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Now You're Not Satisfied With What You're Being Put Through: The Contrary Kevin Smith

By Cindy Davis | Posted Under Miscellaneous | Comments (21)



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Sometimes people come off as being disagreeable just for the sake of being disagreeable. Maybe they don’t mean to be; maybe they ought to just take a good look at themselves before doing an interview. As a person who (in hindsight) has found herself being contrary for no good reason and later, realized how it can come off to other people, I’d like to tell Kevin Smith it’s time to stop being such an asshole. Just about every Red State interview I’ve read since Sundance has been full of the filmmaker whining about how he’s perceived and what he’s had to go through, but both of those things are somewhat under his own control.

In a new interview, Smith asserts that he’s quitting film after he makes his next feature (Hit Somebody), saying that he wants to go out on top. But I’m not sure who, other than Smith, thinks he’s on top. If he really does quit, I think it will have more to do with self-doubt than going out on a high. The interview reads like a session with a petulant teenager, certain he is smarter than anyone else and defiant for no reason other than to be defiant. I do admire the reporter’s restraint.

You really have to read the whole interview to get the full effect of the director’s contrariness, but to sum it up, “No,” “No, never” and “No.” After various reports of Smith “imploding” at Sundance because his film wasn’t necessarily well received and he didn’t get the support he was looking for, the director is overly defensive and doesn’t even seem to understand when the interviewer is being complimentary. While anyone can understand disillusionment with the movie industry and a filmmaker’s need and desire to do something his own way, Smith has been around too long now to not realize he is in the game. And being in the game means that when you don’t win or things don’t go your way, you don’t revert to five year old behavior, throw your stick and stomp off. After all this time, you can’t still be playing naive. You can’t still be standing there saying, “It’s my way or I quit!” You can’t still be thinking it’s everyone else and not you. Kevin Smith, it’s time to pull up your big boy pants and act like a man. You don’t have to schmooze up every dickhead in Hollywood, but you just might need a few friendly faces. While some people might admire your tenacity, trying to go against the machine and get your movie out to the people in a new way, your pissy attitude could cause just as many to turn away. If you really want to say something, you still have to have someone on your side willing to listen. And at this point, if they read anything about you, I’d guess that’s difficult for even your most fervent fans.

Kevin Smith is currently on his Red State prescreening tour; the film will be released October 19, 2011.









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Comments

I didn't think the interview was that bad....

Posted by: Coco Bravo at April 10, 2011 3:45 PM

This is Kevin's track record:

Clerks (1994): $3.15 mil
Mallrats (1995): $2.12 mil
Chasing Amy (1997): $12 mil
Dogma (1999): $30.7 mil
Jay & Silent Bob Strike Back (2001): $30.1 mil
Jersey Girl (2004): $25.3 mil
Clerks 2 (2006): $24.1 mil
Zack & Miri Make a Porno (2008): $40.1 mil
Cop Out (2010): $44.9 mil

What does it say that his most successful film is the one he didn't write and is widely recognized as his weakest?

And while I respect that most of his output has been the kind he wanted to do and that he's done them at a profit even with those small returns, let's be honest: Kevin Smith is an acquired taste.

If he can't see that anymore, then it might be for the best he leave now.

Posted by: Fredo at April 10, 2011 3:48 PM

I kind of feel bad for the guy. He's obviously intelligent and frustrated, but is in dire need of a self-awareness check. There was a time and place for his type of humor and insight...but geez louise...it seems as though he *thinks* he's trying to "grow up" (or believes that he HAS matured) but he's coming across all kinds of stunted. I was probably the right kind of audience for Clerks and enjoyed it very very much and I appreciated that "Chasing Amy" is a better film and showed measurable growth...but it still never rang true (to me). His truth isn't everyone else's truth and he really shouldn't be pissed off by that um, truth.

Posted by: millsie at April 10, 2011 3:54 PM

I always thought that Kevin Smith was a pretty good writer, but a so-so director. Even his better films are uneven and he often repeats himself in both subject matter, characters and settings. Maybe it's a good idea for him to take a step back and reevaluate what he's doing and why he's doing it. Oh yeah...and he needs to stop putting Jason Mewes in his movies. It's just getting really sad.

Posted by: Dano at April 10, 2011 6:40 PM

He is an acquired taste, but I think if he hold's out long enough he's in the middle of a newer trend (sort of new), where i think studios are realizing they can spend 10-25 million on a smaller movie, release a bunch of them, and make a profit, and then do one huge bazillion dollar picture a year in the hopes of getting huge worldwide grosses.

Posted by: e at April 10, 2011 6:41 PM

Come on, Smith, do you really want to be one of the current See Me Hear Me Blow My Own Horn amoebas? Mr. Sidney Lumet has passed, Scout. A moment of reverence.

Posted by: DenG at April 10, 2011 6:49 PM

Other than Clerks and Chasing Amy, everyone one of those abominations were given 20 minutes of my time and not a second more. I want to like Kevin Smith, I really do, I try, I give him the 20, but he just......sucks!

And yes, Jason Mewes is movie repellant.

Posted by: kirbyjay at April 10, 2011 6:59 PM

Stop with the Kevin Smith hate already.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at April 10, 2011 7:50 PM

Kevin Smith has already been given more than his share of fair chances- so much so that I have no doubt other equally obscure filmmakers were passed over to give him multiple turns up at bat.

As a director I've found his work pedestrian at its edgiest. By the time he really tried to get shocking with the grotesque it had already been done by others. The fact that many of his movies were pigeonholed by taking place in the same world makes even the others that weren't seemed like they were. Maybe "Cop-Out" and "Jersey Girl" weren't in the so-called "View Askew-niverse"who didn't expect to see Jay & Silent Bob come toking around a corner any moment now. But it goes beyond that.

I can't really recall any interesting shots, be it camera angles, motion or juxtaposition. I can't think of set-ups that stick out in my mind either. I cannot think of anything outstanding from the locations as many of the movies could in fact be reset to take place anywhere and it really wouldn't affect the story. In fact, I really cannot say anything about most of the sets, costumes, design or almost anything else that make it stand out at all. I'm not saying they don't exist, they just aren't memorable the same way some of the true greats own certain shots. And while one could argue that might be his "style", I would argue that movies are indeed a visual media. I could argue the "Clerks" was visually his most visual styled movie, and even so the B&W was more necessity than artistic choice. Generally his movies are little more than a means to push his scripts along.

As a writer (something he a little stronger suited to) I have heard some very witty banter and snappy dialogue, which at times has been mired in weak storyline. I want to like his stories despite the fact that sometimes his stories go really nowhere apart from getting from one diatribe to the the next conversation. I think in some ways that's in fact the weak link. That is to say if he had made a stronger story, he would have something more compelling to shoot and it would seem more like a complete movie than place-marks to hang his dialogue. To hear him talk though, he seems dead set to keep where he is, never evolving from the writer/director he was almost 20 years ago and not realizing that the audience he had then has grown up and evolved themselves.

Maybe he really should take his proverbial ball and go home. We want a new game- or at least some new rules. If he cannot provide it then perhaps it is time someone else from the fringe can.

Posted by: bleujayone at April 10, 2011 7:58 PM

He's obviously intelligent

Have you ever listened to any of his podcasts? Because I couldn't disagree more with that statement. Which isn't to say he's not likable or funny at times, but he's just not that smart.

Posted by: Uda at April 10, 2011 8:11 PM

“Stop with the Kevin Smith hate already.”


Posted by: BarbadoSlim at April 10, 2011 7:50 PM


Oh please give me a break, poor Kevin Smith, everybody is picking on him. At best Smith is a hack director with delusions of mediocrity. The fact that he’s in full meltdown mode shows me just how mentally weak he truly is. The guy pitches a tantrum because he can’t get financing for his shitty movie and he sulks and goes home. In the words of Don Vito Corleone, Smith, “You can act like a man!”.

Posted by: Pookie at April 10, 2011 8:22 PM

Sorry, Uda, I haven't listened to any of his podcasts. Maybe substitute "intelligent" with "contemplative"? I mean, I don't think the dude's IQ is posted anywhere...and I shouldn't have used the word "obviously"...so, you know, my bad.

Posted by: millsie at April 10, 2011 9:10 PM

And so it begins...

Posted by: smijca at April 10, 2011 10:35 PM

Kevin Smith is that director that makes you interested in film when you're 16, precisely because Smith himself is permanently adolescent. I was a high school virgin when I first saw Chasing Amy and even I thought that Affleck was being a huge fucking prude the whole time.

He's that kid who thinks his own ideas are endlessly interesting because he's never actually read anything else in his life.

Posted by: Mr. Tusks at April 10, 2011 10:36 PM

"Which isn't to say he's not likable or funny at times, but he's just not that smart."

Agreed. The only thing that might suggest higher than average intelligence is his high syllable-per-word count. But even that can be achieved by having a thesaurus open at your desk while writing a script, which is what I think Smith has been doing for the last fifteen years.

Posted by: Mr. Tusks at April 10, 2011 11:08 PM

I don't think we hate Kevin Smith. I think we're just pissed off at him and want him to get his act together already.

Posted by: Sofia at April 11, 2011 10:30 AM

ummmmmm no Sofia, we hate him.

Posted by: Pookie at April 11, 2011 10:39 AM

I liked the interview. Also, I don't think that his intention of quitting is to go out on a high, nor is it self-doubt. I think he just feels ready to retire before he ends up doing shit just to keep going. You know, like he said...

Posted by: jamiepants at April 11, 2011 10:48 AM

jamiepants, honey, sugar, sweetie, did you just say "before he ends up doing shit?" Let me explain something to you, in case you haven't noticed he's been doing shit for quite some time now.

Posted by: Pookie at April 11, 2011 11:33 AM

So he's going to quit filmmaking and become a professional story telling. For money? This is a job? Wow there must be some really rich dudes down at my pub. I wonder how they organise their income tax.

Posted by: Fuckchop at April 11, 2011 9:35 PM

I'm just here for the 'Policy of Truth' quotation. 10 out of 10!

Posted by: Jo 'Mama' Besser at April 11, 2011 10:29 PM