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(ed. note — this is the first of two rounds of music reviews today. Tune in again at 4:30 for part 2. Thanks. —TK)

Fobfolie.jpgFall Out Boy: Folie A Deux
[Island Records]

There’s an interesting atmosphere that seems to show up in the comment sections of most of Pajiba’s music posts; a very different attitude than what is generally present in the movie and TV-related posts. The reactions to what TK and Company has to say are generally along the lines of: “man, you guys have really shitty taste in music.” Be it indie, pop, rock, hip-hop or country/folk music being reviewed or highlighted, there’s only about five people per post who are down with that day’s selection. Chalk it up to both the vast ocean of music that’s out there and the incredibly diverse tastes of the readership here, I suppose. With that in mind, I’m beginning to prepare for the shit-storm that will probably result from the following statement:

I like Fall Out Boy.

I like Fall Out Boy a lot.

Now, I’m really not much for today’s top-40 music. I prefer a little more thought to go into my rock ‘n’ roll, or at least a healthy amount of talent to prop up shallow songwriting. There was a time, dear friends, when a person with such tastes didn’t have to enjoy Fall Out Boy in secret. When they first broke into the mainstream in 2005 with From Under the Cork Tree, they were a less well-known but clever and catchy rock band with a bassist who wore makeup and liked to take pictures of his pecker; his obnoxiousness was offset by the pudgy lead singer who never put his hood down. The pudgy singer wrote the music—pop hooks that stuck in your head like the image of your cousin naked: you probably recognized that you might regret seeing it later on, but in the moment, it looked damn good. The girly emo-bassist penned clever lyrics that were smart enough to elicit a smirk. It was good pop-rock music. My erstwhile acoustic band even played “Sugar, We’re Goin’ Down” regularly. People dug it. Somehow, though, after the six millionth radio airing of that song and “Dance, Dance,” rock fans seemed to sour on them. It was as if the general rock fandom chose to give way to the teen girls who liked FOB simply because they were on the radio (and, of course, because of Pete Wentz’s eyeliner/penis).

I don’t care. I love this band. Their follow up to Cork Tree, 2007’s Infinity on High, was an apt rebuttal to their mainstream success; it garnered head-splitting levels of radio play while insulting its supposed target audience. Their latest effort, Folie à Deux, is another solid one; a start-to-finish pleasure full of offbeat pop hooks, anthemic choruses and cynical wit. The band continues to hone the sound they’ve evolved through their major-label career while maintaining comforting familiarity—you know what you’re in for when you push ‘play.’ There will be a single (“America’s Suitehearts”), written in the key of D and it will sound just like “Sugar We’re Goin’ Down.” It will be irresistible. There will be at least one other similarly irresistible song (“Disloyal Order of Water Buffaloes”), also in D (Patrick Stump really, really likes to write music in D) that will not be a radio single. There will be a Depeche Mode-influenced single with a funkier, thumping beat (“I Don’t Care”) and a crowd of people yelling the chorus. It will sound like a louder, thicker “Personal Jesus.” There will be a more piano-based single (“What A Catch, Donnie”), conducive to lighter-holding. There will be a bevy of guest appearances, some impressive (Elvis Costello, Debbie Harry) and some not (Li’l Wayne). There will be a collaboration with Brendan Urie of Panic at the Disco (“20 Dollar Nosebleed”), who himself has refined his pop sensibilities to near-orgasmic levels; it will be one of the album’s strongest tracks, despite that it would be more in-place on a Panic album. There will be a long-titled song about infidelity (“Headfirst Slide Into Cooperstown On A Bad Bet”). To this song, you will bob your head.

There will also, at some point, be a Wentz-spoken soliloquy at the end of a song (“20 Dollar Nosebleed”). You’ll probably skip through it.

The short-and-skinny is that if you’ve liked the last two FOB releases, you’ll like this one too. If you didn’t, well, I’m not sure what to tell you. I won’t say that this is a guilty pleasure; it isn’t. What Fall Out Boy is, really, is well-written and reasonably intelligent pop-rock masquerading as teen radio fodder. Whether the stupid children are in on the joke is irrelevant; they’re not really the target demographic. If you can put aside your top 40 prejudices for an hour, do give this album a listen. Just don’t picture the tiny bassist with the swoopy hair and eyeliner, and you might find yourself opening up to this little gem.

Sean Kufel is an engineer who, sadly, does not drive trains. He can very rarely be found sitting still and is pleased with his recent foray into beard-wearing. He lives with his wife on the west side of Cleveland.


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Comments

I don't know what a "Pete Wentz" is, but it sounds painful.

Posted by: courtney 2 at January 14, 2009 1:03 PM

The "Say Something Nice Challenge" begins!!

Ahem:

I love the artist that did the cover art for this album.

Posted by: boo at January 14, 2009 1:15 PM

Whenever I hear the name "Fallout Boy" I just think of the Vault Boy character from Fallout (you know the kitschy cartoon character in all of the documentation and character screens?). And then I remember it's just a band, and then I'm depressed, because Fallout is way cooler than some band.

He lives with his wife on the west side of Cleveland.

Is that the part with the hellmouth?

Posted by: stipe42 at January 14, 2009 1:16 PM

Is that the part with the hellmouth?

That was moved to Detroit in '05. There's talk of moving it back in the spring.

Posted by: Sean at January 14, 2009 1:25 PM

Wentz may be obnoxious as Miley Cyrus doing...anything but I have seen the pics of his Weenie Wentz. And I was rather impressed (read: surprised). But what do I know, I have three cats and enjoy scrapbooking on Friday nights.

Maybe if he just pulled a Murderface and played the bass with Weenie Wentz, people would like him more.

Posted by: Dingles at January 14, 2009 1:26 PM

Really? Fallout Boy?

Posted by: Mattfactor at January 14, 2009 1:26 PM

Back off "stipe42"! That happens to be my beloved hometown. The Hellmouth is about 2 1/2 hours East and is known as Pittsburgh. We are just the upper lip of the Hellmouth.

Kudos Sean for taking a chance in admitting you like the FOB. I have worked in Rock radio for a while, and admitting you like the FOBs, Panics and Paramores of the world can lead to some stone throwing. Having to play those bands ad naseum leads to my general distaste, but they generally are the more popular groups.

I also have to say, I'm just glad to see a pick that isn't some obscure sad-bastard Swedish unwashed hippie acoustic guitar rambler. Look, just because it's obscure, doesn't mean it's good. Granted, the vast mahority of "popular" music is tripe, there are plenty of deserving bands who are actually on a label.

I wouldn't say the reviews have been pretntious (mainly because I am pretentious myself) but you are drifting into "Pitchfork" area from time to time.

Posted by: Max at January 14, 2009 1:28 PM

It's easy to be a hater, but their music simply doesn't do anything for me. Sorry.

And their track on Rock Band is annoying and painful to play.

Posted by: DarthCorleone at January 14, 2009 1:28 PM

So it's come to this...an officer of Pajiba officially condoning Fall Out Boy. Well, I guess we were overdue for an apocalypse anyway...

If anyone wants me, I'll be waiting patiently for the next Sinatra album. (Yes, I fucking know he's dead, that's no longer an obstacle in our modern world!)

Posted by: Mike R. at January 14, 2009 1:29 PM

I don't mind Fall Out Boy, but I will never recover from listening to "Grand Theft Autumn/Where is Your Boy" 23487 times every night that I closed the ice cream shop I worked at 4 summers ago. My shift manager LOVED that song, and while it's such a good pop song, pure repetition turned me off that song and the band for life.

Posted by: kelsy at January 14, 2009 1:30 PM

I like 'em too.

Too bad Wentz is such a huge douchbag. If the cat wasn't such a goddam media whore, maybe the band'd get a little more credibility. Alas, the famewhore has sunk his fangs - shit, every video I've seen of theirs centers on Wentz. You'd think the rest of the band would beat him with socks fulla marbles.

Posted by: Skitz at January 14, 2009 1:30 PM

*stamps feet*

Dammit people! You aren't playing the game!!!

Look, it's easy...

AHEM:

At least the good people of MAC have supreme job security.

See? Easy.

Posted by: boo at January 14, 2009 1:32 PM

I read an interview with the singer who was like "you think he put the penis photos online himself? Someone hacked his cell phone, and he was so embarrassed he quit the band and wanted to kill himself, but we talked him down." So I think it's enough with the penis jokes.

And this album is awesome. And I like Lil Wayne's cameo, because it's mixed in there so subtly that you might not even notice it at first until it pops out like a magic eye thing.

Posted by: Max at January 14, 2009 1:33 PM

Do you know what really pisses me off about Pete Wentz? He's better at doing his eye makeup than I am. I know he has a vagina and all, but that's still effed up.

Posted by: Nicole at January 14, 2009 1:35 PM

Goddammit! Now I'm going to sound like a lemming, but I SWEAR this is true! Monday I was driving home from work, flipping around on the radio and I landed on "I Don't Care". I was totally rocking out. I thought it was a fun, catchy song. And then the DJ said, "that was the new Fall Out Boy" and I died inside. Then I decided, fuck it, I'm almost 40. I have shitty taste in music and I'm ok with that. And I went home and downloaded the song. Legally. Like I *paid* for it.

The end.

Posted by: Lainey at January 14, 2009 1:37 PM

Awesome, I am no longer the only regular Pajiba reader (just call me Lurky McLurkerlady) to say "fuck yeah I like Fall Out Boy!"

I'll be the first to admit that P. Weezy has a bit of a tendency to be annoying as ass, but FOB's yet to put out an album that's disappointed me. Obsessions with twisty mostly-clever wordplay and stupid song titles aside, I really love this album.

I think there's a lot of pretension (oops, I'm crusading against pretension, that's on the Shitlist of 09) -- and actually now that I've said that, prentension's the wrong word. There's a lot of snobbiness about music, the peculiarities of which sort of confuse me. Is it assumed that if you like one band that's too cool to be "cool" that your music taste in general sucks Ben Wa balls? That seems to be the case.

The hype that goes with music, especially bands like FOB, tends to skew expectations and make it difficult to evaluate the final product at face-value. There are a million internet teenieboppers (and, after attending the video shoot for "I Don't Care", I can easily say a million meatspace over-eighteeniboppers) who are lining up to shriek that Pete Wentz, like, wrote their life and that Fall Out Boy is the defining rock band of this era okay!?!??!?!?!?!?!?.

I think more than setting aside the knee-jerk reaction to punch Wentz in his smug face, it's important to set aside the fear that liking Fall Out Boy will somehow turn you into an obnoxious 12-year-old with a girl-boner for self-inflicted/self-important misery.

That said, this album is delicious. Huzzah!

Posted by: telis at January 14, 2009 1:37 PM

Not to sound like a cranky old narrow-minded bastard, but I'll never understand the FOB love from anyone over the age of 13. Or anyone with a pair of genitals.

It's not just that Pete Wentz annoys me as much as Perez Hilton does, but does anyone notice the fact that they just cut and paste other people's stuff and throw it all at the wall to see what sticks? Anybody remember "Drain You" by Nirvana? It's the one with the line that says "I don't care what you think unless it is about me."

I don't know. They wouldn't bother me nearly as much if they were Disney posterboys or something but I guess I just can't bring myself to think of them as "rockers."

Posted by: Mattfactor at January 14, 2009 1:55 PM

Do you know what really pisses me off about Pete Wentz? He's better at doing his eye makeup than I am.

Word, Nicole. I can't get eyeliner to look like that on me.

Posted by: lizzieborden at January 14, 2009 1:56 PM

Aaaaand, I'm an idiot, obviously, as everyone has genitals. That should have read "testicles."

Posted by: Mattfactor at January 14, 2009 1:57 PM

Mattfactor, you were correct the first time. Only Eunichs or Alien Slaves can listen to Fall Out Boy and enjoy.

Posted by: Mike R. at January 14, 2009 2:03 PM

Only Eunichs or Alien Slaves can listen to Fall Out Boy and enjoy.

I do have a pretty high vocal range.

Posted by: Sean at January 14, 2009 2:07 PM

THANK YOU JESUS, someone who likes Fall Out Boy! I don't care how much of a douche Pete Wentz may be, that band is awesome. Patrick Stump is an amazing songwriter (& singer), and despite being oh so annoying, Wentz is a good lyricist. Musically, their friggen good. I'm tired of people hating them because of the stupid shit that tends to come out of Pete's mouth. Look at them as a band, not as Pete Wentz. Once again, THANK YOU! *goes back to being a lurker*

Posted by: Celie at January 14, 2009 2:10 PM

I have never heard a single Fall Out Boy song, but I absolutely hate them for two reasons:

1) Pete Wentz and his stupid pseudo-goth ways and his famewhorish arranged marriage to Joe Simpson's second-best lend-out-and-return-when-used daughter.

2) Their shameless appropriation of a Simpsons character. Give him back, bitches. You don't deserve to be associated with the Simpsons.

It's unfair, I know. But I promise that if they ever get rid of Douchy McEmoface, I will give them a chance.

Posted by: figgy at January 14, 2009 2:12 PM

So flabbergasted that Elvis Costello was actually on one of their tracks, I downloaded it. His contribution is minimal, but it really is a fairly decent pop song.

Posted by: Dustin Rowles at January 14, 2009 2:13 PM

I'm not going to lie that FOB can write some good hooks, but my general distaste comes from their lack of ability as a band. Patrick is really the only good one and Trohman and Wentz are a complete detriment when they play live. Honestly, the fact that Trohman actually gets paid to suck at guitar while looking like an idiot makes me sick to my stomach. I guess it is just bitterness because there are so many bands that are just as catchy that can actually play their instruments that aren't getting a shot.

I loved them when they released Take This To Your Grave, but I don't think I'm the only Chicagoan that felt a little betrayed after they hit it big. I'm not saying that they sold out it just seems like they couldn't wait to get the fuck out.

Posted by: Nick at January 14, 2009 2:17 PM

A couple members of Fall Out Boy went to my high school, although they're all a few years older than me. I remember seeing an early FOB show when I was in 8th grade at a local venue. I wasn't feeling it then, and I'm not feeling it now.

Posted by: Eleanor at January 14, 2009 2:20 PM

A couple members of Fall Out Boy went to my high school, although they're all a few years older than me. I remember seeing an early FOB show when I was in 8th grade at a local venue. I wasn't feeling it then, and I'm not feeling it now.

Posted by: Eleanor at January 14, 2009 2:21 PM

I have defended them for awhile. And this may be the best defense of a simple pop-punk band that I have ever heard. They're just a catchy band that got swallowed by it's own hype.
A girl insulted me for liking them and She Likes Nickleback! How can she say anything about taste in music?
Sean, Keep it up buddy. That said, I'm about to look into some tabs for Sugar We're Going Down.

Posted by: Optimus Rhyme at January 14, 2009 2:26 PM

Almost the entire song is D-G-Bm-G. Real easy. The chorus lead-in goes F#-G-A-Bm-C-Bm-G. Let me know if you want more detail.

Posted by: Sean at January 14, 2009 2:39 PM

heh... I understand the reasons why a person wouldn't like FOB. I really do.

However, that doesn't sway me from my enjoyment of their music! I just they're fun to rock out to... and I'm a 27-year-old black guy from Baltimore.

Posted by: Gnaius at January 14, 2009 2:44 PM

Thanks, and I saw you put Ludo on your top 5. I really dig them but I didn't think they were too well known. Have you checked out their
Rock Opera, Broken Bride? Time-Travel, Angst, Rock.

Posted by: Optimus Rhyme at January 14, 2009 2:54 PM

Yes I have, sir. Love it. "Save Our City" just rocks me every time.

Posted by: Sean at January 14, 2009 2:59 PM

I don't really understand hating a band because one of its members may or may not be a supreme douche. The guy has a way with words, Patrick's voice is off the chain, the music is catchy as hell. And their music isn't bad at all. As popular on the radio as they may be, their last two albums have been critical darlings. They've just marketed themselves poorly. Anyway, for those who "hate" them because their singles are overplayed, or because you can't get past Wentz's eyeliner, or whatever...really you're just missing out.

Posted by: Jenny at January 14, 2009 3:01 PM

I can honestly say that I hate them for reasons beyond PW's complete and utter doucheness. Every song I've ever heard has pissed me off for one reason or another and after having seen them live on SNL or something I'm in total agreement with Nick that they fucking suck. PW looks like he's only been playing bass for five minutes.

Posted by: Mattfactor at January 14, 2009 3:05 PM

"Catchy" does not equal "good." That stupid fucking Five Dollar Footlong song is catchier than hell and I doubt if the guy that wrote it will be getting his picture plastered on junior high girls' lockers or giving his demonspawn a retarded-ass name anytime soon.

Posted by: Mattfactor at January 14, 2009 3:08 PM

I like Fallout Boy, too.

Sometimes you just want to listen to something that's fun and a little silly, and that you don't have to pay much attention to. FoB is one of those bands for me.

I had a roommate that hated these guys. So to mess with her sometimes, I would play some in my room, which happened to be right by the bathroom, when she was in there.

Posted by: Nadha at January 14, 2009 3:13 PM

I can't believe all the love for FOB, but I'll admit that I think they're pretty catchy, and I too downloaded "I Don't Care" -- paid for it with good old fashioned credit and everything. I hate Wentz (he's practically a celebutard), but the lead singer has a great voice and doesn't get the credit he deserves.

Posted by: jimbob at January 14, 2009 3:14 PM

I don't mean to be throwing the hate around, but this is my rebuttal about Mr. Wentz lyrics.

Sure, the guy is clever, but that is where it stops. There is no real heart there. His songs are just a smattering of angsty cliches that don't carry a common theme longer than a few lines.

And come on, the dude is married to Ashlee Simpson and has fathered her child. Him still writing about that popular girl in high school that wouldn't talk to him is like Metallica "lashing out" at the society that won't accept them.

Posted by: Nick at January 14, 2009 3:20 PM

Mattfactor = HILARIOUS. LOVE the comment about the FIve Dollar Footlong guy. In fact, just typing that makes me giggle.

Anyway, on to FOB. I don't even listen to the damn radio anymore so I couldn't name a song of theirs vs. a song of Beyonce's. What I hate about these twats, or PW actually, is that GODDAMN FACE he's making in that picture. I live down the freeway from the Honda Center in Anaheim, so when these cockfags were in town I had to sit in traffic and look at that fuck and his STUPID FUCKING DOUCHEBAG FACE. I wanted to plunge my thumbs into his eye sockets until his eyes popped like grapes. Sorry for the rage, this just really gets to me.

XOXO Pajiba

Posted by: fullertonregan at January 14, 2009 3:50 PM

I'm sorry, but I have to say that Fall Out Boy is not my flavor. They're music for tweensters and the band itself relies on people smirking at their outrageously long song titles when all they add to the table are some semi attractive emo boys who know how to create a radio hit.
And the stealing from the play Closer? Not a good move there.

Posted by: Kamikaze Feminist at January 14, 2009 4:01 PM

So this isn't deep or anything, I just really like Fall Out Boy's music. From under the Cork Tree and Infinity on High got me through two years as a social worker, so I tend to get defensive about Pete Wentz. I know he's a douche, and if he was anyone else I'd laugh and laugh and LAUGH at "Bronx Mowgli Wentz." But hey. I like the Dandy Warhols and Kenna and the Arctic Monkeys! Isn't that enough to keep my indie cred?

Posted by: zoë at January 14, 2009 4:06 PM

I think it's pretty obvious at this point that the Music column is going to always be a divisive element on Pajiba. Hell, that's fine. Variety is the spice of life and all that and some of the bands are interesting.

I haven't even heard of 95% of the music mentioned on here so I was just happy to see a band I recognized. And for the record I like FoB. I'd never pay to see them live but they consistently put out solid albums, each with at least 3 tracks that are made to blow your speakers out.

But they need to get rid of the dumb ass nonsensical titles and try to rein in the free form rhyme. The songs make no sense lyrically but there is sure a lot of sound and fury and sometimes (especially in their case) it's enough.

Posted by: TylerDFC at January 14, 2009 4:14 PM

See? Easy.
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Posted by: boo at January 14, 2009 1:32 PM

At least Pete Wentz hasn't smashed his child against a wall and feasted on the baby's entrails to solidfy the pact with Satan that allows him to have a career.

See boo, I can do it too.

Posted by: admin at January 14, 2009 4:54 PM

THANK YOU admin. I was dying over here.

Posted by: boo at January 14, 2009 5:03 PM

So wait, Wentz isn't the lead singer? he's the only one I ever see anything about, so I figured he was. But I also always confuse him/the band with the Panic at the Discotards, so what do I know?

Also, the fact that every CD sounds exactly like the last one is not a Good Thing. It's why I hate Nickelback, when I admittedly used to like them. I realized I couldn't tell one song from another.

Plus, these guys/Panic just look like raging asshats and it makes me want to go on a semi-murderous rampage just looking at their pictures.

Don't even get me started on the ridiculous titles.

Posted by: Gabs at January 14, 2009 6:05 PM

Wow! One I've actually heard of! Their music licks dead donkey balls, but I've heard of 'em.

Posted by: The Kilted Yaksman at January 14, 2009 7:05 PM

I kinda sorta want to marry you right now because you have summed up Fall Out Boy and this album perfectly.

Posted by: Definitely Maebe at January 14, 2009 7:32 PM

If it makes Team TK feel better, you guys got me into The Mae Shi and I'm seeing them at an underground venue in my unwashed hippie town early next month. I can't wait!

Posted by: TryScience at January 14, 2009 7:50 PM

it took a lot of courage to admit to liking such a no talent assclown band.

kudos to your courage and two thumbs way down for yer taste.

Posted by: dylanj at January 14, 2009 8:50 PM

Fall Out Boy makes the kind of music that bores into your skull and refuses to leave until you've heard it 1,000 times over a summer.

Ask me how I know this.

One night and one more toy...Thanks for the memories

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!

Posted by: Fredo at January 14, 2009 9:51 PM

I appreciate and accept your opinion.

But you suck the Falloutboys long, and you suck the Falloutboys hard, even worse then a tempted preacher with a new flock of choir boys. Futhermore I don't even they'd like the kind of attention you lather their meat sausages with.

Your review... it's like some sort fetish porn.

Disgusting.

So please, show some profesionalism, don't make the rest of us read your grainy, self-indulgent, fetid, smoldering, raw, violent and putrid snuff-film of a "review" thinking we'll get bitchyness instead of prostitution without the buisness end of the sex trade, Sean.

Posted by: Xoldersister at January 15, 2009 12:27 AM

I respect your opinion.

That being said, you suck the Fallout boys and you suck the Falloutboys hard, worse than a Preacher with a fresh flock of choirboys, to the point where I don't even think Pete Wentz would approuve, were he not sucking himself off.

This mindless self-indulgence, from a site claiming to be all about the bitchy, is ugly and putrescent. Your review is a ditch delivered, birthstrangled abberation and you blaitant Falloutboy lust is worse than grainy fetish porn.

Don't make us read what we think is bitchy, then give us a snuff-film of an article, you disgusting perverted sexual deviant, Sean.

Good day!

Posted by: Xoldersister at January 15, 2009 12:34 AM

In your efforts to sound both crude and intelligent, you succeeded in one. So I won't waste too much time except to say that:

1) You're clearly too stupid to understand the fairly uncomplicated definitions of either "appreciate" or "respect." Don't say it if you're not going to do it.

2) You only need to hit the pretty post button once. I realize that you got overeager and shot off too soon, a feeling you're likely familiar with, but just a heads up for next time. Either that, or you're spending too much time getting your adolescent rantings "just right," despite sounding like a childish asshole with a thesaurus.

and

3) You spelled "bitchiness," "blatant," "approve" and "aberration" wrong, moron. Oh, and you also spelled "your" wrong. If you're going to look up all those big words, pay attention to how the letters are ordered, OK?

Was that bitchy enough for you, cupcake?

Posted by: I Love Beets at January 15, 2009 1:28 AM

@ Xoldersister

Also, you're ugly.

Posted by: JakesAlterEgo at January 15, 2009 1:39 AM

Up and ATOM!

Posted by: bakers_dozen at January 15, 2009 4:44 AM