Pajiba

I'm just hoping that they didn't vet the audience very well. I want some good old fashion TERRORIST! and ARAB! chants.

Then perhaps the declaration of a Jihad.

MMMMMMMMMMMMmmmmmmm, Jihad.

Oh my, Skitz. You have presented me with quite an idea.

I did not make it through the previous debate threads, so maybe this has been addressed already: I can't stop laughing at that picture. Obama doesn't exactly look like a spring chicken. But McCain looks like the world's oldest, blotchiest, comboveriest man/woman. Is he asking Obama for a break so he can check his adult diaper? He appears to be whispering a shameful secret and Obama is listening quite Presidentially.

Cara, he's just telling Obama what he'd do if "all these damn cameras weren't around".

Sometimes I wish that I cared less.

Still, here's hoping something exciting happens - like, they ANSWER the questions.

Oh Stella, you're adorable.

Also, perhaps, Admin11, you, Skitz and I should chillax on the jihad talk...there's a danger that the site gets flagged and agents come to our houses, round us up, and torture us...not in the sexy way, either.

The only debate I've caught so far was the VP one, so I'm strangely interested in this one. It can't possibly be as entertaining; I think both of these guys know how to say nuclear.

...right?

C'mon Marra any torture is sexy torture. Hancuffs and whips and chains Oh My!

Oh, totally, Admin11, I can get my kink on with the best of Pajibans...it's the Jack Bauer shoots you in the kneecaps in order to get you to reveal the location of the murdertank torture I can't take.

"Tonight's debate will feature question submitted by Internet. Sen. Obama, 'leetmeatbag69' asks, 'WILL U GIVE ME WAREZ D00D'? You have two minutes."

"It's my intention as President to provide 'warez' to every American who needs them. 'Warez' are a basic right, like education, health care, and gold-plated robots with laser eyes."

"Sen. McCain?"

"My friends, this person is clearly a terrorist. I support whatever the President has done, is doing, or will do to him, regardless of whether it's legal. After all, he's the President. Anything he does is legal! Why do you think I want the job so bad? Two words - unbaptized babies. Babies for the necromantic elixer vitae that will extend my life..."

Puppies meowing? Oh no! my sweet Admin, they've gotten to you already!

***Looong day at work. No energy or enthusiasm to even try & jump in here tonight. This "debate" is gonna suck probably even moreso than the last two, and I'm not staying awake long enough to watch it. However ***

Lessee if I can encapsulate tonight's debate without benefit(?) of having yet seen it, 'kay?

Questions Will Be Asked.

The candidates will not answer any of them to our complete satisfaction. They will instead wander off the path to recite their own pre-written agendas that have been carefully mapped out for them by their writers.

Separate Ideas and Policies Will Be Either Ignored Nor Allowed to Be Aired During This Time.

Ohhh, you betcha! Because these two fucks can't GIVE you a specific policy or idea, they're too "campaign-weary" and don't have the inclination to try and adequately share their positions or opinons on subjects that will really matter in the future.

McCain May or May Not Shake Hands/Make Eye Contact with Obama:

That's another reason we're all quite familiar with McCain's 'Maverick' style (true fact: the 'Maverick' horses of the old west never made eye contact OR shook hands with harmless human bein), so let's give the ol' man a pass on his awkward social skills, even after 70 years, agreed?

So if you're expecting "NEW IDEAS" or "MOMENTS OF CLARITY" from these two puppets on a soundstage, too self-involved to communicate to a flesh-and-blood audience without carefully-prepared responses, howzabout the next question be:

This is a DEBATE, jerkwads- HERE'S your time; HERE'S your absolute FREE TIME to speak all across America, to EVERYONE'S VOTE you want and so desperately need.

TELL us what your thoughts are, not what you just read in 'USA Today', or some little sound bite that will come back to bite YOU right in the ass--

FACE your damn opponent, tell the dude how pathetically inadequate he is to run the USA, and JUST WHY THE FUCK YOU'D DO BETTER!

I'm serious guys, you fuck it up tonight and I have no respect or hope left for either of you.

I went through eight sublime years of the Clinton administration, followed by eight years of madness, wreckless spending and depletion of our deficit, THOUSANDS of our young people, so vital to your next generation, all gone because of one idiot's decision to outdo his daddy; an economy that we don't know is going to collapse before we wake up in the morning (Nice parting gift btw, Bush. Is this dude, and his posse, ever gonna be held accountable for what they did to us? By either administration?)

A'right, enough already: no more soap-boxing, no more outrage or genuine thrill of wanting the bad guys to lose so badly.. (I was screaming at my ceiling from my bed back in March of 1995, dictating entire books on how the Bush admin fucked us, through the wee hours of the morning, only to just go to sleep tired and more pissed off the next workday, so don't tell me I haven't been through my own"angry" phase. I still deal with it, just on different levels.)

Please prove me wrong, Pajibans. Please tell me history isn't going to be shoved back into my face with the same old policies and practices that will ensure our country's destruction, or being defeated, within our lifetime.

I'm a fatalist, I can't help it. I don't believe ANY ONE PERSON can save our country, President or not. But which candidate that we presently have to choose from would you take a chance on for a future of any kind?

That's it for tonight, be grateful I didn't take up more screen space.

You guys PLEASE go on with your 'own' debate tonight so I'll have plenty to read in the morning - I READ ALL COMMENTS, because you're worth it.

Oh wow, sounds like this guy means business.

Oh Admin11, politicians mean what they say here? Pfft.

Hulu is streaming the debate, which is cool; unfortunately they're streaming the Fox Network's coverage. Shit. I might have to get up and go in the TV room...I love CNN's squiggly lines...

McCain looks lost and scared.

wooo Hofstra! totally lived five minutes from there.

FYI: do you know Hofstra has its own STD? guess if you can name it!

Admin11, cows neigh and horses moo--what do the pigs say? And do you really put mayonnaise on your French fries? What do you put ketchup on?

Joe Hertzleburger? Actually, this whole schpeil is pretty effective...if not entirely true.

My friends, people are anger and they're hurting.

They're hurting. And angry.

And quit blinking at me, I'm a married woman.

Oooh, McCain's going for one vote at a time. That's a new tactic...

jerce, mayo on fries is a European thing...

Joe the Plumber! Do you think he knows Joe Six Pack???

I'd like to know exactly which independent studies said that, Sen. Obama. Just sayin'.

McCain is throwing some wild punches. Smells like desperation.

Second highest tax rate? Does mccain know about, oh, I dunno, Europe? Every poor debtridden country in africa?

Desperate, indeed. He's not even letting Obama finish his reply now. Just talking over him.

McCain just got a single clap. Votes on who it was?

PS: Obama, thank you for saying you wouldn't mind paying more in taxes.

McCain blinks a lot. >.>

Moderator: Both of your economic plans are completely useless. THoughts?

"Joe the Plumber" my bit white overfed ass. When do you think was the last time the Senator really had an actual conversation with a working man?

I suspect that both candidates are mostly facade--but McCain's facade is way crappier. He just screams "fake."

lainey, he'll be on CNN in the morning. They'll want his opinion on who won the debate.

During the depression, we had a thing called home ownership...I personally oversaw this measure, and I can tell you it worked great.

Oh, you wanted me to answer the question? uh, no thanks.

back during the depression? The Great Depression of the 1930s, John?

McCain is holding out on us again "I know how to..."

I think he's whispering "cut out the pork", wink wink. "Let's go back to my hotel room after this."

No! No! No! You cunt! Not the Planetarium again. Eat a dick.

Is it just me or does Obama never right shit. When they pan over to McCain when Obamas talking he is always writing like his life depends on it. (insert your own joke here) But when the camera pans over to Obama he is just sitting their. Is that just me?

"I'm not President Bush. . . . "

OK, I'll give McCain props for that one.

That made me laugh.

Oh man, McCain has been *dying* to use that Bush line!

YOUR not "you're"

Sorry if this is gross, but now I'm imagining McCain hacking someone up with a hatchet, then using a scalpel to sift thru the chunky mess.

Oh, yeah. He's of sound mind.

And if he doesn't back off the attacks, I'm gonna have to drive up to NY and smack that soulless smirk off his monstrous mug.

I love that McCain says that Obama wants to "Spread the wealth" so derisively, like it's a bad thing to want more than 5% of the people to be financially comfortable.

I've disagreed with Bush...a full 10% of the time! Come on! Make me president already.

ABC News / You Tube has the full 6 minutes w/that plumber McCain brought up tonight.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFC9jv9jfoA

Obama explains that he'll get income increase but the business break on health care but he doesn't bulls**t him about raising his taxes from 36% to 39%.

Oh my god. This moderator rocks ass.

Wait, we're going to eliminate spending AND win the war in Iraq how?

Ugh...Now McCain is basically saying, "if he'd only been willing to do things MY way..."

What, you wouldn't have behaved like a hatemonger?

That's mature.

Did McCain just say it's Obama's fault that I called him a terrorist blackie?

Hmmm...the campaign has been tough...tough as in racist fear-mongering maybe?

I don't...I mean, what the fuck? You can't just say one thing and then do the exact opposite and have no one call you on your shit.

I can't fucking deal with this. Admin, about Canada...how fucked up is it? Cuz I can't deal with this shit anymore.

McCain: "You hurt my feelings. Take it back!"

Obama is responding exactly right. Back to the issues.

Admin11, Joe the Plumber loves football.

That's right, McCain remembers back after the revolution, when George Washington ran some of the worst tv ads. Really, McCain thought it was shameful.

Hehe, he said "tit"

McCain looks like he's going to lose it.

And he is a pig.

Marra my dear, Canada isn't fucked up at all. We're special. AND NOT LITTLE BLUE BUS SPECIAL EITHER!

He demands repudiation from Obama for the behavior of a dude who had nothing to do with Obama's campaign, but doesn't offer to repudiate his running mate's behavior.

Oh--he's PROUD of the lynch mobs. That's fucking great.

He didn't repudiate Palin saying Obama was palling around with terrorists, now did he?

Sofi, hi baby girl - yeah, all Americans are actually named Joe...please keep that a secret, ok?

God, McCain seriously, seriously sounds like a pissy little bitch! He sounds just like my employees - "it's the way she said it." Also, quit fucking interrupting!

McCain's hypocrisy and out and out lies are making me want to throttle him.

Is McCain trying to use Morse Code with his eyes?

So....we're meant to focus on Obama's "relationship" with Ayers, but we should totally ignore McCain's "relationship" with Bush?

these are some of the BEST questions I've seen.

Holy Shit.

I suddenly love Bob Scheifer.

Best question ever. GO GET HIM OBAMA!

Dear Senator McCain,

I did not give you permission to use my likeness or my name in your debate. Please cease and desist at once or you will come to know the strength of my plumber hand.

Regards,

JTP

How much do you bet that McCain doesn't say a single word about Palin's worth? I'm betting he uses his whole time to smear Biden.

We are allowed to use the word cunt on McCain's women because he did it first.

Do we have to drink if they say Joe Biden?

Like these questions better! McCain: why did you pick an uneducated, small-minded, hypocritical beauty queen bitch who just got her passport last year - as your running mate?

Yes, a bresh of freth air.

I need some of that.

Special needs families!!!!!!!!

FUCK.
NO.

He DID NOT just call Palin a role model for women.

Fuck you, McCain. You have no clue what I consider a role model.

She saw corruption and resigned? What, hasn't she looked in a mirror since that whole "you divorced my sister-in-law, I'm going to ruin your life" debacle?

How dare you question my VP candidate? She's from Alaska, god dammit. She has a retard baby! And glasses! Don't you know people with glasses are fucking smart and shit?

Did he just say that the first Gulf war was about oil?

Heh. McCain said "Cockamamie."

"Climate change"

Well played, McCain. I'm sure Cameron Diaz is about to tattoo your face on her ass.

McCain is a vile pig. His condescending attitude toward Obama is just disgusting.

Canadian oil is O.K. Fuck you asshole we don't belong to you.

And where do you think you'll get your uranium? Canada. Apparently we are McCain's savior for energy.

Dear Senator McCain,

Fuck you sideways.

I have worked too damn m'effing hard to have you insult my collective intelligence with your idiotic assertion that Sarah Palin is a role model for me.

I am calling Bullshit and Shenanigans.

And fuck you sideways again.

Yours in Disgust,

Women

How dare you question my VP candidate? She's from Alaska, god dammit. She has a retard baby! And glasses! Don't you know people with glasses are fucking smart and shit?

Posted by: Marra

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA --- I love you!

McCain is a vile pig.

Hey, Cindy, would you say he's a barrel of pork?

I'd love to name my dogs Bullshit and Shenanigans. Those would be awesome names.

Oh my God, this guy is an arrogant asshole!!!

OK, people who act like HIM are the reason foreigners aren't so crazy about Americans.

I'd love to name my dogs Bullshit and Shenanigans.

I'm pretty sure my neighbors just heard me laughing.

I hope McCain falls down some stairs and can't get up again. That ought to wipe that sarcastic smile off his face.

Obama should travel south of the border?! Should Palin LEAVE THE COUNTRY?!

WOOOOO Detroit!!! ((I'm drinking whiskey))

Senator Obama should travel to Colombia! Just like when I told him to travel to Iraq!....and then he went........but I made fun of him anyway! Cuz I am craaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaazy! Woooooooo! Batshit insane! You like this? I got a whollllllllleeeeeeeeee lot more of it!

For those unfamiliar, I was raised in Detroit.

Optimus, darling, your ideas make me crave for your embrace.

Obama for Honorary Eloquent!

Mr. Obama, you can also have the RattlerDildOscar.

Two women, Jill Ovarian cancer and Jane Lyme Disease, are very worried right now.

How much do health care premiums cost in the US?

Two women, Jill Ovarian cancer and Jane Lyme Disease, are very worried right now.

Posted by: Marra at October 15, 2008 9:57 PM

I just snorted chicken out of my nose! That was awesome!

Joe the fucking plumber. Again.

AND MY FRIEND!

Fuck me.

I want to find Joe the plumber and slap him across the face. DO NOT SPEAK TO THE OLD EVIL MAN! What did yo mamma tell you!

Zero! *blink* *blink* *blink*
Fuck you McCain, Fuck you and your Reaganomics.

Best Debate Moment: McCain open mouthed. No fine, small business exempt.

Joe The Plumber is getting a LOT of attention tonight (Do you think he is related to Joe Six Pack??).

Once again, hello Mr. McCain this is Canada. We have universal health care. we're fine. Stay away from our natural resources.

Screw it. I'm voting for Obama. McCain obviously has no idea where he is...

My husband works for a company that sues Insurance Companies for failure to pay. Insurance companies are fuckers, they basically have built into their system, at every level, ways of refusing to provide agreed upon coverage or pay doctors.
Obama's interest in regulating the industry would be massively welcome. Second to that, McCain just took a swipe at it by saying "Well, if you like a system like that, you'd love Canada or England." Well, when we lived in England I could get Xrays for free, regardless of my insured/uninsured status. So yeah, I do like systems like that.

I have arrived.

And who the motherfuck is Joe?

Joe The Plumber is getting a LOT of attention tonight (Do you think he is related to Joe Six Pack??).

ncnn, wow, I had no idea.

That is unbelievable to me.

Senator Government is the greatest Transformer ever.

oh my god! i thought mccain was just about to jump through the television and attack me!

at least he wouldn't hit my face (unless maybe a head-butt)

Ooh, Roe v. Wade...

Roe v. Wade!!! Marra, I think Jill Two-Tequila-Shots is gonna be mentioned pretty soon!

Oh boy. Roe v. Wade..

Bless you Bob.

So McCain believes choice for women should be decided by the states? Oh bloody fantastic.

I realized that if Obama came up to me and said, "If you give me a beej, I will save the country." I would reply, "Yes, I would do it for free."
Needless to say, I love the man.

Stay out of my uterus John McCain.

Obama supports Roe v Wade. It is SO nice to have someone FINALLY stand up for women's right to choose.

GREAT answer, Sen Obama.

Just look at him.

Me bad! bachomp bachomp bachewy chomp!

ncnn, wow, I had no idea.

That is unbelievable to me.

Senator Government is the greatest Transformer ever.

Posted by: kalafraja at October 15, 2008 10:05 PM

It gets worse. My parents are retired, have enough of an income to not worry about day to day living; HOWEVER, when my step-father turned 65, he went on Medi-Care, so his healthcare is covered by the government. My mother, on the other hand, had a choice of paying $800/month just for healthcare (doesn't include prescriptions) or having no health care. So for the next two years, she will have no healthcare benefits, and has to hope she'll stay healthy for those two years. She gets most of her prescriptions at Wal-Mart, but is going to have to look to (wait for it) CANADA to get her asthma medicine, because it's over $300 for one month's dose here, and about $90 in Canada. SHE CANNOT AFFORD HEALTHCARE. Period. Retired, financially secure, but not rich. Can't afford to pay $800/month for healthcare. It SUCKS.

Welcome to the USA.

McCain said he wouldn't use a litmus test, but anyone who supports roe v. wade wouldn't be qualified anyway??? did he just say that???????

pixie., I think he forgot what his point was halfway through. :/

I realized that if Obama came up to me and said, "If you give me a beej, I will save the country." I would reply, "Yes, I would do it for free."
Needless to say, I love the man.

Nice answer from Obama.

If rich white men had the ability to get pregnant, gain 30-50 pounds, get swollen feet and look big for 9 months...I be a million bucks that abortion would not be an issue at all. FU, I'm a woman and it's my body!!!

Awww last question. I was really hoping it'd be "boxers or briefs?".

ncnn, wow, I had no idea.

That is unbelievable to me.

Senator Government is the greatest Transformer ever.

Posted by: kalafraja at October 15, 2008 10:05 PM

It gets worse. My parents are retired, have enough of an income to not worry about day to day living; HOWEVER, when my step-father turned 65, he went on Medi-Care, so his healthcare is covered by the government. My mother, on the other hand, had a choice of paying $800/month just for healthcare (doesn't include prescriptions) or having no health care. So for the next two years, she will have no healthcare benefits, and has to hope she'll stay healthy for those two years. She gets most of her prescriptions at Wal-Mart, but is going to have to look to (wait for it) CANADA to get her asthma medicine, because it's over $300 for one month's dose here, and about $90 in Canada. SHE CANNOT AFFORD HEALTHCARE. Period. Retired, financially secure, but not rich. Can't afford to pay $800/month for healthcare. It SUCKS.

Welcome to the USA.

Thank you! I'm so fucking sick of us shouting We're #1! We're #1! when we aren't number one in anything.

Did he just say EDUCATION was the civil rights movement on the century? Really?! THAT'S the one? Not, say, Gay Marriage?

Quick question: Is by saying that education is the Civil Rights Movement of this century, does John McCain mean that African-Americans are the reason why our education levels are down? I mean...he then used New Orleans as an example.

Did he just say EDUCATION was the civil rights movement of the century? Really?! THAT'S the one? Not, say, Gay Marriage?

Oh, really, McCain? Reward teachers, but not with money? ARE YOU EVEN LISTENING TO YOURSELF?

$5 says McCain appeals to Joe The Plumber again in his closing remarks. Anyone?

Oh my God!!!! Did McCain just say that he wants people to go straight from the military and into teaching without having to bother with exams??? Yeah, that'll improve the quality of education.

Wow John. Just Wow.

Pro-abortion?!!!

McCain doesn't like Obama's eloquence, so he must be Anti-Education.

I should have watched my Netflix instead of this tripe. No new info here, ugh.

And stroke in...3........2........1......

Pro-abortion?!!!

McCain doesn't like Obama's eloquence, so he must be Anti-Education.

OMG, he said my Friends.

I AIN'T YER FRIEND.

I am so goddamn tired of McCain and that bitch Sarah Palin using her child as a cause, just because the baby has down syndrome. It's a fucking child, that as far as I can guess, she doesn't even like...I'm studying to be a teacher for children with special needs (which is the proper language; person-first. child with special needs, not special needs baby, disabled child) and everytime Palin or McCain bring Trig (or track or crane or dumptruck, whatever the kid's name is) up, I want to hit something...usually one of them. Oh she didn't abort her baby with down syndrome; well no shit, she's pro-life. And we're supposed to applaud her for having the baby anyways? Which basically means that because the child has a disability, he's of less value. What the fuck, does this woman think the country is made up of Peter Singers? Now I may not believe in God or heaven or hell, but for Palin, I'll make an exception. She's going to that very special kind of hell, where they beat you bamboo sticks, light you on fire, and then tell you they're letting you leave, only to rick-roll you and then beat you some more.

Ugh, I'm gonna take a page out of Dustin's book and stare at Ryan Reynolds now. Christ, i need a drink...

Obama is so good. He just keeps going when McCain cuts him off, continue to remain on point, doesn't let McCain ruffle his feathers.

McCain needs to give up. What a condescending fucker.

Did he just snort??

You know, McCain stumbling and bumbling through his closing comment is only allowing Obama to sound presidential in comparison. Again.

Every time I think I can't despise him more, he does that irritating smirk and GWB laugh, interrupts, and acts like a petulant child.

I didn't really loathe him until tonight. If I was in any way undecided, this would have SHOVED me right over to Obama!

Dear John,

Sorry honey, I didn't have to fight for access to education like Senator and Mrs. Obama. A proud line of Six Pack's, most recently Joe, bought enough beer to fund that for me.

Going to take some 'ludes now. I like the fuzzy feeling.

Love and kisses,
Cindy

Obama says, "I'm not risky, but he is." Nice close.

Bloody hell, I missed most of the debate. Whatever. You know who actually won tonight? CHILE, motherfuckers, 1-0 over Argentina.

And I'm going for another drink. Woo hoo!

My Dear Pajibans,

We got more of the same in our election. We'll still take you. We have lots of room in Saskatchewan.

So, I live in the same area as JP there, and our local news stations are flipping out over it. "MEET JOE PLUMBER ON OUR NEWSCAST!"
And the first commercial after the broadcast? Another McCain smear ad about ZOMBLIBERALS.

Oh Godtopus, the 2 people from Ohio basically just said they were leaning toward McCain. These are Joe and Jane Sixpack - my neighbors.

rio>> McCain did mention autism specifically, but my interpretation of the connection to Palin was that he was talking about special needs children in general. He didn't articulate it very clearly, but I thought the implication was there.

Mitt Romney has no fucking clue about anything.

Had Obama on his heels my ass. What the fuck.

Skitz, I think you mean "a bresh of freth air".

You want to win my vote? Give me more tits to leer at, more suckers to overcharge for "fixing leaks", looser pants that show more ass crack, and more beer during my lunch break. Oh yeah, can you find some way to screw over Frank the Electrician? I fucking hate electricians.
---Joe the Plumber

Admin11, I'm sorry, I just noticed this. Canada isn't short bus special? Didn't you just lambast cartons because they have corners, and bagged milk is better because it's soft? I dunno, that seems a little dumptruck Palin to me.

Although, I do apologize on behalf of John McCain. I promise to do everything in my power (i.e. nothing) to keep him away from your wonderful country.

I got your tits right here, Joe the Plumber. Now go Vote Democrat.

Regarding the "they forgot to let you decide" comment about trailing in the polls...it's fair to comment that the election has not occurred yet, but this isn't the AP sportswriters poll, is it? Someone did ask voters questions, right?

Marra, he's also going to want our freshwater soon, but I'm hoping he forgets about that.

Optimus, it's not bias if your heart's in the honest-to-God right place.

And I'm almost out of alcohol... but wait, is that a bottle of whiskey?

What would Senator Government say? (sorry, just reading the lower half of this thread)

Having read all the comments, I now see that I am obliged to watch the replay. After two snoozers, it sounds like there were a lot of fireworks in the first hour of this one.

at no time did I ever say that bagged milk was better than cartoned milk. I was merely making a statement of fact.

I was an exchange student in Quebec, and the first time I saw bagged milk, I tried to pour out of the mouth of the pitcher (instead of the top corner of the bag) and poured milk everywhere.

Stupid American (I mean, "person from the States.")

Don't feel bad ncnn, the plastic is hard to see. Its because we use fresh moutain spring water and clean air to make it, thus rendering the plastic nearly invisible.

Oh! And baby seal souls.

I stand corrected.

Also...motorboat practice? Hmmm.

I have a confession. I haven't watched a single one of the debates. I don't have a TV and I'm not motivated enough to go find one in order to sit through this bullshit.

There was a baseball game tonight?

Admin11 I know what motorboating is. But practicing on a bag of milk? I mean, I know breasts are technically milkbags, but you might as well motor two bags of sand.

But your right about American sex ed. No joke: my freshmen roommate - hands down the smartest person I know, who graduated with honors in two hard science degrees - came into college under the impression that it was called a 'boner' because there was an actual bone in the penis. God bless abstinence only education and the Florida Public school system.

Fuck two typos in one post - you're, not your and freshman, not freshmen. Fuck it, it's late I'm going to bed.

I assure you Marra there is no comparison between the two. Don't ask, lets just say it can get very cold in the Canadian prairies.

Jay, War it is.

scienceGeek, I believe he said roll model for all women. as you can see from the agry tempest above, it did nor go over well.

I meant role model.

Sarah Palin: role model or sexiest role model ever?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VV8uEzGuvfc

Leigh - Amen. McCain's absolute lunacy aside, I thought his comments that Palin knew more about special needs children than "just about anybody he knew" were ridiculous. I turned to my husband and said "She knows more than, I don't know, a researcher or doctor? A special needs teacher?" The hyperbole is not to be believed. Boyfriend's also not even a year old and she spent about 45 minutes with him before going back to being the governor. What the hell does she know about any of it, frankly?

Also, the fact that she didn't abort Trig while being pro-life doesn't make her a heroine, it simply makes her not a huge fucking hypocrite. Last time I checked, acting in concert with your obnoxiously-espoused beliefs didn't make you a hero.

Don't get me started on this. Seriously. I thought McCain was an absolute disgrace last night and that Obama outreasoned, outcharmed, and outperformed him at every turn - even more so than the other debates. I say that as a Hillary supporter who was bummed she wasn't the candidate. If I was a reasonable Republican (do they exist anymore with these clowns at the helm?) I'd be furious at McCain for his utter lack of responsibility throughout this campaign.

Recently, Leonard Nimoy was on Wait Wait Don't Tell Me on NPR and he said that back in the day, he was at a Star Trek convention and Barack Obama was at the hotel for some other reason. As Barack approached Leonard, he flashed him the "Live long and prosper" salute.

My friends...that in and of itself qualifies the man to be president.

Um, apparently Joe the Plumber isn't even registered to vote. I don't know what's douchier - McCain bringing the guy up every 5 minutes, or the guy making the rounds of the major news networks sucking McCain's dick when he can't even vote for him. Somebody call Alanis Morrisette and tell her that THAT is some ironic shit right there.

WHOOOOOO!!! Oof, even typing loud noises makes my head hurt. Damned celebration hangover.

Dammit Chuck, you can't shoot a Beaver. They are far to wily to get caught in your propaganda. Now, a moose is just stupid enough to knuckle under to your rhetoric.