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The Dark Age of Metal / TK

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Last week, we talked about the Golden Age of Metal, and I confess that I was pleasantly surprised by how many of you not only loved the artists I listed, but also had a strong appreciation for some of the more obscure artists that I left off. Unfortunately, towards the end of that era, a new age began… a dark age. An age when metal became corrupted by eyeliner and hairspray, by animal print lycra and lipstick. Just as the Golden Age was in its death throes, a new evil rose from the depths. Born of an unholy corruption, they took the worst of metal, merged it with the likes of Journey and Foreigner, and like some harlot-born abomination… glam metal was born.

Glam metal, in a word, sucked. It was shit. It was shit that was packaged by record execs and bands who dressed and acted only to receive attention, with no genuine interest in music. This lack of interest is painfully obvious, as most of these bands really ever evolved past their douchebag, date-rapey, G n’ R wannabe roots. Don’t give me that “Tommy Lee was a talented drummer” and “Nikki Sixx was a good guitarist” crap. BULLSHIT. They may have had some technical know-how, but have you seen that Tommy Lee video (yeah, that one)? I mean yeah, he’s got a horsecock, but he’s a fuckin’ moron. And their music was just awful. Yeah, that’s right Rowles, I said AWFUL.

Yeah, in retrospect, there were some amusing tunes. Most of these bands were so laughably wretched that they can now provide us with a great deal of comic relief, But they also did irreparable damage to metal’s credibility, which is why it’s never been nearly as popular as it was then. The Dark Age was rife with wannabe tough guys, shameless posturing and some truly horrifying costume choices that were, sadly made without any ironic intent. The sad thing is, they are pathetic excuses for metal, and are in no way deserving of that descriptor. And yet, time and time again, they are described as such.

Anyway, here they are. The worst of the worst. The guilty, the damned, the Dark Age of Metal. Last week we started with the Horsemen of the Metalocalypse. This week, we begin with the The Three W’s of Woe, also known as the Three Horsemen of the Suckocalpyse: Warrant, Winger and Whitesnake.


warrant.jpgWarrant: Cherry Pie
[Columbia Records, 1990]

Ugh. On a list of really awful bands, this is one of the worst. Forget about Slayer — “Cherry Pie,” both the album and the song, are signs of the true coming of Satan. Ruining the reputations of both delicious cherry pie (suck it, Sarina) and rock and roll, it’s altogether possible that Warrant was nothing less than an insidious communist plot. Something meant to take things sacred to America and violate them. For all the greatness that delectable cherry pie showed in the wonderful “Twin Peaks,” Warrant spit it back in our faces. Also, the lead singer’s name was Jani. Jani Lane. How do you trust a man with a name like that? That’s right — you don’t. Watch the video below, if you dare. For the number of leather-pants-and-suspenders combos alone, they should be shot into the sun.


“Cherry Pie”


winger.jpgWinger: Winger
[Atlantic Records, 1988]

What to say about Winger. Their lead singer’s name is “Kip.” Strike One, Their hit song, “Seventeen,” clearly shows that they prey on the young, and are pedophiles. Strike two. He and the guitarist, Reb Beach, were former members of Shock Rock God Alice Cooper’s band, and yet this is the best they could do? Strike fucking Three, Kip.

Oh, and just in case you need more:

kipwinger.jpg
I think I’ve said all I need to say.



“Seventeen”


whitesnake.jpgWhitesnake: Whitesnake
[Geffen Records, 1987]

Whitesnake is actually perhaps the most frustrating band on this list, because they were born out of something genuinely great. Formed by David Coverdale, formerly of the classic hard/progressive rock band Deep Purple, they’ve got some genuine rock pedigree to them. Their follow-up to this eponymous effort, the charmingly named Slip Of The Tongue, would go on to feature guitar prodigy Steve Vai. But Whitesnake, their eighth album, is probably their worst, and the most “glam” of their discography. Tracks like “Here I Go Again” and “Is This Love” (a ballad so cheesy it can give you heart disease) exemplified all that had gone wrong with the band, and basically pissed blood all over the memory of Deep Purple. Damn you, David Coverdale. While you would later redeem yourself with the decent Coverdale/Page, Whitesnake is unforgivable. Damn you to hell.

I will give them this though — the forced seriousness affected by the band, as well as their posing, in this video is nothing less than hilarious.



“Here I Go Again”


skidrow.jpgSkid Row: Skid Row
[Atlantic Records, 1989]

Sebastian Bach, lead singer for Skid Row, is a notorious douchebag, renowned for throwing bottles at girls and punching fans. His macho affectations were even more incongruous for a guy who probably weighed 130 pounds and looked (and sang) like a 13 year old girl. Their self-titled debut album is a wreck of an album, filled with screeching and caterwauling that makes your ears bleed. Skid Row would actually go on to make much better records — none of them good, mind you, just better, mostly due to the absence of Bach.

Here’s a homework assignment for you: Someday when you’re bored at work, look up the lyrics to “Youth Gone Wild.” Then google the video to Finger Eleven’s “Paralyzer,” and sing along. Yeah. When you’re stealing riffs from Skid Row, you are a monumentally sucky band. For shame, Finger Eleven. For shame. Anyway, for today I give you this:


“18 And Life”


Poison-Flesh_%26_Blood.jpgPoison: Flesh And Blood
[Enigma/Capitol Records, 1990]

It’s really a toss up regarding which is the worse Poison album, this one of its predecessor, Open Up and Say… Ahh!. The selection is almost arbitrary, since their both so amazingly, laughably awful. Besides having some of the most douchetacular band members in rock and roll history (Bret Michaels: scumbag. C.C. Deville: egomaniacal cokehead. Rikki Rockett: Named himself “Ricki Rockett”), their music was the worst kind of meathead rock, aimed more at getting girls to lift up their shirts than out of any kind of musical dedication. While “Every Rose Has Its Thorn” off of their prior album is easily their most well-known bit of ear-rape, Flesh and Blood had more than its share of garbage to sift through. But of course, the true tragedy will always be this one, complete with chaps, lasers, headbands, and super duper special effects:



“Unskinny Bop”


crue.jpgMotley Crue: Dr. Feelgood
[Elektra Records, 1989]

Let’s get this out of the way before Dustin has a petit mal seizure: Motley Crue is not a good band. Their earlier efforts, like Shout At The Devil, deserve some credit for being basically anthemic, Satanism-light screech metal, and I can appreciate that kind of anti-establishment, fuck-you ethos. However, once they caught wind of the sex-and-big-balls-metal-lite trend, they promptly went from mildly entertaining to godawful. Gone were the raucous delights like “Shout At The Devil” and the instrumental “God Bless the Children of the Beast,” replaced instead with auditory vomitus like “Slice Of Your Pie” and “Don’t Go Away Mad (Just Go Away).” Another band composed of moronic mental adolescents, Vince Neil, Nikki Sixx (God, these names are brutal), Tommy Lee (he of the horsecock), and Mick Mars (perhaps the most talented of the lot) churned out increasingly idiotic releases, culminating in Dr. Feelgood, their most popular album, and probably their worst to boot.

<a href="http://www.joost.com/135gt6d/t/M%c3%b6tley-Cr%c3%bce-Don't-Go-Away-Mad">Mötley Crüe - Don&#8217;t Go Away Mad</a>
“Don’t Go Away Mad (Just Go Away)”


This is just a small sample. I didn’t bother to torture you (or myself) with the works of Slaughter, Dangerous Toys, or Def Leppard (mostly because that would have resulted in me taking shots at a one-armed man, and no one likes making fun of the disabled). But I believe the point has been made clear — the late 80’s and early 90’s were dark days indeed for metal and rock and roll. These were the bands that led to people becoming disaffected with metal, to the market becoming oversaturated, and metal never really recovered. The best we could ask for from these bands is to take Crue’s advice. Just go away.

Please.

TK can often be found staggering around his back yard, wishing for a zombie attack and shouting at leaves. He studies the dark arts of cheeseburger-making and cultivating the Merciless Pepper of Quetzlzacatenango. He wastes valuable time at Uncooked Meat.


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Comments

I'm too young to be offended by these bands. In my mind, it's hilarious butt rock that is so bad it's good (well, some of it). And Def Leppard? You can't dispute that that is a brilliant combination of pop and rock.

Posted by: kelsy at January 27, 2009 12:11 PM

I suppose we do owe them a debt of gratitude, though - if not for their hairspray and lipstick and general embarrassment, America would have never growth restless enough to embrace Nirvana and Pearl Jam (and Alice in Chains, and, and...). So, they've got that goin' for 'em....

Posted by: Tammy at January 27, 2009 12:11 PM

"grown," not "growth." Guh.

Posted by: Tammy at January 27, 2009 12:12 PM

Best joke ever?

What has 9 arms and sucks?

Def Leppard

Posted by: PissBoy at January 27, 2009 12:12 PM

So, you're not counting GNR in this category right? Even though they were around LA and were associated with all of these guys? 'Cause if you somehow equate GNR with these bands, then fuck you TK. Fuck you.

Posted by: courtney 2 at January 27, 2009 12:13 PM

Never was a fan of Metal. Glam or otherwise. I still can't tell the difference between Poison & Motley Crue when they come on the radio. (Plus I turn as fast as possible so as not to be educated.)

My neighbor caught Jesus Christ Superstar on stage with Sebastian Bach a few years ago. She said he was awesome, which I can imagine because believes himself to be Jesus.

mr.wsapnin dragged me to a Winger/Cinderella/Bullet Boys show one time. I retaliated by kidnapping him and making him sit through a Barry Manilow concert.

Oh revenge, thy taste is so sweet!

Posted by: wsapnin at January 27, 2009 12:14 PM

Aw, man. You had me up to Def Leppard. I'm not saying they're great...but they are heads and tails above the rest of these guys. Okay, okay...maybe not. But I'm not quite as ashamed when I crank Def Leppard on the radio as I am when I get a little misty eyed at "Every Rose Has Its Thorn". I lay all the blame on my older sister. I was just a wee tyke in the 80s, but she was a teenager and WAY into all these bands (she hand-made a denim jacket with the "Cinderella" logo plastered across the back), so in my effort to emulate what I thought was "cool," I listened too.

Posted by: puregonzo at January 27, 2009 12:15 PM

Who knew that "Cherry Pie" said Think About Baseball? And that video was awesome if only for the slice coincidentally landing in her lap. Ridiculous.

Posted by: Optimus Rhyme at January 27, 2009 12:18 PM

One of my favorite morbid memories from my teenage years was listening to Def Leppard's "Armageddon" after Steve Clark OD's. There's a moment, right before the guitar solo, when Joe Elliot says, "Come on, Steve, get it," which we then changed to, "Come on Steve, Die!"

Ah, you had to be there.

Posted by: Dustin Rowles at January 27, 2009 12:20 PM

You know, I'm gone for a little while and THIS is what I come back to? A Karaoke Who's Who list of shitty hair metal bands? I mean, whatthefuckwhat??

By the way, you left off Ratt and that one band you were in...

Posted by: Manny at January 27, 2009 12:21 PM

so in my effort to emulate what I thought was "cool," I listened too.

Then in that spirit, did you lose too your virginity in the back of a yellow and primer-gray Camaro, being awkwardly fondled to the screechings of Brett Michaels?

Posted by: PissBoy at January 27, 2009 12:21 PM

There is way too much hair in this post. I am waving my scissors at my screen most angrily.

Posted by: figgy at January 27, 2009 12:22 PM

I liked every one of those bands when I was 12. Is that an excuse? No. I grew out of it. Now I'm all about the Dion.

I'm with you courtney 2, should the GNR be mentioned in this vicinity, there will be some cuttin'.

Posted by: admin at January 27, 2009 12:22 PM

He may kill me for this, but I should also mention that there was some good Glam Metal out there, including one band called Vaz Hoil, who our own TV Whore played for in his teenage years. You haven't heard real music until you've heard "Luv Spackle."

Posted by: Dustin Rowles at January 27, 2009 12:26 PM

Oh man, this takes me back to the glory days of actual videos on MTV... just video after video, no reality crap (yet).

*sigh*

Posted by: Becky Tri-Tip Goddess at January 27, 2009 12:30 PM

My brother and his best friend wrote and recorded a mock glam rock song called "Permission to Party" under the band name Climaxica. It is the most glorious thing I have ever listened to, though it's a little disturbing to hear your brother sing "Got my leather on, skintight, damn my bulge is big tonight my dick's a foot long! Don't be a tease, on your knees, I ain't got no cock disease, so take a hit from my flesh-colored bong!"

I babysat him when he was young...I wonder if I was any influence?

Posted by: Julie at January 27, 2009 12:34 PM

By any chance, is the band in the header photo Nitro? I used to be in a punk band with a drummer who owned a cassette from Nitro (bought for a buck in the used record store, natch), and it was hands down the funniest music album I had ever heard: ludicrous operatic vocals, incomprehensible guitar solos, and heavy reverb over everything. Spinal Tap sounded like Staind compared to those guys.

Posted by: DGM at January 27, 2009 12:39 PM

I think I must have been blacked out during this era. The only thing I know about any of these bands is from snippets on Metal Rocks! compilation CD ads on basic cable.

The closest I came to this type of music was when I had a relative-by-marriage who was in a band that aspired to be the next Poison. Even with the bar set that low, they managed to wiggle under it. I've seen more passion (and far more talent) at a junior high orchestra concert.

Posted by: Wednesday at January 27, 2009 12:42 PM

nah DGM...methinks that's Poison.

Literally.

Posted by: PissBoy at January 27, 2009 12:43 PM

I didn't bother to torture you (or myself) with the works of [...] Def Leppard

We are totally in a fight.

P.S. Kip Winger is HOT. I mean, look at that guy... come on!

Posted by: Anna von Beaverplatz at January 27, 2009 12:45 PM

...or it might be the chicks from Sweet Valley high.

Posted by: PissBoy at January 27, 2009 12:45 PM

Damn, I have no taste, apparently. I have, and will continue, to rock out to most of these bands.

But only in that ironic I know they suck but kiss my ass I will like them anyway just because I can kind of way.

Posted by: boo at January 27, 2009 12:46 PM

I was immediately turned off by the first heavy metal band I ever heard (so far back I can't even recall the name of the travesty). I was brought up thinking "heavy metal" meant a large brass section.

Posted by: The Wanderer at January 27, 2009 12:52 PM

I was brought up thinking "heavy metal" meant a large brass section.

Tubas are quite cumbersome.

Posted by: Julie at January 27, 2009 12:54 PM

LOVES IT!!!

Posted by: Be Adequite! at January 27, 2009 12:58 PM

*blinks*

There was music before Nirvana?

Posted by: stipe42 at January 27, 2009 1:00 PM

TK, spot on for the most part. How can you forget the fucktoids that was Europe, Cinderella, Ratt, Quiet Riot, Dokken, hell even Ozzy during this period.

I will also agree with Def Leppard. Their best was High N Dry and for those that think Hysteria was a great album I have a sound comparison. Drop fifteen cats with all their claws in one of those old metal garbage cans and latch the lid, then listen to Hysteria, the cats win going away because they are playing with feeling.

I agree with you also with Whitesnake in this time frame. Although I would say, revisit their album Slide it In, I really think it is good.

Posted by: richmac at January 27, 2009 1:08 PM

How can you forget the fucktoids that was Europ

IT'S THE FINAL COUNTDOWN!!! DAHduhDA-DAA! DAHduhDA-DA-DAAAAA!!

Posted by: boo at January 27, 2009 1:09 PM

I'm with you boo. Especially Skid Row. I love 'em all.

My neighbor caught Jesus Christ Superstar on stage with Sebastian Bach a few years ago.

Me, too! And he was actually really good. I think he got fired a week later for drug-use or some shit. Ah well.

Posted by: jamiepants at January 27, 2009 1:10 PM

DAMN IT BOOOOOOO!!!!

Posted by: Julie at January 27, 2009 1:10 PM

MWAH HA HA HA! SATAN LIVES!

And his name is Europe.

Posted by: boo at January 27, 2009 1:12 PM

I need to know TK's thoughts on Stryper. Need.

Posted by: branded at January 27, 2009 1:17 PM

Once again, TK, I like the cut of your jib.

Posted by: Matt at January 27, 2009 1:19 PM

TK, I admit, when I saw the "metalocalypse" thing, I thought you were talking about the Adult Swim show. That's the closest I know of metal, of any kind.
Beavis & Butthead used to rag on Winger all the time. I figured that meant they sucked. Good to know that still stands.

Posted by: Brie at January 27, 2009 1:28 PM

Odd collection. It seems, somehow, incomplete.

It is just me, or does Warrant / "Cherry Pie" sound like Kiss without the conviction, body hair and tongue gymnastics? (Which amounts to "Why bother?")

Gene Simmons / Paul Stanley singing about "Cherry Pie" you believe that they *want some*, and not in any prissy agent Cooper way. These Warrant guys seem like they're snickering about being dirty, singing about cherry pie because they're supposed to want some. Wouldn't know what to do with it if it were on a table right in front of them. And coffee? Not a clue.

BTW, doesn't Tawny Kitaen deserve an honorable mention for the hair-flippin N car-gridin in "Here I Go Again?" A genre-defining moment, I think.

How empty is my day that I'm busy deconstructing reviews of obsolete glam-metal bands that bored me in their prime? Time for that graduate degree in post-modern studies.


Anyway, Deathtongue! - best glam / rock band ever.

Bill / Opus '12
Ack. Thpppppt!

Posted by: BierceAmbrose at January 27, 2009 1:32 PM

Seeing as metal was at it's most popular when all of the bands you mentioned were at their most popular your entire thesis is full of fail.

Try again, loser.

Posted by: Bajingo Hound at January 27, 2009 1:44 PM

This one's for you, Julie!

Love ya! Mean it!

Posted by: boo at January 27, 2009 1:53 PM

Bajingo Hound - so how was Paul Blart: Mall Cop?

Because popularity equals quality, right?

Have a nice day.

Posted by: Matt at January 27, 2009 1:53 PM

I was going to stay away from this fight. I really was. I left the website and everything. But I HAD to come back.

Hair metal/Glam metal, whatever you want to call it, was just as good/great as any era of "rock 'n' roll." Sure, it had its fair share of shit bands, but what era doesn't? Were all of the late 70's/early 80's arena bands great? No. Were all of the grunge bands great? God no. Punk? Nu-metal? Emo? You name the genre, and there were great bands, average bands, one-hit wonders, and absolute crap.

TK - what's your argument? Because some of these musicians are idiots means they suck? Actually, if you had a shred of musical knowledge, you'd realize some of these dudes are extremely talented (hell, Kip Winger is a freakin' jazz teacher), yet they played this music because this is what was selling then. Motley Crue's Mick Mars (their actual guitarist, not Nikki Sixx) could play rings around most any guitarist you want to put him up against, but he plays in the Crue because he makes $$$ there. Shit music? Maybe, but shit music that PAYS.

The Beatles were incredible, but guess what? Ratt, Poison, Motley Crue, Def Leppard, the Scorpions (among others) have had longer careers. Did they sell as many albums and have as many hits? No. But they also didn't sell out and make dumb ass cartoon-length films or shit poor Las Vegas/Cirque du Soleil shows. And these "shit" bands still got fans the world over and still play to sold out arenas.

Posted by: B-Unit at January 27, 2009 1:54 PM

B-Unit: How can you say that these bands "didn't sell out" right after admitting that "they played this music because this is what was selling then."

Isn't that the uh, exact definition of selling out?

Posted by: Mattfactor at January 27, 2009 1:59 PM

"yet they played this music because this is what was selling then"

"But they also didn't sell out and make dumb ass cartoon-length films or shit poor Las Vegas/Cirque du Soleil shows"

Hmm, there's a word I'm looking for here...I can't seem to remember what it is...

Posted by: boo at January 27, 2009 2:01 PM

Bajingo, please. PLEASE. TK is spot on.

Metal was not at its most popular when these bands were popular. Just like punk is not at its most popular right now even though there are a bunch of crappy, whiny, ridiculous little boys singing about ridiculous little things (Fall Out Boy anyone)on the radio right now.

Metal cannot and should not ever ever be equated with any of the bands listed above. Ever.

They took something pure, amazing, and awesomely inspiring and shat all over it. It is drivel, repetitive bs, it is horrible, it is the insidious influence of mainstream mediocrity, it is purely evil.

Motley Crue is like Britney Spears. They are one and the same in my mind.

Metal is an amazing musical genre that was bastardized by Ratt, Poison, Warrant, etc.

TK is awesome.

Posted by: Songbird at January 27, 2009 2:01 PM

I'm also a bit curious as to the absence of any mention of GnR from either column - love them or hate them, a pretty d*mn important player in the mid-late 80s scene. I'm assuming TK simply doesn't consider them to be 'metal', but I would disagree with that... at least where Appetite for Destruction is concerned...

Posted by: S.K. at January 27, 2009 2:04 PM

Great minds, Mattfactor.

Posted by: boo at January 27, 2009 2:04 PM

I know you posted that like for Julie boo but I am having a hard time not clicking. I know what it is and I know what your trying to do. It was my first metal album and I played that song endlessly.

It's not nice to try to make an addict relapse, it makes Kolbaby cry.

Posted by: admin at January 27, 2009 2:05 PM

Forgive me, admin, for waving the BEST SONG EVER in front of your face like a meatball sub in front of a starving man.

But I am evil. And thus cannot be stopped.

ALL HAIL!

Posted by: boo at January 27, 2009 2:07 PM

I'll have my vengence Boo.

This all reminds me of that Metalocalypse episode when Murderface tries to write a song.

A million miles from nowhere
Dragonlance Burns hot
By the fire of a horse's ghost
A minow would be lost
Cha cha changes
Mmm...tits
A fish...
A fish with tits...
...titty fish

Posted by: Julie at January 27, 2009 2:13 PM

Not to say that most glam rock doesn't suck, there are a few decent bands. Ignoring his current status as a sex predator rotting in a Vietnamese prison, I thought some of Gary Glitters stuff was dead on catchy. Hell, there isn't a single NCAA Div I basketball game that doesn't play "Rock and Roll part 2". Listen to his "Always Yours" and tell me it would be a perfect song on a song track for a stalker film or something akin to that Karen Carpenter song in "1408". I am kind of partial to Gary Glitter because my fucked up parrot (He was an SCPA rescue from when I worked there) goes nuts for the music. I didn't think this bird would ever make a sound (didn't for about 4 years) and then one day, during a party, the bird was singing and whistling. I though someone was fucking with me. Weirdest shit in the world and the bird still goes nuts, about a decade later, every time I put the CD on. Now if I could do something about the guilt of listening to a child raper....

Posted by: diablo at January 27, 2009 2:16 PM

Boo, I too agree with you that these bands can be very enjoyable, as long as you can take them with a grain of salt.

Although I'm slightly too young to have been a true 80s metal chick (I turned 6 in 1987) I will admit that I went to a Poison concert. In 2000. On purpose...and it was a fucking AWESOME time.

Posted by: Siege at January 27, 2009 2:21 PM

You are a fool TK.

Posted by: Joey at January 27, 2009 2:23 PM

You are a fool TK.

Well with such a well-reasoned argument, I can hardly imagine how TK could possibly respond once he stops sobbing. I mean, you just went all Clarence Darrow on his ass.

Posted by: stipe42 at January 27, 2009 2:30 PM

I can agree with all, except Kip Winger. Kip is fricken awesome! The rest are just a big blur of suck, but Kip? The man was a dancer...with a dancer body. and he's sooo pretty! Try watching his video again without the sound and I'm sure you'll change your mind.

Posted by: MissNev at January 27, 2009 2:34 PM

You are a fool TK.


I can only guess at depth of the rage TK must feel from this affront.

Posted by: admin at January 27, 2009 2:35 PM

Motherboy -there's a band that rocked pretty hard.

I worked in a record store in the 80's peddling this crap, and let me tell you it ALL sucked. Even the "better" stuff by Metallica and Aerosmith during that period looked pretty stupid when observed through "Spinal Tap"-tinted glasses.

For all my suffering, I did get to meet Alice Cooper- great guy!

Posted by: summerteeth at January 27, 2009 2:36 PM

I actually went with my roommates as Motley Crue. And it was amazing and I hooked up with a girl while wearing a wig and leather pants.... so I really must thank them for a great night.

But who was The T.V Whore in Vaz Hoil? Jamie Soundz? Stone Cruz?. And wow they just ripped into this Meat Loaf style ballad. Not a terrible solo... I might have to suggest them to my 80's obsessed roommate.

Posted by: Optimus Rhyme at January 27, 2009 2:47 PM

I submit for your consideration: W.A.S.P. I cannot listen to "Wild Child" without falling over laughing. "A naked heat machine, I want your love" sung in a screaming hair-metal voice = best lyric ever.

Posted by: s. pisaster at January 27, 2009 2:48 PM

I was born in 1981. It was this and New Kids on the Block because they didn't have any swears. I still play all these songs when I clean the house and do dishes.

First time I heard "glam metal" was on the Tilt a Whirl at the local amusement park and they played Ratt's "Round and Round". Seriously, go on any amusement park ride at night that requires music and it's all glam metal. Heard Metallica's "Enter Sandman" at age eight on my first roller coaster. I felt like the coolest little girl in a jean jacket, white Keds and crimped hair.

P.S. Billy Idol was my first crush, and I think I got my bisexuality from his "Cradle of Love" video.

Posted by: scorzi at January 27, 2009 2:48 PM

Ok, they just did a little skit before ripping into "Lost in My Pants"
And the Whore was Jackknife McBlade, right?

Posted by: Optimus Rhyme at January 27, 2009 2:51 PM

God, I keep having Bill & Ted flashbacks.

Fuck glam metal. It's shit. All shit. The Scandinavian death metal bands should make meatloaf out of the glam "metal" fuckwads. And I don't even like death metal. I would like, however, to punch Kip Winger in the balls. He's the #1 offender in my book.

Posted by: Nadha at January 27, 2009 2:59 PM

My point re: The Beatles v. hair metal was that every band, and nearly every musician, will do what they can to make $$$. I wasn't saying that the hair metalers did sell out. They did. And that's partially why they died out in the early 90s.

People love to rip on hair metal for the "music" and the look (although there is NO era in modern music where the chicks at the concerts looked better than at these hair metal concerts) because none of it really held up. But how's that late 80s-early 90s hip-hop music and fashion holding up? Oh yeah, quite poorly. Anybody jamming or dressing like Kid 'n Play or Kriss Kross these days? No?

No surprise. The "best" music is often the stuff that was hot during your high school years. That's when you spent the most time listening and that music became the soundtrack to your life.

TK - you go to high school in the late 80s? Or were you a product of the great mid-90s sound?

Posted by: B-Unit at January 27, 2009 3:07 PM

I can't really pinpoint my full-on hate / lack of appreciation (at all) for glam metal but I think it has something to do with the fact that the players involved all come across to me as morons. Just, you know, stupid people.

It's not just that the music is prepackaged look-at-me bullshit and relies more on image than sound, but the whole genre just feels soulless and completely vapid to me.

I lump insufferable douchebags like Sebastian Bach and Bret Michaels into the same category as Fred Durst falls under, whatever that is.

Posted by: Mattfactor at January 27, 2009 3:16 PM

No, Pissboy, it was a TransAm. I'm WAY too classy to get it on in a Camaro, sheesh.

Posted by: puregonzo at January 27, 2009 3:21 PM

Anybody jamming or dressing like Kid 'n Play or Kriss Kross these days? No?

Firstly, I can rock a faded high-top like no other honkey out there. Vanilla Ice was a sucka compared to this playa yo.

Secondly, Yes I do wear my clothes backwards. Mostly because I truly enjoy jumping (they call me Tiggs) and because of this large hump on my back. It's just more comfortable.

Posted by: admin at January 27, 2009 3:21 PM

B-Unit: Hair metal died out in the 90's because there was nowhere left for it to go and it was completely devoid of substance. Same thing that happened to disco.

I'm honestly not trying to be an asshole here, either. Just sayin'.

Posted by: Mattfactor at January 27, 2009 3:23 PM

I missed the bus. And that is something that I will never ever do again.

Posted by: vinniedelpino at January 27, 2009 3:25 PM

Mattfactor: I completely agree with you. It ran its course. It was a fad within that overall category of rock, or if you perfer, metal.

But what form of popular music born in the 20th century wasn't a fad, or at least had high and low points?

Grunge didn't kill hair metal. Hair metal was doing a fine job of that all by itself.

Posted by: B-Unit at January 27, 2009 3:46 PM

"But what form of popular music born in the 20th century wasn't a fad, or at least had high and low points?"

Dude, B-Unit, I have to give props for your sticky guns, but brother: no one is arguing this point. For this ONE article, we are talking about the crappy hair "metal" bands. I'm sure there is plenty of room left over for Fred Durst and the other musical vampires that suck the soul from the pentatonic scale.

So yeah.

Posted by: boo at January 27, 2009 3:55 PM

For the record, Guns N' Roses wasn't mentioned because they were actually, you know, good.

And Cinderella wasn't mentioned because it would have made Dustin cry.

Hey! Until you've heard Heartbreak Station, you have no right to mock Cinderaela. You know: Seth once partied with Tom Keifer. True story. -- DR

Posted by: TK at January 27, 2009 4:10 PM

Gotcha - I'll surf over to the "golden age" article and complain about the lack of Slash there instead. ;)

Posted by: S.K. at January 27, 2009 4:48 PM

Wow, no idea where that emoticon came from. Somewhat ruins my metal cred, I think.

Posted by: S.K. at January 27, 2009 4:50 PM

The only thing I'll defend from Whitesnake is the "Here I Go Again" video, which kickstarted puberty for many boys in the mid-80s.

Besides that...yeah, this was God-Awful. Sadly, a lot of these bands are getting more money out of the Guitar Hero/Rock Band rock-revival.

Posted by: Fredo at January 27, 2009 5:02 PM

Wow. Did I accidentally click on "Your Favorite Band Sucks" over at Something Awful? That is some vitriol directed at some mostly harmless party boys. I gotta take exception to including Skid Row in the list. Those guys kicked ass and should be slotted with the likes of Guns 'N Roses. Slave To The Grind is still a great hard rock album.

You can bash on Crue all you want. I like some of their albums but live they are fucking terrible. Vince can't sing more than 3 words without pausing to breathe which makes every song sound like it's being sung by the wheelchair kid on "Malcolm in the Middle".

Posted by: TylerDFC at January 27, 2009 5:08 PM

Most of these bands and their hip-hop counterparts during the late-'80s and early-'90s were trendy vehicles for consumerism.

Think it's any different today?

Just a new generation of suckers.

Posted by: Recondite at January 27, 2009 6:28 PM

These people, especially Bret Michaels, are terrible role models to aspiring young hermaphordites in the music industry. I hope they are locked in a room forced to listen to "Every Rose Has it's Thorns" in the pits of Satan.

Posted by: George at January 27, 2009 7:15 PM

These people, especially Bret Michaels, are terrible role models to other aspiring young hermaphordites like them in the music industry.

I hope they are locked in a room forced to listen to "Every Rose Has it's Thorns" in the pits of Satan. Trouble is, the prince of darkness would never allow that shit to be played in his kingdom.

Posted by: George at January 27, 2009 7:17 PM

Okay, while I may have commented on the Golden Age post recommending such bands as Celtic Frost and Carcass, I'm not beyond whole-heartedly recommending the likes of Whitesnake and, for instance, Journey. Sufficiently liquored up, tracks like 'Is This Love' and 'Don't Stop Believing' can instigate male-bonding moments that are as binding as Adamantium handcuffs, and should not be underestimated as a result.

Posted by: Dill The Devil at January 27, 2009 7:18 PM

WTF, no Cinderella? No White Lion? No Britny Fox? No Stryper? Vixen? Trixter?
Fuck, man, I could go on for days...

Posted by: The Kilted Yaksman at January 27, 2009 7:18 PM

This is like a list of my guilty pleasures. But then again, I am fully aware of the part of me that loves shitty music.

Posted by: Felicia at January 27, 2009 8:09 PM

Oh, it could also serve as a list of songs I've karaoked to. I did Skid Row once and got a roomfull of gaping mouths and loud clapping. I don't think many people have had the pleasure of seeing a small Asian girl sing "I Remember You."

Posted by: Felicia at January 27, 2009 8:12 PM

Glam metal ended when Diamond Darrell became Dimebag Darrell. The man held his finger to the wind. And yes, Pantera will kick your ass.

Posted by: sansho1 at January 27, 2009 9:17 PM

I'm very glad Hanoi Rocks was saved from the firing squad. Though I wear my death metal on my sleeves (literally), my love for these Finnish trannies burns deep.

Posted by: Cory at January 27, 2009 9:47 PM

I'm here to set the record straight. The albums TK slagged were justified. He is spot on. But I have to admit, the following albums by the above bands do merit "good" status:


Poison Look What the Cat Dragged In. That's right, I said it. Mostly for "Cry Tough", which if you heard it without ever seeing the band, you would say was a decent pop-rock anthem. One of the better albums to listen to on the way to the drive-in. Not so much on the way out.


Motley Crue Too Fast for Love. It's brilliant, it's raw, and the kids who loved Ozzy and Slayer at my high school couldn't get enough of this or Shout at the Devil. I think Devil is okay, but this album is fucking brilliant.


For once and all, let's set the record straight on Def Leppard, especially Mr. Joe Elliot: You started out as a hard rock metal band and are actually lumped in with the some people's list of NWOBHM for the On Through the Night album. Quit trying to say you were never a hair metal band, BECAUSE YOU FUCKING WERE, JOE! Yes, you were eraser-etched into my Mead Trapper-Keeper along with Ozzy, Quiet Riot, Motley Crue and Dio. In fact, I would go as far as to say that both High and Dry AND Pyromania are excellent rock albums. Or hair metal albums. Label it what you want, I know good music when I see it, and I recognize the shitty stuff, too, as you will all see tomorrow. That is all.

Posted by: Jez at January 27, 2009 9:59 PM

Golden Age Metal was born of the people: Hair Metal was born of the boardroom.

Saying any of these bands are good are like saying a Big Mac is tasty. Which it is, in an engineered-to-appeal-to-your-base-tastes kind of way, especially if you have been on the road for 6 hours and it's the only alternative to roadhouse "cockroach surprise" fries while refuelling. None of which changes the fact that that in every other sense, it is predictable and unchallenging production line horseshit that genuine lovers find a dumbed down affront to the art.

As someone for whom Live after Death was first love, Master of Puppets remains a masterpiece and Among The Living one of the few relics of my school days I stay in touch with, I say that each and every one of these motherfuckers suck a massive meaty mound of arse. They took a slab of prime beef and ground it down, bones, fat and all, bulked it out with salt, sugar, breadcrumbs, sugar, sawdust, more sugar, MSG, aspartame, thalidomide and a generous pinch of crushed calcified dogshit, then sold it as hamburger. Fuck them and fuck the suits that gave them life.

Posted by: Mr Smug at January 27, 2009 10:11 PM

Skid Row has some bad glam metal songs. But they have some very heavy songs too. Go listen to Slave to the Grind and Monkey Business. That stuff is a lot heavier than any other glam band back then.

Posted by: Dave at January 27, 2009 10:48 PM

I heard "Dr. Feelgood" on the radio the other day, and I was humming it in the office, cause damn if it isn't a catchy song and I had it stuck in my head, and damn if another guy in the office didn't say, "I've got that song stuck in my head now."
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You leave Def Leppard alone.

"Rock of Ages," motherfucker.
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"Best joke ever?"

What's yellow and ugly and sleeps alone?

Yoko Ono.
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"By the way, you left off Ratt ..."

Man, I can get SERIOUSLY pumped up when "Round and Round" comes on the classic rock radio.
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I voluntarily committed myself to seeing Angel once, but only because The Godz were on the bill. And The Godz are rock and roll machines.

Posted by: bucdaddy at January 28, 2009 12:46 AM

"She's only seventy-three

(Seventy-three)

Grampa says she's all used up

But she's good enough for me"

Posted by: Jez at January 28, 2009 7:00 AM

Not a big metal person (especially Winger *shudder*). However, I do have a certain fondness to the days when chesthair was king. I'm so tired of seeing anorexic-looking men with sunken eyes and hairless male models who look 14 years old.

Posted by: Park at January 28, 2009 9:54 AM

Although there's a lot of crap from this era, most of these bands have at least one song that still stacks up musically, and I would dare to say would still be a hit if released by a band today.



The members of these bands grew up in an era where the only way to make music was to play an instrument. At the very least, there was some talent involved - no autotune on the vocals, no cuting and pasting of the one guitar take that was in time.



My list of songs that didn't suck from the bands above:



Whitesnake - Still of the night (pretty amazing)

Poison - Fallen Angel (a great pop song)

Def Leppard - Gods of War, Animal, Women

Europe - Cheroke - (ok I might be scraping here)



Warrant, Winger and Skid Row (with the exception of 'I remember you' I guess) had nothing much to offer though.



I remember reading that Skid Row had their 'guitar tutors' give them ideas for solos and riffs... in other words, they were pretty much the Milli Vanilli of hair metal.



And where's the mention of Bon Jovi? Although it's been super over played, the fact was that their music was great during this period but they have tarnished their reputation with rubbish ever since.



The final word - anyone that doesn't enjoy playing 'Dead or Alive' or similar in Rock Band has no soul.

Posted by: astro monkey at January 28, 2009 11:07 AM

I would agree with this and say you knew what you were talking about if you hadn't declared Metallica the opening of the Golden Age of Metal.

Since your too stupid to understand that MetalliCON isn't fit to stand in the warm crap of BOC and Black Sabbath you tone deaf loser, I'll take it you were lucky to pick the worst.

Sonny, Metallica was the downward slide of metal. Metallica has always been a corporate clusterfuck with all sincerity of Bananarama. That's right...I went there.

The bands you list are just the natural result of the poser bands like Metallica that were metal for metal's sake and not doing anything.

The true era of metal was when the writers turned original ideas and books into songs that they used to comment on how screwed up things were. WarPigs (relevant right now, as opposed to anything by Slayer), Veteran of the Psychic Wars, Sweet Leaf, Paranoid, Black Blade, The Great Sun Jester...you dumb little boy.

Hell...KISS laughs at Metallica! KISS may be shallow, but they were never pretentious. You may not like Kabuki Rock Party Bands, but they never pretended to be too deep, and then epic fail at it.

You remind me of the dweebs who thought "Operation Mind Crime" was so profound an album when it was only a metal version of "Kilroy was Here" by friggin' Styx.

Stick to praising pretentious movies, child, you have no concept of music. Amie Gran would have done a better job.

Posted by: Metal Man at January 28, 2009 4:10 PM

Who the fuck is Amie Gran, you fucking tool?

Perhaps you can return to being easily defeated by a wimpy blue robot, asshole.

Posted by: Sean at January 28, 2009 4:30 PM

Amie Gran Torino?

Amie Gran Damme?

God, I hate you. Die.

Posted by: Sean at January 28, 2009 4:38 PM

Worst concert I ever attended was when my metal friends in college dragged me to a Ratt concert.

They were AWFUL. But, in the end I was glad I was there to see one of the funniest things I have ever seen.

When the band finished the main set and went backstage, not one person in the audience full of metal heads fired up a lighter. NOT ONE. House lights came up and the gravel voiced skreecher that "sang" for them (10 times worse live than on the record, if you can beleive that) had to beg the audience to clap for an obligatory curtain call song.

Posted by: David at January 28, 2009 6:51 PM

Well you do have to cry tough out on the street to make your dreams happen.

In my opinion it's not arbitrary, "Flesh & Blood" is far and away worse then "Open Up And Say...Ahh!" You can trust me on this, because I was a Poison fan, and I loved the first two albums. First show I ever saw was Poison, with Tesla opening, Miami Arena March 15, 1989 (In the previous two years I'd wanted to go to "Together Forever" and "Kick" shows but had been mom-stymied). So when "Flesh & Blood" came out, even for the faithful, it was ".....ehh....this isn't as good, is it. Bret's been mentioning 'Something To Believe In' every damn time he's in Metal Edge and I'm a little underwhelmed after all that buildup. And 'Unskinny Bop' doesn't even make sense, never mind not being good". Yep, the end of the 80s was rough.

Oh and Brak totally stole "Is This Love" away from Coverdale. He owns it now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r78LnRhS2j0
Go to 8:21

Posted by: Jay at January 28, 2009 11:37 PM

Oh wow, I think The Beatles got blamed for being semi-dead up there. Bless!

Posted by: Jay at January 28, 2009 11:46 PM

Okay, time to make some enemies...

One band always is forgotten when it comes to Hair Metal (or, as I like to call it, Castrate Metal): Iron Maiden.

Yes, I said it.

They played the same shit as the above-mentioned assholes, and even wore the same crappy outfits and posed like there was no tomorrow.

But everyone and their uncle praise them to heaven. Can't understand it.

And please, don't give me that NWOBHM crap. That is just a word some people invented to make themselves be different. Despite the fact that they weren't.

Posted by: FabMax at January 29, 2009 10:27 AM

Hey what about these bands?:

Enuff Znuff
Extreme
Ratt
Nelson

Man there was some terrible shit in the late 80s-early 90s. Those were my formative years too, I was effectively 12-15 years old during that time. Very traumatizing, indeed! But then again Radiohead came out in the late 80s with Pablohoney. So it can't be ALL bad.

Posted by: ph at January 29, 2009 8:13 PM

But then again Radiohead came out in the late 80s with Pablohoney. So it can't be ALL bad.

Nope it was all bad. Pablo Honey didn't come out until 1993.

Posted by: stipe42 at January 29, 2009 8:50 PM