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A Smart-Ass Yankee Defends Southern Rock / Ms. Mix & Bitch

Music | December 11, 2008 | Comments (47)


Let me set the record straight first before I plunge in here: I do not have a penchant for Southern culture. I lived in New Orleans for several years, and while I tried my best to groove on mint juleps, crawfish boils, and phrases like “that’ll learn ya” and “let’s go make groceries,” the culture just never fit right. I thought the fact that the Confederate flag was still flying around was sublimely ridiculous. I found no nostalgic, Gone-With-the-Wind charm in seeing black college students dressed as slaves for those plantation home tours, and I could never understand how the state had drinking-and-driving laws yet it still allowed drive-thru daiquiri shacks on every other corner just outside of town.

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Actually, that last one was kinda great.

Southern logic is an oxymoronic wonderland more head-scratchingly bizarre than anything that pervy Lewis Carroll came up with for Alice. That said, the South has its pluses: Jazz is alive and well, the food is outrageously delicious, and I must admit, I just adore Southern rock.

Of course, Greg Allman, of The Allman Brothers, said calling their kind of music Southern rock is like calling it “rock, rock.” And it’s true that Southern rock — with its fusion of blues and rock — is one of the only originally American inventions we have (the other being jazz). And I know that for many, Southern rock represents all that is ignorant and small about the South. I also realize that writing a piece about Southern rock at the helm of winter is another form of weirdness within myself I should embrace (for Southern rock is a quintessentially summer-time, liquor it up by the lake, delicacy). I know all this, but frankly my dear, I don’t give a damn, because when Lynyrd Skynyrd’s “Sweet Home Alabama” or .38 Special’s “Caught Up in You” comes on the radio, I’m immediately singing at the top of my lungs and sliding into the home plate of good moods. It also helps me get through my cardio better than anything else around.

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Which makes sense because Southern rock is nothing if not a testosterone-pumped, endorphin release of a genre. It’s Jack Daniel’s whiskey and car races on abandoned dirt roads. It’s getting too drunk with your friends and ending up with a stupid tattoo on your ass. It’s everything ridiculous and ephemeral and quixotic about adolescence. It’s the “I don’t give a fuck” of rock music, without the baggage of political correctness or modern-day civility.

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(If Southern rock were a cartoon character, it would be Cartman from South Park.)

So yeah, this usually lo-fi-loving, alternative music aficionado loves Southern rock. Gotta problem with that, Tex? Then let’s take it outside…

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1. Lynyrd Skynyrd — “Sweet Home Alabama”
2. Molly Hatchet — “Blackfoot Train Train”
3. Wet Willie — “Keep On Smiling”
4. .38 Special — “Hold On Loosely”
5. Little Feat — “Dixie Chicken”
6. ZZ Top — “La Grange”
7. The Allman Brothers Band — “Midnight Rider”
8. Shooter Jennings — “Fourth of July”
9. The Allman Brothers Band — “Desdemona”
10. Lynyrd Skynyrd — “Freebird”


Ms. Mix & Bitch offers free advice and kick-ass music mixes to match your miseries at Mix Tape Therapy. Outside of cyberspace, she uses her superpowers to give good talk to other dysfunctional bloggers and to parents of really annoying children.









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Comments

Um ... yeah.

Posted by: The Wanderer at December 11, 2008 5:11 PM

PLAY FREEBI-

oh, you did. Never mind me, then.

Posted by: Sabrina at December 11, 2008 5:24 PM

Whats with all the ads for the Tom Cruise site. I mean did you look at it. It has pictures of Tom doing his running and crying. Did you guys say something bad about scientology and they threatened to have you "disapear" unless you flogged Toms webshrine. I thought you had more sense (not more dignity mind just more sense).

Posted by: Kevin Wong at December 11, 2008 5:26 PM

ZZ Top's Sharp dressed man.

Move on...

EE X-MAS movie winner, you HACKS.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at December 11, 2008 5:34 PM

Uh... I live in Baton Rouge. While I DO kind of love a good crawfish boil, I've never had a mint julep or seen anyone else drink one -- EVER. I've also never said "that'll learn ya" or "let's go make groceries," either. Nor have any of the people that I know. This culture that you reference is foreign to me.

Posted by: PaleoLithchick at December 11, 2008 5:42 PM

Psh, everyone knows that true Southern Rock is fall-down incoherent, 200 proof of provincial kick-ass.

Posted by: Recondite at December 11, 2008 5:42 PM

I just have to say that ZZ Top's "I Thank You" is one of the swankiest, sexiest tunes ever.

Posted by: Mattfactor at December 11, 2008 6:04 PM


Geez, are you Anna Paquin's dialect coach for True Blood.

Posted by: Drake at December 11, 2008 6:04 PM

Louisiana native here.
you missed the boat by investigating all things trendy and cliche about new orleans and the South in general.
Perhaps I should critique New York culture based on my trip to the statue of liberty.

Posted by: mothy at December 11, 2008 6:09 PM

I grew up in the South, and in an effort to distance myself from the less savory aspects of that experience, I once also tried to disdain on Southern Rock.

Fortunately, I've realized that there were a few good things about growing up there, and been able to invite the music back into my life.

Also, Southern Rock Opera by Drive By Truckers will give you chills.

Posted by: Drake at December 11, 2008 6:11 PM

Green Grass and High Tides FUREVER!

Posted by: DarthCorleone at December 11, 2008 6:17 PM

No Creedence? Not one bit? No Bad Moon Rising? Green River? Lodi? Fortunate f'n Son?

Sorry, lady, this list is inherently suspect. Go back to Williamsburg, and take your questionable taste with you.

Posted by: Gootch at December 11, 2008 7:23 PM

Uh... I live in Baton Rouge. While I DO kind of love a good crawfish boil, I've never had a mint julep or seen anyone else drink one -- EVER. I've also never said "that'll learn ya" or "let's go make groceries," either. Nor have any of the people that I know. This culture that you reference is foreign to me.

That's because you live in Baton Rouge. I grew up around New Orleans and have lived in Baton Rouge for about 10 years. While mint juleps are kind of a cliche, I have heard and used the phrase "go make groceries" more that a few times. Even though New Orleans is only about an hour and a half away from Baton Rouge, the two cities couldn't be more different. Baton Rouge has become a pretty "generic" kind of city. Malls and chain restaurants as far as the eye can see.

Posted by: RAT at December 11, 2008 7:37 PM

And it's true that Southern rock -- with its fusion of blues and rock -- is one of the only originally American inventions we have (the other being jazz).

Then where the fuck did the blues come from? Canada? Switzerland? Other than that, great mix. It's of course missing some classics, but you can only really fit ten songs on a ten song mixtape.

Posted by: the_wakeful at December 11, 2008 7:42 PM

A big ole "Hells yeah, y'all!" for Southern rock, Drive-By Truckers and Nashville Pussy in particular (Cartman looks rather like Blaine Cartwright from NP, now that I think about it).

And do I get to count my homeboy bands as southern? Most of West By-God is below the Mason-Dixon line. Moon, 63 Eyes, 85 Flood, the Frustrations, the Emergency ...

Also: "Waiting for the Bus/Jesus Just Left Chicago"

Posted by: bucdaddy at December 11, 2008 8:17 PM

"Train Train" is performed by the band BLACKFOOT, another band out of Jacksonville, ala LYNYRD SKYNYRD. Unless I've done far too many drugs in my life, MOLLY HATCHET has never recorded this song, so you might want to re-tag that selection. The song is simply called "Train Train", not "Blackfoot Train Train".

While LITTLE FEAT indeed played plenty of music influenced by various southern styles, they are technically just another band from L.A. I realize this is nitpicking, so please excuse.

SHOOTER JENNINGS was born in Nashville, and eventually moved to L.A. to pursue a rock career that eventually morphed into Country/Country Rock. Most of the time, he's considered "Country", not really Southern Rock. He might consider himself "Southern Rock" these days, and if he does, it's more a marketing strategy than anything else. THE CHARLIE DANIELS BAND would have been a better choice in this slot, in my not-so-humble opinion, if we're gonna consider Southern Rock with a more Country component.

Likewise, THE MARSHALL TUCKER BAND would have been a better choice for this mix than SHOOTER JENNINGS.

The most interesting aspect of this list is that four of these bands originated in Jacksonville, Florida - Lynyrd Skynyrd, 38 Special, Blackfoot, and The Allman Brothers. Your mis-tagged Molly Hatchet also hailed from Jacksonville. Southern Rock, as most of us know it, might be better called "Jacksonville Rock". It raises the issue of just how myopic most people's understanding of "Southern Rock" as a movement/genre actually is...The "South" is a hella lot bigger than Jacksonville, and if I'm not mistaken, there are plenty of southerners who don't consider Florida the "true south", although Jacksonville and Tallahassee fit the bill better than say, Orlando, Miami or Tampa.

I was hoping to see Dixie Dregs, Elvin Bishop, Black Foot Arkansas, Drive-By Truckers and maybe even The Alanta Rhythm Section on this list...Hell, an argument can be made that the Black Crowes should be on this mix...And then there's the Georgia Satellites to consider...All would have been more worthy choices than Shooter Jennings...But then, we can't always get what we want.

Sorry for being a pedantic dick about this, but I gotta say, I was underwhelmed by the mix, and your musings about Southern Rock in general. Lynyrd Skynyrd is one of the few "classic rock" bands that I actually adore (I cut my teeth on Punk and Metal back in the day), and they're often a much more thoughtful and introspective band than mere whiskey-drinking and car-racing, not that there's anything wrong with that.

Posted by: Mohaski at December 11, 2008 8:18 PM

Well, Creedence is from Northern California, they just sound Southern.

Belle and Sebastian have, or at least had, a tradition of doing local covers and even having an audience member sing it. When they did it in Atlanta the person who raised their hand first ws a girl who wanted to sing "Sweet Home Alabama", which still qualified as it was their only southern show with attendees from miles around.

It was a bit of a controversial choice with the audience. Stuart Murdoch mediated a bit saying she'd won the spot fair and square, even if it wasn't a song he'd particularly love to hear either. While they were preparing Stevie Jackson played a bit of "Georgia On My Mind" by himself and then, when the singer was ready, they knew it and nailed it. It was impressive. Yeah, I kinda woulda rather heard "Creeque Alley" in Los Angeles or "Das Modell" in Berlin, but what can ya do?

Posted by: Jay at December 11, 2008 8:26 PM

Couldn't resist posting on this one, you all HAVE to check out Grady, you'll freakin love them!!

http://www.shadygrady.net/

Posted by: kt at December 11, 2008 8:44 PM

I'm looking for more songs about whiskey and heart-ache. Now, I know of George Jones so everything else will just be second-rate but does anyone know of a close second?

Posted by: Optimus Rhyme at December 11, 2008 8:58 PM

Posted by: bucdaddy at December 11, 2008 9:00 PM

I certainly hope you have George's "Yabba Dabba Doo (So Are You)" then. For more whiskey, go to Merle Haggard's "Tonight The Bottle Let Me Down", which can also be found on Elvis Costello & The Attractions country covers album "Almost Blue" (indeed there's a lot of booze and heartache on that album).

Relatedly, you can't miss Dean Martin doin "Little Ole Wine Drinker, Me".

(none of which is rock, of course)

Posted by: Jay at December 11, 2008 9:03 PM

Uh, I believe the band was "Black OAK Arkansas".

Love em

Also, was Savoy Brown from the South?

Posted by: Uncle JR at December 11, 2008 9:16 PM

I fucking love Southern Rock. It's so kick ass.

Posted by: Kayanne at December 11, 2008 10:31 PM

Mohaski, you nailed it. One of the truly great southern rock songs is "Can't You See." Oh lord, what that song does to me.

Also, damn girl, listen to more Skynyrd. "Gimme Back My Bullets?" "Simple Man?" I was jamming to "Tuesday's Gone" on the way to work today and I swear, an actual tear welled up in my eyeball.

Someone mentioned Grady as well. Being from Buffalo, I've seen them play a lot (their previous incarnation was Big Sugar, which had some great reggae-rock fusion), and I wouldn't say they are southern rock AT ALL. But, they do rock. Cheers.

But yeah, it's not always about whiskey and cars and summer love. It's about soul, at least to me. It's about sitting in my dad's lap when I was 5 years old listening to "Long As I Can See The Light" by CCR. It reminds me of what is simple and good about rock n roll.

Posted by: Songbird at December 11, 2008 10:42 PM

Dammit Jay, Of COURSE I know Merle. But my newfound Costello-fetish (encouraged by you, I'm starting to think) makes me need to find this cd. And Dino will make his way into my mix one night, for sure.

Posted by: Optimus Rhyme at December 12, 2008 1:00 AM

But my newfound Costello-fetish (encouraged by you, I'm starting to think)

Optimus... I know that this is referring to a love of Costello's music, but... The use of the word "fetish" makes my pervy, sleep-deprived mind think that you're speaking of a sexual attraction to hot older men with hot glasses. Thus confirming my belief that you've had a long-standing man crush on Jay. Hee!

And y'all thought I was too classy for some southern rocky goodness.

Posted by: Kayanne at December 12, 2008 1:36 AM

My poor roommate a couple years ago had to suffer through my three month addiction to "So Caught Up In You." I dare anyone to come up with a more perfect rock song.

Posted by: kelsy at December 12, 2008 2:31 AM

Yes! Southern Rock Opera by the Drive By Truckers!

Posted by: AdaHaze at December 12, 2008 2:49 AM

Mississippi Queen is pretty awesome

Posted by: dylanj at December 12, 2008 10:29 AM

I hear you, adahaze: Nothing like starting a record with a sick joke:

But when the story was told the next day at the graduation ceremony
Everyone said that when the paramedics got there
Theye could still hear "Free Bird" playing on the stereo.
You know, it's a very, very long song ...

I get chills. Last time I saw DBTs (w/ The Hold Steady) they opened the set with:

Days of Graduation
Ronnie and Neil
Zip City
Plastic Flowers by the Highway

Oh my ...

Posted by: bucdaddy at December 12, 2008 11:00 AM

Nice one Ms. Mix & Bitch. I love southern rock. This site's been hitting the nail on the head every time I come here. If you want to go for perfection. I want someone to write an article on why Carlos Mencia is the worst comedian on T.V. (Sorry Tyler Perry and Seth MacFarlen, you've been knocked down.)

If you want me to do it, send me an e-mail. I would love to if your feeling lazy. I fucking hate Carlos Mencia, and would love to see you guys tear him a new asshole. And since you've been doing everything right, that would just be the icing on the cake.

Posted by: George at December 12, 2008 11:01 AM

I'm from Louisiana too. It annoys me when people come here and reduce us to stereotypes.

That said, I agree with the other posters- your selections are off.

For one thing you picked the two most overplayed Skynard songs that exist. This tells me you've only heard them on the radio in passing. How about The Ballad of Curtis Loew? Gimme Back My Bullets? Saturday Night Special? Swamp Music?

I'd like to see Charlie Daniels, Edgar Winters, different selections from the Allmans,Black Oak Arkansas, MAYBE a Hank Jr. song, The Black Crowes, and.....

you left Stevie Ray Vaughn out.

Next time, Pajiba, please have someone who is from the South write an article about Southern Rock. Thanks.

Posted by: Ash at December 12, 2008 1:10 PM

While Creedance's music is Swampy, and could fall into this category, I would refer to it more as 2nd generation rock and roll than I would "Southern" rock. They were from California, for Chrissakes!

Posted by: Jez at December 12, 2008 2:16 PM

Another shout-out for Black Oak Arkansas!

Check out their live footage on youtube, then enjoy the sensation of your face melting as you realize that Axl Rose completely rips off James Mangrumn in every fucking way. Except for being hot.

Posted by: bev rage at December 12, 2008 3:02 PM

Sorry, PaleoLithchick,
I, too, am from Baton Rouge and can attest to all of those things! I keep mint syrup and Jack Daniels in my kitchen for emergency mint julips.

Posted by: ShannonAnn at December 12, 2008 3:08 PM

Just adding my two cents on the great mint julep debate - My family have all lived in New Orleans/Bayou Lafourche areas for as long as anybody can remember and I don't think any of them have had a mint julep in all their lives. Just depends on who you talk to I guess.>/p>

Posted by: JP at December 12, 2008 3:41 PM

huh. My 3rd dad wrote songs for 38 special...he's a bit of a flake though...Willowdale, Ontario makes some weird musicians. In fact, my mom married two bandmates from that Willowdale area, but shoulda married the third one, I think.
:)

Posted by: replica at December 12, 2008 6:49 PM

How can we have a conversation about southern rock and not include Cross Canadian Ragweed?

Posted by: Austin at December 12, 2008 10:45 PM

Oh god, chill out Louisiana people who are getting their panties in a bunch about the stereotypes. Chill out a little bit.

Posted by: Angie at December 13, 2008 4:01 PM

Would it be offensive if I called the aggrieved "ragin' Cajuns"?


Ow! Ow! Stop!

Posted by: Jay at December 13, 2008 6:54 PM

Angie - mild discontent isn't exactly panty bunching supreme.

Jay - you dare to refer to me as a USL fan!? Prepare to be drowned in a vat of Cane's sauce in the middle of a bayou where everyone glistens as though they've been rubbed down with salad dressing oil while a grizzled old man plays the washboard and his son T Paul plays the accordian and everyone else eats jambalaya. After which there will be an elaborate parade.

See? If you're going to toss out Louisiana stereotypes, THAT'S how you do it.

Posted by: PaleoLithchick at December 14, 2008 7:12 PM

What's wrong with zydeco??? I LIKE jambalaya and Beau Jacques!

Golly, I didn't even realize I had a Southern college sports jab going on too.

But hey, at least you're not from Alabama or Newfoundland!

Posted by: Jay at December 14, 2008 10:10 PM

That's because you live in Baton Rouge. (blah blah blah) Baton Rouge has become a pretty "generic" kind of city.

I am all kinds of agreeing with the above statement. Baton Rouge has become Houston-ultra-lite. While I think mint juleps are grody, my friends love them and drink them all the time. I hear "make groceries" ALL the time. (usually by my Haitian ex-boss, but still)
MMMMMMMMMM you said crawfish boil...I lost whatever the hell I was talking about. Way to bring up the Cane's though...never thought I'd see that pop up in a comment section.
Oh, and Jay, I will rip off your head and spit down your lifeless neck if you ever bring up USL to me again. I get enough of that shit from my roomate who went there. As an avid LSU fan, I would even de-friend you on facebook if I wasn't so lazy.

Posted by: jamiepants at December 15, 2008 12:36 PM

It was PaleoLithchick who brought up USL, what the hell do I know about what college teams are called?

Apparently she doesn't like them either though.

Posted by: Jay at December 15, 2008 1:11 PM

That's because USL fans are even more obnoxious than us LSU fans are. Scary, but true!

And nothing is wrong with zydeco, but you won't be able to hear the band or munch on the jambalaya if you're drowned in a vat of usually-life-giving-but-not-in-this-instance Cane's sauce... however, your professed ignorance of the USL Ragin' Cajuns is enough for me to spare you for now. :)

jaimiepants, Cane's sauce should be brought up in every comment section. Do you know anybody who wouldn't bathe in that stuff? Also, yay! Another rabid LSU fan! There's more BR/Louisiana folks around here than I thought, we should totally have a Pajiba get together... don't bring your USL roommate :D

I still maintain that the mint julep thing and the "hurr hurr hillbilly phrases!" were dumb Southern stereotypes that don't apply to life in Louisiana as I know it (and I spend a lot of time in New Orleans and in Eunice, so it's not like I'm just relying on apparently generic Baton Rouge, which has sold out because it has two whole malls, two upscale shopping squares, AND two Chili's -- clearly the end is near). If you're going to play the "Well, I lived in New Orleans and boy I didn't care for the culture" card, that's fine -- there's plenty to not like or bitch about, and a lot of it's funny. Tired Southern general cliches aren't, and they make some of the natives grumpy. And we're already pretty grumpy after watching LSU get repeatedly ass raped at home this year. But it's just my opinion, and my panties really aren't all that bunched about it. Like I said, I'm just expressing some mild discontent.

Posted by: PaleoLithchick at December 15, 2008 2:37 PM

HAHA, PaleoLithchickyou said Eunice. New Orleans and Eunice. cute. =)
Apparantly there's me (hi!), you (hi!), someone else up there who commented who I can't be bothered to scroll up for, and isabel (i think?) - 4's a party, Alls I'm sayin'. Or at least a night of heavy drinking. It'll also make the carpool to Pajibacon easier. Nicole, what the eff? Aren't you supposed to be putting this shit together?
Please don't bring up football. It just hurts my heart.

Posted by: jamiepants at December 15, 2008 3:51 PM

ZZ Top - I'm Bad, I'm Nationwide

Lynard Skynard - Down South Jukin'

Ms. Mix and Bitch, let's get some cheap tequila and rock out.

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