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The Modern Day Ritual

By Seth Freilich | Posted Under Miscellaneous | Comments (58)



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When I was in college, I took an amazing course called Art, Gender and Ritual. The “ritual” aspect of the course was the part that, years later, I still find the most intriguing and resonant in my own life (recognizing, of course, that “ritual” is often inexorably tied to art and gender). Growing up, we all go through many rituals, celebrating good times and mourning bad times. Rituals that are sometimes religious, sometimes societal, sometimes both, and sometimes even something else altogether. As the primary part of our final exam in the course, the students were simply asked to do something that, to and for each of us, encompassed the course and what we took out of it. One student did a grand cultural ritual involving a trek across main campus to the bell tower (and almost included the live sacrifice of a chicken!) and several other students did various pieces and forms of artwork incorporating many of the themes and issues we had broken down over the course of someteen-odd weeks. I basically blended the course’s main themes to create one of those “something else” rituals — it wasn’t inherently religious or societal, but offered me a way to embrace, process and publicly deal with my mother’s death in a way I had never before done, despite having had almost a decade to do so.

It was a shared moment with the other dozen people in the class, as were their own ritualistic and artistic endeavors. And while I took many things away from that course, the sheer power of the ritual is the one thing that has most stuck with me over the years, particularly as it pertains to the public sharing of pain and suffering, which at its best is also a joined celebration of life and diversity. I’m not much of a spiritual man, and I’m not at all a religious man, but since that time, I’ve been able to understand why so many people make houses of worship such an integral part of their lives, because rituals are fucking powerful.

Anyway, I’ve been thinking about this a lot lately in the context of the “modern ritual.” Several things have happened in recent days which got me thinking that we might just be starting to see the beginnings of an entirely new form of ritual, as communal as the most religious of ceremonies, but without much of the pomp and circumstance or centuries-old subtext (not that either of these don’t have their places and purposes).

This first really dawned on me in the wake of Amanda/Alabama Pink’s far-too-soon departure. Here was a woman who few of us had ever met in person, whose death touched us as if we had lost one of our own. And in the following days, we saw what certainly felt like a new breed of online ritual. This website basically sat shiva (albeit for a day, rather than seven), a minuscule corner of Facebook held a modern-day public wake, and the amount of emotion being poured into the various comment threads on both sites was nothing short of astounding (with a fair amount of heartbreak thrown in for good measure).

And then, a small number of us watched, online, the memorial service that Amanda’s wonderful family and friends put on. The book I quoted from up top, Tom Driver’s The Magic of Ritual, is one of the things we read in that college course, and in his introduction, Driver presented several overarching, generalized tales, including this one:

A woman has died. Her sister attends the funeral out of duty, not expecting it will do much for her. Sure enough, the service is pro forma, something everybody does at a time like this, so hold your breath and go through it. The ceremony is not in the least transforming, and the sister knows she will have to deal with her grief some other way.

Those of us unfortunate enough to have sat through our share of funerals and memorials may understand this sentiment all too well. And while I think it’s safe to say that our online view of Amanda’s memorial was every bit as emotional, heart-wrenching and celebratory as attending a live memorial can be, it also had something more. Given that we were able to have our own running commentary thanks to an IM sidebar, it was actually considerably more communal than these types of things tend to be, at least for those of us participating in that manner (when a string of “so say we all” started pouring forth at one point, no matter how much you might diss SciFi nerds, that shit was intense). I can’t speak for anyone else, but the fact that we could laugh and make jokes, throw out comments that we know Amanda would want and appreciate, while still allowing this moment to fulfill its “traditional” purpose, may not have been entirely transforming, as the best of rituals are, but it sure has hell felt like something important.

At one point in his book, Driver talks about a fundamental thing that he’s really writing in response to:

At its most elemental level, this book is a response to what I shall call “ritual boredom.” That is, a condition in which people have become fundamentally weary of the rituals available to them for giving their lives shape and meaning…. The causes of this boredom seem to me twofold: Either the rituals, in their form, content, and manner of performance, have lost touch with the actualities of peoples lives and are thus simply arcane; or else the people have lost the ability to apprehend their very need of ritual, do not see what rituals are good for, and thus do not find them even potentially valuable.

In an age where the internet is allowing Community to develop in entirely new and diverse/broad ways, online communities have the potential to allow new rituals to grow and develop. Rituals that aren’t “simply arcane.” And by being able to allow people to develop their own rituals in ways that suit a given community’s interests and needs, in ways that hopefully connect with those people, rather than just serving to connect them, I think the power of ritual may be something that can be rediscovered.

One of the great things about Pajiba is how personal things get here. We’ve developed a true community in every sense of the word. At various times, each of the writers have shared their dark-and-dirties in a very open and public manner and, as a result, the commentors frequently do so as well. Even the vast majority of folks who never make a peep, never leave a single comment, are an integral part of this process, simply by the sheer fact that they read what we all share (taking it to the quantum physics level, you can even say it’s a type of “observer effect,” insofar as the fact that what folks chose to click on the site slowly shapes the nature of the site itself, since the click is king).

A few weeks back, we posted a heartfelt book review where the reviewer, in a short few paragraphs, opened up about some personal shit in a manner far more revealing than I’ve ever seen from some of my “real world” friends. Many commentors were understandably moved. And I, myself, was moved to send a private message to this person I’ve never actually “met” before, telling her of my own similar experiences and expressing some things that I’ve only ever told to one other person. Through this review, the author had performed her own public ritual, sharing her pain and guilt and accepting comment, empathy and discussion in return. As Driver discusses, one of the three societal impacts of ritual is its ability to transform (the other two being the provision of a sense of order and community). And while I won’t hypothesize as to whether this mere book review and the ensuing discussion lead to any transformation in the author, I am willing to speculate that she likely walked away from it with at least a glimmer of something in her that wasn’t there before (hope or acceptance, a lessening of her own guilt or suffering, or even just the realization that she’s not at all alone in the shit she’s dealing with).

Of course, I realize that Pajiba is by no means the only internet community, and while we like to think we’re above everyone else, in this sense at least, we’re no different than a lot of other “homes” on the net. So I don’t say this as a Pajiba-only thing, but about all of these little intimate groups and communities that have sprung up on the internet, made up of folks who have never physically looked each other in the eyes, but who have nevertheless truly seen each other. In fact, this whole thing came to the forefront again for me last week when the Voice of the People, Harry Kalas, died.

Fans of the Philadelphia Phillies — or NFL Films, or baseball history, or radio broadcasting in general — were all saddened by the loss of the Hall of Fame broadcaster, who died after after falling unconscious in the press booth (before a game, thankfully, rather than during the broadcast). And from the moment word leaked that he had fallen in the booth, before he had even been taken to the hospital where he passed, a form of ritual had already begun. I was pulled into it with a simple text message: “Pray for Harry Kalas. He was found unconscious in the press box at the Nationals stadium.” I received similar texts and e-mails from others, some of the senders again being people I have never met in the “real world” sense. Across the world, others received similar texts and e-mails, and in an insanely short amount of time, a network of well-wishers, of folks who have never met but who shared a love for this man, blossomed.

That soon turned to a network of mourners, unfortunately, and the collective prayers turned to a widespread memorial. There were more texts and e-mails (one of my bosses, to whom I speak about sports plenty but probably never said a word about Kalas, sent me an e-mail from the midst of his vacation, some 3,000 miles away: “Sorry about Harry Kalas”), Facebook statuses were changed to quotes or commentaries on Harry the K’s legacy, and websites started pumping out entries discussing Kalas’s significance, his impact, and the collective loss we were now all sharing in.

Gone are the days when a beloved public figure passes and you don’t hear about it until the evening news, and don’t read something moving about it until the next morning’s paper or the next week’s issue of some magazine. Gone are the days when a beloved private figure passes and is only mourned and celebrated by a select few. Gone are the days when you have to be in a specific place, at a specific time, to take part in a specific moment. I wonder if some odd years from now, when folks look back on what is still, really, the dawning early days of the information age, if this isn’t one of the aspects that will be seen to have had the most widespread impact. The communities and bonds and public rituals that developed as a result of some tubes letting folks all over the world share some thoughts we each other. I hope so, because it’s some shit.

Ritual controls emotion while releasing it, and guides it while letting it run. Even in a time of grief, ritual lets joy be present through the permission to cry, lets tears become laughter, if they will, by making place for the fullness of tears’ intensity — all this in the presence of communal assertiveness.

…*ahem* I must be about to have my period or some shit, getting all serious and heartfelt like that. Carry on.









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Posted by: George at April 22, 2009 3:18 PM

I have to say that was rather beautiful, Seth. And out of all the writers here, up 'til now I rarely found anything very personal about your columns. So thank you for sharing your PMS emotions with us.

As a mom of three young children, I know I'd have gone completely insane without some of my online friends.

Posted by: Cindy at April 22, 2009 3:23 PM

Beautifully put and a compelling topic, too. Through the course of reading, you've inspired me. My Mom died on June 11, 2008 of a brain tumor. We had the requiste funeral, etc. I've been through all the things one goes through when one loses someone they love, but I'm struggling to say good-bye to her. I can't seem to do it and nothing has felt right or final or...I don't know how to put it. I'm just struggling. Anyway, you've inspired me to have my own "ritual" this year on the anniversary of her death. I don't know what it will be yet, but the mere thought of doing something different, something personal and honoring of her life and my love for her has me sitting here at work, crying in my office and feeling...comforted. Thank you. And I don't mean to get all depressing and serious and just not "cool". But, there it is. I feel better. Thanks.

Posted by: Megan at April 22, 2009 3:24 PM

Excellent, Seth. I admit that sometimes it feels odd to genuinely care for people that I've never actually met, but that's what's happened because of this site, and I'll be damned if I'd have it any other way.

Posted by: Sean at April 22, 2009 3:33 PM

Megan - every year on my grandfather's birthday (he passed away in 2005), my mother and grandmother purchase yellow balloons (his favorite color) and release them. I think they imagine my grandfather reaching out from wherever he is and plucking them out of the sky. It's a really nice little thing they do every year.

For me Pajiba has become so much more than a way to waste the workday. So many of you have become rather important to me in a way I couldn't have foreseen. I actually care about you and your lives and I only want the best for you. It's strange to even type that out. So, for me at least, it would have seemed odd if we hadn't reacted the way we all did to Amanda's death. It would have been wrong if we had just gone on about our business. That's not us. We may be snarky and snobby and have unscented shit, but we're real, and we're friends. Twenty-first century friends. You don't have to sit face to face with someone to know they're smiling at you.

Posted by: Kolby at April 22, 2009 3:34 PM

Jesus Christ, Seth. That was powerful. And quite beautiful as well. Ritual is something that has always fascinated me, in its secular and religious contexts.

Megan, I know what you mean--my dad died at the end of '07, and there's still days where it doesn't even feel real to me. So, in some small way, I know how you feel.

It melts my icy heart when I think about the little community we've all developed here, and to know I have a wee place of my own in our rituals; I am eternally grateful for it. Y'all rule.

*ahem* Now where's my axe?

Posted by: lizzieborden at April 22, 2009 3:40 PM

Kolby, that's it exactly. What you said! I swear, I am not tearing up right now.

Posted by: lizzieborden at April 22, 2009 3:42 PM

That was nicely put, Seth.
Humanity instinctively needs rituals, and if the ones we have aren't satisfying, we'll find another way.
I for one can't even think 'so say we all' now, without tearing up a little for Alabama....

I wonder if the inventors of the interwebs ever saw this coming?

Posted by: Tarn at April 22, 2009 3:43 PM

That was so lovely Seth.

My "real-life" friends find it an easily mockable subject, but only recently have they begun to understand how much I truly care for the people on this site. You get to know everyone's quirks, their writing styles, and their likes and dislikes just as easily as you would in person. And it's not just the regulars, those who post infrequently are just as noticed whether it seems that way or not. When I talk about you guys, I say "my friend ___ said the funniest thing." There's no distinguishing. I'll take companionship in whatever form it comes in. My friends are my life, whether I met you in my high school drama club or by bonding over Sneakers in a review thread.

I was so moved the day that Harry Kalas died. Within seconds of seeing it on the news, I had a phone call from my best friend, a text message from PissBoy, and the status updates of dozens and dozens of facebook friends banding together to mourn the loss of someone we never met but who we loved dearly.

Posted by: Julie at April 22, 2009 3:49 PM

That was the best thing you've ever written for this site, Seth. Don't get me wrong, I like your reviews and you were definitely missed during your severe lawyering, but this is something else altogether. Very nice.

Posted by: Snath at April 22, 2009 3:50 PM

Seth, that was excellent. I love coming to Pajiba several times a day, under the nose of my employers most of the time. I don't always read every post, or comment everytime, and I have, like everyone else, taken a fair amount of shit from time to time, but this does feel like, if not a family, at least a large group of very close friends, who can talk about anything. I am grateful for each and every one of you out there in Pajiba-land.

Posted by: dammitjanet at April 22, 2009 3:57 PM

Wonderful, lovely to read and all too true. We have our 'real world' rituals, funerals, weddings, depending on your religions, bar/bat mitzvah, communion, christening, confirmation, others I unwittingly confess ignorance to.
But I think the online rituals ESPECIALLY for our generation, are definately becoming as comforting and meaningful.

As a species, we're ARGUABLY becoming more distant from one another,( I stress arguably since I studied some of this stuff at Uni and know there are two sides to it) at least physically...but we are growing closer digitally. I have online friends I've never met in person but know more about (and vice versa) than some of my real life friends and family. My boyfriend(who I knew from university) and I turned a passing friendship into mad and passionate love over six months of IM'ing and one night of admitting feelings(we now visit one another every weekend and possible free day =D)

I remember even when an online friend was giving birth, hanging out on myspace in a group message situation sharing stories, updates and news about the delivery, as well as throwing digital baby showers before hand.
I love the way we crave things on a basic human level, so simply adjust out modern way of thinking and acting to absorb them, it says good things about us a people. If we can put so much meaning into simple things, or if we can show so much emotion for people we've never met, maybe their's hope for us yet.

Posted by: Nadine at April 22, 2009 4:00 PM

Kolby - Yellow was my Mom's favorite color as well. :) The balloons are a cool idea.

Lizzie - Thank you. I'm sorry about your Dad. I don't think it matters how old we are (31 in my case), no one is ever ready to lose a parent.

I must say, I read reviews and comments on this site all the time and I've even managed to contribute a line or two here and there. But, I've never felt cool enough, or smart enough, or hipster-ish enough to really share anything or comment regularly. Nonetheless, I appreciate reading all of the wit, humor and intelligence that the rest of you contribute.

Posted by: Megan at April 22, 2009 4:03 PM

Megan: You're good enough, you're smart enough, and--doggone it--people like you. Be heard!

Posted by: Sean at April 22, 2009 4:07 PM

I'm with Sean, Yaaaay Megan, gooo Megan, wooo!!!*this is sincere support*

Posted by: Nadine at April 22, 2009 4:10 PM

Hurrah for Megan posting more comments! Do it!

*shakes fist threateningly*
Dooo it....

And Seth, that was absolutely beautiful. I've always found it very easy to get attached to rituals of all sorts, and what you wrote really helped explain why.

Posted by: shinykate at April 22, 2009 4:16 PM

Good luck Megan, I really hope that whatever you decide to do in June helps you with your grief. It's so hard to imagine life without that pain, that ache in your chest that makes it hard to breathe...I've never lost a parent and I can not fathom what it's like, but through the losses I've endured I do know that it always gets easier. And it helps when your friends distract you with humor and love and underwear dances*.

*Mad props to my Janene, who in college helped me out of the severe depression my parents' divorce created by frequently running into my dorm room with no pants on while shaking her butt and pointing her fingers in the air. God, I love my friends.

Posted by: Julie at April 22, 2009 4:19 PM

Beautifully expressed, and familiar to my own ways of thinking. In the wake of my mother's recent death, the leader of my (well meaning, but ultimately ineffectual) grief support group told me that I need to do my own personal ritual in order to honor her memory, my grief, and anchor my feelings in a way that no one can really do for me. Sitting in a cold, bare, Protestant chapel for her funeral was A ritual, but not THE ritual to help me personally. Thanks for that post, it reminded me of what I need to do to help my personal grief, which I kind of keep at bay at the moment in order to attend to the others who loved her, too.

Posted by: Rachel at April 22, 2009 4:19 PM

It's funny, I was thinking about this just the other day. Not so much the ritual aspect, but the community aspect. I see things on the TV and think to myself, "Oh, so-and-so would laugh at that," and as often as not, it's a Pajifriend. It really is fascinating how you can become so close to someone around the world that you're not likely to ever meet. And it works the same way, too: witness the banning of The Notorious P-K-E, and how although some of us may have disagreed, it wasn't the end of any relationship, just as in life I still speak to my mom even after her remarks throughout last year's election process.

Megan, I'm sorry for your loss as well. My dad died of a brain tumor on 7/19/89. I never really did any date-specific ritual, other than just thinking about him; but whenever I watch anything Muppet or Monty Python related (those were his favorites), at any time, I always think of him too. I think that's maybe why I like Fringe so much; I think he'd enjoy it. He'd *totally* get a kick out of Walter. It's odd to think, now, that he's been gone for more than half of my life. Anyway, it's most certainly helpful to have that semi-ritual of remembering his sense of humor whenever I see something he would've liked.

Posted by: Anna von Beaverplatz at April 22, 2009 4:33 PM

That was really wonderful, Seth. Thank you. I hadn't really thought about the ritual aspect, but it definitely rings true.

The other week, the Main Squeeze was commenting about the fact that I didn't seem like the sort of person who would get involved in an online community. I can't remember his reasons.

In any case, the Pajibans are very important to me. And I'm so glad I found you all.

Posted by: tamatha at April 22, 2009 4:40 PM

Oh, and I have the hardest time describing this place. I'll often start out with, "it's ostensibly a movie/tv/book review site and related updates," and then attempt to explain the awesomeness of the commenters, but I never quite express properly the community aspect.

Sometimes I'll just say, "you know that web site I'm obsessed with?" and then launch into the related topic.

So, if someone has figured out how to explain this place to other people, let me know. I have yet to figure it out myself and often feel sheepish after failing once again to describe what it truly is.

Posted by: tamatha at April 22, 2009 4:50 PM

even after her remarks throughout last year's election process.

Are you saying she's stopped? Lucky you.

Yeah, I've acquired a few online universes through the last fourteen or so years. Facebook's funny because they all collide with each other and with local people and some old school people and such and random samplings of your friends talk to each other about you. It's bizarre but kinda neat. I had my first internet death, as it were, early 97 in the Elvis Costello listserv, and there was indeed sincere loss. Just a teenager with a sudden, freak condition that knocked him down. A listmember wrote a story for the paper here, including this quote:

"Where else can a 41-year-old man be close friends with a 17-year-old?"

Of meeting his friend in person, he said, "Perhaps that's the irony of the electronic relationship ---the steps of friendship are in a different order, but the result is the same."

Couldn't really do virtual wakes then, but it was already true and remains so. Fortunately I've gotten to meet many Costello and Belle and Sebastian friends (who're the people I could stand amongst that maddening twee-ass group), but I've only been around here a relatively short time. Just last night I was telling someone that it's like college was for a lot of people. You're all there already, doing the same stuff, bouncing off each other, with things to talk about. In the wider world in mixed company you don't know you've got things to say to each other as easily, no one's got a bunch of interesting text floating around them. You can fall in love like Nadine did though, certainly.

Posted by: Jay at April 22, 2009 5:01 PM

I had a bunch of folk that I "met" through a gossip blog almost 4 years ago, and we soon formed this insane, hysterical, very non-politically correct and definitely AWESOME friendship.... Hanging out for hours "together" every day. We had fights, we had laughs, Oh man, we had some good fucking times... to this day, some of us are still in contact through facebook and such.... Sadly our private blog that we had has disintegrated due to work nazis filtering out most of their web access. *shakes fist* One of your very own was part of it too..... But I'll never tell. He knows who he is.....

It's nice to know there are other groups out there in the innernet that "get" it.... I can totally tell you all are a tight bunch.....

Posted by: Janey at April 22, 2009 5:09 PM

Brilliantly written and very astute observations, Seth. And way to throw back the curtain and show that this raucous, debaucherous, and calloused crowd of miscreants is nothing more than a giant bag of marshmallows. Let me just quickly add that I love you guys, and if you cross me I may have to hurt you.

Your thoughts run similar to a book I read in Hawaii in 2000 - Robert Fulghum's "From Beginning to End - the Rituals of our Lives" and I couldn't really agree more that, with the decline of various religious influences in the face of a secular pluralism, people are creating their own, personally meaningful rituals, often in powerful ways. I just had a funeral on Monday for my grandmother - and while it was traditionally Mennonite, it was solemn, sad, yet joyful, a farewell and a celebration of life. For me it was everything I needed after a week of grieving privately, to get together with family for a proper send-off, but I kept thinking of Bama's online memorials and how I'd much rather people use those to remember me whenever my time comes up. Fulghum mentions how rituals come in great and small scales, and are central to a feeling of well-being, or control, or calm. I love how this community is my daily ritual, and look forward to seeing how online social networking shapes our future need for ritual and connection.

Posted by: lordhelmet at April 22, 2009 5:38 PM

That was beautiful Seth, and totally not what I expected when I clicked the link. Not sure exactly what I expected, but definitely not a moving essay.

Communities like this make the world a bit smaller everyday, and I think we're all better for it.

Posted by: stardust savant at April 22, 2009 5:49 PM

I've always wanted to be more involved in the comments on pajiba, but while it's easy (or easier) to find the time to read most posts, taking part in commenting is another commitment altogether. But when you put in the effort, the rewards are astonishing. Even if I can't join in, it's comforting to see so many people from all over congregate over shared interests and words.

Very nice piece, Seth.

Posted by: dsbs at April 22, 2009 6:17 PM

Ever since I was old enough to make the decision not to go to funerals in my huge extended family, I stopped. Instead, I volunteered to watch the multitude of kids, and between Disney movies and tag-you're-it games, I would take time to explain that mommy and daddy would be very sad, super sad, when they came to pick them up, so remember to be really good and give them lots of hugs. My sense of duty got me through, and interestingly enough in the kids' faithful careers of being kids, their sense of duty made them genuinely invested in being of comfort to their parents. Me and those kids, we got the rest of them through it. Nothing heals my heart faster.

Posted by: Sweetie Dahling at April 22, 2009 6:32 PM

Like everyone else commenting, I agree that this was a great piece, Seth.

I find I can't describe this site anymore to anyone either - it's not "just" a movie review site.
I'd be interested in learning more about some of the authors you mentioned too, it sounds like a fascinating topic, especially for someone as deeply anti-organized religion as I feel, sometimes.

Posted by: Stella at April 22, 2009 6:48 PM

Fantastic, Seth. You hit me with shivers a few times up there.

What's so amazing (to me) about Pajiba is how I feel like I'm part of something secret. I have friends who understand that if I begin to giggle while at my computer it's because I'm reading this site. And it's only in the last year that I've begun to *feel* the personalities of all the writers--you in particular, Seth--and for that, too, I feel even more integrated. I trust your opinions, understand your grief and when Alabama Pink died, I dunno. I was genuinely gutted, which shocked me. Still shocks me. Bah... I dunno what I'm getting at here. It's just--thanks, I guess. GAahh, you made me all flummoxed! Emotion!

Posted by: Sapphiar at April 22, 2009 7:26 PM

I never said anything when AP's death hit Pajiba, because I felt like nothing I could say would be helpful, and that I was too late to the party for my words to have meaning. Thanks for giving me a chance to right that wrong. I'm so sorry to her family.

Posted by: octothorp at April 22, 2009 9:12 PM

I don't mourn much and I don't cry much and I don't go to cemeteries. I had an uncle die earlier this year and I was happy his suffering was over, so I didn't tear up for him but for my aunt. I'm just not real emotional. Mrs. , gave me semishit about it once. Years ago now I had a teenage niece incinerated in a car crash. I didn't get too worked up at the funeral and Mrs. , wanted to know why not? I tried to understand it myself, and realized that I barely knew her, saw her once or twice a year maybe, had no idea what she was like or interested in or ... who she was.

So when Pink died and I felt as much punched in the gut as I ever do, I wondered what the hell was going on here, going on with me?

Eventually I realized I knew Pink -- and I know many of you -- way better than I do my friends, better than many people in my family, from reading your thoughts and hates and hopes every day. This isn't just a virtual community, it's a virtual family. A messed-up, pissed-off, fightin' feudin' fuckin' incestuous family. Every day it's like the Royal Tenebaums here.

And I love it. And I love you all.

Posted by: , (the commenter formerly known as bucdaddy) at April 22, 2009 10:40 PM

Oh yeah, coincidentally I got a thank-you card today for the donation I sent to Little A's fund and it brought that all back.

Posted by: , (the commenter formerly known as bucdaddy) at April 22, 2009 10:42 PM

A beautiful peice of writing Seth and I'm sorry to hear about your impending menstruation but, that being said;

It's definately difficult to explain to somebody who doesn't have these internet "freinds" what the big deal is. I would much rather talk to the bunch of you (all of you) about whatever, then the vast majority of people I have to talk to on any given day. It's pretty rare to find anyone who even remotely shares my sometimes harsh world view and twisted sense of humor. Except here. I can't be who I am on a day to day basis, so it's extremely cathartic to spew my nonsense here or on Stalkerbook. Whether you people like it or not.

The other day my wife gave me hell for spending too much time on here and FB. Given that I was working 12 hours a day for two weeks and we hadn't spent much time together, she had a good point. I asked her what she would like to talk about? She didn't know, so I suggested the coming zombie apocolypse. She's starting to get it now.

I also wanted to comment on Amanda's funeral webcast. It sounds kind of stupid, but that was the best funeral that I've ever been to. I really don't like the somber, everybodies quiet and sad type send-off. There's nothing wrong with them, but it was really good for the soul to be able to mourn, talk, remember and laugh with my friends.

Hurrumph uhhhhmmmm......boobies.

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Posted by: 11 at April 22, 2009 11:19 PM

When I said "I love you all," I didn't mean 11.

Posted by: , (the commenter formerly known as bucdaddy) at April 22, 2009 11:41 PM

Well said Seth. Well said.

Posted by: Melody at April 23, 2009 12:15 AM

What a wonderful post, Seth, and thread, too. I love this Pajibaland, I truly do.

Anna, I do the same thing with my dad, but for Spencer books and Star Trek, just send a little love out to the Universe for my dad when I come across those things. :)

Posted by: Chickaboom at April 23, 2009 12:42 AM

Yes. Yes, yes.

Wonderfully written look at a topic that is strangely on my mind quite often. Great job. And thanks.

Posted by: AgoGo at April 23, 2009 1:13 AM

I wonder what Pookie would have made of your entry, Mr Freilich?

It saddens me that we'll never know.

Posted by: Peter G at April 23, 2009 1:31 AM

With all the talk of funerals, I didn't tell about my dad's. He died of cancer Aug. 19, 2001. My kids were 14, 10 and 7. They were all very, very close to their Papaw. My dad didn't want the public viewing, as he said he " didn't want people looking at him like he was a side of beef." He and my mom pre-planned his funeral when he was diagnosed, so he got what he wanted. He was to be cremated, so their was no coffin for the family-only visitation we had. He was on a "bed" of sorts. My kids all drew pictures of their favorite thing to do with Papaw (fishing, sitting in the porch swing, reading) and placed the pictures on his lap. When he was taken to be cremated, the pictures went with him, so that the kids' memories would be a part of him, and vice versa, for ever.

My oldest daughter was able to visit him, albeit against his wishes, in the hospital the final week, so she got to say goodbye. The younger 2 did not. So, at the family dinner after the visitation (we did one of those kill-2-birds-with-one-stone deals, all in one day) they were walking down the hall in the church basement when they saw my dad. He was wearing the clothes he'd been in at the funeral home, and he just smiled and waved at them, before fading away. He came to tell them goodbye.

I learned a lesson from my dad, and it has been reinforced by the large number of friends (both real and cyber) who have passed away in the last few years. PRE-PLAN!! I have a list of music& a CD, ever evolving, already that I want to be played ("Another Tricky Day"? you bet it's on there!) I, too, do not want to be viewed by every schmuck on the street, and I want it to be a celebration. Lots of pix, even embarrassing ones, video, what have you, and lots and LOTS of liquor and food. Celebrate the time I was here, not that I have moved on. And, I have told my kids, if they have some church service, with some minister who never met me and knew nothing about me, I will come back and haunt the shit out of them!

Posted by: dammitjanet at April 23, 2009 6:27 AM

I have to agree with everybody excellent post Seth.

The thing that most astounds me is how much I laugh when I read the stuff here, be it reviews, trade news or comments. And that's coming from somebody whose "real" friends frequently roll their eyes and pretend to not understand me when I try to make joke. So I am continually amazed by all the people here.
Keep it up!!!

Posted by: tris at April 23, 2009 6:28 AM

damn I didn't refresh before I posted and now I feel bad for my comment about humor when everybody else is sharing funeral stories

Posted by: tris at April 23, 2009 6:34 AM

I feel bad for my comment about humor

Well, don't. Death always needs a sense of humor.

Posted by: Jay at April 23, 2009 6:54 AM

tris, do NOT feel bad about your comment about humor! After my dad's service, we told horrible stories about him....passing out in his plate of food, driving partially off a bridge with a car full of kids, getting kicked in the head by a cow...and we LAUGHED!! That's what I want. I don't want weeping, crying, tearing of hair and rending of garments...I want stories about what a "24" fanatic I am, how much I like Sci Fi, my bad attempts at writing, and so on. I want embarrassing, goofy pictures of me up...I want FUN!!!

So, your humor is completely appropriate because that is how we deal.

Posted by: dammitjanet at April 23, 2009 8:38 AM

...well, maybe a little rending of garments, dammitjanet... because nudity is funny.

Hee, Chickaboom, I always watch the original series ST marathon and the Twilight Zone marathon for the same reason. And I like the way you put this: "just send a little love out to the Universe for my dad". Exactly. Perfect.

Posted by: Anna von Beaverplatz at April 23, 2009 8:53 AM

Hmmmm, clothing optional wake?

With the amount of alcohol I want to be imbibed, it could happen.

Posted by: dammitjanet at April 23, 2009 9:17 AM

will there be a webcast again ?
because that would be perfect PPV

Posted by: tris at April 23, 2009 9:24 AM

Mrs. , has instructions to prop me up in the corner of the rock club, book 63 Eyes and Triple Shot to play all night, and (most important): open bar! I better see some motherfuckers dance, from wherever I am.

Posted by: , (the commenter formerly known as bucdaddy) at April 23, 2009 9:53 AM

Oh, you can bet your ass!

Posted by: dammitjanet at April 23, 2009 10:48 AM

Yes, humour has a place. I absolutely get why the remaining Pythons sang 'Always Look on the Bright Side of Life' at Graham Chapman's funeral. I think I want that at mine, too.

I remember my Dad fondly every time one of my family uses one of his many catchphrases or little funnies. He had a ton of them. And every time I look around my flat, because he did so much work there; my computer desk, my cute faux fireplace, my bathroom. All evidence of his caring - and of how much he liked an excuse to get away from my mum after he'd retired! ;-)

Did anyone else see that Alabama's Dad posted on her RIP thread? It's very moving. I wanted to thank him, but didn't know what to say.

Posted by: Tarn at April 23, 2009 11:09 AM

I saw that Tarn. It broke my heart, what a sweet man.

Posted by: Julie at April 23, 2009 11:26 AM

Ok, I'm trying to stop lurking and comment more (after reading the AFD comment threads), but I don't read this every day so I'm always late to the party. Oh well - here goes.

Seth - that was beautifully written. I have been reading this site on and off for a couple of years and most of my friends now know it by name - I reference it a lot in conversation.

Since I don't contribute much, I haven't felt like part of the community, but reading the comment threads sometimes feel like watching a really good TV show. You laugh, you cry and you get invested in these people you don't know at all. So thank you all for that. And thanks for that time that my boss caught me laughing out loud at my computer. I had no explanation.

Posted by: NTP at April 23, 2009 11:35 AM

Tarn, Julie:

I saw it too. It made me tear up.

Posted by: Melody at April 23, 2009 11:46 AM

Beautiful post, Seth. This is what I love about Pajiba - like others have said - so much more than a review site.

I think one of the rituals that means the most to me is skipping with my dad. We don't really say 'I love you' much in my family, but dad and I have a few little rituals that feel to me like saying just that. Since I was little, every time we leave a restaurant we'll skip as far as the car, even if the car is a ten minute walk away across a busy city centre. Even when it embarassed me as a teenager I still did it and I hope we always will.

Posted by: Gumble at April 23, 2009 12:11 PM

Anybody also notice that ahamos has stuck his head in here and chipped in?

Posted by: lordhelmet at April 23, 2009 12:24 PM

Seth, there was so much about this that I loved and with which I identified.

The community here is something that I can't explain to my friends or co-workers, but has had a profound impact on me. When my dad had a massive heart attack a few months ago, it was the AMAZING Pajiba people who helped get me through it. Knowing I could email or chat with or talk on the phone with smart, caring, thoughtful and *funny* people meant the world to me. Unlike with my real-world friends & family, I didn't have to make small talk or put on a brave front or have to be hugged when I didn't feel like being hugged (dammit!). I was so grateful to know that I had a connection with people who would sympathize with me and would also give me good advice if I asked for it. I was very aware of the sense of intimacy and comfort they provided, without encroaching on my personal space.

If you would have told me a year ago that the snarkly Pie Atheist Sarina would be one of my biggest providers of support, I'd a thought you had hit your head on something hard. And if you would have told me a year ago that I would participate in an online memorial service, I would have said, "what? why? who does that?", but now I understand and am so very honored to have attended.

Sorry for the rambling. This really struck a chord with me and I guess I needed to get my feelings out, too. You know, before my period starts...

Posted by: Lainey at April 23, 2009 12:28 PM

Great piece.

One of the most poignant moments of my undergraduate studies came in a Great Books course in which I set out to apply Joseph Campbell's archetypes to The Great Gatsby. It was poignant because instead of writing about rituals (or the lack thereof) for Nick Carraway or Jay Gatsby I ended up writing about myself, unexpectedly finding a lens through which I could see a unity between my spiritual and other selves.

Here's the Campbell quote from "Hero With a Thousand Faces" that's stuck with me so strongly:

"When we... consider the numerous strange rituals that have been reported from the primitive tribes and great civilizations of the past, it becomes apparent that the purpose and actual effect of these was to conduct people across those difficult thresholds of transformation that demand a change in the patterns not only of conscious but also of unconscious life. ... It has always been the prime function of mythology and rite to supply the symbols that carry the human spirit forward, in counteraction to those other constant human fantasies that tend to tie it back. In fact, it may well be that the very high incidence of neuroticism among ourselves follows from the decline among us of such effective spiritual aid."

Posted by: The Kessler Shuffle at April 23, 2009 5:55 PM

I'm still fairly new around here. I lurked for...hmmmm...maybe 5 minutes (it was more like a week, I don't know how you guys do it for weeks, months or years) but then I jumped right in. Some of my friends get me some of the time. I managed to navigate my way here from one site or another (and Oh Boy! this is gonna sound like a whole lotta trite) and it felt like coming home. So often the comments are exactly what I was thinking. The topics are things I want to think about and discuss and I can without reservation or fear of judgement. The sense of community is wonderful. It's also my good fortune (and the rest of the inhabitants, I'd say) to have the opportunity to read beautifully written pieces such as that demonstrated here. Thank you.

I wish I hadn't been so late to the party, but I'm glad to have had the chance to attend at all.

Posted by: Eyvi at April 24, 2009 6:46 PM


















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