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Road Trip Music Of Our Youth / Caspar Salmon

Music | January 19, 2009 | Comments (82)


Childhood is a frightening time. Not until you’ve walked out in the street with no ID, mobile phone, money, keys or sense of direction can you experience again how utterly helpless you used to feel as a child, and how completely reliant on your parents. It’s not that you liked them, so much: it’s just that they knew where you lived, and could drive you there and feed you.

So I think we all give ourselves too much credit for the way we formed our musical tastes. The perennial question ‘what’s the first album you ever bought?’ goes along with this, implying that we were masters of our musical tastes at ten - that we had any sort of agency over what we did. We didn’t, and you know it. The music we listened to most as children was what we damn well had to, or else I’ll stop the car and you’ll just have to walk home. Huh? How would you like that? That’s right: you sat in the back seat for literally thousands of hours while your parents sat in the front and played whatever music they liked, and you just had to shut up and listen to it. And you couldn’t GET OUT. And how much of it did you like? If I’m honest, I think I liked about forty percent of what my parents played - which is a good average if my friends are to be believed: these are war-scarred veterans, telling gruesome tales of bloody encounters with ELO, Chris De Burgh, Tom Jones. I got away lightly.

The all-time number one top artist in my parents’ car, 1980-1998, was Bruce Springsteen. Did I like him? No. No. A thousand times no. Do I like him now? Still not very much - but I know every single one of his songs off by heart. At home my parents had Born To Run and Darkness On The Edge of Town on record, and in the car they had all of his 80s releases on cassette - minus Nebraska (his best album). In the early 90s, the Salmon family gamely persevered with Boss-dreck like Human Touch and Lucky Town. My sister and I were eleven when the latter two came out, and I proudly remember singing along sarcastically with her to Bruce’s woeful “Man’s Job”, whose horrible chorus appallingly goes: “Loving you is a man’s job, baby/Loving you is a man’s job/ Loving you is a man’s job, baby/ Loving you is a man’s job”. Now I know where my fear of lesbians comes from.


“The River”

The reason I hated Bruce Springsteen, and why I also hated Bob Dylan, Eric Clapton, Rod Stewart and Joe Cocker - who were all firm staples in my parents’ car - is that I loved beautiful, clear voices. The vocals of Bob Dylan seemed a complete nonsense to me: it was plain to hear that the man just couldn’t sing. And he didn’t write wonderful songs, either: a lot of them were just endless lists of words repeated over and over, with a droning voice and no melody. My most despised song by Dylan was “Maggie’s Farm”, which in my mind I associated with one of my most hated Rod Stewart songs, “Maggie May” (what’s with all the Maggies?). In turn, I obscurely connected both songs with Margaret Thatcher, I think (and if my parents had taught me anything, it was to despise anyone from the Conservative party, and especially Thatcher, as they were in the habit of stealing from the poor to give to the rich).

Back to Dylan though: I also loathed “A Hard Rain’s A-Gonna Fall” - what on earth was he talking about, and why did the song last so Christing long? Even now I think my child self was right to dismiss as total guff this ceaseless parade of stuff the narrator has seen: “I saw ten thousand blackbirds, they were feasting on chicken/I saw Soviet ball-gowns, embroidered with barley”, and all that bard-as-prophet crap. Whatever, Bob. These days I still can’t bear to listen to Rod Stewart, but I managed to conquer my distaste for Bob Dylan (chiefly because he’s really good, which helps), growing to like him for the first time in my life when I was about twenty-one. But I had to work at it! Very hard! These childhood things are ingrained in you like racism.

Paul Simon fared a little better than the growlers. Like anyone alive in the 80s, my parents owned Graceland. But they also had Paul Simon, and Still Crazy After All These Years, amongst others. And Paul Simon had a perfectly agreeable (read: boring) voice, and there were some lovely, bouncy songs to enjoy as a kid: “Mother And Child Reunion”, and “Me and Julio Down By The Schoolyard” especially, with its joyous shout of ‘WOAH-OH’. I wasn’t so keen on the African stuff on Graceland so much - “Diamonds On The Soles Of Her Shoes” was clearly awful, and the shrieking by Ladysmith Black Mambazo, on “I Know What I Know” sounded ghastly. Only now is my generation reclaiming Paul Simon from car-memories: if I ever hear “You Can Call Me Al”, it sends waves of sheer joy coursing through me, but I couldn’t listen to him for about fifteen years.


“You Can Call Me Al”

The other biggies at the time were Madonna, whose album True Blue my parents owned for some reason I can’t quite understand, and Ella Fitzgerald singing The Cole Porter Songbook - both huge favourites with the kids. It seems odd now, in light of the horrific monster she’s become, but back then Madonna was fun, and endearing. Do you remember that? Listening and singing along to “True Blue” with its infectious bubblegum tune, on a summer’s day with the windows down, was to be entirely, innocently, blissfully carefree. We sang to all sorts of lyrics we didn’t understand - “Papa Don’t Preach” springs to mind (and the line “I’m gonna keep my baby” most notably - which, my father lyingly told us, meant that she was going to remain with her boyfriend, and not split up with him. I don’t blame him for chickening out - abortion would have been difficult to explain to six-year-olds). But we also didn’t understand the sultry ambiguities and innuendoes of Cole Porter, either - which didn’t stop us singing along to “I Get A Kick Out Of You”, with its references to cocaine, or “Too Darn Hot”, with its saucy allusion to the Kinsey Report.


“True Blue”

Now to the crimes: I’m afraid to say my parents got caught up in the late 80s Enya frenzy, and we all had to endure Watermark and Shepherd Moons at great length. We children loathed Enya with all our heart, and I still have very vivid memories of driving home from the countryside on a dark and cold Sunday night, thinking about the homework I still had to do, listening to “Orinoco (goddamn) Flow”. And Dire Straits! Hoo mama - I loved Dire Straits, I confess it. “Walk of Life” was obviously the best song in the world, and “Money For Nothing” wasn’t bad either. Or so I thought at the time: I can’t fucking stand Dire Straits now, of course - but this was the 80s, before CDs, and before I had proper opinions based on reason and experience.

As we started to grow up and exert a little more influence on the tape decks, Janis Joplin, Stevie Wonder, Aretha Franklin and The Beatles all had their turn in the limelight (this was when I was about twelve or so), and for some reason my parents also let us listen to the Bodyguard soundtrack in the car. R.E.M and Tracy Chapman, later on, were bands my parents were discerning enough not to veto, but they wisely drew the line at the Cranberries.

As for how all of this influenced my musical tastes, I’m not too certain. I love a husky or a nasal voice, these days, which is something I couldn’t stomach back then - it’s something to do with a melody needing to be obvious and not have anything get in its way for a child to like it. Nowadays I like the way a singer does something different and bends the song to his or her own quirks. But I still sort of think that a child is often a good measure of the quality of a song: quit the fuss, get straight to the melody, put something in there to sing along to - who can argue with those demands? That’s the recipe for great pop. I also can’t help wondering whether children of the 2000s will be complaining, in years to come, of being made to listen to Radiohead and The Arcade Fire. I hope so.

What were you forced to go through, as a child? Musically speaking, I mean: this is not the place for dark recollections.
—Caspar Salmon









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Comments

Hating on Enya?

*rollseyes*

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at January 19, 2009 1:03 PM

Ha! My dad loves Maggie May. He thinks it's fresh and different to any other song, and we sing along to it.

Funny thing, singing about a cougar with your dad...

Posted by: Sofía at January 19, 2009 1:09 PM

Steely Dan. My stepfather was a huge Steely Dan fan, and Mr. Slay is constantly surprised by my vast knowledge of the Dan discography.

He also listened to The Police, Elvis Costello, Psychedelic Furs and various other people I consider mainstays of my musical tastes, but, man. Steely Dan.

And Yes. Lots of Yes.

Posted by: Slay Belle at January 19, 2009 1:10 PM

The two most popular road cassettes of my childhood were the soundtracks to Eddie and the Cruisers and The Last of the Mohicans. Not sure why my parents were so big on soundtracks (they also listened to the Dances with Wolves soundtrack a lot, now that I think about it). Not too offensive, I suppose, just not very good either.

The first two tapes I bought with *my* money were Wilson Phillips' self-titled album and Dire Straits' "Brothers in Arms." I thought that Money for Nothing was the best, most rockin' song on earth for a couple of years.

Posted by: Mattfactor at January 19, 2009 1:15 PM

I listened to a lot of Don Henley/The Eagles in the car. I got my revenge with various Muppets tapes.

Posted by: Claire at January 19, 2009 1:19 PM

I actually ended up with the opposite effect; I have an odd sentimental affinity for the albums and artists my parents played in the car...Graceland included...also Journey's Raised on Radio and Greatest Hits, Billy Joel, and Dire Straits too. None of that really fits in with what I listen to on a regular basis, but I guess I have good associations and I will totally sing along to it if it comes on at a bar and I am drunk.

Posted by: MG at January 19, 2009 1:19 PM

Jim Croce. I have pretty vivid memories of singing along to "Big Bad Leroy Brown" as a 6 year old. On the way to cut someone of course.

Posted by: MrCreosote at January 19, 2009 1:21 PM

This relates to being a little older, but 14 is still at an age where my mother had veto power. Every time we had to Clean the House (we had a daycare, so this was often) she would put five discs of Celine Dion into the player and hit shuffle. The smell of bleach and the vocal stylings of a cat in heat, it was MADNESS, cruel and unusual doesn't even cover it.

Although as revenge I would blare Korn and Smashing Pumpkins from my bedroom, and corrupted the 2 yr old to the point where she would try to sing along with me and head bang. She moved away before I could teach her the devil horns... oh, well.

Posted by: Morgagod at January 19, 2009 1:24 PM

The worst was Meastloaf. I just couldn't stand it, and to this day, I get cold chills whenever I hear the name. Other nausea inducements included Little Feet and Dire Straits.

On the good side my parents were into some pretty decent music. Led Zepplin, ACDC and....wait for it....Chaka Khan.

Yeah I said it.

Posted by: admin at January 19, 2009 1:24 PM

MG: Same. I look back fondly on songs we listened to in the car. My parents were radio people, for the most part, but had 8-tracks (yes, I'm old) for Earth, Wind & Fire, Donna Summer, and ABBA. We also had an Oldsmobile (again, I'm old) that came with a complimentary tape that had lots of cornball classics that I still love, i.e. "When You're in Love with a Beautiful Woman" and lots of Leo Sayer (who I love to this day). We listened to lots of Elton John and Wings and that kind of thing. I loved just about all of it (and still do).

Posted by: samantha t at January 19, 2009 1:25 PM

I'm with MG, I get all sentimental and schmoopy when I hear something my parents used to play.

My dad, he was an eclectic man as far as music went. I was raised on Doobie Brothers, Average White Band, George Clinton, Billy Cobham (Total Eclipse is still my favorite song) and Stravinsky. Not only would he play all kinds of music, he would sing along with all the different instrumental parts (making bass-plunky noises is hard sometimes, but I still catch myself doing it).

My mom though, she was all about stuff you could sing to and harmonize with. Also, she had this old Reader's Digest piano book full of old standards (it was green) that she played from every day and I can still tell you that the first song in the book was Ain't She Sweet. Followed by Bye Bye Blackbird.

By the time I was in high school, Mom was listening to the music I liked (watching your Mom blare Offspring and King Missile out of her Mom van while you're driving through the French Quarter is kind of awesome and hilarious). So when we were all in the car, Dad would bitch that Mom had the bass turned up, and she was smack his hand away and snarl at him for daring to touch her equalizer. Good times.

Posted by: Sharon at January 19, 2009 1:29 PM

Mom: Kenny Rogers, George Strait, Merle Haggard, Randy Travis.

Dad: Irene Cara, Toto, Peter Frampton.

I didn't have a chance.

Caspar: Your parents were awesome.

Posted by: Dustin Rowles at January 19, 2009 1:30 PM

Since I was born in late 1968 my dad crammed a bunch into my damaged but still functioning ears.

Edgar Winter- Frankenstein bass riff kept me up at night.
Deep Purple- I think is still remember the order of Machine Head
Aerosmith- Dad's CB handle
Uriah Heep- Cool album covers though
The Eagles- Hate/d: Take it Easy
Fleetwood Mac- Nothing like the Rumors album waking you out of a sound sleep on a school night.

Stuff I still listen to: Neil Diamond, Zepplin, Elton John, Roy Orbison, Mason Profitt, Jethro Tull, Gordon Lightfoot

Even the stuff I hated shaped what I would buy. I had to listen to guitar based stuff. The
first album I owned was REO Speedwagon: Hi-Infidelity, first tape Journey: Escape, first CD REM: Document.
Never owned Madonna, Michael Jackson or Duran Duran though I was in the main demographic at the time, I did not consider this to be 'real' music at the time.

Posted by: richmac at January 19, 2009 1:31 PM

Oh MrCreosote, Jim Croce was in our house a lot. That other song, though. . . you don't tug on Superman's cape, you don't spit into the wind. You don't pull the mask off the ole Lone Range and you don't mess around with Jim.

I still love that one.

Posted by: Sharon at January 19, 2009 1:34 PM

I remember my old man playing Al Green's "Tired of Being Alone" all the time when we got in the car.

Posted by: Pookie at January 19, 2009 1:36 PM

My parents had pretty decent taste in music, and just about all the rock basics were part of my musical upbringing.

Some may make me cringe in hindsight, but banging away at some pots and pans on a saturday morning, screaming along to "The final countdown", is the monkey SHIT when your eight years old. Driving favourits were Queen, Marillion (Fish), Metallica and Eric Clapton.

My dad is still really in to music, although he's currently going through a pop/goth/rock (à la Within Temptation) fase. I detest it with a passion but do think it's really cool that he remains this passionate about music.

Posted by: Pants at January 19, 2009 1:37 PM

*you're*

...fuck...

Posted by: Pants at January 19, 2009 1:40 PM

My parents are fucking enigmas. I was raised driving around in a beat-up station wagon, listening to Simon and Garfunkel, Dylan, Croce, Marley, and Motown.

But also Billy Ocean, Lionel Ritchie, and Gloria Estefan.

How does one reconcile these things, I ask you?

HOW?!?!?!

Posted by: TK at January 19, 2009 1:44 PM

Also, "You Can Call Me Al" is one of the greatest videos ever made. To this day, I love it.

Posted by: TK at January 19, 2009 1:46 PM

I was actually quite happy with my parents music for the most part. My dad was all about Creedence Clearwater Revival and my mom listened to a lot of Janis Joplin. The music choices for car rides only became questionable when they allowed my brothers and me to choose the music. It was always either the soundtrack to Highlander or Top Gun. I really have no further comment on that.

Posted by: cinnabarri girl at January 19, 2009 1:46 PM

My mom was the musical influence in my household. It had pretty heavy 1970's influence as I was born in 81. She made me listen to the following:

The Beatles
Lynyrd Skynyrd
The Eagles
Three Dog Night
CCR
Charlie Daniels
Good old country music: Patsy Cline, Hank, George Strait and a slew of others
The blues: Louis Armstrong, Etta James, and others
All the hits from the 60's and 70's that were not disco as my mom HATES disco.

She also gave me an irrational dislike of Neil Diamond by making me listen to him for days on end. I still consider Neil the weak spot in my mom's otherwise good taste.

Posted by: Melody at January 19, 2009 1:48 PM

ah, this is a lovely little diversion for the time when i go dead inside at work.

i was born in 1970, cleveland OH. we had a ford pinto with AM radio, and a van with an 8 track.

the pinto was always tuned to WGAR, classic country stuff like george jones, tammy wynette & loretta lynn.

the van was for weekend road trips, and i only remember we only had a few 8 tracks. my favorites were jim croce & hank williams (senior, duh!)

like others have posted, i have vivid memories of singing along "bad leroy brown".

once i started driving, i had a tape deck and got to pick what i listened to. mostly REM, the cure, and the smiths.

a favorite memory is of taking my grandma to run some errands and her commenting on a smiths song, saying, "that lady certainly has an interesting voice!"

:)

Posted by: glittergirl at January 19, 2009 1:52 PM

How does one reconcile these things, I ask you?

HOW?!?!?!

You don't TK. My parents were similar, tell your therapist and move on.

Posted by: admin at January 19, 2009 1:52 PM

I LOVE my mother's taste in music, and just thinking about it makes me homesick.

We're from KY, so we had a pretty strong country contingent on the playlist. Willie Nelson factored prominently. In fact, so much so that I thought we were related to him. As a baby, they dressed me up like him (or at least gave me a bandana headband like he is known to wear.) He was like an old, stoned grandpa that I never saw...

Besides Willie, there was Conway Twitty and Loretta Lynn (especially You're the Reason Our Kids Are Ugly) and David Allan Coe's You Never Even Called Me By My Name.

The Mamas and the Papas and Peter, Paul and Mary were also major favorites. And I have a vivid recollection of singing Why Don't We Get Drunk and Screw? by Jimmy Buffet in the car on the way to school.

Posted by: The Wandering Parakeet at January 19, 2009 1:53 PM

My mom's favorite artist is Bruce Springsteen, and I still enjoy his music despite how ever many times I had to listen to that god damned Red Headed Woman song. "No mom, it's not about YOU no matter how many times you repeat it." She's also really into The Clash, Arcade Fire, Tom Petty, The Beach Boys, Roxy Music...:trying to picture the front seat of her car:, musical soundtracks from Phantom and Jesus Christ Superstar, Fleetwood Mac, etc.

And yet she's a huge Moody Blues fan, and now fuck me up the ass, I have "Wildest Dreams" stuck in my head. Oh heavens.

My dad loved E.L.O., and I have a nostalgic love for them now too. He also likes Tracy Chapman, Meatloaf, and Pink Floyd.

Posted by: Julie at January 19, 2009 1:53 PM

It's not that you liked them, so much: it's just that they knew where you lived, and could drive you there and feed you.

Um, I liked my parents. Does that disqualify me?

Posted by: Snath at January 19, 2009 1:55 PM

Lookit, I don't come here every day with the sole intention of being a dick-ess, but today I've had it. First the set-up is changed to more frequent, shorter threads to accommodate those with the attention span of a newt. Then, for some inexplicable reason, we have to bend to the soporific needs of the west coast, leaving those of us who live further east out in the cold until 11 am. And now we have someone who was 10 when Madonna was "relevant", who can't understand the meaning of a fucking anvil-laden Bob Dylan song telling us that Bruce Springsteen is not that great. Bruce fucking Springsteen produces "dreck"??????

Where the hell is Pajiba and how do I get back there?

Posted by: PaddyDog at January 19, 2009 1:57 PM

Awww, "Maggie May" is one of my favoritest songs ever. And I don't even like Rod Stewart.

My parents have different tastes in music: my dad is all classic rock and old-school country, while my mom is into pop. So I was exposed to a variety of music while growing up, and most of it I still love. (Hey, I'm not ashamed to love chronically unhip music. I still rock out unironically to Duran Duran.)

From my mom, I got my undying love of all things Fleetwood Mac. Also Elton John, Paul Simon, the Police, Genesis, and George Michael. (Yes, George Michael, and you can never convince me that he is not awesome. NEVER.)

From my dad: the Stones, Jimi Hendrix, Big Brother & the Holding Company (oh, how we loved to sing "Mercedes Benz" at top volume to annoy the crap out of my mom), Jim Croce, Merle Haggard, and Chet Atkins.

They both loved the Beatles and the Temptations.

And I'll always be grateful to my parents for exposing me to what has been my favorite album for, oh, 20 years now: Cat Stevens's "Tea for the Tillerman."

Posted by: Whitney G at January 19, 2009 2:01 PM

Snath I always knew that there was something weird about you. What sane person loves their parents? I hope you get the counseling you need.

Posted by: Pookie at January 19, 2009 2:01 PM

I agree with most of what you said, PaddyDog. I'm not so sure about this Caspar Salmon character, either. Seems so blatantly antagonistic on the posts he's done.

Clarification, Pookie. I liked my Dad, my mom has been a fucking cave troll since he died, and that was twelve years ago, next month.

Posted by: Snath at January 19, 2009 2:07 PM

Snath:

Thanks for the support but more importantly, my mother turned into an incredible cave troll after my father died (I was 12 at the time) so I fully appreciate what you're going through. I wish I could say it gets better, but my dad's 31st anniversary of his death was last year and I'm still waiting for her to go back to being the woman I knew as a child.

Posted by: PaddyDog at January 19, 2009 2:10 PM

My parents had much better taste than I did for a while. Simon and Garfunkel, Beatles, Joplin, Rolling Stones, Led Zep, Armstrong, Clapton, stuff like that. The only car ride sounds I didn't like came out of their mouths.

Posted by: Sabrina at January 19, 2009 2:11 PM

PaddyDog, chill. People have different tastes in music. Just because someone doesn't like Bruce Springsteen doesn't mean he/she is a lesser person. I also don't like The Boss (except for Born in the U.S.A.), but I feel that I still have worth as a human being.

Moving on... I forgot Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers and John (Cougar) Mellencamp, both of whom are loved by my parents and by me.

Caspar: I also can't help wondering whether children of the 2000s will be complaining, in years to come, of being made to listen to Radiohead and The Arcade Fire. I hope so.
I complain NOW if I'm forced to listen to Radiohead (Arcade Fire is OK). I like "Idioteque" from Kid A and "Anyone Can Play Guitar" (Pablo Honey), but that's it. One of my friends summed up Radiohead and its ilk perfectly: "Waa, waa, life sucks, I'm so important and smart, waa, waa." No, thanks. I never applied for that Hipster License.

Posted by: Whitney G at January 19, 2009 2:13 PM

Mom's side: Israeli folk music and lots and lots of Donovan...and Bruce Springstein.

Step-dad: Tower of Power, Billie Preston, James Brown, Chuck Brown, etc.

Father: Miles Davis and the Beatles

Step-mom: French lady singers like Francoise Hardy.

On vacation with my mom and step-dad, it was all about translating James Brown's Jive: "I'm feeling pretty good", etc.

On vacation with my father and step-mom: lots and lots of Serge Gainsbourg and Carly Simon.

I don't know what that says about me.

Posted by: Estelle at January 19, 2009 2:16 PM

VAN MORRISON. I never let that one go either.

Posted by: Lucie at January 19, 2009 2:20 PM

Kind of Blue- Miles Davis
My Favorite Things LP- John Coltrane
*Anything* Sade

Sure, I was almost entirely sheltered from pop and rock throughout the 80's and most of the 90's, but car trip music was so soothing that trips through the California Grapevine are my favorite passtime to this day.

I could go another 20 years without ever hearing Anita Baker's voice again, though.

Posted by: Sweetie Dahling at January 19, 2009 2:23 PM

I was 14 at the time, PaddyDog. Similar situation...I guess I have a lot to look forward to.

Posted by: Snath at January 19, 2009 2:25 PM

"a favorite memory is of taking my grandma to run some errands and her commenting on a smiths song, saying, "that lady certainly has an interesting voice!"

Oh, my God - that is one of the funniest things I've read in a while. Morrissey himself would laugh his ass off at that one.

Posted by: samantha t at January 19, 2009 2:26 PM

Pants, do you still listen to Marillion and/or Fish? Fish's latest was really good.

Do not find to many of us on this side of the Atlantic and would have to directly order his music from his site.

Posted by: richmac at January 19, 2009 2:28 PM

My parents were total fucking opposites. With my dad it was ALWAYS reggae. Not good reggae, mind you. But bad I-picked-this-up-at-the-car-wash-and-no-amount-of-weed-can-make-this-bearable reggae. HE'S JAMAICAN! He should know better! The first time that I ever cursed in front of him was because I was threatening to pummel him with a steel drum. With my mom (a Jamaican with taste), it was all rock, grunge, and a dash of metal. And even though I listened to a lot of rap and r&b at the time, I tried to avoid it in their presence. One incident of unknowingly singing about being a freak in sheets in front of them is enough for me.

Posted by: jM at January 19, 2009 2:34 PM

Shockingly similar to the author actually. My dad had one Enya tape that he would play whenever we went on a road trip, but only on road trips. Due to that it had some good connotations though I did eventually get pretty sick of it.

Other than that we usually just had it on the local 70's rock station, or sometimes oldies. I commandeered the radio at an early age, what with no mom up front to do the honors. I'd keep it flipping through every station but rap, so we heard Motown, rock, alternative, boy bands, madrigals, and boot-scootin' boogies but never sat through a commercial.

I definitely remember a fair bit of Carole King, Carly Simon, Simon and Gardunkel/Paul Simon/Edie Brickell and the New Bohemians, Dire Straits, Janis Ian, Led Zeppelin, and The Who. He laso loved Helen Reddy, Linda Ronstadt, and Belinda Carlisle. A sucker for a clear soprano. I liked a lot of his stuff but could never get behind Carole King, sorry dad.

It was the stuff my mom played around the house that was torture. She owned maybe two albums that were on endless repeat. One was The Judds. You cannot imagine my joy that they do not play "Mama He's Crazy" on the radio. Another was Mary Chapin Carpenter, after having witnessed her very limited mothering and wif'ing skills firsthand, listening to her bellow "He Thinks He'll Keep Her" was a regular laugh riot.

Although I do prefer that to what she does now, which is to turn any and all radio or music (including NPR) off after five minutes, declaring that it's "giving her a headache".

Incidentally, the first cd I purchased for myself was a 70's rock compilation, the second was Spice Girls. The No Doubt was a gift.

Posted by: TryScience at January 19, 2009 2:38 PM

I'd say something snotty in return, but you like Cat Stevens so I won't waste my breath.

Pants, I don't know if it's your term or not but "the monkey shit" definitely has a place in my heart now.

Posted by: Jay at January 19, 2009 2:38 PM

If I'm perfectly honest richmac, we've lost track of him on this side of the pond as well. I've snatched a few cd's from my dad's collection (he only plays music through his computer these days) and when I'm feeling melancholy I play those in the car, but that stuff is old as fuck. But I'll give his new stuff a listen if you say it's good.

Posted by: Pants at January 19, 2009 2:42 PM

TK,

My parents are fucking enigmas. I was raised driving around in a beat-up station wagon, listening to Simon and Garfunkel, Dylan, Croce, Marley, and Motown.

But also Billy Ocean, Lionel Ritchie, and Gloria Estefan.

My dad was the same (minus the Marley and Billy Ocean), I find the end result is that I can listen to pretty much anything with an open mind.

Posted by: TryScience at January 19, 2009 2:46 PM

I was raised by my dad on a strange mix of John Denver, Simon & Garfunkel, Peter, Paul and Mary, and lesbian separatist music (Chris Williamson, Meg Christian, etc.). Eventually he started on a strict diet of Classical. I think my step-mother drove him to it, her taste ran to musicals and Barry Fucking Manilow.

I do remember riding in the car with my dad when he heard "Slip Sliding Away" came on. He was very excited about there being a new Paul Simon song. I was at that age which meant I automatically hated it and anything Paul Simon ever did. Luckily I was set straight by some friends in college.

My mom was all about Bee Gees, ABBA, and Neil Diamond, but I didn't grow up with her, so it didn't have much influence.

Posted by: Lee at January 19, 2009 2:49 PM

My parents met because my dad was in a reggae band with my mom's best friend. In 1980, in Central CA. That relationship didn't last long, but mom still has a soft spot for reggae.

Mom: Bob Marley, Jimmy Cliff, etc. Bob Dylan, The Beatles. She kind of kept up with current music too, I remember her having a cassette of Blood, Sugar, Sex, Magic when it came out.

Dad: Music was serious business with him. Reggae band, lots of folk music. I remember driving with him and listening to Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young and learning about the Vietnam War and what a conscientious objector was. I must have been around 9 at the time.

Step-dad: Huge Hippie. CSN&Y, Neil Young's solo work, and The Clash. Always The Clash. He'd put Combat Rock on at 5am to wake us up. Mom would counter with Dylan if she got up earlier than him. All I Really Wanna Do has a special place of hatred in my heart.

Step-mom: A lot younger than the rest of my parents. She listened to a lot of K.D. Lang and Melissa Etheridge. (and surprisingly, not a lesbian) Also Leonard Cohen.

I have some fond memories of their music, but really, I've heard enough Clash albums and concert bootlegs to last a lifetime.

Posted by: Jessimuhka at January 19, 2009 2:53 PM

Up until the last couple of years I LOATHED CBC radio one because it was the only thing my Mom listened to in the car as she shuttled my brother and I along highway 2 to various extracurricular activities and family outings. I just wanted to sing along to something! To this day, I can name you what program is starting by the theme song, although I don't avoid them like the plague as I did in the days right after I got my own licence.
My other poignant music memories from childhood were Thursday nights when my Mom went to meetings and my Dad "cleaned"- essentially threw away anything lying out- to The Doors, Fleetwood Mac, and John Prine, all played on original vinyl that he's had since college.

Posted by: Rahel at January 19, 2009 3:20 PM

Broadway original cast recordings - I know the libretto of every single musical that ever even had a glimmer of a hope of perhaps maybe thinking about being on the Great White Way. While some of them are complete dreck, I still have fond memories of singing "The Glory that is Greece" in music class. And of course, the throbbing, stroke-inducing popping veins in Sister Marcianne's temple when I got to the line about "We give you sex, that's ambidex..."

I didn't know what it meant at the time, but I specialized in tormenting nuns and that was a great highlight...

Posted by: funtime42 at January 19, 2009 3:22 PM

Abba, Abba, and still more Abba. Oh, it's been a long road you too-blonde too perfect Swedish masters of the Harmony.

It's been punctuated by trying to listen to the other side of you. Metallica, Raised fist, Pantera, the Offspring, anything that would be played fast and loud. But then came a revival, a reunion of sorts, with the world of pop.

This new year's, while at my Mom's house, rifling through her cd's I found you there. Your title, "Gold", smelled of pretension, of an uncanny sense of entitlement from a band that stopped making songs 30 years ago.

And so, without much enthusiasm, as a curio, I put you in my computer, then on my IPod, thinking, "I'll never listen to this crap."

Then, on the bus ride home, as I sat there, bummed out, thinking about the last of the writing I had to do for my thesis, I put you on, just for kicks.

Oh, Abba, how I'd missed you! Your beautiful harmonies, the incredibly catchy choruses, the bad swedish accent, you were all there! Gimme!Gimme!Gimme! some Abba! I defy anyone to resist the first part of "Super Trouper's" Chorus, when the vocals seem to detach from the rest of the song, as a heavenly choir would!

Come on, Abba, anyone? La question c'est voulez-vous!

Posted by: jpguy13 at January 19, 2009 3:27 PM

My Dad listened to all the great music of the 50s and he still does. And I love that stuff - whether or not it influenced my later tastes. Oddly enough, my husband's father also listened to the same type of music, so we had all 50s music at our wedding reception.
I'm doing my best to open our kids' ears to different kinds of music, though I'll admit to excluding the stuff I don't like (country, new age).

Posted by: Cindy at January 19, 2009 3:34 PM

My dad has kinda terrible taste in music - he likes oldies, but only the bad ones. I do have a soft spot in my heart for The Kingston Trio though. My mom was more into classical and showtunes. Some 80s pop too I guess. I had my own radio as a kid, so my music tastes were mostly dictated by the top 40. On a slightly unrelated note, I used to hate Mellencamp with a passion, but several years removed from southern Indiana and I've realized that I mostly hated him because his music pretty much encapsulates what southern Indiana feels like. Now his music seems slightly nostalgic to me.
Also, don't you diss Dire Straits. Dire Straits gave us "Sultans of Swing."

Posted by: s. pisaster at January 19, 2009 3:41 PM

I don't know why, but I despise "Sultans of Swing". There's no logic behind it. I do like "Skateaway" though, and it sounds a bit like Supertramp's "Goodbye Stranger" which I love without any logic behind it. Took me years to find out what it was called out as I couldn't interpret the falsetto on those random occurrences when I'd hear it.

I told my best friend that I never know what Steely Dan songs are called because the title is not necessarily the hook phrase, so I read titles and hear songs and can't connect them. She thought I was being pretty thick. I cited "Hey Nineteen" ("is that what it's called?") since it's just thrown in before the chorus really starts, "whatever he's saying there".

"'No we can't dance together'? You can't make that out?"

"No!"

I don't really like Steely Dan, but I played "Deacon Blues" a lot when I started my library work, feeling bittersweet as I'd sorta gotten what I wanted, but like Anakin Skywalker, was stewing over having been let in the door but passed over and denied rank. This brother wasn't quite free yet. Curse you, archenemy!

My dad grew up in the 60s but around turning 30 and getting divorced he remade himself into a bit of a redneck, becoming a honky tonk mack (Detroit-born Hungarian with our shared stubby little Hungarian body, but the fucker could dance and the ladies loved 'im) while still loving Motown, Neil Diamond and Dean Martin (which I also do). I tended to hear "Amarillo By Morning" a whole hell of a lot in his truck on the radio and I do have a sort of fondness for it. He was pretty psyched when a friend and I were going to see Neil back around Christmas 1996 and I brought the "In My Lifetime" set the next time we drove to Disney World together, just us two that time, and for the last time as it turned out. He probably didn't love but didn't mind a lot of the cd's I'd brought but during Jonathan Richman's "I, Jonathan" he said "this is good".

Posted by: Jay at January 19, 2009 4:00 PM

Did anyone else grow up in the era of gas station solid gold tapes? Those things were....yep, gold. Hits from the 50s on through to the 80s I think. I'm not sure how many summers of travel it took us to collect them all, but we did. My favourites were the earlier versions.

Aside from that, there was a lot of the Beatles, Clapton, Michael Jackson, Madonna, Jimi Hendrix. Not a bad mix really.

Oh, and the Nylons. Go Canadian a capella group!

Posted by: zygomatique at January 19, 2009 5:54 PM

Stand by Me soundtrack.

Lollipops and rollercoasters and great balls of fire.

Posted by: Mick J at January 19, 2009 6:22 PM

the soundtrack to my childhood was sung by bob segar, and i have an everlasting love for the man.

but dad loved, LOVED george thorogood and stevie ray vaughn. I would plug my ears in protest, and hide his cassettes.

Posted by: samma at January 19, 2009 6:23 PM

Music my mom listened to: old country (The Highwaymen, Randy Travis, K.T. Oslin and the like)...traditional Cape Breton fiddle music...oh, and there was an unfortunate Jive Bunny and the Mastermixers phase there...

Music my dad listened to: Clapton (especially with Cream)...Simon and Garfunkel...Beatles...The Traveling Wilburys....

Musically speaking, I'm very much a daddy's girl. Oh, and *heehee* "Sultans of Swing" is the one Dire Straits song I like, because it takes me right back to my childhood.

Posted by: meaux at January 19, 2009 6:28 PM

The better half of my life was spent growing up in Iran, hence road trip music that no one will likely know or have heard of.
My dad is crazy about Traditional Iranian music, which is basically alot of wailing and operatic. Funny enough i hated it at the time, and was embarrassed, but now those songs have acquired a sentimental value and I love them dearly.

so here goes.

(1) Shajarian http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFiZEl_jQLw
(2) Banan (great Song) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8PMQtKWaT0
(3) Moeen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sq7YE-AF2pQ
(4) Elaheh http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hT8VD9sOHQc
(5) Marzieh.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFcQgBZmDg4
(6) Hydehe http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SwraWKeMnI

Posted by: Sara Nooraei at January 19, 2009 6:30 PM

Old country? meaux, meaux, meaux, you're not young enough to make me feel that old.

Posted by: Jay at January 19, 2009 6:44 PM

Heehee, I suppose "old country" is a bit of an exaggeration. Not exactly Roy Rogers.

Posted by: meaux at January 19, 2009 6:48 PM

My main memories are of the Guess Who and my timid 12-year-old self being wholly embarrassed by just how loud my dad would play "American Woman".

I embrace it now!

Also, lots of opera - in retrospect, also kind of a kickass thing to blast from the van.

Posted by: Jams at January 19, 2009 6:52 PM

Ooh yes, I totally forgot The Guess Who! Love them!

Posted by: meaux at January 19, 2009 6:58 PM

Oh you should hear my rendition of "These Eyes"! The Jazz Butcher Conspiracy did a version of their song "Sex Engine" using names of Canadian notables. Burton Cummings is, of course, included.

Posted by: Jay at January 19, 2009 7:27 PM

Pants if you are still on this thread at all Check out 4 CDs. Vigil in a Wilderness of Mirrors, Raingods with Zippos, Sunsets on Empire and 13th Star. This is Fish at his best.
And for those of you into Prog Rock, like Rush and Dream Theater this man is worth the time.

Posted by: richmac at January 19, 2009 8:09 PM

One down (Vigil in a Wilderness of Mirrors has been in my possession for years), 3 to go. Grazie mille!

Posted by: Pants at January 19, 2009 8:21 PM

I actually kinda liked most of what they spun - I could leave the Linda Rondstat and Huey Lewis, but the Elvis Costello, Stevie Nicks, Rocky Horror, Madonna and hell...even Doug and the Slugs were pretty fly in my humble opinion. The best was that my dad was a former Toronto teen idol - and kept on playing with the band under my head every night (I could reach down through the heat grate and tickle the drummer's head). I know my classic rock let me tell you, although I cringe a bit at the endless 'rock-and-roll medley' that paid the rent more often than not...'chantilly lace-whole lotta shakin' goin on-blueberry hill-twist and shout-etc.' I kinda got stuck in that era, only freshening up with some good ol' 80's Muchmusic...except for only a wee taster of grunge and techno...that's it for me. Basically everything after 1994 or so is dead to me.

Posted by: replica at January 19, 2009 8:46 PM

Funny - when I was young, my dad had already developed a taste for classical music. What 'popular' music he could stomach on the radio is pretty much 70's stuff.

The Beatles (who I don't care for), The Rolling Stones (who I like), etc.

More interesting is that I like most of the music you've listed. I love the Dire Straits - and pretty much all rock - soft, classic, whatever.

Posted by: psic at January 19, 2009 8:59 PM

Graceland. My god, I love that album.

When I first heard the strains of the accordion at the start of The Boy In The Bubble for the first time in what had to be twelve years, I felt bubbling hot joy in my rectum. Or something.

Posted by: Shadowen at January 19, 2009 10:01 PM

The family car had one cassette: One side was ABBA, the other was The Nylons. We may or may not have had the soundtrack to Les Miserables and/or Cats. Otherwise, it was ABBA/Nylons time, all the time.

Posted by: Lauren at January 19, 2009 10:21 PM

What did my parents listen to? Ed Ames. Dean Martin. Frank Sinatra. Glen Campbell and Bobby Gentry. The Backporch Majority. The Kingston Trio. Peter, Paul, and Mary. The New Christy Minstrels. Three separate copies of the soundtrack of "The Sound of Music," because they played it until they wore the grooves out. (Grooves? Vinyl? Anyone? ...Oh, never mind.)

No these weren't in the car, which at the time had an AM radio and nothing else, and which luckily played The Beatles, The Stones, America, and whatever else was Top-40 Pop at the time. Worse. These were on a turntable after I went to bed at night, meaning I fell to sleep to them, meaning I still know all the goddamned lyrics FORTY goddamned years later.

Posted by: Camera Obscura at January 19, 2009 10:28 PM

Thanks for the comments so far everyone.

Quick note to Paddydog: I'm sorry to have upset you - but I do understand Bob Dylan, and like his music very much! I was just saying that at the time I hated that song, and still find it somewhat bloated. As for The Boss - well, full respect to him (despite not liking him very much)for his run of 70s and 80s records. I can see the appeal of "Thunder Road", "Brilliant Disguise" and "Badlands", to pick just three songs, as much as the next man. But I know I'm not alone in finding his 90s output inferior: Human Touch especially is the sound of empty machismo, with weak arrangements and tiring fist-pumping choruses, lacking the invention and charm of his earlier releases, in my view. Still, everyone's entitled to their opinions.

Posted by: Caspar at January 20, 2009 1:41 AM

Lauren, we had that tape too, altho the opposite side was Elton John instead of the Nylons. I still love Elton John and Abba. I'm pretty sure my parents didn't listen to anything other than that. But I remember "Daniel" on long car rides.

Side note: I have a theory...Everyone between the ages of 25 and 40 had a copy of Fleetwood Mac's Rumours on vinyl somewhere in their house when they were growing up.

Posted by: Munkymack at January 20, 2009 2:31 AM

Tubular Bells.
Every morning on the way to school Tubular Effing Bells. Do you have any idea what its like to remember your childhood accompanied with the theme tune of the Exorcist?

Posted by: nieve at January 20, 2009 7:08 AM

i wanted to comment on the "rumors" album. i did NOT have a copy, and here's why: a local radio station had call in contests to win stuff. i got on the phone and pretended to be old enough (i was 7 years old but told them i was 16) and i won!

i then somehow convinced my parents to drive me to the radio station, which ended up being in a really scary part of downtown cleveland. it was run-down, scary as hell, and i saw my first hooker!!!

to give my dad credit, he got out of the car and knocked on the station's door, but no one answered. he finally gave up and i cried the whole way home.

that weekend my dad took me to the record store and offered to get me a copy of "rumors". when i saw the cover i was horrified. they looked like some kind of dirty hippies or maybe dancers. i picked a billy joel album instead.

:)

Posted by: glittergirl at January 20, 2009 8:07 AM

My parents are a lot older, so I was subjected to a mixture of classic country (Johnny Cash, Marty Robbins, Loretta Lynn, Lynn Anderson, et al) and since my dad was a long-haul trucker.....all those HORRIBLE sickening trucker songs....like "Teddy Bear." Made me wanna drop thru the hole we had in the floorboard of our Rambler and eat pavement....

Posted by: dammitjanet at January 20, 2009 9:16 AM

When it's 1977 and you're riding in the back of a rusted Chevy Vega that only has an AM radio, you can hardly blame having to hear the BeeGees' "How Deep Is Your Love?" repeatedly on your dad.

Posted by: JrFanBoy at January 20, 2009 12:12 PM

I came up in the late 70's, so my parents were in the full disco swing: Donna Summer, Diana Ross, The BeeGees. My very earliest memories are of Motown, however - the Supremes, the Miracles, the Jackson 5, etc etc. They didn't listen to much rock, which is weird considering that's mostly what I've listened to since I was 12. However, have all those artists on my ipod - I was rocking out James Brown on the way in to work today, in fact.
My godparents introduced me to country: Kenny Rogers, Crystal Gayle, Hank Williams, Patsy Cline, Dolly Parton....When I was 5 I wanted nothing more than to have Gayle's hair. I hate country with a fiery passion these days, but god help me, I have "Lucille" on my ipod too.

Posted by: maylai at January 20, 2009 2:21 PM

lots and lots of roger whittaker, lots, it was awful. neil diamond was also in heavy rotation. and bad country, conway twitty i think? i don't know, it's been blacked out.

Posted by: kkg at January 20, 2009 3:56 PM

roger whittaker. all. the. time.

Posted by: kkg at January 20, 2009 3:59 PM

those HORRIBLE sickening trucker songs

Red Sovine like a MUH-Fucka!

Posted by: Jay at January 20, 2009 4:34 PM

*sigh* My mom had it bad for Ricky Nelson; one measly Ricky Nelson cassette is the entire soundtrack to our yearly family trip to visit relatives. The drive was much too long for one cassette, which meant I usually heard "Mountain of Love" and "Traveling Man" at least twice.

However, thanks to my parents I have a very healthy grasp of music from the fifties through to the seventies, and I love a lot of it, so I can't really complain. Not a big Ricky Nelson fan, though.

Posted by: Lisa at January 20, 2009 7:17 PM

To her credit, my Mom played a mostly innocuous set of things in our car when I was little. I remember hearing Elvis Costello, Beck, early R.E.M., They Might Be Giants, and an assload of the Beatles. She started breaking out things like the Buzzcocks and the Fall once my brother and I were older and less impressionable.

My Dad, I think, just kinda played the radio.

Posted by: Mollie at January 21, 2009 12:18 AM

Wait....I'm your mom?!

Posted by: Jay at January 21, 2009 2:00 PM