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Opening Tracks in a CD Collection / Chris Polley

Music | January 13, 2009 | Comments (85)


WALL-E could have had compact discs for eyes and everyone would have implicitly understood the connection: those silver circles of digital music are (if they were’t already) as good as second-rate coasters nowadays. Maybe this is melodrama, but while my music taste and collection was revolutionized just as everyone else’s with the advent of file-sharing services in the late 90s, I am dreading the day that I can no longer walk into my local record store and hold in my hand my new favorite album. I don’t know how possible that potential reality is, but with the way things have been slowly but surely going over the past decade, and so few advocates for something as non-classic (at least vinyl has its audio purists constantly campaigning for its continued production) as the CD, it seems more probable than not.

The fact that people have forgotten, nay, dismissed, the medium is not surprising: there is nothing notable about it other than the fact that it is the last tangible form of the album. Regardless, it’s what I grew up with and how I fell in love with music in the first place. And since it is human nature to grieve over change, I present to you my first (admittedly futile) attempt at reclaiming the glory of the compact disc. I will begin by focusing on just one of many aspects of the CD that iTunes playlists and Last.fm charts cannot compete with: the opening track. Yes, tracks that begin an album still exist in the nebulous arena of the Internet, but in this writer’s humble opinion, there is a completely different feeling that swims into the ears when that first song blasts through the speakers from putting that thin disc in the car stereo in comparison to pressing a plastic play button on a cell phone-sized box.

Keep in mind I am only presenting my favorite opening tracks from my own CD collection. They are in no way the best opening tracks of all time, or even of the past fifteen or so years. When Pajiba Music started, a particularly eloquent Eloquent stated something to the effect of: “this will be interesting, because music is tragically personal.” I whole-heartedly agree. So please give your own anecdotes about favorite opening tracks in your own CD collection in the comments below. Just because it’s personal doesn’t mean you can’t share the passion and the memories, right?

americanfootball.jpg“Never Meant” from American Football by American Football
[Polyvinyl Records, 1999]

I received this CD as a birthday present during the first semester of my freshman year at college in Minneapolis. It came by way of a high school friend who had retreated the Midwest in favor of Los Angeles. Though I have since grown to love the Twin Cities and I hate LA, I was intensely jealous of him at the time. No more cold; no more smallness. When I received the slip in my dorm mailbox saying I had a package to pick up at the front desk from Polyvinyl Records, I was confused and excited. It was one of my favorite labels, but I hadn’t ordered anything. It was a few days after my actual birthday, so I didn’t put two and two together until I read the message inside from my friend. It was three months into the semester and I missed my friends who scattered across the country after graduation so much that when I put the CD in my three-piece stereo system and re-read my friend’s note, I trembled a bit with joy and nostalgia. We had gone through our last two years of high school devoutly following the bands that followed the quickly dissolved Chicago’s American Football and its various counterparts: Owen, Owls, The Promise Ring, etc. The sparkling guitars felt like a Midwestern flaky snow hitting the ground in late autumn and remembering the good times that were now over but not forgotten (even though you partly wish you had). Saying goodbye became a little easier on that November afternoon - mostly because I didn’t really have to.

unrest.jpg“Ghost Trains” from Unrest by Erlend Øye
[Astralwerks, 2003]

Fast-forward to sophomore year, where I’ve garnered a small group of loyal and wonderful friends and while my future has by no means become determined, at least I’ve broadened my taste in music. Still sad and contemplative like most of the music that infiltrated my collection, “Ghost Trains” is the perfect introduction to electronica for those bred and coddled by guitars and organic percussion. Released just months before the implosion of laptop-composed pop that was The Postal Service’s Give Up (which I also adore), Øye’s solo album overflows with warm but minimalist dance beats and confidently whispered lyrics. After hearing and playing the track umpteen times on the campus radio station, I picked up the disc at a nearby record store and immediately crowned it with the title “Bedtime CD.” Every night for at least a month, I would fall asleep listening to the calm and collected Øye swoon over “blip blip bleep bloop being young”; the keyboard twists and vocal flutters became intertwined in my mind as I would drift off into a perfect slumber. Before it even reached track two, I would both intensely listen to every nuance and become intoxicated with lethargy. And thus began my infatuation with synthetic instrumentation - all because I had this CD in my ratty old Discman next to my pillow for thirty days.

emergencyresponse.jpg“A Stirsticks Prediction” from The Emergency Response by Despistado
[Jade Tree, 2004]

The next year I’m running the music department of the campus radio station and I wind up with a free press badge for SXSW in Austin in my hand. The only problem: I’m 20-years-old and going to a festival where approximately three out of a million venues aren’t 21+. The same friend from the “Never Meant” memory is also running the music department at his campus radio station and we meet up in Texas on a blazing hot March day with the same problem. So we wander the streets until we find an all ages venue (better sooner than later, because we’re dying from thirst and exhaustion at this point): The Parrish Room is advertising a showcase featuring a new band signed to Jade Tree Records called Despistado. With a fond respect for many of the bands that the Midwestern label put out albums for in the past, including Zero Zero and Pedro The Lion, we took a gamble on it. With enormous black X’s Sharpie’d onto our hands by the bouncer and free waters in hand, we waited patiently through a couple mediocre acts before the band in question took the stage. Suddenly the Canadians (now disbanded) flew into a frenzy of agitated and angular rock riffs with overlapping coarse yelps pouring into the mics and through the monitors - it was love at first note. Eyes wide and wallets full of twenties, we rushed over to the merch table to buy their CD and hold in our palms evidence of this unforgettable experience. “It’s not out yet,” we then hear the guys announce quickly in between other flawless anthems off their debut EP. After playing the waiting game (quite possibly the least fun game ever), I finally got my mitts on it after returning to the Twin Cities, and I haven’t gone a semester without shoving that disc into my car player to steering-wheel-drum along to that song and its subsequent equals since.

matadorsingles.jpg“See Saw” from Matador Singles ‘08 by Jay Reatard
[Matador, 2008]

Four years and two college degrees later, I find myself ambling along through the aisles of the record store (same name, different location) that I went to so often during my undergrad years. With a gift certificate (that’s right, not a plastic card, but a large piece of paper resembling a check, just like the good old days!) from my birthday dinner in hand and an enormous grin on my face, I carefully chose one lucky album to join the shelves alongside the rest of my collection - all representing various parts of my past, all there for me to hold and touch, in completely portable form, one by one lining the wall of my apartment. Something didn’t sit right about buying a CD that was a compilation of seven-inches, which is exactly what this amazing album is, and yet, because of the song I had put on repeat so many times on my home computer (okay, so downloading music can do some good after all), I could not say no to Mr. Jay Reatard. Talk about rousing: this was far and away the best example of kickstarting an album in 2008, in my opinion. His snotty fuck-all attitude is infectious rather than obnoxious, the competing electric and acoustic guitars make it both raucous and inviting, and the sing-along chorus of “she creeps me out / she crept me in again!” is the perfect way to reel in the listener for twelve more tracks. The more I kept the CD in my car stereo the more I realized: who cares if it was all originally on vinyl? Reatard’s obviously a staunch advocate for not just old school turntable listening, but tangible ownership of music in general. So while I might not have bought this CD if it weren’t for my MP3 of “See Saw,” the real love and pride one feels when buying an album, unwrapping it, and pressing play is not lost on the musicians themselves - and they’re the ones who are responsible for the joy you get out of listening to it in the first place. And while that’s not a revelation by any means (it’s how they help pay their rent obviously), it feels good to know that just because something’s dying doesn’t mean it’s not still alive in some way or another.

Chris Polley teaches high school English, often with his hair disheveled and a glint of crazy in his eye, in the Midwest’s greatest city, Minneapolis. He rambles on and conducts discourse with friends and strangers about the horrific beast that is pop culture over at The Blogulator.


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Comments

[Sigh]. Someday maybe I'll have heard of some of the music mentioned in the Pajiba music reviews.

Posted by: stipe42 at January 13, 2009 1:14 PM

Where's the fun in that?

And I nominate the following as my favorite openers:

"Thieves" by Ministry off of The Mind Is A Terrible Thing To Taste

"Land of Sunshine" by Faith No More off of Angel Dust

"Graveyard Shift" by Uncle Tupelo off of No Depression

Carry on.

Posted by: TK at January 13, 2009 1:18 PM

those silver circles of digital music are (if they aren't already) as good as second-rate coasters nowadays.

Whatever, I stopped buying CDs years ago because I use a subscription service, but I also still use my Dora the Explorer portable cd player and Dora can do no wrong, man. She's especially helpful if I'm lost on the subway.

(By the way, I'm purposefully not being annoying and pointing out that the above parenthetical comment is unnecessary. If they are coasters nowadays, that implies they already are. Oh whoops look at that.)

Posted by: Sabrina at January 13, 2009 1:21 PM

I think my favorite Track Ones would be:

"Graduation Day," from Head Automatica's Popaganda. A powerpop masterpiece that starts with just a few quiet piano notes and builds perfectly into an impossible-to-stop-repeating song.

and "The Big Money," from Rush's Power Windows. You wait through those few seconds of silence while the CD clicks, clacks and loads, and then you're face-smashed with a huge opening chord and rocked into the rest of the album.

Also, TK: excellent pick with "Land of Sunshine." Here's how to order!

Posted by: Sean at January 13, 2009 1:28 PM

"One Angry Dwarf" by Ben Folds on Whatever and Ever Amen.

I also love the way "Can't Stand It" ushers in Wilco's Summerteeth.

Also, related: In 1990, I was driving around my brand new used Datsun 280 ZX when my tape player flipped sides -- as some may recall, there's usually about 45 seconds of silence during that time. I don't remember what the album was, either White Lion, Slaughter, or Queensyrche (yeah, I was that guy in 1990), but the first song on that album began with a loud swooping helicopter sound and a series of police sirens. I didn't realize it was the tape, of course, and I nearly drove off an overpass trying to dodge the nonexistent helicopter flying very closely overhead and pulling over to let the nonexistent police cars drive by. Man, did I feel like a jackass when the guitars kicked in.

That's the worst opening track of all time.

Posted by: Dustin Rowles at January 13, 2009 1:31 PM

What about the complete waste of money that they expect us to go through? I have already lived through having a lot of work on vinyl, then having to buy the audio cassette (taping from the record never works out that well), then buying everything I had on cassette in CD form, and now moving everything on to an audio file.
And just to be clear, most new media legal experts believe that it is actually illegal to transfer your own legally bought CDs to your iPod without paying a license fee.
However, as I've posted here before, the biggest loss for me with audio files is the loss of the album. People buy "the song" they like because they heard it somehwere and they don't give a chance to the, frequently superior, other tracks that don't get air play. The "hit" is rarely the best song on the album (at least albums from real musicians).

Posted by: PaddyDog at January 13, 2009 1:36 PM

I believe in hard copies. They're a lot harder to kill than a hard drive. Plus, you get a lot of low quality shit flying around in P2P systems. Free shit is shit, and it wants to kill high fidelity.

"Suki" from "Imperial" by Unrest

"No Action" from "This Years Model" by Elvis Costello

"Chitlins Con Carne" from "Midnight Blue" by Kenny Burrell

"Get Ready For Love" from "Abattoir Blues" by Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds

"2+2=5" from "Hail to the Thief" by Radiohead

"The Game" by Echo & The Bunnymen S/T

Posted by: Jay at January 13, 2009 1:36 PM

"Welcome to the Jungle" by if you don't know the album shoot yourself.

I still buy C.D.'s although it's getting pretty bleak when there is only three good songs per album.

Digital music users:

Is there a sound quality difference between a download and a C.D.? Also, I like my music loud, I like to literally feel it, are there headphones on the market that can somewhat replicate a full sound system?

Posted by: admin at January 13, 2009 1:36 PM

Props to Chris on the Jay Reatard love. One of my favorite opening tracks is from a Reatards album - "Blew My Mind" from GUFU.

The first four Ramones records all have absolutely killer openers - "Blitzkrieg Bop" (s/t), "Glad to See You Go" (Leave Home), "Cretin Hop" (Rocket to Russia) and "I Just Wanna Have Something to Do" (Road to Ruin).

"Hell's Bells" from Back in Black deserves mentioning because it totally sets the tone for the rest of that album but my all-time favorite album opener (and all-time favorite song, period) is "Schizophrenia" by Sonic Youth (Sister).

Posted by: Mattfactor at January 13, 2009 1:37 PM

best opener for a rock compilation: "Sick Sick Sick" from Queens of the Stone Age's Era Vulgaris

best opener for a jazz compilation:

best opener for a pop/rock compilation: "Whoo! Alright--Yeah..Uh huh" from The Rapture's Pieces of the People We Love

best opener for hiphop/dance comp: "Backyard Betty" from Spankrock's YoYoYo

best opener for a Tori Amos compilation: "Big Wheel" from her American Doll Posse

I'll be back with more...

Posted by: boo at January 13, 2009 1:40 PM

Jay: Nice call on "No Action," but I'd have to go with "Welcome to the Working Week" on My Aim is True. Now that's a way to start an album. Short, sweet, and punk-your-face off.

Posted by: Dustin Rowles at January 13, 2009 1:41 PM

How about the opening of Dark Side of the Moon (Pink Floyd for those of you who are the music equivalent of Sarah Palin)?

Posted by: PaddyDog at January 13, 2009 1:41 PM

admin, depends on the audio file. The lower bit rate stuff, at 128 and such, is pretty shitty. But once you get up to the 320's, or better yet FLAC lossless audio files, the sound is just as good. Of course, the downside to iPods is they can't play FLACs (or anything other than mp3's).

As for headphones, I recommend good noise cacelling headphones, like these. They don't come cheap though... the really pricey ones can run upwards of 400 bucks.

Posted by: TK at January 13, 2009 1:45 PM

Dude, I think I love you now.

When I was at the U, I worked for Minitex, in the Biomed Library in Moos Tower. Radio K is one of the only things that made the job bearable. We had it on every day, sweating in our little back room, photocopying medical journals.

I

Posted by: Snath at January 13, 2009 1:49 PM

I forgot you can't use that symbol...

I HEART Chris Polley.

That's better, I guess.

Posted by: Snath at January 13, 2009 1:51 PM

gotta agree with you about there being a tangible difference between digitally owning a song and having it on removable media. Theres something aesthetically great about the sound or the feeling of ejecting a CD and even audio cassetes had that kerlick sound as you opened the walkman. Its like each time you changed CD or tape your head was rewired and your slate wiped clean. It seemed to give the first track so much impetus and immediacy. Its a shame that feeling has been lost. Sometimes gigabytes of choice in music isnt a good thing.

Posted by: jim at January 13, 2009 1:56 PM

Anybody else notice how "The United States of Tara" (almost said "Tata"...damn you Toni Colette and your faux teenager hotness) ads almost outright downplay the Diablo Cody involvement? They don't hesitate to throw Steven Spielberg's name out though.

Methinks Showtime has seen the backlash a'comin, particularly in the fact that I saw the trailer and there was really only one Cody-esque line to be heard. ("I've been digging through your closet and haven't found Narnia.") Hopeful sign, or deceptive advertising?

Posted by: Mike R. at January 13, 2009 1:59 PM

Off the top of my head...

- "You Think I'm Worth a Dollar but I feel like a Millionaire" Queens of the Stone Age
- "Somewhat Damaged" Nine Inch Nails
- "I'm a Tree" Imani Coppola
- "Kiss and Swallow" IAMX
- "Station to Station" David Bowie
- "When Your Number Isn't Up" Mark Lanegan

Posted by: lux at January 13, 2009 2:04 PM

I still prefer CDs to digital.
Some of my favorites...

"Brilliant Mistake" from "King of America" by Elvis Costello

"The Headmaster Ritual" from "Meat is Murder" by The Smiths

"Haunted by You" from "Olympian" by Gene

Posted by: Cindy at January 13, 2009 2:04 PM

I believe in hard copies. They're a lot harder to kill than a hard drive.

I couldn't agree with you more Jay. I had everything loaded into my Xbox360 (yeah, yeah, yeah) and somehow 1,100 songs just dissapeared. Much screaming and cursing ensued.

Thanks for the information TK, a further question though. Are there any portable devices out there that play FLAC's or do you have to download other applications?

Posted by: admin at January 13, 2009 2:04 PM

"Welcome to the Jungle" by if you don't know the album shoot yourself.

Admin, I would have to agree. Anyone who doesn't recognize that as Rachmananoff's instantly recognizable symphony deserves to be shot. A little heavy in the fourth movement, but the opening is simply divine.

Posted by: Mike R. at January 13, 2009 2:05 PM

"Drunken Lullabies" by Flogging Molly on Drunken Lullabies
"Doomsday Averted" by Rasputina on Frustration Plantation. Its really just noise more than a song, but it kinda sets the mood for the rest of the album.

boo, I might be wrong, but I thought "Yo, George" was the opening track for American Doll Posse? I only know that because I tend to skip the first song on most Tori albums because the second song is usually the stronger opener to me.

Posted by: cinnabarri girl at January 13, 2009 2:07 PM

If I had read Jay's comment before posting I would have avoided shamefully neglecting "2+2=5" from Radiohead's "Hail to the Thief"...tsk tsk

Posted by: lux at January 13, 2009 2:07 PM

And let's not forget the bragging rights that go with a CD collection. It's like having a well-stocked book case. Random visitors can't find your iPod, and decide to scroll through it, but they can stand in your living room and browse the CD collection. As a 40-ish person who lives in the suburbs, I take a perverse pleasure in having neighbors troll through my shelves for Josh Groban, Andrea Bocelli and other pre-menopasual schlock and then stare at me curiously when they find nothing they recognize as they clutch their children to the safety of their breasts.
Pretentious? Yes. Why the hell not?

Posted by: PaddyDog at January 13, 2009 2:10 PM

I can think of two great ones off the top of my head, both more recent releases from two of my favorite bands.

"Civil Twilight" off of The Weakerthans' Reunion Tour, and "Time to Waste" off of Alkaline Trio's Crimson.

The Weakerthans in particular really know how to open an album. Reconstruction Site, the first album of theirs I ever listened to, has the great song "(Manifest)", and their album Left and Leaving has "Everything Must Go!".

Left and Leaving is my favorite album of all time, by any band. Simply incredible.

Posted by: Snath at January 13, 2009 2:11 PM

I have to second admin and the choice of "Welcome to the Jungle". Great opening to the best rock and roll album of all time.

I'd like to add "Bring Tha Ruckus" from 36 Chambers of Death, "Shimmy Shimmy Ya" from Return to the 36 Chambers and "Holla If Ya Here Me" from Strictly for My N.I.G.G.A.Z. Some of the best rap album openers out there.

Posted by: courtney 2 at January 13, 2009 2:11 PM

Admin, Sansa makes a couple of good ones - the only catch is that FLAC files, while they sound gorgeous, are hard to find. But the main reason I use a non-iPod is because it also plays WMV's, OGG's and a bunch of other formats, so you don't have to worry about losing quality by converting to MP3. But the key is really the bitrate, not necessarily the file type. Shoot for around the 320 mark and you'll be satisfied.

Posted by: TK at January 13, 2009 2:12 PM

This might be weird, but one of my favorite intros is the horn intro to Modest Mouse's Good News... It's only 10 seconds, but it instantly gets me in the mood to hear the entire album.

Santogold's "LES Artistes" is also kickass. Ted Leo's "Biomusicology." T.I.'s "King Back." Flaming Lips' "Fight Test."

And while "See Saw" is a good opener, the rest of the album is kind of disappointing to me.

Posted by: Sabrina at January 13, 2009 2:12 PM

Cinabarri girl , I think boo was choosing that song as an opener on an ideal compilation (maybe??)..."Sick, Sick, Sick" is also the second song off of Era Vulgaris, but I think it's stronger than the opener on that album as well.

Posted by: lux at January 13, 2009 2:13 PM

"Hear Me" not "Here Me". Forgive me Tupac!

Posted by: courtney 2 at January 13, 2009 2:14 PM

There are some decent FLAC converters out there that let you switch to MP3 while keeping the quality in the 300 range.

Sacrifice for the sake of convenience I suppose.

Posted by: Some Guy at January 13, 2009 2:17 PM

Ooh, this is fun! My picks:

"The Eraser," from Thom Yorke's album of same name.

"Hard Road," Sam Roberts' We Were Born In a Flame.

And call me crazy, but "Keilbasa" from Tenacious D's self-titled album really sets the tone like no other.

Posted by: meaux at January 13, 2009 2:20 PM

Meaux: hell yes, "Kielbasa" is killer.

Posted by: lux at January 13, 2009 2:26 PM

Thank you TK & Some Guy.

PaddyDog, having a kick ass C.D. collection devoid of crap is not pretentious, it is kick ass. You are right they are wrong. Sacrifice their children, they obviously are not being raised right.

Mike R. I'm choking on my own rage here.

Posted by: admin at January 13, 2009 2:26 PM

You're right, Sabrina, that horn opener to Good News... is great. However, I think "The World At Large" is such a perfect song that I almost always skip the opener and move directly into that track instead. It's my favorite on the album. It perfectly frames the memories of a very happy time in my life and always brings me back there.

I can literally feel the spring breeze and smell the growing things as I remember riding my bike home from work to my crappy little basement apartment that I loved. It's one of the only songs to have that kind of effect on me.

Posted by: Snath at January 13, 2009 2:28 PM

Sometimes gigabytes of choice in music isnt a good thing.

All of you nostaligizing about cds sound like the old hippies ranting about the superiority of records on the street corner. Nostalgia is remembering all the good with none of the bad.

How about we remember the bad of cds too:

* Portable players! Well, they're five inches wide so they won't fit in any pocket made for rationally sized people. You'll just have to duct tape it to your fucking arm. And don't run too hard or the CD will skip.

*Batteries! Better buy in bulk, no fancy newfangled USB chargers here.

* Giant cases! CDs are bigger than coasters. If you want to take more than a half dozen somewhere, you're going to leave the cases at home and bring a binder. And you though trapper keepers were for kids.

* CD Binders! If you want mobile selection of more than a couple of cds, you will need to meticulously take all of your cds out of their cases and put them in a giant binder. Oh the nostalgia for giant unwieldy things to carry around!

* Scratches! Oops, track seven goes on an infinite loop and sounds like a tiger raping a housecat. Better buy that CD again.

* Road trip! Well if you want to listen to more than an hour of music in a row, you need to either: a. swerve through traffic while you eject a CD, put it away, and try to find another one to insert, b. pull over any time the cd ends, c. listen to the same cd over and over and over and over and over, or d. ....

* CD Changer! That's right, get a CD Changer, otherwise known as an iPod the size of a Buick.

* Audio Books! Like audio books? Funny thing, most books are at least ten cds worth of audio. Nice thick books can be upwards of 30 discs. Don't lose track of which one you were on whilst swerving through traffic switching discs, it'll take a while to try a half dozen cds to figure out where you were last!

* Searching! Oh wasn't it so much fun going through your alphabetized shelves of cds trying to find that one album that got put back wrong/fell behind the others/got left in your girlfriend's car. It was sooooo much fun to spend an hour alphabetizing a pile of discs instead of just typing the name of the cd in a search box.

* Purchasing! Remember poking through the CD store for an hour looking for a couple CDs that no one had ever heard of and most stores didn't carry? That was so much better than the two or three clicks and thirty seconds it takes to acquire any music ever recorded nowadays.

Gosh I just can't believe I stick with this silly iPod of mine. Nostalgia is just memory masturbation.

Posted by: stipe42 at January 13, 2009 2:28 PM

And I thought of another great one! Say what you will about the band and their music, I still have a soft spot for The Bravery's self-titled album. "An Honest Mistake" is amazingly catchy, and it makes me want to dance.

Plus, it's supposedly about how Sam Endicott kissed a male friend while drunk, which makes it infinitely more fascinating.

Posted by: Snath at January 13, 2009 2:34 PM

Okay Stipe42, I'll see you your minor inconveniences and raise you this (which makes me hate APPLE violently):

If you want a CD that hasn't been released in the US, you go to a store specializing in imports or you order it online. For iTunes, you can't use your US iTunes account for UK iTunes or French iTunes, etc. (or the other way around). They have a complete lock on the accessibility of music online and it sucks.

Posted by: PaddyDog at January 13, 2009 2:40 PM

cinnabari girl, lux is right; I chose that as a good opener for a compilation. I usually don't like the opening tracks on most albums (with the exception of Wilco's A Ghost is Born that opens with "At Least That's What You Said". It starts out so nice and low, and then builds beautifully. Such a great start to an album. Le sigh.

Posted by: boo at January 13, 2009 2:40 PM

Ooh, good stuff! I'm going to go for "Reel Around The Fountain" by The Smiths on their debut, "Do I Disappoint You" by Rufus Wainwright on Release The Stars, and "Revelator" by Gillian Welch on Time (The Revelator).

Posted by: Caspar at January 13, 2009 2:42 PM

Paddy, you can always use Amazon to buy MP3's as well - no restrictions like that, and frequently higher bitrates. I never use Itunes anymore because it just a big, sucky racket.

Posted by: TK at January 13, 2009 2:42 PM

Stipe42-

I've always had the opinion that good taste in music (and anything else for that matter) should take work. In order to appreciate it, you need to put in some time. Some of my best memories are from days spent in record stores with friends searching stacks and stacks of CD's (and yes - even vinyl!) for that one elusive album. That experience just can't be recreated with an iTunes or a Rhapsody. With independent record stores closing their doors with more frequency, I'm afraid those experiences will fade away in to the memory banks only to be occasionally stroked by us old hippies (I'm 26).

Posted by: ernesto at January 13, 2009 2:48 PM

But, I do love my iPod.

Posted by: ernesto at January 13, 2009 2:50 PM

stipe, it is not nostalgia. It is ritual. It is all part of it. Get a decent amp and your 180 gram vinyl sounds pretty damn good, and it all feels good. I've got nothing against having portable versions of the good stuff, like airline bottles of booze, but I still want to get a martini from a real bartender and savor the experience.

Again, I wouldn't piss on Steve Jobs if he was on fire.

If I had read Jay's comment before posting

Goddamn "Headmaster Ritual"! GAH!

Posted by: Jay at January 13, 2009 3:11 PM

I've heard differently on the illegality of transferring your CDs to dig. files. That it is a right granted by the supreme court, (from the VHS days) it's the record industry who tells you it's wrong. Ipods will also play AAC files which are better than mp3, you could rip in apple lossless or aiff, but they are so big.
I would buy the actual physical album for the bands I love, I just buy tracks online for the crappy music I like, when I just want one song from say, Rihanna.

Posted by: racahel at January 13, 2009 3:22 PM

I've always had the opinion that good taste in music (and anything else for that matter) should take work.

And what about for people who don't have endless time and money to search stores? I would never have gotten into countless bands over the past couple years if I didn't have Rhapsody, because I wouldn't spend hundreds of dollars on CDs by unknowns each month. (I have musical ADD.)

Posted by: Sabrina at January 13, 2009 3:32 PM

So glad you mentioned American Football. I manlove Mike Kinsella. I bromance him.

If you haven't already, please listen to his subsequent band, Owen. Beautiful guitar arrangements with thoughtful lyrics. It's the soundtrack to a cool, sunny Sunday morning drive down the coast. Or of day-long snuggles and naps in bed with your significant other.

Jeez, I need my penis back. Where did that ex-girlfriend put it again?

Posted by: JapJay at January 13, 2009 4:07 PM

I'm not an unemployed slouch that sits in record stores for days on end either. I'm also not saying that iTunes and Rhapsody don't serve a purpose. The point I was trying to make is part of appreciating good music is putting in the time to appreciate it. As opposed to reading an article on pitchfork, downloading one song, and having it run through your iPod on shuffle once every 20 hours of play. With the digital age and instant gratification of iTunes and the like, my feeling is that (good) bands are going to come and go faster than ever, because noone will have put in as much time to develop as much of a visceral connection with thier music. It's sort of like comparing going to the library and studying in books to researching via wikipedia. They both serve a purpose, one just gives you a better foundation to appreciate what you've learned.

Posted by: ernesto at January 13, 2009 4:07 PM

ernesto, I guess I understand your point, but I also think you're stereotyping the digital listener a bit... me personally, I read about a band that sounds interesting and I download the entire album. I listen to the whole thing, and if I dig it, I keep going. Then I start researching bands that might fall into the same ideology or sound as that band, and down the rabbit hole I go.

I haven't purchased an actual CD in years, but you'll find pretty much only complete albums on my hard drive, all of them listened to, all of them scrutinized. Really, the only thing I miss (and this is a big one) is liner notes, but those can be acquired digitally as well.

Case in point, I started listening to a band recently that I'd read about somewhere - their album is on my ipod, as well as burned to a CD for play in my car, and I can name every track and sing every song. Not all digital music fans suffer from ADD. While I respect the tactile gratification that comes with a physical music collection, don't sell the digital fan short.

Posted by: TK at January 13, 2009 4:13 PM

I like having a CD in that I can't accidentally delete it. And they're more preservable than tapes and records. I never really listen to music directly off them anymore, but every year or so when I have to reformat my hard drives due to my tendency to pirate software that's loaded with viruses, I go back to my five or six CD spindles and re-rip everything.

Posted by: Lucas at January 13, 2009 4:13 PM

I appreciate all those points as well, TK - I do a lot of band shopping and researching online as well. But I do think that while not all digital music fans suffer from ADD, it's a bit of a breeding ground for it. And, I'm sticking to my guns about good bands coming and going much more quickly than ever before because of it.

Posted by: ernesto at January 13, 2009 4:21 PM

Yeah, what TK said. I do have ADD in that I'm always looking for more music, but I also listen to complete albums, and usually check out most of an artist's back catalog. I was just taking issue with you saying you need to put in all that pretty unnecessary effort to have good taste in music. While it might make you focus and appreciate a smaller amount of music, digital vs. CD vs. vinyl has no bearing on taste level.

Posted by: Sabrina at January 13, 2009 4:37 PM

It's odd looking like an alien when you say to people that CD's are too expensive: as if merely using that technology somehow branded you an outsider. But really, the CD deserves its downfall completely, and here's why.

When I was a teenager in the mid-90's I remember there still being equal room in music stores for both CDs and cassettes. At that time, the heightened prices for CDs were believed to be charged because it was a new technology (it wasn't actually, but that's what was told to us).

So when I was still in high school, I could buy, legally, a double-tape, let's say by the Smashing Pumpkins, and it'd cost me about 12,99 Canadian. The thing is, when tapes disappeared, CD prices didn't go down one iota until the last couple of years.

I think that if they had lowered CD prices at tape prices in 97 or 98, the whole music industry wouldn't be in jeopardy as it is now. They got greedy, and drove everybody away.

So really, when you think about it, it's all the CD's fault.

That said, for best opening tracks, here are my humble suggestions:

"Mysteries" on Out of Season by Beth Gibbons and Rustin' man

"One more Time" on Discovery by Daft Punk

"Battery" on Master of Puppets by Metallica

"Needle in the Hay" on Elliott Smith by Elliott Smith

Final one from Québec:

"Le compteur" on Le volume du vent by Karkwa

Posted by: jpguy13 at January 13, 2009 4:42 PM

I think it does, but I'm snobbish and stubborn in the way I do, well, most everything.

But, I think we're all exceptions to the norm in ways we acquire music. Most people don't want to spend hours in a record store. Most people don't want to sit online for an eternity finding new music either.

What I think is sad though, is the the digital culture is killing my preferred avenues of finding music. Yeah, yeah, it's creating new ones and all that, but it's MY preffered avenue, dammit!

Posted by: ernesto at January 13, 2009 4:46 PM

Jesus, jpguy13, those are bitchin' choices. Well done.

"I think it does, but I'm snobbish and stubborn in the way I do, well, most
everything."

Welcome to the club. I made hats. ernesto, I get the feeling that we've actually got similar listening habits, and the disagreement is about format more than philosophy.

Posted by: TK at January 13, 2009 4:48 PM

"Angel of Death" Slayer, Reign in Blood

Posted by: Soylent Green is Sheeple at January 13, 2009 4:49 PM

I think it does, but I'm snobbish and stubborn in the way I do, well, most everything.

Hah, clearly. I disagree, but hey, to each his own.

Posted by: Sabrina at January 13, 2009 4:58 PM

Holy crap, "Mysteries" is a BEAUTIFUL song, jpguy13!Thanks for reminding me - I'm going to listen to it right now.

Posted by: Caspar at January 13, 2009 5:01 PM

Thanks TK,

Posted by: jpguy13 at January 13, 2009 5:14 PM

Holy crap, "Mysteries" is a BEAUTIFUL song, jpguy13!Thanks for reminding me - I'm going to listen to it right now.

To this day, it's the only song that ever made me cry when first listening to it. Bar that, it's the only song that made me cry ever.

Posted by: jpguy13 at January 13, 2009 5:20 PM

"23"-Blonde Redhead
"Harlem"-Bill Withers
"Hands Away"-Interpol
"Lights"-Journey

Posted by: Sabrina at January 13, 2009 5:29 PM

This isn't entirely on-topic, but the drummer from American Football was one of my college English professors. He was adorable.

That is all.

Posted by: LLG at January 13, 2009 5:38 PM

I'll try to limit myself, so these are just some that I've been listening to lately.

"Keep It Loose, Keep It Tight," Amos Lee by Amos Lee
"Narcolepsy," The Unauthorized Biography of Reinhold Messner by Ben Folds Five
"Tangled Up In Blue," Blood on the Tracks by Bob Dylan
"Universal Mind Control," Universal Mind Control by Common

I love all of Lupe's opening tracks too, but I don't want to include them because they have all those intros and shit...lame.

Posted by: Kash at January 13, 2009 5:42 PM

Oh, and "Jenny Don't Be Hasty," These Streets by Paolo Nutini.

Posted by: Kash at January 13, 2009 5:44 PM

It's sort of like comparing going to the library and studying in books to researching via wikipedia. They both serve a purpose, one just gives you a better foundation to appreciate what you've learned.

Words printed on the screen are no different than words printed on a page. The distinction is in the incredible advantages of efficiency and functionality offered by electronics. Search, sort, and filter your way through research without driving to a library and pacing through endless shelves, flipping through endless pages.

I love books, libraries are amongst my favorite places in this all too illiterate world. But to insist that it is a somehow superior form of learning because you work for it is unadulterated, nostalgic, Luddite, stubborn bullshit. You learn by working at learning, not by working at jumping through hoops. The less time I spend driving to libraries, searching through shelves, standing in line to ask a librarian about a volume that isn't where its supposed to be, photocopying journals that aren't allowed out of the library, etc. is time that can be spent learning. Beating one's head against a wall does not magically soften one's skull so that once you finally get to reading, the words somehow filter through to your brain matter easier.

I'm finishing up a master's thesis at the moment in political science/history and have not looked at more than a half dozen physical copies of books. Every academic journal imaginable is available in electronic form through my web browser, every bit of data gathered by various UN organizations is available in downloadable customizable spreadsheets, I've gotten electronic copies of books that only exist in physical form in a hundred libraries in the entire world.

Just because a technology comes along that allows non-elites to access something doesn't mean that it is somehow lesser than the good old days. "Records can't be better than CDs", "mp3s can't be better than CDs", "eBooks can't be better than books", "websites can't be better than newspapers", "blogs can't be better than bbs's".

All of these statements are offered with the exact same presumption that somehow the item in question cannot possibly be appreciated/as valuable/as strong a foundation without working for it. Eliminating more and more bullshit overhead is not cheapening or watering down anything, it is simply making it a more powerful and efficient tool so that the labor you do put in actually goes towards what you are working on instead of on overhead.

[reads back through comment]

Apologies for the vitriol, I seem to be wearing my ranting pants today.

Posted by: stipe42 at January 13, 2009 6:26 PM

Yeah, well they look good on you. Well said.

Posted by: TK at January 13, 2009 6:34 PM

Chris, on the off chance you don't know, Erlend Øye does vocals on "Remind Me" and "Poor Leno" with Röyksopp, also on Astralwerks. Röyksopp has a similiar mellow electronic sound.

Posted by: Stacy at January 13, 2009 6:55 PM

Well stipe42 - I guess I misstated my point in the fact that it's not how you find that gives you the knowledge. What I should have pointed out is the experience of finding it may be just as important as what you found. Obviously, you've gotten to the point where you're writing a thesis paper so you're very passionate or an expert of some sort in your field. My guess is that there were experiences outside of the quick and easy that led you to this point. I'm sure it wasn't easy getting there, and that's what makes it worthwhile.

And, again, to all of your points, technology serves a function. But, it also definitively takes away from certain experiences.

For every one thesis paper you've written using online sources, there's got to be 1,000 kids that can hardly write in anything but text-speak (I know, I've read some of my younger brothers' term papers - and they're A-Students to my chagrin and surprise). For every 1 hard to find import LP I find at the record store, there's 1,000 people that listen to shit music on constant rotation because they don't care to put in time to look for music beyond what's featured on myspace music or the iTunes front page. Now, I don't think it's any different than those that listen to only top 40 radio. However, I do think that music listeners and subscribers are being bombarded more and more every day by the shit that's out there, making it harder for them to develop any sort of taste or even want to become passionate about it.

Am I ludite? Probably. But, do I utilize the internet and digital music stores to enhance what I want to find and how I find it. But, again, I think that some of the digital technology available and soon to come certainly will and has brought around the demise of some very important sources of information. Record stores, newspapers, libraries, etc. Is there room to improve the sources that are dying to make them viable in the future? Sure. Doesn't seem like it's going to happen at the current rate though.

I was also exaggerating all of my points for most of my above comments and stereotyping the digital music listener to counter your previous points, ie memory masturbation and street corner hippies. You're correct about nostalgia being mostly about remembering the good and none of the bad. Is that always such a bad fucking thing?

I just really like to stir the pot. And, it's been a slow week at work.

Posted by: ernesto at January 13, 2009 7:07 PM

I just really like to stir the pot. And, it's been a slow week at work.

Well said, sir, and I definitely appreciate the points you are making. I think the crux though is that people will find ways to be ignorant and lazy regardless of whether we read papyrus, scrolls, books, or lcds. Forcing kids to use books instead of the internet will not make them any more literate, we just associate that illiteracy because their language is colored with the verbiage of the tech age.

Also, you are not me, type your own name in the box! Wait, am I posting responses to myself? Are all of you figments of my imagination?

Posted by: stipe42 at January 13, 2009 7:19 PM

Yeah, sorry about that.

"I think the crux though is that people will find ways to be ignorant and lazy regardless of whether we read papyrus, scrolls, books, or lcds. Forcing kids to use books instead of the internet will not make them any more literate, we just associate that illiteracy because their language is colored with the verbiage of the tech age."

I agree, but I do think that the convenience of digital tech is making it easier and more acceptable to be ignorant and lazy. That's where my issues lie.

Posted by: ernesto at January 13, 2009 7:27 PM

Wait, now someone went back and changed your name. Or did they? Why are the walls bleeding?!?!? Damn you, damn you all!

I think we are going to be at odds on this fundamental point. I think that digital tech makes it harder to be ignorant (godtopus knows people manage it anyway), because there is simply no excuse with all the data and knowledge of the world at your fingertips. Old fashioned research does not through its headaches require you to be more intelligent, just more persistent. And I contend that patience is not a virtue, but an excuse you make for your time being wasted. Impatient people are the ones that figure out more efficient ways to do things, because they can't stand the wait.

Posted by: stipe42 at January 13, 2009 7:41 PM

It's all to mess with the both of us. I'm technologically challenged and therefore don't understand where to type my own name. But, the internets are to a point where it can be easily corrected and make it look like you're schizophrenic.

Posted by: ernesto at January 13, 2009 7:46 PM

[Sigh]. Someday maybe I'll have heard of some of the music mentioned in the Pajiba music reviews.

Ditto. I scan these and never even recognize ANY of the listed ones.

Though I admit I'm not even that into music and it's not a really big deal to me, but still it leaves me feeling a bit inadequate. I just want to fit in, damnit!

Posted by: figgy at January 13, 2009 8:08 PM

I agree that we're going to remain at odds on the fundamentals.

And, I don't think it really has to do with patience as a virtue for me. When I'm listening to an old 7" record or hard to find CD that took me hours to find by digging through rack after rack - I think about the day I found it; who I was with, the record store I was in, the clerks I chatted with, etc.

I'm not an "end is nigh, root of all evil" technophobe, but I also don't think there's anything wrong with having an appreciation for old methods. And yes, I think it also gives me claim to being a better appreciator of music and allows me to say I have better taste than most. Goes back to that whole snob thing, I guess.

Posted by: ernesto at January 13, 2009 8:18 PM

somehow the item in question cannot possibly be appreciated/as valuable/as strong a foundation without working for it.

No, it's just FUN that way! Jesus.

By the same token, when I couldn't give mix tapes to anyone anymore because they stopped putting them in cars, I went out and found software that would let me do much more elaborate stuff than I'd dreamed of doing. Being able to dj the music, to perform the mix, and throw in bells and whistles with sound you can chop up and change and twist and don't fuck up or you've gotta start the whole thing over! Really maddening screwdriver work sometimes when a neat idea keeps failing, but so much damn fun. I once drove all goddamn round Atlanta looking for a vinyl copy of "Sandinista!". It was at the very last place I could think of looking in, but I found a bunch of other stuff on the way. People like things and experiences.

But, again, I stress above all methodology, I won't be a party to sub-par merchandise. If I pay for an album it's not gonna be a bunch of mp3s that aren't even 256. Digital technology has given us incredible tools for mastering sound and video, and for playing them back, so there's no point in convenience if it's...to jump over to another page....just junk food. I want organic Asian market sound reproduction, with the baddest assed hardware to put it through that I can afford.

Posted by: Jay at January 13, 2009 8:18 PM

And to that point Jay, I'll also add that I do think technology kicks ass.

I'm also obviously in to screen printing- everything that I've been screen printing is hand screened because it gives the ink a much richer look. But, all the graphics are scanned in to a computer, or laid out and designed in Illustrator. There are things you can do with a comp that just isn't possible by hand. Or at least not maddeningly difficult. But sometimes old methods are just better.

If I could recreate everything by printing with pen or brush in hand without the press I'm sure it would look EVEN better. That's not going to happen though because I would sooner stab myself in the face than print 100 posters without my wonderful press.

Posted by: ernesto at January 13, 2009 8:33 PM

Is it sad that all of your comments to my first solo post on Pajiba is one of the high points of my life? Thank you all!

Posted by: Chris Polley at January 13, 2009 11:22 PM

My submissions:

"Round Here" - Counting Crows, August and Everything After

"Don't Panic" - Coldplay, Parachutes

"Break on Through" - The Doors, The Best of the Doors

"Head Like a Hole" - Nine Inch Nails, Pretty Hate Machine

"Smack My Bitch Up" - Prodigy, Fat of the Land

"Stinkfist" - Tool, AEnima

Posted by: Melody at January 13, 2009 11:43 PM

Is it sad that all of your comments to my first solo post on Pajiba is one of the high points of my life? Thank you all!

Sad? If you didn't define yourself by our comments, we would have to deal with you. Pooks, glare threateningly at him.

Posted by: stipe42 at January 14, 2009 12:39 AM

I have a bunch.

"Gold Lion" - Yeah Yeah Yeahs, Show Your Bones
"Garden Grove" - Sublime, Sublime
"People of the Sun" - Rage Against the Machine, Evil Empire
"You Think I Ain't Worth A Dollar But I Feel Like A Millionaire" - Queens of the Stone Age, Songs for the Deaf
"Blazing Arrow" - Blackalicious, Blazing Arrow
"Roads Must Roll" - Boom Bip, Seed To Sun
"Lost Ones" - Lauryn Hill, The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill
"Pull Up the People" - M.I.A., Arular
"Sleep to Dream" - Fiona Apple, Tidal
"Daylight" - Aesop Rock, Daylight EP
"Untitled" - Interpol, Turn On Your Bright Lights
"Cochise" - Audioslave,
"Every Day I Love You Less and Less" - Kaiser Chiefs, Employment
"Six Days (Soulwax remix)" - DJ Shadow, The Private Repress
"Things Done Changed" - The Notorious B.I.G., Ready To Die

Posted by: jM at January 14, 2009 6:10 AM

Off the top of my head

Blackened-...And Justice for ALL,Metallica

Stinkfist-Aenima,Tool

Holy Wars...The Punishment Due-Rust In Peace,Megadeth

Posted by: Glyn at January 14, 2009 9:21 AM

"Only Shallow" from Loveless; My Bloody Valentine

"King of Carrot Flowers part 1" from In the Aeroplane Over the Sea; Neutral Milk Hotel

"Debaser" from Doolittle; Pixies

"Sunday Morning" from The Velvet Underground & Nico; The Velvet Underground

"Suffer for Fashion" from Hissing Fauna, Are You the Destroyer?; of Montreal

"Come Together" from Abbey Road; The Beatles

"Summer Babe (Winter Version) from Slanted & Enchanted; Pavement

"My Name is Jonas" from Weezer (The Blue Album); Weezer

"Cherub Rock" from Siamese Dream; The Smashing Pumpkins

"Airbag" from OK Computer; Radiohead

Man, I keep thinking of good ones!

Posted by: gatesong at January 14, 2009 10:09 AM

TK: "Thieves" is such an awesome opening track. No lead-in, no mystery, just immediate energy. I believe that song was put to excellent use in that documentary "Murderball."

Hmmmm....., best opening tracks. I was reflecting yesterday on how "Airbag" is a great opening track on Radiohead's "OK Computer." I also love Elliot Smith's "Sweet Adeline" on XO. There are so many out there.

Posted by: samantha t at January 15, 2009 6:38 AM

Please forgive my forgetfulness, Joe.

"Safe European Home" by The Clash from "Give 'Em Enough Rope"

Posted by: Jay at January 15, 2009 8:38 AM

Wow, Chris, I was totally thinking of bringing up the whole death of the CD thing myself. I have a real love/hate relationship with CDs, as truthfully, I did enjoy vinyl a whole lot more, mostly for the interaction, and I never had any trouble making a high quality recording onto tape (as someone mentioned having trouble with above - try using at least CrO2 tapes, and maybe not using that crap all-in-one component system - wait! Is this pretension?). I liked CDs for other reasons, but after transferring a lot of my records I couldn't get (or didn't want to buy) digitally, I have to say there is a warmness to the vinyl there that the CD doesn't have, that I never noticed before, until listening to the tracks side-by-side on my iPod.


The thing I like the most about CDs and Records, other than the fact that they are collections that occur at a certain time is the artwork and size of the artwork. And that's probably the thing about CDs that I disliked the most. Ever try to clean your pot on a gatefold CD? Of course not, they don't exist! Appreciating music without checking out the album cover is akin to drinking beer only to get drunk - getting drunk is a side benefit. Actually enjoying the aroma and color takes the act of getting drunk to a whole 'nother level.


Oh, and opening songs?


"Set Off Running" Neko Case & Her Boyfriends, from Furnace Room Lullaby


"Black Cow" Steely Dan, Aja
"Divine Intervention" Matthew Sweet, Girlfriend
"And It Stoned Me" Van Morrison, Moondance
"Gun" Uncle Tupelo, Still Feel Gone

Posted by: Jez at January 15, 2009 1:20 PM