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Why You Should Avoid Comic-Con This Year If You Actually Like Comics

By Dustin Rowles | Posted Under Miscellaneous | Comments (38)



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The 2011 Comic-Con is set to happen next month, that wonderful time of year where geeks can fly their GEEK flags proudly and hang out with like-minded bearded folks, meet their favorite bearded comic-book related people, and see all the new bearded-comic-book related stuff. Or whatever it is that you geeky folk used to do at Comic-Con besides talk about getting laid and spending most of the time hiding out in your hotel rooms.

Whatever that was, it’s not what goes on anymore. Geek Mecca has been co-opted by corporate America and, apparently, Seth MacFarlane. Of course, attendees still wear their Browncoats and their Princess Leia costumes, but now they have to share floor space with a few thousand teenage girls hoping to get a glance of Robert Pattinson’s chest hair. Having never been there, I can’t speak definitively to the transformation, but from what I can gather, the place is something of a farce these days. Do you want to see panels on next year’s comic-related The Dark Knight Rises, Superman: The Man of Steel or The Avengers? Or even next month’s Captain America?

Sorry, but as consolation, there will be an awesome panel on “Glee”! Congratulations, geeks. Corporate interests just sold your ass down the river.

I’m not sure we’re sending anyone this year. I made no attempt to procure credentials, and while Prisco has renewed his, Steven Lloyd Wilson is in Russia and won’t be attending (Prisco is iffy, as I understand it). We’re not the only outlet balking, and why should we bother with the expense and hassle for what is essentially a gigantic wall-to-wall junket? Especially since the trailers debut nearly simultaneously on the Internet, the panels go online soon after their completed, and even the promotional materials — clips and posters — will flood the Internet at the same time as they’re released to the Comic-Con attendees. You have no idea the amount of unsolicited press releases I have to delete that week. Indeed, it’s now easier to cover Comic Con from home than from the Convention floor. Because it’s not about creating an experience for the attendees anymore; it’s about promotion (it always was, I’m sure, but now it’s more crass). Comic-con is just a convenient date now to launch that promotion, which is why you’ll see a great number of this fall’s new network shows at the convention, just two months before their debuts. Does the USA Network’s “Covert Affairs” have anything to do with comic books? Well, now. But Piper Perabo is hot, and geeks like hot women, right? SYNERGY!

Quite a few of the studios have balked at promoting their films their this year, as The NYTimes reported last week. It’s expensive and, as Scott Pilgrim vs. The World demonstrated, it’s hardly worth the financial risk. Plus, the real comic-book related events are likely to be tainted by their associations to “Glee” and Twilight. It’s like putting a a five-star restaurant in a strip mall; the food may be delicious, but there’s a nail salon and a pawn shop on either side. In any event, that teenager demographic will make up a large percentage of the attendees, and are they really going to be that interested in Mark Millar or the Green Lantern: Animated Series, anyway? Probably not.

Anyway, to demonstrate what a sham the convention has become, I took the liberty of placing the events that have been announced so far into four categories so you could see, laid out before you in print, how little percentage-wise the convention is now dedicated to comic books and their fans.

I’m just as surprised as you are. Comic-Con! F*ck Yeah!


Not Comic-Related

  • Twilight: Breaking Dawn
  • “Glee” panel
  • “Allen Gregory” panel (Fox show)
  • “Alcatraz” Pilot, a prison drama
  • “Person of Interest” Pilot, a procedural
  • “The Secret Circle” Pilot, a romantic drama
  • “Napoleon Dynamite” TV Series panel
  • “Covert Affairs”
  • “Awake,” sci-fi procedural panel
  • Showtime Panel (“Shameless,” “Dexter”)
  • “Bones” panel
  • “Bob’s Burgers” Panel
  • “Cleveland Show” panel
  • “True Blood” Panel
  • “Falling Skies” Panel
  • “Children’s Hospital” Panel
  • Fox Panel: “The Simpsons,” “Family Guy,” “Terra Nova,” “American Dad,” “Futurama”
  • “Vampire Diaries”
  • “Nikita”
  • “Scooby-Doo! Mystery Incorporated” Screening and Q&A
  • “The Looney Tunes Show” Screening and Q&A
  • Not Comic-Related but Tenuously Of Interest to Comic People

  • “Game of Thrones”
  • “Torchwood” panel
  • John Carter panel
  • “Chuck”
  • “Fringe”
  • Supernatural: The Anime Series
  • “Big Bang Theory” Panel
  • “ThunderCats” Premiere Episode Screening and Q&A
  • Comic Related

  • The Amazing Spider-man
  • Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance
  • “Cowboys and Aliens” Panel
  • The UK Invasion Panel
  • Warren Ellis panel
  • Arcana Comics Panel
  • MAD Screening
  • Green Lantern: The Animated Series Video Presentation and Q&A
  • “Young Justice” Screening and Q&A
  • “Locke & Key” Pilot Screening
  • Comic Related but Not Coming This Year

  • The Dark Knight Rises
  • Avengers
  • Superman: Man of Steel
  • Captain America

  • (Source: Bleeding Cool, Screenrant)









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    Comments

    It's not mine to say "maaaan, what happened to you?", I don't really wanna go to things like that for the same reason I don't want to go to outdoor rock festivals. It's physically uncomfortable no matter what's going on, so I'm not really the audience. But yeah...this sounds like a drag.

    Posted by: Jay at June 24, 2011 11:41 AM

    I grew up in San Diego and would not miss Comic-Con for the world for the past 9 years but I think this is my last year attending. I'm excited to see my friends that I don't get to see most other times of the year and I know once I'm there I'll get excited, but I'm seriously dreading it because I know it's been ruined.

    It's easy to say "Twilight ruined Comic-Con", but I think the first year Twilight was there was the year that everyone really started to sit up and take notice and turn it into something that it wasn't meant for.

    And fuck Glee and fuck the fact that there is a Glee panel. I fucking hate Glee for ruining everything that I enjoyed about it the beginning of the first season and everything that I enjoyed about Darren Criss. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck. You.

    Posted by: michaelceratops at June 24, 2011 11:55 AM

    To be fair, the animation stuff gets a pass, because it's sort of in the same idiom, especially when Matt Groening is involved. The Simpsons and Futurama do have moderately successful comics, after all.

    But the bulk being non-comic related or tenuous, at best, ought to be considered a slap to the face. Of course, that's been going on for years now. Dragon*Con and the Wizard World shows are where the fanboys get their geek on now.

    Posted by: RobP at June 24, 2011 11:57 AM

    This is only the 2nd SDCC I'll have missed in 10 years...and I can't say I'm all that displeased. Sad.

    Last year I did not get to see one single comic panel due to all the campers waiting in halls for some assbutt thing that was probably ass anyway.

    Posted by: =DocDoom1= at June 24, 2011 12:26 PM

    Comic Con is one of those I've always wanted to attend once, just to say I did.

    But the con I always go to every year, without fail, is Dragon*Con (dragoncon.org). D*C (for good or ill) is still a fan-run convention, and its content is not determined solely by movie and TV studios. Also, it takes place at the actual host hotels, which means you can bring an adult beverage into pretty much any panel you want (I cannot overstate the impact of this).

    Posted by: gbeenie at June 24, 2011 12:34 PM

    gbeenie, you are a lucky soul. I've always wanted to head out to that one.

    But do the panels get out of control with all the beveraid? Me and my buddies showed up drunk once to a Marvel panel at SDCC, and I swear there was about a 10 empty-seat radius around us. Weird, I know.

    And god, the questions. How are the questions?

    Posted by: =DocDoom1= at June 24, 2011 12:42 PM

    I stopped going about 3 years ago. My first year (prior to when Hollywood took notice) was perfect. You could wander in and out of just about any room, no line for Hall H, the security was more lax, the volunteers and the attendees were more friendly. The actual comic writers/artists made more sales and garnered more attention.

    The last year I decided to go, you had to wait 3 hours for a whedon panel, only to discover at the very end that there were more no seats and be turned away. People camped outside of Hall H 2 nights before (I watched neurotic Twilight fans jump on Pattinson's car and pound on the windows as he was trying to leave the convention. I hate Twilight, but I can't help but feel sorry for the guy.).

    (I heard last year someone got stabbed in Hall H? Yeah, not surprised)

    I've been trying to go to Wondercon up in SF, but it's slowly becoming like ComicCon too... *sigh* too bad.

    Posted by: Vi at June 24, 2011 12:42 PM

    God, this is so upsetting. I've never had the chance to go, and now there's fucking Twilight and Glee panels? STFU.

    I'm not much into comics, but there are a select few that I do like. I also always loved the panels with people like James Marsters, and the stuff for Torchwood and some HBO shows...

    now it's just pretty lame. Can't they at least stick to SciFi stuff? (There's probably a Con just for that though, isn't there? I'm so not geek worthy.)

    Posted by: Candee at June 24, 2011 12:49 PM

    Much as I hate to say it, I don't think Twilight is that inappropriate. It's got monsters and killing and whatnot. The same goes for True Blood (and I truly loathe that show, so I think I'm being pretty objective here). But police procedurals? FUCKING GLEE?!

    Posted by: Todd at June 24, 2011 12:56 PM

    Shouldn't TK have written this?

    *Runs*

    Posted by: Paultera at June 24, 2011 1:05 PM

    I went to a Star Trek convention once. People kept asking the guy that played Worf why he kept getting beat up every episode.

    Posted by: logan at June 24, 2011 1:12 PM

    This is only the 2nd SDCC I'll have missed in 10 years...and I can't say I'm all that displeased. Sad.

    Last year I did not get to see one single comic panel due to all the campers waiting in halls for some assbutt thing that was probably ass anyway.

    Posted by: =DocDoom1= at June 24, 2011 12:26 PM

    I'm in exactly the same boat, I've been 8 times in the last ten years. I'm disappointed that I won't see some folks who have become very good friends. But honestly, I'm more disappointed in what Con has become. In my opinion it has been coopted by the folks who used to pick on us for our interests as their latest and greatest place to be seen. I knew this for fact when a guy I know who used to pick on me for going was bragging that he has "VIP passes" (whatever that means) this year.

    Posted by: lubeg at June 24, 2011 1:51 PM

    But police procedurals? FUCKING GLEE?!

    maybe they're promoting a future episode dedicated to comics like the occasional musical episodes we get?

    i dunno, i'm just trying to make sense of it all.

    Posted by: haplo at June 24, 2011 1:58 PM

    Welp, that's it. Comic-Con is dead, and it happened the second someone said "Glee Planel". Jumping the shark doesn't quite cover it.

    Posted by: Figgy at June 24, 2011 2:02 PM

    A Napolean Dynamite TV series? Well, there's another reason to welcome our insect overlords.

    Posted by: Mrcreosote at June 24, 2011 2:05 PM

    I live in San Diego (lucky me, seriously) and have been going for the last decade or so. I can't remember my first one, but it was really early.

    There's no doubt that it has changed a lot in the last five years in particular. I think it was the original Iron Man that fully threw the switch to "this is money!" for Hollywood - it was drifting that way ahead of time, but Iron Man in 2007 benefited hugely from its presence, and of course went on to make a ton of money. Then again it was a good movie in general.

    CC doesn't deserve this much of a bitch rant though. Yes, it's much more commercial now. Yes, this year looks thin. Nevertheless, it will still have rows and rows of independent artists selling their small comics directly to fans. It will still have good panels. It will still be one of the wildest concentrations of geek fandom around. It has all the best independent book shops and comic shops present. There will be many many authors and artists just hanging out.

    A random smattering of things I've done/seen at comic con that would still happen today, many of which occurred after it supposedly "went commercial":
    - Sat a reading of Locke and Key by Joe Hill, Stephen Kings son and a deeply thoughtful and interesting author. He went out of his way to dedicate time to the people there, and it was one of the best author readings I think I've ever attended.
    - Had probably a 30 minute conversation with Joe Turkel (Tyrell from Blade Runner, many other movies). He shared at length experiences with Scott and Kubrick as directors and was a genuinely nice guy through and through. Amazing candor.
    - Watched Richard Hatch hit on my fiancee, who we found wandering some back path behind the vendor stalls. Funny as hell.
    - Met and fawned over Nathan Fillion (I think in this case my fiancee was hitting on him...)
    - Talked with at length and got an autographed (no cost) still from Ray Harryhausen. I mean seriously, where else is that kind of shit going to happen?
    - After I finished my fandom "Im not worthy" moment with Harryhausen, watched him turn around and immediately get engaged by a similarly appreciative fan who went on and on about how wonderful his work was. That fan was Gene Simmons.

    I could really go on and on. Every comic con something like this happens to me, often several times. It's a unique event, and while some parts of it have gone the optimized profit route, not everything has. Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater there!

    -Frob

    Posted by: frobme at June 24, 2011 2:09 PM

    Aww, I'm going with my boyfriend for the 3rd year in a row next month, and I gotta say, as a comics fan primarily, that I've enjoyed it. There's been enough hidden panel gems in there among the chaff for me to think it's worth it, as well as quite a few comic artists that I admire like crazy doing guest talks or autograph sessions. Plus, there's any number of titles and publishers to discover in the main hall.

    Boyfriend is more into sci-fi in general, and he's enjoyed the panels and guests as well. Also, Nathan Fillion touched him (for a group fan photo, but there is no such thing as a bad touch from Fillion), so he's sold on going again for at least a couple more years.

    The first Twilight thing happened the first year we went, and it was a little frenetic getting our bearings in the mass of people. I got the impression that those panels were the ones being covered by the media the most, as well (one poor morning newscaster had the most plastered-on smile while talking about how did Jacob get those abs, and just enough tired-eyed hesitation before reading the final teleprompter line, about how it was diet and exercise). But other than some creative roundabout routes and some extra giveaways to toss, I didn't feel like it affected a whole lot of what either of us wanted to see that year (well, tbh, besides a non-crowded restaurant).

    Last year? I think there were maybe 2 main floor displays with costumes from Twilight, which were pretty much being ignored, from what I saw, in favor of The Green Hornet booth. No idea what'll happen this year, of course...

    Granted, I lean towards the indie and manga side of comics, enjoy some of the tv shows mentioned above enough that a panel on them wouldn't seem like a waste, and am relatively green as far as cons go. So I don't necessarily know what bigger names are a disappointment not to see and can't speak to what-all was better before. But honestly? I'm looking forward to the trip again this year.

    PS I remember hearing rumors of an indie indie comic event going on nearby, near and possibly overlapping the Comic-Con dates... Anyone else heard of this?

    Posted by: jgs at June 24, 2011 2:09 PM

    ...but now they have to share floor space with a few thousand teenage girls...

    Get. They get to share the floor with a few thousand teenage girls.

    Posted by: superasente at June 24, 2011 2:23 PM

    RobP and gbeenie,

    Just started reading this thread, but thank you both for the shoutout to Dragon*Con. This with be my 5th D*C this year, 4th with my extended family from the New Orleans area. There are so many of us this year that instead of the suite and pair of rooms we got last year, this year we've rented a house!

    I say all of us Pajiba faithful group up and we ALL send reviews for Pajiba this year. What d'ya think, Dustin? I know RobP is one of my FaceSpace friends, so we've already got that connection.

    (And yeah since I had to bow out of the Southern Fried Bacon this year it'd be nice to meet some of you crazy pervs. You'll know me by my shortness and power ring.)

    Posted by: Green Lantern at June 24, 2011 2:48 PM

    It does seem a bit excessive for someone who claims to have never been there to complain so much about how "Hollywood" Comic Con has become.

    Yeah on occassion it can be a little ridiculous. But if you're actually going there for the comic books you can still have that experience. Every year I go I have a great time. I get to meet the artists I want to meet, up close and in person. I avoid Hall H like the plague, and stick to the smaller more obsure panels. You get some of the most random entertainment at those. Most importantly, if there is something big I do want to see, I plan accordingly. While waiting for an Archer panel last year, I inadvertantly ended up in a panel about the guy who painted all those Star Wars posters and so many other iconic movie images. It was seriously the best panel I had been to that year. Part of the fun of Comic Con is wandering around and finding these unique little moments to enjoy.

    If you stand around complaining the whole time about what a hassle everything has become, then guess what? You probably won't have a good time. Though I can say if they keep raising the price of the passes as well as the hotel rates in the area, then I may seriously reconsider going every year because that is getting out of hand. Otherwise, I'm all in.

    @jgs I believe this site has a list of things going on outside the 'Con and I think the indie thing is listed, I can't get it work right now: sdccblog.com/guide-to-sdcc-part-4-outside-the-convention/948/

    Posted by: CinnabarriGirl at June 24, 2011 2:53 PM

    Oh and for the record? Fuck "Glee" @ Comicon. I've been a fan of the show, and recent defender, but "Glee" does not belong @ Comicon. No. Mm-mm. Uh-uh. No way.

    Posted by: Green Lantern at June 24, 2011 3:11 PM

    If I could afford to go, GL, I'd cover the hell out Dragon*Con. It's not as price prohibitive as SDCC, but it ain't cheap.

    I went in 2009 and it was, without question, one of the best cons I've ever been to. The Wizard Chicago in 2003/4 was pretty good, too, but D*C is just big enough to be awesome, but still small enough (and still about the comics/genres/the fans enough) to be radass.

    Posted by: RobP at June 24, 2011 3:29 PM

    Comic Con has been "mainstream" so long, it makes this article beyond old. Like reading it actually qualifies as traveling back in time.

    Anyways Warren Ellis is reason enough to go, but the cheap foreign dvds and surpris foreign directors that show up every now again make me go every year. Park Chan Wook two years ago ftw!

    Posted by: googergieger at June 24, 2011 3:54 PM

    Comic Con has been "mainstream" so long, it makes this article beyond old. Like reading it actually qualifies as traveling back in time.

    Holy shit! Really?!

    Future Matthew -- DO NOT have sex with Ellen! It's not going to be that much fun and your trip to the doctor will haunt you for years.

    And listen, I know you think the trip to Mexico is a good idea -- I know you do -- but you are wrong! Without wanting to reveal to much, let me just say that sometimes skirts are filled with things you're not expecting.

    And please, for the love of God don't sell your Giant Sized X-Men comic book. Just make your rent payment late, okay. You'll never be able to find it that cheaply again, you fool.

    Let's see, what else?

    Oh yeah, how could I forget. Ask out Jennifer Clapp when you meet her. Don't wait eight years. She's awesome; you're really going to appreciate her eventually. The sex you think you're going to get from being single is never going to be as good as you imagine.

    Posted by: superasente at June 24, 2011 4:57 PM

    A future self can give advice to a past self but a past self giving advice to a future self? Now you've lost me.

    Posted by: googergieger at June 24, 2011 5:18 PM

    I'm pretty sure it wasn't me who got you lost, sir.

    Good day.

    I SAID GOOD DAY!

    Posted by: superasente at June 24, 2011 5:37 PM

    Well to be fair if it was you that got me lost, it makes sense you wouldn't be sure about it.

    Posted by: googergieger at June 24, 2011 5:59 PM

    @=DocDoom1=:

    People are generally well-behaved, at least in the daytime. And the most off-putting and awkward questions I've ever heard asked in panels have been by people who were STONE COLD SOBER.

    Also, rooms are cleared after every panel, so there's no camping, and most of the time it doesn't matter anyway: a large percentage of the main con programming is broadcast on the host hotels' CCTV (the Costume Contest Drinking Game is the social highlight of our Dragon*Con, and we don't even have to leave our room).

    Posted by: gbeenie at June 24, 2011 6:16 PM

    @CinnabarriGirl: I don't see the mystery con on the list, but thank you for the link -- I'm always up for reading about other weekend events and any tips on navigating ComicCon more successfully.

    Posted by: jgs at June 24, 2011 6:38 PM

    I dont know if this helps at all, Alcatraz is not a prison drama, is a sci-fi show, still not a comic book related but that's still better than nothing right?

    Posted by: rio at June 24, 2011 6:53 PM

    googergeiger is my new favorite Pajiban. Find us on Facebook, friend. Your wit is welcome.

    Posted by: superasente at June 24, 2011 7:20 PM

    Well I will, but only because my ego is so incredibly easy to please.

    Posted by: googergieger at June 24, 2011 7:38 PM

    @Superasante - Matt, you TOLD googergieger "Good Day", didn't you? Can't you stick to your guns, man?? For shame...

    Posted by: Green Lantern at June 24, 2011 10:50 PM

    I used to always want to go to this thing, but now I couldn't care less... and, with my girlfriend being in DC, I'm finally taking the pilgrimage to Baltimore Comic-con this year; I'll still get to see Jeff Smith, and maybe even Stan The Man Lee.

    Posted by: Cody at June 24, 2011 10:54 PM

    With regards to that Avengers poster: YIKES.

    Posted by: valerie at June 24, 2011 11:05 PM

    I know nothing about it, but would Game of Thrones be a good fit for Dragon Con? Seeing as there there be dragons, and all?

    Posted by: Maryscott O'Connor at June 25, 2011 1:12 PM

    Cody, I might also be in Baltimore.

    As you can probably tell, I'm a huge Jeff Smith fan.

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