most men impotent, most women infertile, and puts pretty much everyone into a catatonic state of euphoria.

So see Dustin, math has proven your review incorrect. Who cares about all the silly, incomprehensible stuff in the movie, it was just put in there to make the equation seem more complex than it really was, so you can't even factor that in. Simply put, you've come to the wrong conclusion. You must have forgoten to carry the one or something, happens to the best of us sometimes. I forgive you though.

Posted by: CarpePancakes! at April 17, 2008 11:12 PM

I'm a 28 year old, non-comic reading woman (also with the boobs I can touch any time and who ventures out of the house etc) and I liked Hell Boy. Sure, it's not deep or hauntingly beautiful and savage like Pan's Labyrinth, but it's not trying to be. It's just a comic book movie with some good leads (if a guy in a hundred kilos of red make up with a giant stone hand can make me feel funny in the pants, that really says something about his charisma), good effects and cinematography and cheesy action. Also, I never read any of the source material and I understood it fine. It's a movie about a big red demon guy that fights evil creatures from other dimensions. If you're hung up on getting a scientific explanation for how they brought a Russian magician back from the dead in a movie which includes a 200 year old, wind-up clockwork assassin with sand for blood and portals through the moon to hell, then maybe you should watch another movie that doesn't require so much suspension of disbelief.

What I don't get is hardly anyone I know has even seen Hell Boy. There are plenty of worse movies out there more deserving of a Most Overrated review. Like ET. Even when I was a kid I thought the alien looked like a turd on a stick. To this day, I haven't been able to force myself to sit through that pile of sentimental crap.

Posted by: Alex at April 17, 2008 11:16 PM

I watched this a very, very long time ago, but I remember being sort of bored throughout the movie, but loving the ending with the kiss and the engulfing flames. That whole visual made me sort of shmoopy. Eh, I can't really bring the ire for either side of the arguement.

Posted by: Cait at April 17, 2008 11:20 PM

if a guy in a hundred kilos of red make up with a giant stone hand can make me feel funny in the pants, that really says something about his charisma

I'm so glad to know I'm not the only one who feels this way about Ron Perleman in this film :)

And the final kiss did take the cake for unconventionally romantic images.

Posted by: ShinyKate at April 17, 2008 11:48 PM

Eh, I loved it. The whole goofiness and the PG-13 violence just pushed my buttons in a unique way.

I'm not a comic book nerd or anything, but I usually enjoy them, unless you're force-feeding me the vomit milkshake that was Spiderman3 (true story- the emohair move and jazz dancing made me involuntarily kick the chair of the person in front of me. No joke). They're especially great with a wake-and-bake on a Sunday morning at your buddy's house. Helloooo, League of Extraordinary Gentlemen.

Plus, am I the only one who thinks that giant, muscley red men in leather pants are kind of hot?

I realize that last comment may have ostracized me forever, but dammit, I don't care. I need to know.

Posted by: Jaci at April 18, 2008 12:02 AM

"And therein lies Hellboy's biggest fault: It makes no fucking sense. Rasputin? A demon boy? Nazis? Portals? Everlasting life? Baby Ruth candy bars? I mean, come the fuck on."
Thank God my suspension of disbelief button's on. From the looks of it I'd be awfully cranky otherwise.

Posted by: Moogles at April 18, 2008 1:10 AM

Helloooo, League of Extraordinary Gentlemen.

Now that's a movie that really gave the finger to the books.

Posted by: Jay at April 18, 2008 1:22 AM

This review is entirely false. Fact.

HA!

I thought the movie was ok but the usual mess of trying to cram in an origin story along with a new story. That usually gets messy.

The Spiderman dance scene still makes me laugh. He looks like the lead singer of Interpol, someone who should not be fighting crime.

Posted by: Brian at April 18, 2008 1:52 AM

Meh,Dustin has PMT. The people who didnt like Hellboy/havent seen it can jabber as triumphantly as they like about the review & the inferiority of geek opinion- but Im finding this pretty sad.

I *think* Im a reasonably functional member of society but there is still a place in my heart that loves campy, kitschy, comic book content- which is NOT the same as saying anything with enough 'cool' ingredients will work (league of extraordinary gentlemen anyone?)
But Wednesday said it best when she said people have affection for Hellboy, its not art, its not Pan's Labyrinth, its not supposed to be & Ive yet to hear people claim otherwise.

Im pretty sure Im not stricken with slavering fanboyitis, I just dont think there is anything wrong with fun- especially when its this pretty....

Posted by: short4astormtrooper at April 18, 2008 2:53 AM

Are you suggesting that this comic book somehow is less coherent and logical than every other comic book? Really?

Does a millionaire who dresses like a small flying rodent during the night and broods during the day and bonds with a tween make any sense?

They are fun cause they are silly.

Posted by: Haystacks at April 18, 2008 2:54 AM

Uh...have you ever actually read a comic book? The vast majority of them, well, at least the capes and tights comics, have a shit load of incredibly stupid leaps in logic, non-sensical semi-scientific explanations, cheesy one-liners, and lots of pretty pictures, with people looking cool fighting.

That's why we like them. And Hellboy is all those things. And Ron Perlman is badass.

Posted by: Rob at April 18, 2008 2:58 AM

How dare you, Dustin.

How Dare you.

Posted by: Andre at April 18, 2008 3:01 AM

Rasputin? A demon boy? Nazis? Portals? Everlasting life? Baby Ruth candy bars

See, that's what I consider one of the strengths of the Hellboy comics. Why should you settle for just Nazis when you can have them *plus* Lovecraftian horrors and undead Russian sorcerers? Example: Raiders of the Lost Ark had Nazis, head-melting ghosts, lots of snakes, an evil monkey, angry natives, drinking contests, and a giant boulder. Kindly explain why this makes it a bad film.

I'll admit that as a fan of the comics, I do get extra enjoyment of seeing the characters on the big screen, but take that away and this would still be plenty enjoyable. Does Hellboy have problems. Of course. But quite frankly, I'd rather rewatch this than most comic book films. Daredevil, either Fantastic Four, Elektra, any Superman movie, X-Men 3, Spider-Man 3, Hulk, Ghost Rider, Steel...

Posted by: Master Mahan at April 18, 2008 4:25 AM

Oh, crap on a cracker. You want to talk about a bad comic book film, how about Superman Returns?

Okay, so this is a sequel to Superman 2, right? But, we get his origin story retold and crammed into this shitball of a movie anyway. Nobody notices Clark gone for five years, and Lois is 22. That's important. She's twenty fucking two.

Superman fights a lot of stupid bad guys who do dumb shit like shoot at him when that's never, ever, ever worked. He also doesn't seem to care much about where those bullets go whizzing off to. He fights an over-the-top Lex Luthor who is trying to kill him and make off with...a real estate scheme. The fuck..? Completely wasted Parker Posey too, by the way. She'd have been a great Lois Lane.

So, skip a bunch of stupid boring shit (why use a Kryptonite knife and not Kryptonite bullets? he'll just stand there thinking they're the regular bullets and die.) and get right to the end. There's Lois's baby. Aww... HE'S GOT SUPER FUCKING POWERS!

So, that means that five years into the past, Superman made the super beast with two backs with Lois Lane and made a baby thing. What's 22 minus 5, kids?

17 motherfucking, super-roofy-dropping 17. Brian fucking Singer made Superman into a date raping pederast.

Nicely done fuckstain, nicely done.

Posted by: Spork at April 18, 2008 6:45 AM

Where does it say Lois is 22?

Posted by: Jay at April 18, 2008 7:17 AM

Dustin, I don't wanna be a grammar nazi here, but I think it's one AND the same.

Posted by: Cathy at April 18, 2008 8:19 AM

Or do you just mean Kate Bosworth was 22? Ferris Bueller was 24, shit happens, I don't know what to tell ya.

"Superman Returns" gave me a wonderful and an awful moment. I went to see "Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire" on its opening night, went straight from work and it was a little after 7. The family show. I'm down in the middle of the fifth or so row in a sea of kids, and this is very pleasing. The "King Kong" trailer came on and the girl next to me is loving it, which i'm loving. I'm soaking it up. Then the WB shield comes up and she says "oh, it's starting" and I say "not yet, I think this is Superman" and she does that agape whisper where your eyes go big and you jut your neck forward, "Superman!!"

I thought "goddamn right"

One of the most affecting trailers I've ever seen, too, if you've any love for the character or previous movies. Any my goodwill is just too big, so of course I liked the movie (didn't mind that he didn't punch anything or anybody--apparently that was a real problem), just like the citizens of Metropolis liked having him back. I like my momentous figures of nobility, okay?

So I go see Harry again a week or two later, the audience seems enthused about "The Ant Bully" trailer, complete with "bugs in my crotch" joke. The Superman trailer comes on and the S shield appears and when it ends the languid woman a couple of rows ahead mutters ".....hm". I really missed that little girl.

Posted by: Jay at April 18, 2008 9:12 AM

woohoo! I totally agree with the Hellboy assessment. It was a mindless action movie that was mildly entertaining only because of the great Ron Pearlman.

Oh an Spork is right on the money, Superman Returns was beyond awful.

Posted by: Chris at April 18, 2008 9:22 AM

So, I saw this many moons ago, when as an unlucky sprout I needed to get my wisdom teeth out. This is a bitch, make no mistake.
After the nurses finally got the anesthetic/knockout-y stuff drip in my arm, on the tenth try (not a joke. Bitches.) I sswiftly fell into a drug induced stupor.
Turns out I don't react well to general anesthetic. My face barely swelled, but my hand where the needle went in was about the size of my head when I woke up. Also, a narcoleptic had a better chance of staying awake than I did. For three days after the surgery, I was in and out of consciousness, more often than not out.
On the third day, however, I managed to stay awake for over three hours straight (hey, it was a serious accomplishment). As a reward, my mother, who was making sure I didn't die from my massive freak hand, still the size of a grapefruit and a lovely mix of puce and purple, because it was obviously going to smother me or go on a murder rampage or something, got me a movie from the local video store.
Being a wee lil' geeklet, I asked for Hellboy. She complied, an ultimate sign of love from my anti-fantasy-comic-book-hippie-etc. mother.
While watching, I notice an astonishing fact. The movie makes absolutely no damn sense. For the first half, I'm content to believe it's just due to hallucinatory side effects, which had been intermittent the previous days. Side note: hallucinations make Maid in Manhattan a HELL of a lot more fun. Ralph Fiennes, dog ears. Good times.
Finally though, I have to ask.
"Mom? Is it the drugs, or does this movie not make sense?"
"It's...not the drugs."
Good times, good times.

Posted by: Terrible Confusion at April 18, 2008 10:40 AM

Way to go. You've angered the nerds. Now we're all doomed. Doomed I tells ya!

Hellboy was visually great, and I had no problem with the whole supernatural/nazi/russian/demon world plot but it just seemed like they tried to cram 10 pounds of shit into a 5 pound bag.

Posted by: Dave at April 18, 2008 10:44 AM

Oh, bawwww more, Dustin. Was somebody too much of a loser in school for even the D&D crowd?

Also, I have touched boobies many, many times; I own a pair.

Posted by: Cuno at April 18, 2008 1:24 PM

You sir, are a dickless moron. The reason for this is that you complain about this film without explaining how a plot about Nazis, the Devil, Random Shit and Goth colours is actually bad. Is it bad? Maybe. Alright, THESIS; HELLBOY is BAD. Now prove it. Compare it to something. ANYTHING. I'd watch this over Spiderman 3 any day. WHY? Because Hellboy is original. It's never been done before in that way. Spiderman is a CGI cartoon. Hellboy is a big money attempt and art for big money.
I used to like your articles but now I find you can't even find pleasure in a "bad" movie. I see how ignorant you really are.

Posted by: Glucosamine at April 18, 2008 1:33 PM

You need to stop using the word "porn" to describe movies. Oh yea, and "starletard". I FUCKING HATE THAT WORD.

Posted by: Mike at April 18, 2008 5:06 PM

People on this site that come here enough to give a shit, answer me this... is this the same pretentious bitch that gets a five-inch erection for every boring Wes Anderson or "indie" teen movie with a sad, smart protagonist in love with a sad, smart, skinny beautiful girl? Or boy, in Juno's case?

We all have our genres, even you. Dustin, kindly go fuck yourself.

Posted by: I Am The Greatest at April 18, 2008 7:11 PM

I couldn't agree more.

Is it "one in the same" or "one and the same"?

Posted by: amanda at April 18, 2008 8:22 PM

I have to agree with you I Am The Greatest. This is the first time I've felt inclined to comment here, and I hated Hellboy, but I too would like Dustin to go fuck himself.

Posted by: Geoffrey at April 18, 2008 9:39 PM

Helloooo, League of Extraordinary Gentlemen.

Now that's a movie that really gave the finger to the books.

Agreed, but a great nominee for hangover theatre. Or, of course, the waking-up-still-drunk-enough-to-actually-enjoy-this-steaming-pile theatre.

Posted by: Jaci at April 18, 2008 10:31 PM

sorry, i'm going to lose it if i see the following spelling mistake one more time: it's "role", people, not "roll"!

Posted by: dora at April 19, 2008 6:30 AM

I don't mind if someone is going to tell people that they don't like a movie. I don't mind if someone is going to criticize someone else's tastes.

But when it's done poorly or with as little tact as you have displayed here... Opening up with sweeping (and insulting) generalizations of those who do love the movie... Then you're going to get rightfully labeled a mean-spirited jacktard.

Also, I watched the movie once and understood every single plot point. I was never lost or confused. No, it's not a sweeping masterpiece, it's just a fun film with some hammy performances and heartfelt moments. I don't see why someone allegedly 'smarter' or with 'better taste' than me couldn't follow along.

Posted by: spideychris at April 19, 2008 8:53 AM

Being a 30 year old female.... I had never heard of the Hellboy comic before the movie came out. I only saw the movie after it came out on dvd. But I loved it. It was entertaining and Hellboy became my new wierd crush. Can't wait till the 2nd one comes out.

Posted by: SpongeMunkie at April 19, 2008 2:20 PM

i'm a drooling fan of the hellboy comics, but nearly puked out my innards upon seeing the movie.
the movie doesn't properly capture the dark humor and darker majesty of the comics and reduces it all to cheesy one-liners and general awfulness (how pitiful was that scene when hellboy follows liz and that dopey guy on a coffee date?)
fans who enjoyed the movie seriously need to hang up their fan badges.

Posted by: geni at April 20, 2008 2:36 AM

Yessss. This movie was terrible. ts one of those movies soo grandiose in its terribleness that the idea that somebody, anybody, could like it, completely genuinely bewilders me to the point where my heart rate quickens and my eyes pop.

My hatred/frustration/agitation with this movie hit an absolute FEVER PITCH when Hellboy is distracted from his mission of saving the universe or whatever to save a box of kitens from some dumb street vendor lady in the subway. The movie could have only redeemed himself if Hellboy had said, "These kittens?" and dropkicked the whole box of kittens all over the subway station. That thought keeps me warm at night.

Posted by: Shai at April 20, 2008 2:52 AM

fans who enjoyed the movie seriously need to hang up their fan badges.

Now now, are you inciting fan-on-fan violence? Where will your incendiary schisming take us?? Shame on you, Judge Geni.

Posted by: Jay at April 20, 2008 3:01 AM

That would include Hellboy creator, Mike Mignola, geni.

Posted by: Spork at April 20, 2008 9:14 AM

Roger Ebert hates Fight Club? I always knew he was a pompous old goat. And this is completely a Hangover Theatre movie. I mean, I've read the comics, and I liked it, but it's perfect for those periods of time when you just really don't have the attention span or stamina to understand anything except "Nuhhh. Water. Now. Greasy, overly-meated pizza. Fuck. Doorbell."

Posted by: Captain Steve at April 20, 2008 1:51 PM

It makes sense in a Mignola way, but I guess not in any other way.

Posted by: chenry at April 21, 2008 11:13 AM

You were confused by hellboy? damn was wizard of oz confusing too? wait are they in kansas? in oz? a witch? two witches? my brain!!!

no more talking from you

Posted by: dr. m. at April 21, 2008 8:40 PM

Dustin,

I usually agree with you on your reviews of almost every film, however, i'm going to disagree with you here. For me, Hellboy's appeal comes from the absolute ridiculousness of the plot. Nazis, check. Secret government agencies, check. Rasputin, check. Demons, check. Selma Blair and JEFFERY TAMBOR, check. I mean maybe I only like it because i was a russian history major who once had a crush on selma blair and who knows better than to believe in secret government agencies but kind of wishes they existed anyway...So yeah, hellboy rocks, for me at least. Finally, don't you dare compare it to Michael Bay's poof. First, the movie's explosions were at least well done. Second, even in a ludicrous fake history comic book world setting, del toro does a better job of depicting relationships, violence, and history. Third, Michael fucking Bay references should only be made if a movie should never ever be watched again. It is the a-bomb of movie criticism, please only use it when such a movie deserves it. We all know of course that Philip Roth is the hydrogen bomb of movie insults......

Posted by: bob patterson at April 22, 2008 10:38 AM

Dustin, I'm sorry. I'm going to have to completely disagree. This movie isn't bad ( I won't say it's amazing either, but it certainly wasn't bad). But all the things you point as being over the top? That's Hellboy, smartypants. Just because you don't understand all the crap going on (and there is much going on, what with ALL the monsters and folkloric beliefs being real) doesn't mean its bad. It means you just don't get it, and it means you haven't read the comic books themselves.

I can only hope that this is sarcasm, as some of the points you make seem a bit...how shall we say, underformed?

Posted by: Bob at April 23, 2008 11:07 AM

"...Hellboy is a fucking cinematic monstrosity, an irredeemable mess of a film that should be excised from Guillermo Del Toro's resume. It is vile nonsense, stylistically rendered in Goth colors and ludicrous costumes to trick your eyes into believing you're seeing something worthwhile. It is not..."


Well Dustin...You're wrong, and very harsh on HB, which on the contrary is actually very underated.

Posted by: Jay at April 29, 2008 1:14 PM

I truly appreciate such a gracious manner of accepting my apology, Ranylt. But I feel that I should explain at least one or two guidelines for what makes an "Overappreciated Gem". I would hate to see Dustin get a textual beatdown for unclear reasons. Guideline 1: The movie in question must have critical praise in the positive. It doesn't have to be a "Blockbuster" hit. Guideline 2: It may qualify as an "Overappreciated Gem" if you feel that it has an undeserved cult status. Basically any movie that is discussed as if it is a total classic, but that you feel is trash. I don't mean to tell you guys how to run things. I think you guys are great. I just want to explain what I meant by the term. Keep up the good work, and thanks again.

Posted by: B-rant at May 14, 2008 8:19 PM