The Daily Trade Round-Up / Dustin Rowles
It’s one of those weeks again where the best trade news involves mostly speculation and conjecture, but we’re not above fanning the flames if it means filling some space. And, first up are reports (originating at Bloody-Disgusting) that New Line Cinema is talking another Nightmare on Elm Street flick. This one will neither pair Freddy Krueger with Jason Voorhies again (good!) nor explore the origins of the character (shame). In fact, the whole thing is still in the “idea stage,” so I’ll offer up my own idea, New Line: Kill it. Don’t let it move past the idea stage. You can’t sink any lower than Freddy vs. Jason (unless you manage a Freddy vs. Toxic Avenger flick) and you can’t outdo the original. So there’s nothing to be gained by another sequel except to further dilute the franchise’s value. Wait at least until 2013, after the memory of all seven sequels has mostly subsided, and then consider an origins story. Maybe Christian Bale can help you reinvigorate the franchise; he seems to thrive on the challenges, and if he can salvage Freddy Krueger, he’ll get Pajiba’s very first lifetime achievement award.
In other sequel news, Richard Matheson has sold the sequel rights to I Am Legend, and though nothing is set in stone, I’m guessing that — given the eventual $300 million box-office take — a Legend sequel is all but inevitable. And because sequels have to be bigger and better, I’m not sure how you beat the original — how can you destroy the Earth’s population again? Maybe the idea in the sequel is to kill two dogs instead of one, and maybe Will Smith can come back as one of those zombie monsters, though (*spoiler*) he’d have to be spectacularly charred given the way the original movie ended. (*end spoiler*) Also, in sequel news, one of our unseen gems from 2007, The Host, is getting the prequel treatment. It will take place three years earlier, after the excavation of the ancient Cheonggye Stream in Seoul, and this one will feature even more monsters. Oooh. Oooh. Here’s an idea: Roll Freddy Krueger and I Am Legend’s Dark Seekers into the mix, and we can take care of three sequels with one stone. Better still, it’s just one movie I don’t have to see, instead of three.
This here’s an interesting item: Phillip Seymour Hoffman and Viggo Mortenson are in talks to star together in the buddy cannibalism epicâ„¢, Vanikoro, the true story about two ships that wrecked in the Vanikoro islands in the late 18th century. The survivors of a second ship salvaged enough from the ships to build a small ship and sail away, but two crew members (presumably played by Phillip and Viggo) were left behind to fend off tribal cannibals until the early 1800s. Cool premise. Awesome actors. But Xavier Gens is attached to direct, and while the stylism of his Hitman looked kind of cool, I’m not sure we’re ready for a video-game movie director to direct two of the finer actors of this generation (anti-Hoffmanites, lay off). Whatever: You can hardly beat a good buddy cannibalistic epic, so I’m tentatively excited.
But this, actually, gets the award for sweet premise of the week: A dark comedy about a woman who is too nice to dump her boyfriend, so instead she kills him. And, after it works once, she tries it again. The premise, based on Jen Sacks’ novel, in and of itself — a goody-goody who resorts to murder — is pretty stellar, but the casting is pitch perfect: Reese Witherspoon will produce and star. I’m kind of indifferent to Witherspoon in general, but I like this career move. There are so very few good villainesses, so I’m excited about the prospect of seeing Reese Witherspoon: Serial killer.
I’ve been waiting for nearly a week now to unleash the trailer for the Prom Night remake: For a movie that boasts Brittany Snow as its lead actress, I’m strangely excited about it, and it’s not just the moody “Time After Time” remake in the trailer, or the chance that it might be the closest we get in 2008 to Final Destination-like craptasm. No: Two words, folks. Two words to explain why I’m so weirdly stoked about Prom Night: Stringer. Bell.
Oh, it’s gonna suck. And I can’t wait. You feelin’ me, Slim?
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Comments
I haven't seen Hitman (despite my love of the Olyphant), so I can't judge the director, but my GOD the casting and premise of Vanikoro sounds balls out awesome.
Posted by: Julie at January 8, 2008 2:50 PM
That was truly, TRULY the WORST version of "Time After Time" I have ever had the displeasure of hearing!
Jeez, even the grating of the screamers were halfway soothing after that whiny shit. gah.
Posted by: boo at January 8, 2008 2:53 PM
I still can't watch any of the Nightmare on Elm Street films, even though Dokken was all over the airwaves when I was a kid and you seriously had to hide under a rock to avoid the Freddie Kreuger imagery that was everyfuckingwhere. I think my fears of Freddie have contributed greatly to my still not being able to fall asleep alone without jerking my eyelids open at least a dozen times.
Posted by: Kolby at January 8, 2008 2:56 PM
A sequel to I Am... AWWWWWWWWWW HELLLLLL NAAAAAAWWWWWW.
I TOLD you people this would happen. An let me just say, for the record, that THAT is the worst idea since Porkins agreed to cover Red 3.
Posted by: BarbadoSlim at January 8, 2008 3:00 PM
I Was Legend? I Am Still Legend? I Am Legend Again? OOOOO!!! I Am Legend of Bagger Vance??? I dunno...
And new bond girls is hot. Classic face n figure. Kudos to the Bondos for choosing someone not shaped like a twig with 2 berries, with some art on her arm, and a rack that would choke a whale. I hope she wears leather. Any bets on another sequence with Danny Craig sitting in a chair while she hits him in the balls...but this time he has to reply with everything ending in '...ma'am' or 'mistress?' That would be rad.
Posted by: PissBoy at January 8, 2008 3:01 PM
It's ok Kolby. If it makes you feel any better I can't fall asleep with somoene tickling my asshole with a feather while I lick her foot. Otherwise I wet the bed. Yeah...sleepovers were awkward as a child.
Posted by: P{issBoy at January 8, 2008 3:04 PM
Please oh please oh please keep the same vibe as the last Bond film. Have they had an "Absolut Bond" ad ever? Vodka bottle shaped like a Walther PPK, female silhouette adjacent? That would be cool. What were we talking about?
Vanikoro sounds great.
Posted by: socalledonlycousins at January 8, 2008 3:08 PM
Stringer Bell? Jason Street? Cheesy teenage horror flick? Sadly, I know myself, and I know I am so in on opening weekend. It's a sickness.
Posted by: Carrie at January 8, 2008 3:12 PM
That role sounds absolutely perfect for Reese. Although I'm quasi-in-love with her, so I'd watch her work crossword puzzles and call it a fun afternoon. But I think she has a little bit of man-killer psycho-chick in her.
Posted by: tt_marie at January 8, 2008 3:13 PM
I agree that Christian Bale resuscitating Nightmare on Elm Street would be awesome (as long as Robert Englund is still Freddy and especially if they can work in a Johnny Depp cameo). And not that I'm a nerd for horror movies or anything (I just live with one) you have now put "Dream Warriors" in my head with the reference to Nightmare sequels. ("We're the dream warriors/Don't wanna dream no more/Dream warriors...Maybe tonight, maybe tonight you'll be gone!") So thanks for that.
Posted by: s. pisaster at January 8, 2008 3:14 PM
I got so excited about the thought of a movie about cannibalism based on an 18th century shipping story because I was sure that it would be based on the famous case of Dudley vs. Stevens in which five members of a shipwreck found themselves alone in a small lifeboat and after many days elected to eat the just-about-dead cabin boy to stay alive. There was another ship not too far away and as it happened they were rescued the next day. The Privy Council ruled it a murder because given that they were rescued the next day, they were not in danger of imminent death when they decided to eat the cabin boy (despite the fact that they couldn't have known this). Anyways, that's about all I remember from Law School (and that's not much good in today's world so I've had to eke out a different career) but I've always wanted to see it turned into a good dramatic movie.
Also, you're clearly deliberately baiting the beastophiles with the constant references to the dead dog in I Am Legend. Have you been taking lessions from Barbado (Walmart) Slim?
Posted by: PaddyDog at January 8, 2008 3:15 PM
Two things:
1. Youtube is blocked at my office (stupid government). Is the Time After Time cover the Eva Cassidy song? Anyone?
2. Um... Look. I don't know how to say this. I know I risk damaging my reput-- HA. OK, scratch that. OK, I'm just gonna say it.
ikindalikedfreddyvsjason.
There. I said it. Fuck all of you.
Posted by: TK at January 8, 2008 3:16 PM
I would actually really want to see a prequel to I Am Legend. Richard Matheson goes way more into detail on how the infection spread and what happened to Robert Neville's family and friends in the book. The movie barely touches on it. And for the sake of the Will Smith remake that worked. But a sequel???...God. Spare us.
As for Reese playing a serial killer? That makes me all sorts of happy.
Posted by: Drea at January 8, 2008 3:17 PM
No sequel is impossible in Hollywood. These are the people who gave you Weekend at Bernies 2. And the most unbelievable thing about that was that there actually was a Weekend at Bernies 1.
Posted by: PaddyDog at January 8, 2008 3:20 PM
TK...I'm with you. i enjoyed it. Something about it was for damn sure better than any of the other horror shit that's been released over the last 5 years. It was fast paced. Fun. Enjoyable. And did EVERYTHING fans of the two original movies and maybe 1 or 2 or the sequels each would have wanted to see.
Posted by: PissBoy at January 8, 2008 3:22 PM
TK, dude, I don't know WHO the fuck it is (sounds like a whiny boy band to me...) but it is viral.
Jesus, man. Keep that shit to yourself. Seriously.
Posted by: boo at January 8, 2008 3:24 PM
A Nightmare on Elm Street origins movie sounds good, but only if directed by a Nolan or even Rob Zombie. I know there's not a lot of love for Zombie here, but I think Devil's Rejects was a great flick, and had a cool 70's look and feel to it, which would work for a new Freddy movie. And I can actually see Bale as Freddy. It can't be worse than Terminator, can it? It can?
Oh well.
Actually, an origins story has already been done. It was the first episode of the "Freddy's Nightmares" series and was directed by Tobe Hooper. It wasn't accurate compared to the movie, but it was fun to see a version of how Freddy became who he was.
Posted by: SR at January 8, 2008 3:24 PM
"...ikindalikedfreddyvsjason..."
*jaw drops*
I think it would be best, if you, took a walk, for a while.
Posted by: BarbadoSlim at January 8, 2008 3:25 PM
TK: I'll take a moment to leave my shame spiral to add that I kind of liked FvJ too. Guh.
When I'm in a bad mood I watch horror movies, quality be damned. Last weekend was my grandfather's funeral and how did I cope? A bottle of cabernet, take out Thai food, and the despicable Halloween remake...because no matter what is going on in my life, at least I'm not getting stabbed in the face.
Posted by: Julie at January 8, 2008 3:26 PM
Oh, Reese playing a goody-goody turned serial killer is so natural. Everyone knows that's what would have happened to Tracy Flick, had she lost the election.
I also kinda wanna see "Prom Night". Something about teenagers (although, I think the guy in the trailer is from "Friday Night Lights" and definitely does not pass for 18) screaming in formal wear just makes me all warm and fuzzy inside.
Posted by: em at January 8, 2008 3:26 PM
Oh, nooo PissBoy and Julie TOO?
Seriously, you people are sick, Sick, SICK!
Posted by: BarbadoSlim at January 8, 2008 3:30 PM
Boo, then it's DEFINITELY not Eva Cassidey, who is a) a woman and b) has a lovely voice. (See, I AM fucking hardcore).
And B-Slim... some people have no appreciation for pulp, I tell ya. I mean, that was good, quality horror fun right there. I mean, when you consider all the downright shitty movies that try to take themselves seriously, like, say, Reign of Fire... well, Freddy Vs. Jason was a breath of fresh air.
Posted by: TK at January 8, 2008 3:36 PM
Oh but B-Slim, it was so gloriously STUPID. Freddy had his arms chopped off...and they grew back! Just like crabs! CRABS!
Posted by: Julie at January 8, 2008 3:37 PM
I too firmly believing in the healing power of horror. Before he became Mr. Pink, my husband dumped me when we dated in college (didn't last, of course), and that night, to soothe my aching heart and pride, I ate a buttload of ice cream, drank beer, and watched the original "Halloween" and "Carrie" back to back. In the morning, I felt so much better. Aaaaaaah.
Reese as a serial killer? So believable. It's not a far stretch from her "Election" character.
Posted by: Alabamapink at January 8, 2008 3:37 PM
Hate. Reese. Witherspoon. Hate.
That trailer looks bad...very bad. I didn't watch all of it though. Got bored 10 seconds in. Uh...silly question here: why is it that in most American films, the couples are always the same race? I mean...I get the historical reason, but can the American public really not handle mixed race couples? Or does it mirror the American society in general? My knowledge of the U.S. is from the media, so...I really don't know the reality.
Posted by: joker at January 8, 2008 3:38 PM
TK, buddy.
You are the only person I (kinda) know that could refer to Freddy v. Jason as "a breath of fresh air." That's like saying Jenna Jameson, compared to some porn stars, might be considered a virgin.
Posted by: boo at January 8, 2008 3:40 PM
In regards to the idealization of Prom Night (and I'm just speaking in general, yes I know that "Prom Night" is a horror movie, but it got me thinking): anyone else go to Prom with someone they barely knew but that was okay because they ended up going home somewhere else? And did anyone else have a tacky balloon arch done in your high school's colors to pose in front of? Oh, and when I have kids they had better never ask me to get their hair professionally done, rent a limo, and buy a really expensive outfit for Prom because "It's the time of our lives!"
Posted by: Betty at January 8, 2008 3:40 PM
Alabamapink-there's something about watching people being hacked to pieces that puts your own troubles in perspective. My friends know me too well...when my dog died my senior year of college, they went from room to room asking people for horror movies. I proceeded to eat an entire bag of Dove chocolates, drink a bottle of, ahem, Blackberry Arbor Mist (shut. up.) while watching Slumber Party Massacre IV. Good times.
Posted by: Julie at January 8, 2008 3:43 PM
TK...Julie, any bona-fide pulp fan knows the money is on Jason X. Heh, Lexa Doig, Lisa Ryder hell, even motherfucking David Cronenberg was all up on that bitch.
Posted by: BarbadoSlim at January 8, 2008 3:43 PM
Oh, and Joker, my Prom date wasn't my race. I would say that of the couples that I know about 1/4 are mixed race, but in general in the U.S. it depends on the percentage of mixed race couples echoes how multi-cultural the areas are (i.e. upper class white neighborhoods aren't going to have as many mixed race couples as a neighborhood that is less bland).
Posted by: Betty at January 8, 2008 3:44 PM
B-Slim, is that the one where Jason shoves the girl's head into the liquid nitrogen and then smashes her face? That was TREMENDOUS.
Posted by: Julie at January 8, 2008 3:45 PM
Julie: you'd be correct madam.
Posted by: BarbadoSlim at January 8, 2008 3:48 PM
Blackberry Arbor Mist? Bloody Hell, don't we serve that to convicts at Gitmo when sending them into the hole just isn't cruel enough?
B-Slim. OK. I can dig that. I got some love for Jason X.
And joker, everyone knows that mixed race relationships are against the law of God.
Posted by: TK at January 8, 2008 3:49 PM
Yes yes yes. That liquid nitrogen scene was extremely tremendous. Well put. I don't need a death or a traumatic event to whip out the horror movies. Births, graduations, weddings, lunch time, Tuesdays...
Posted by: Drea at January 8, 2008 3:50 PM
In my (shoddy) defense, I was a 21 year-old college student who didn't know any better. At least it wasn't Shaun Mondavi's Reddish-Style Wine Drink. Heh.
Posted by: Julie at January 8, 2008 3:52 PM
Joker: Have you noticed that there are no commercials on US TV with mixed race couples either? The only show that has even dared to try mess with mixed race is Scrubs: JD dated a Black woman for a few episodes and also Turk and Carla are a mixed race couple (he's Black, she's Dominican Hispanic). I suspect the networks couldn't handle the fallout from advertisers in most of the more southerly states. But then again, Obam might just be on the cusp of making "Halfrican Americanism" trendy so watch this space.
Posted by: PaddyDog at January 8, 2008 3:55 PM
Ooooh I think Prom Night just might be my movie heaven* I will have to watch it. Of course I won't actually pay to see it you understand... I do so love bad horror films featureing pretty teenagers.
From the trailer alone one really must wonder though: if the killer wasn't going to stop until he got her why then did her fellow teens not band together, hunt her down and offer her as a sacrifice. I think it probably would have been much more efficient: both bodycount and timewise.
I like the sound of the Reese Witherspoon film, like many others have already stated: the role suits her perfectly.
*caveat: if incredibly drunk/high
Posted by: Alex the Odd at January 8, 2008 4:01 PM
Ahoy, spoilers ahead:
I don't think a sequel to I am Legend would be all that bad if done right.
Didn't whathisname stay in New York because he pledged to find a cure (and with what happened to his wife and kid, what did he have going for him anyway?). And...at first he thought that the Dark Seekers were just like animals, but come to find out that the Dark Seekers could lay traps and hunt. So, in the final scene when he is pleading with them to stop attacking the glass and says "I can cure you!" wasn't it a bit heartbreaking that the Dark Seekers didn't give a rat's behind about being cured.
Anyway, my point is perhaps the sequel could be based on trying to spread the cure, but the Dark Seekers don't care to be cured. Oohh, and the british actress who started the whole process could return and make it her mission to see that a cure is forced on these people.
Just my ideas. But listen, I don't write these thoughts well and prefer to talk with my hands and interupt people. Maybe someone with a bit more talent could run with this. And then send me a check.
Posted by: Schrute Buck at January 8, 2008 4:03 PM
TK, the cover of "Time After Time" is by Quietdrive, your basic wannabe-rockers boy band. Still, I like their version. Then again, I can't stand Cyndi Lauper.
Posted by: Nika at January 8, 2008 4:04 PM
"..Have you noticed that there are no commercials on US TV with mixed race couples either? The only show that has even dared to try mess with mixed race is Scrubs.."
Funny you mention that, it reminds of every movie Wesley Snipes made after Jungle Fever, they'd always hook him up with an Asian chick, and Night Court where "Mac" got hooked up with "Qoun Lee"
::eye roll::
Posted by: BarbadoSlim at January 8, 2008 4:15 PM
That cover of "Time After Time" may have been the single worst cover I have ever heard (and I've heard Avril Lavigne try to cover System of a Down)
Posted by: Shadows of Dakaron at January 8, 2008 4:16 PM
Good God, why did I watch that trailer? I cannot for the life of me get "Time after time" out of my head. I watched it over an hour ago! And I'm also stuck with the imagery of Cyndi Lauper sitting on a train with a tear streaming down her cheek and those damned mesh fingerless gloves. Talk about nightmares..
Posted by: LZ at January 8, 2008 4:19 PM
Hey Schrute: That "British actress who started the whole process" was Emma Thompson. She's been around for a little while.
Posted by: Alabamapink at January 8, 2008 4:23 PM
Oh, come on. Like Freddy vs. Predator has never crossed your mind?
Posted by: Gabrielle at January 8, 2008 4:29 PM
Gabrielle... SHUT UP. Someone might hear you!
And I highly recommend looking up the Cassidy cover of Time After Time... it's actually quite beautiful.
Regarding mixed race on film... despite it being against God's law and obviously a Communist idea... you'll notice that most mixed race couples are non-white couples. Black and hispanic, or black and Indian, or some other bullshit. Wouldn't want to make the lovely whitefolk nervous. Yes, it pisses me off.
Or, it would. If it weren't so wrong. Because race-mixing is EVIL. EVIL, I TELL YOU.
Posted by: TK at January 8, 2008 4:46 PM
OK, in what parallel universe do these proms exist? We danced in the high school cafeteria with a shitty DJ and a crepe paper canopy strung between false walls made of paper or canvas or something. You spent 80 percent of your time in line for pictures, and the rest of the time wondering why this thing has to be so goddamn boring. But I KNOW my prom was never conveniently located in a hotel where I could book a room to have sex with my sweetheart between bouts of dancing to a live band on a lighted floor. You know what, though, I'll probably get shitfaced drunk and go watch that movie, because then it'll be hilarious. Woohoo!
Posted by: Cady at January 8, 2008 4:53 PM
PaddyDog - aaah, I remember that case. It has been one of the more useful things I learned in law school, as I enjoy whipping it out at cocktail parties. It makes for a good story. There SHOULD be a movie about it - about the trial - and it could include creepy flashbacks. Get a man on that!
Posted by: tt_marie at January 8, 2008 4:58 PM
TK, it's interesting you say that because I've noticed that when they mix races, it's usually other than white. Or when they do mix with white it's usually with "light skinned" hispanics or some other non-offensively-dark skin tone. I suppose it's to minimise the shock this would inflict to uhm...whoever. Oh well, so I'm not imagining things then. I would imagine that in reality it's more like Betty says, but I guess Hollywood is too chickenshit to portray that.
Posted by: joker at January 8, 2008 5:32 PM
"Heroes" had a mixed race couple until they killed him off.....
Posted by: nancy at January 8, 2008 6:01 PM
No one watches Heroes? D.L. (definitely black) & Niki Sanders (white and blonde). They even have a kid together, Micah.
Posted by: QueBarbara at January 8, 2008 6:06 PM
I like me some really bad teenage horror movie. Flip it, I actually love Horror movies. From Valentine to Rosemary's Baby. I'll watch 'em all. I know i'll be seeing that one no matter how predictable it is.
On the mixed race issue. It matters to a level. I remember seeing Cinderella(the brandy-whitney version)and for fucks sakes the Asian prince had a black mum and white dad. I think they experimented there for a moment but I just couldn't get over it to enjoy the movie. Dont get me wrong I think mixed race people are quite undeniably beautiful. eg. Halle Berry, Alicia Keys, my cousins etc. But somehow on film one can't get over it.
Posted by: Jean at January 8, 2008 6:25 PM
Only other high profile mixed couple was on the North & South miniseries (remember network mini-series!) It involved Kirstie Allie's character who was like, "radical gal" Abe Lincoln style, and she married a really dark skinned ex-slave named....mmmm Grady, I think.
Why do I remember this, 'cause Kirstie was smokin' hot in them costumes.
Posted by: BarbadoSlim at January 8, 2008 6:26 PM
tt_marie: Yea! You remember Dudley vs. Stevens. I can pretty much remember all the really quirky cases and some of the really arcane stuff such as the Law Against Perpetuities, but ask me to tell you anything remotely useful and it's a complete blank.
On the race thing, I forgot about the couple on Heroes, probably because I've spent the past season trying to forget about the good show Heroes used to be.
Posted by: PaddyDog at January 8, 2008 6:57 PM
a Legend sequel is all but inevitable.
Wait what?
Ow, brain damage. Definitely brain damage.
Posted by: twig at January 8, 2008 7:01 PM
I must have missed something - how did this turn into a conversation about dating people of a race different than yours? I'l have to go and re-read.
Anyway I can't add anything to the discussion about Freddy vs. Jason, because I have never and will never see that movie. A girl needs her beauty sleep, y'all.
TK - which government do you work for? I knew we had something depressing in common.
Posted by: Kolby at January 8, 2008 7:03 PM
That emo cover of Time After Time was not the worst I have ever heard (the worst would be Bing Crosby's cover of Hey Jude; seriously, youtube it if horror movies are your thing); however, it came pretty damn close. [See how I tied the two themes in this thread together?] Oh! That was the other thread. This is the prom thread? Then, I have nothing to add because I didn't go since my date who had already said yes cancelled at the last minute "because her Mom had a hysterectomy". *Nevermind*
Posted by: rudy at January 8, 2008 8:42 PM
Jason X is absolutely hilarious, I don't care what anyone says.
Freddy vs. Jason is just meh.
Posted by: The Stew at January 8, 2008 8:45 PM
I'm surprised they aren't following the April Fool's Day remake path and sending the Prom Night remake straight to DVD.
It was a sad day for genre fans when the new NOES was shifted from prequel to possible remake, so the fact that it's now a sequel (taking audience suggestions - I recommend Paris Hilton appear and die a spectacular death, the best kind of part for her) is a slight relief. Though rumors have been going around that Robert Englund might not be offered the Freddy role again, so boo.
At least it's not a hybrid remake/sequel like Friday the 13th. Small victories, I guess.
But every true fan knows NOES peaked with The Dream Warriors. We don't need another sequel, thank you.
I liked the direction in Hitman. It was one of the only things I liked. The Vanikoro film has potential, for sure.
Posted by: Robert at January 8, 2008 8:58 PM
I have a soft spot for Brittany Snow, because she seems adorable and nice and really down-to-earth, and also 'American Dreams' was fabulous. I'm totally down for her in a 'Prom Night' remake, although I think it's time for Scott Porter to stop playing teenage roles. He just looks way too old.
Also, I think Reese will pull off the good-girl-turned-murderer part easily. I'm really looking forward to it, actually.
Posted by: Mimi at January 8, 2008 9:07 PM
Robert - I'm so glad you gave a shout out to dream warriors too. Except now I have the song in my head again. My freak SO actually has an mp3 of it.
Posted by: s. pisaster at January 8, 2008 9:38 PM
Ohhh, Jason X. Show me a better death scene than when Jason puts a girl's head into liquid nitrogen then smashes her face into a table. Amaaaazing.
I feel sad about this Prom Night remake. It's such a wonderful movie, and that trailer looks like mindless glossy garbage. Which is fine, but... make your own movie, then. It always bums me out when teenagers see these remakes, have no idea there's an original at all, and then their opinion of the story is based on the stupid remake. I do think an "origins" remake can be a really good idea, though. I totally dug the Black Christmas remake despite its many flaws (like casting Oliver Hudson, ewww) because I thought the idea of giving Billy a backstory was great. If ever a horror movie ghoul deserved a more detailed backstory, it's Freddy Kreuger.
Julie, I did the same thing when my dog died, but it was The Shining that I watched. Escapism indeed.
Posted by: Lannie at January 8, 2008 9:41 PM
I too hafta give Jason X some love! Best part of the movie is when they rnu the computer program to simulate those loose chicks saying "Wanna smoke some pot? Or have some premarital sex? We LOOOOOVE premarital sex!!!' And then 2 minutes later jason is swinging them inside their sleeping bags and beating them against a tree much like a grandmother would use a broom to beat out a rug. Fuckin rad!
Posted by: PissBoy at January 8, 2008 11:31 PM
All this horror remake/sequel/prequel talk just makes me think of a Matt Damon interview where he said he would be doing "Boune 13: Bourned vs. Jason" or something like that.
Is it bad that I would totally pay to see that?
Also, that trailer, is it just one female scream played over and over again? Cause that's just kinda weird.
Avril Lavigne covered a System song??? WHAT THE FUCK??? Tell me that's a joke.
Posted by: kdm at January 9, 2008 1:38 AM
kdm: Sadly, no it isn't. It was during one of her live performances, there's been a bootleg mp3 floating around the internet ever since. It seriously has to be heard to be believed - it becomes patently obvious very quickly that she doesn't even know what the lyrics are.
TK: I'm with you on the Freddy Vs. Jason love - I personally love the part where the vain bitch is flicking through a cosmetic surgery magazine and considering a nosejob, and Freddy promptly bursts out of the page, shouts 'Got your nose!' and slices her nose off with the glove/claw.
Posted by: Dill The Devil at January 9, 2008 3:56 AM
kdm: Sadly, no it isn't. It was during one of her live performances, there's been a bootleg mp3 floating around the internet ever since. It seriously has to be heard to be believed - it becomes patently obvious very quickly that she doesn't even know what the lyrics are.
TK: I'm with you on the Freddy Vs. Jason love - I personally love the part where the vain bitch is flicking through a cosmetic surgery magazine and considering a nosejob, and Freddy promptly bursts out of the page, shouts 'Got your nose!' and slices her nose off with the glove/claw.
Posted by: Dill The Devil at January 9, 2008 4:04 AM
I hate to ask this, but what System of a Down song did Avril try to kill?
Blackberry Arbor Mist? Wow. That was one of my "I am broke and need cheap liquor" drinks. Ahh...college...
Can someone please cover "Election" as an underrated gem? I love that movie.
Posted by: Melody at January 9, 2008 10:15 AM
On the mixed race couples bit: Ironically, last night I watched Bones and without much of a comment at all they presented the parents of a murdered girl, all mixed race (white and black). Over the last several years I have seen in movies and television more examples of mixed races... we just don't notice until its abscent.
I can't speak to anyone elses prom, but my home town at the time was seriously monochromatic. Mixed race couples weren't even a possibility.
Posted by: Spike at January 9, 2008 10:49 AM
On the mixed race couples bit: Ironically, last night I watched Bones and without much of a comment at all they presented the parents of a murdered girl, all mixed race (white and black). Over the last several years I have seen in movies and television more examples of mixed races... we just don't notice until its abscent.
I can't speak to anyone elses prom, but my home town at the time was seriously monochromatic. Mixed race couples weren't even a possibility.
Posted by: Spike at January 9, 2008 10:50 AM
Being from a mixed background, full disclosure, I married a white chick, and I'm proud to say I married her all the right reasons: for her spectacular boob....err *cough* her... mind *cough* *cough*...her mind.
Posted by: BarbadoSlim at January 9, 2008 11:24 AM
besides the mix race issue, i always wonder why does mix race kids (black and white) in the US always stay on the black side (halle berry, alicia keys, etc) or why do they even have to pick a side....
Posted by: NDR at January 9, 2008 11:38 AM
".... in the US always stay on the black side (halle berry, alicia keys, etc) or why do they even have to pick a side...."
Posted by: NDR at January 9, 2008 11:38 AM
Well, for *ME* at least being too dark for Italian and too light for "Black" it was more of a personal survival issue to pass myself off as Puertorrican (thank god for adoptive parents), believe me it was for the best. Black racism is as ugly as the white variety.
Posted by: BarbadoSlim at January 9, 2008 11:47 AM
NDR, I'm not sure using Halle Berry and Alicia Keys is an adequate example. I'm mixed myself, and I'm pretty comfortable on either side. I'd suspect it has more to do with where you're raised than "picking a side".
And I, like B-Slim, married a white woman, probably for the same reasons (ahem).
Plus, I get to routinely use the classic Blazing Saddles line whenever I come home, which is fun.
Posted by: TK at January 9, 2008 1:23 PM
RE Reese Witherspoon doin' some killin': Has no one seen "Freeway"? Reese was all kinds of white trash violent in that one. And had a black boyfriend.
Posted by: Slash at January 9, 2008 1:46 PM
And it's not possible to ruin "Time After Time." The original sucks. I've never liked that song and don't understand the love for it.
Posted by: Slash at January 9, 2008 1:48 PM
"I hate to ask this, but what System of a Down song did Avril try to kill?"
Posted by: Melody at January 9, 2008 10:15 AM
Chop Suey...incredibly enough. I would share...but my ears can only stand exploding burst of blood once a decade....
Posted by: Shadows of Dakaron at January 9, 2008 2:15 PM
As to the race issue....although hispanic, I'm light enough to be taken for a white guy, and I've dated hispanic girls, black girls, and white girls. I think it has more to do with the culture you've grown up in (I'm a military brat), and the attitudes of those you interact with (all girls I went out with appreciated that I honestly didn't care about race or color).
Now, I live in the south...and it's incredible how pronounced racial attitudes are here. I seriously believe that I would be shunned by both white and black for going out with a black girl here. So, I guess what I'm saying is....mixed-race couples do exist, and are happening with greater frequency, and the world is better for them....but there are still places that are backwards in mindset. It's to be expected...many people don't like change, and actively campaign against it. Hollywood knows this, and so is very reluctant to introduce the mixed dynamic until it's sure there won't be an outrage from some quarter.
But there are plenty of movies that use the mixed race dynamic, and don't even care if there's outrage or if it's even relevant. I'm not even talking about those movies that focus on it...I'm thinking of movies where it's simply a by-product of daily reality. I notice that Pieces of April gets some love on this site...her boyfriend was black. That's just one example.
And the question of the mixed-race kids picking sides always makes me think of that one Dave Chappelle short....
Posted by: Shadows of Dakaron at January 9, 2008 2:24 PM
A remake fucking mercilessly with the original film's content is nothing new but after seeing the Prom Night trailer, I'm convinced it's simply a movie called Prom Night. Not one iota of the trailer reflected the original in any way. Must just be a coincidence.
Posted by: Amanda H. at January 9, 2008 2:26 PM
Now to start off with here, I would like to say that I enjoy horror flicks. The campier (is that a word?), the better. So after seeing so much love for Jason X (I mean seriously, folks, I need a towel to clean off my screen...eeeew!), I must now enter the DVD Chamber and scrape off the cobwebs and enjoy me some futuristic Jason mayhem! Woohoo!
Now being Hispanic myself, I also married a white woman. It's not my fault she has a glorious set of...eyes. And besides, race never really entered the equation when I made my decision. I worked in a melting pot when I first met her (McDonalds, ladies and gentlemen, not only serves a heart attack on a bun, but introduces you to the entire spectrum of humanity. And some fine looking ladies) and had my pick of the litter. My point is that race should not ever be considered and you should simply be with someone who makes you happy. Now were it that easy, life wouldn't be...um, hard? You know the opposite of easy?
Posted by: ScarletKnight at January 9, 2008 2:58 PM
Isn't there a show on the WB/CW about sports with a black/white couple? The Game or somesuch?
And I guess Asians aren't considered "ethnic" enough by you guys (none were mentioned) to be considered part of a mixed couple-there are plenty of white/Asian or black/Asian couples in the American media (commercials/tv/film).
Anyway...a prequel to "The Host"? Will Americans be responsible for creating the monsters again?
Posted by: pkittie at January 9, 2008 3:01 PM
Tracy Flick is one of my all time favorite villains. So I think Witherspoon has what it takes to play a villainess.
Freddy Kruger is a prominent feature in a reacurring nightmare I have had since I was a little thing. Basically, the only way to get rid of the scary mofo is to turn on the lights, but in my dream all the lightbulbs are burned out. Spoiler alert....he gets me.
Posted by: ziva at January 9, 2008 3:31 PM
And I guess Asians aren't considered "ethnic" enough by you guys (none were mentioned) to be considered part of a mixed couple-there are plenty of white/Asian or black/Asian couples in the American media
Like who? I'm not saying that to be an asshole, I just genuinely can't think of any...
Posted by: TK at January 9, 2008 3:49 PM
I'm not that much of a System of a Down fan, but after hearing Avril murder "Chop Suey", I'd kind of like to see them rough her up a bit. That was awful. Just awful.
Posted by: Lannie at January 9, 2008 4:10 PM
I'm in as well TK. The scene where Jason puts the sluts in the sleeping bag and beats them against a tree is one of the most hilarious things to come out of a 'Nightmare' movie since the scene where the chick turns into a roach in the roach motel. You've got to know the one I'm talking about.
Oh, and Witherspoon a serial killer? Oh yes, I'll buy that for a dollar.
Posted by: Smokin at January 9, 2008 6:24 PM
@TK
Heroes
All "American" Jackie Chan movies
Ditto Jet Li movies
Kaiser Hospital commerical
Fast & Furious movies and their ilk
Grey's Anatomy
Maury Povich & Connie Chung
Friends
Almost any film starring Lucy Liu
All tv shows starring Lucy Liu
Star Trek: Deep Space Nine
Ally McBeal
All films with Tia Carrera
Battlestar Galactica
Verizon wireless commercial
The Transporter
American films with Michelle Yeoh
The Office (U.S.)
ER
Bones
Mastercard commercial
Harry Potter films 4, 5, & 6
& tons of rap/hip hop videos
I'm sure there's more, too tired to look.
Posted by: pkittie at January 9, 2008 8:14 PM
OK, pkittie, point taken. I get you. Though I will say this... very few mainstream movies there (TV shows, yes, but movies... no). Also, you'll note that in most of the Jackie Chan or Jet Li movies, they are VERY careful to not actually show any physical contact. Seriously, they never kiss in most of those movies, rather, the relationship is never more than implied.
BUT, other than those few objections, you're pretty much right on... which now brings up an interesting new question: Why is it more acceptable for the media to portray white people in mixed relationships with Asians than it is with Blacks or Hispanics?
Posted by: TK at January 10, 2008 1:06 PM

